Hammond Power Solutions Inc. (HPSA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 27, 2023
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Operator
operatorGood morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Hammond Power Solutions 2023 Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call. Certain statements that will be discussed in this conference call will constitute forward-looking statements. The forward-looking information and statements included in this discussion are not guarantees of future performance and should not be unduly relied upon. Forward-looking statements will be based on current expectations, estimates and projections that involve a number of risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated and described in the forward-looking statements. Such information and statements involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause actual results or events to differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking information and statements. These factors include, but are not limited to, such things as the impact of general industry conditions, fluctuations of commodity prices, industry competition, availability of qualified personnel and management, stock market volatility and timely and cost-effective access to sufficient capital from internal and external sources. The risks just outlined should not be construed as exhaustive. Although management of the company believes that the expectations reflected in such forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations will prove to have been correct. Accordingly, listeners should not place undue reliance upon any of the forward-looking information discussed in this call. I would now like to turn the call over to Adrian Thomas, CEO of Hammond Power Solutions.
Adrian Thomas
executiveThank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Hammond Power Solutions Third Quarter Financial Results Conference Call for 2023. Joining me today is Richard Vollering, our Chief Financial Officer. My first 3 months with Hammond Power Solutions have been exciting and rewarding for me personally. I've spent this time meeting our customers and hearing about their future plans and learning about the development of our market offers. And most importantly, meeting the global Hammond Power Solutions team. The team is a set of truly passionate people making a difference in every day. I've traveled to many of our facilities and have seen firsthand how our team members are working to make Hammond Power Solutions a leader in the electrification of our world. I sit here today very confident in our ability to meet our current goals and to expand beyond our traditional markets. Turning to our operations. Our third quarter of 2023 has been another noteworthy quarter for Hammond Power Solutions. Most importantly, we continue to deliver record financial results, and we are reinvesting in the expansion of our production capacities which in turn is improving our ability to serve the needs of our distributors and our customers. While we are running at full or near capacity at every facility, continuous improvement programs and increased hiring have progressively increased plant productivity, incrementally increasing our production rates. These higher production levels are reducing stock outages and increasing shipments. Underpinning our financial achievements, we recorded the largest quarter and single month September of ship product in the history of Hammond Power Solutions, which bodes well for our continuing growth. Again, progress on previously announced capital plans continue, and thanks to the excellent work of operations and project teams, we have already completed the installation of additional cells in our Monterrey one facility and expect to see additional production benefits from these sales in the fourth quarter and into next year. Our new small products plant located in Monterrey, Mexico is also progressing well. As the footings are complete and the steel structure is currently under construction. We expect this factory to be complete early next year. In parallel, we approved an additional $12 million of capital spending, which will give us 50 million to 60 million of additional low voltage capacity to address expected long-term demand in this market for new business, which we are currently turning away due to capacity constraints. Orders and backlogs continue to remain strong, driven by our activity in various key market segments and resumed the growth of our distribution channel, adding more branches throughout the U.S. in the quarter. We see strong demand across our portfolio, especially in custom power units that serve renewable and data center applications. I will now hand it over to Richard to take you through some of our financial highlights. Richard?
Richard Vollering
executiveThank you, Adrian. Hello, and thank you for joining us this morning. Sales increased by 20.5% in the third quarter to a record $179 million. This new level of volume was only made possible by the capacity additions that we have been discussing and implementing over the past year. As Adrian mentioned, we've recently approved further capital spending of $12 million to expand our capacity to produce power transformers to support high demand in this market. We believe that these investments will allow us to increase our raw capacity to between $900 million and $950 million by the end of 2025. Sales in the quarter increased by approximately 13% due to volume increases, 5% due to higher prices held over from prior year price increases and 3% due to the stronger U.S. dollar. On a year-to-date basis, sales increased by 26.3% overall. Breaking that down, 13% was due to volume increases, 8% due to higher prices and 5% due to the stronger U.S. dollar. Volume increases versus prior year were driven primarily by increased sales in the U.S. distribution channel and private label sales. The backlog continued to grow versus the prior year and more meaningfully grew by 11% versus the end of the second quarter, indicating that demand for our products remains healthy. Gross margins remained strong at 31.7% in the quarter. Pricing is holding due to the continued strong demand and our facilities continue to operate at close to our full capacity. There was also a slightly favorable product mix in the quarter towards custom and power quality products, helping margins to a lesser extent. SG&A expenses were $36 million in the quarter, driven by higher freight and commissions because of higher volumes, compensation costs related to share-based compensation and the addition of key personnel, including the CEO and higher costs related to elevated business activity, including warehousing, travel and entertainment. Net income for the quarter was $14.4 million, resulting in an EPS of $1.21. This brings our year-to-date net income to $43.5 million and an EPS of $3.65 per share. EBITDA margins were 13.2% in the quarter, in line with our target range of 12% to 15%. Working capital improvements in the quarter improved our cash position. Working capital as a percentage of sales was at 18%, within our target range of 17% to 18%. Capital expenditures rose to $9.2 million in the quarter, a trend that we expect to continue into Q4 due to cash outlays for our expansion program. At the end of Q3, we had a net cash position of $22 million. We are pleased with our ability to ship close to $180 million in the quarter, while at the same time, maintaining strong margins and cash flow. Over the coming quarters, we will continue to invest in our business to meet growing demand and to work to improve our operating performance through investments in our people, our products and technology. Thank you. Back to you, Adrian.
Adrian Thomas
executiveThanks, Richard. I'm convinced that Hammond Power Solutions is in a great position to capitalize on the growing demand for clean and efficient energy solutions. We currently see strong demand across the geography. However, we continue to watch carefully for the potential of economic moderation in North America. As we look ahead, we are confident that we can continue to deliver value to our shareholders, customers and employees. As was launched with our rebrand long term, we have a clear vision and strategy for the future of Hammond Power Solutions, which is to expand our power quality solutions, continue to develop our distribution partners, especially in the U.S., Mexico and LatAm markets. We will continue our culture of excellence and flexibility that drives us to constantly improve and exceed customer expectations. And we have a commitment to sustainability and social responsibility that guides us to make a positive impact on the environment and society. I would like to close by extending my gratitude and thanks to Bill Hammond, our Senior Executive Team and our Board for their tremendous support in this transition. I'm honored and humbled to lead this amazing company. I look forward to our exciting future. Thank you. And I will now turn the call over to our operator to take questions. Operator?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Jim Byrne of Acumen.
Jim Byrne
analystJust a couple for me. Thanks for the details on the increased capital. Maybe just wanted to get a handle on what is giving you the confidence, I guess, to make that further investment if you could -- if there's any particular details around that.
Richard Vollering
executiveSorry, Jim, are you referring to the additional $12 million capital investment over and above the $40 million that we announced in December.
Jim Byrne
analystThat's right, Richard. Yes.
Richard Vollering
executiveOkay. Well, we talked a lot about the strong demand that we're seeing in several applications. Data centers is a good example. And the demand has moved to what we would refer to as sort of larger low-voltage power units. And we see that demand being strong for the next several years. Adrian, do you want to add to that.
Adrian Thomas
executiveNo, I mean the only thing I would add is we have space in existing facility to add equipment. We see the long-term demand is there. So yes, I think it's simple as that.
Jim Byrne
analystOkay. So is it -- are you seeing that in your current backlog? Or is it just something that you're anticipating in the future?
Richard Vollering
executiveYes. Yes. Yes, we see it in the demand of our current order bookings and what we expect from the markets going forward.
Jim Byrne
analystOkay. And then just on the distribution side, I think in the MD&A, you mentioned you did add some in the recent quarters. Maybe if you could quantify that -- and then maybe help us understand what the future plans are? I know in the past, Bill spoke of -- I can't remember the numbers off the top of my head, 250, 450, 500 million new distribution channels. Maybe if you could help us quantify that.
Richard Vollering
executiveYes. No, we're making good progress on that and our ability to ship more has allowed us to bring on additional distributors. So we've been increasing our inventories, which allows us to be able to serve them. And in Q3, we added roughly order of magnitude 70 U.S. branches of distributors. So not -- those would be multiple brands, but a total of 70 branches in the U.S., plus or minus and around 9% in Mexico. So I think we're on track to the forecast we had in terms of total coverage for expanding in the U.S.
Jim Byrne
analystOkay. That's great. And then I think there was a mention of gross margins and margin improvement in India. Is there any further details around that?
Richard Vollering
executiveNo. I think this is something, Jim, that's been going on for a number of years now, and it really relates back to some changes that we've made both in the Indian management team, but also in the type of business that we're pursuing there. And we're trying to focus our efforts on higher-margin business. And it's -- now the demand has come on strong there, that's an easier thing to do.
Jim Byrne
analystOkay. And then maybe last 1 for me, if I could. Just on the labor front, we've heard from a few companies now that feels like the labor market is opening up a bit more and guys availability is improving. You guys mentioned that, is that something you're seeing? Or you obviously still have hiring to do with these new expansions? You're pretty comfortable on the labor front?
Richard Vollering
executiveI think we've seen I think a couple of things. We put a lot of effort and focus in recruiting and employee referrals and things of that nature. So we are seeing improved hiring for labor. And then I think when we look at engineering and some of these others, they're still very tight labor market. So I would say it's more stable, but it's something that it's not easy.
Operator
operatorAnd our next question will be coming from Matthew Lee of Canaccord. Matthew, if you could please state your name and your company name before asking your question, please.
Matthew Lee
analystMatt from Canaccord. Great quarter. I just wanted to quickly ask about revenue. You've been in the $170 to $180 range for about 3 quarters now. But it does sound like the CapEx investment is in kind of hold our revenue. Can you maybe talk about what level of revenues do you expect to move to and then maybe the impact on gross margins there.
Richard Vollering
executiveAnd I was having a hard time hearing you. Can you repeat the question?
Matthew Lee
analystYes. No. So just your revenue has been in the $170 to $180 range for about 3 quarters now, but it just sounds like the CapEx that you've been investing is going to help that number grow. So can you maybe talk about how quickly you might expect to see revenues grow and then what level would be able to reach and the impact on gross margin?
Richard Vollering
executiveYes. So I think Matt, we've been -- it's a progressive thing, right? I mean -- and especially when it comes to adding equipment and people and factories to expand capacity. So you've been able to -- if you've been following along throughout the course of the year, we've been able to increase the top line with each passing quarter. We think by the end of this year, our capacity will be up to about $800 million a year. And then most of the equipment additions are done at that point. And then the next big capacity additions will be the new small products plant, which should be up and running in the second quarter of 2024. And then the Nesta expansion which we expect right now to have complete by the end of the second quarter of 2024, which would have an effect on capacity in the back half of the year. So that's really how we see it playing out quarter-over-quarter. But I think you'll probably see the biggest capacity additions going forward. in the back half of 2024.
Matthew Lee
analystRight. So maybe we can kind of dive in on that a little bit more. If your revenue capacity kind of reached $800 million, how quickly will be the scale of revenue to reach that kind of capacity?
Richard Vollering
executiveHow quickly would it take to get? Well, so the $800 million is also raw capacity, and it doesn't take into consideration that volume isn't spread evenly overall facilities. So there's an effective capacity that's somewhere below that. And if you want to call that sort of 85% to 90%.
Matthew Lee
analystOkay. That's helpful. Yes. And then the backlog -- go ahead. .
Richard Vollering
executiveSorry, I was just going to finish. So by the end of by the end of 2024, just to complete the picture for you, the raw capacity should be just under $900 million.
Matthew Lee
analystOkay. That's helpful. And then maybe just on backlog, we still have a little bit of acceleration there, which is great. Can you maybe talk about what drove that in terms of large projects, maybe a large data center or solar farm? Or is it kind of a variety of small things?
Richard Vollering
executiveNo, it is a variety of things, but we certainly -- data centers at renewables tend to be -- 2 very big markets that we see a lot of increased growth, more activity maybe than other sectors. But we see broad form activity in all sectors.
Matthew Lee
analystOkay. Okay. And then lastly for me, just revenue visibility. So with backlog up 25% since the beginning of the year, can you maybe just talk about how do play for you can see in terms of earning visibility?
Richard Vollering
executiveYes. Again, it depends on the facility. I mean it's not even. It depends on the product, whether it's shelf goods or custom product. But the standard product, usually, it will have kind of a lead time of 6 to 8 weeks. And then the custom it could be anywhere from 6 months to a year. And then there are certain -- there are some contracts that extend beyond that, but it's less common.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our next question will be coming from -- is a follow-up from Jim Byrne of Acumen.
Jim Byrne
analystYes, guys. Richard, I know on the gross margin side, you've been relatively cautious in terms of the outlook kind of maintaining in this north of 30%, 31% now almost 32%. Maybe help us understand, are you gaining any more confidence that this is kind of the new normal? And you think you can sustain these types of numbers going forward? Or is there still risk in the next few quarters, just given some of the uncertainty in the markets?
Richard Vollering
executiveIt's a good question, Jim. And so we're -- I mean, with each passing quarter, I think it's safe to say that the margins are stable at their current levels. And the way we've always expressed this is for prices to come down, 2 things have to happen is 1 of the underlying comp commodity costs have to come down, which has happened in some places, but not all. I mean electrical, steel is a good example of an input where the prices have remained elevated. But the other thing that has to happen is there has to be other excess capacity or reduce demand. And we haven't seen either of those things happen yet. So -- and so I mean, we see, Adrian has talked a lot about the tailwinds that we see in some of these sectors. And as long as -- as long as we see things like backlog growth, it makes us feel a little bit more confident or confident about where our margins are. It's hard to know. It's hard to look beyond the next 2 or 3 quarters, Jim. And so -- but I think for the near term, I think we feel pretty good about where our margins are.
Jim Byrne
analystOkay. That's helpful. And then maybe just on the G&A line. I know you've got some impact there from stock-based comp and the DSUs. Excluding those items, are you comfortable with the G&A? Or is there still going to be investments required, obviously, as you grow on that line item?
Richard Vollering
executiveYes. There will be investments because the business is growing. And -- so we're adding, for instance, there will be some G&A that's added when we invest in our new plants, for instance. So -- but it will be moderated. I mean I think if you're -- you take away all of the variances that are due to the stock-based compensation and then you think about it in terms of 4% to 6% increases in G&A in the next year to support growing business. I think that's probably not an unreasonable point of view.
Operator
operatorAnd I'm showing no further questions. At this time, I would like to hand the call back to Adrian for closing remarks.
Adrian Thomas
executiveWell, I would like to thank all the investors and attendees for joining today. As I mentioned earlier, it's been a really fantastic quarter for Hammond Power Solutions, and we'll continue to watch out for any signs of slowdown, but we're cautiously optimistic as we head through the rest of the year. And we look forward to speaking to you again at the end of the fiscal year.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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