HealthCo Healthcare and Wellness REIT (HCW.XA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 14, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorThank you for standing by, and welcome to the HealthCo Healthcare Wellness REIT FY '25 Full Year Results Briefing. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Sid Sharma, HMC Capital Managing Director, Real Estate. Please go ahead.
Sid Sharma
executiveGood morning, everyone, and thank you for attending today's conference call. Before we commence today's presentation, we want to acknowledge the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia. We celebrate their diverse culture and connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and we extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. Let us begin on Slide 5. When we listed HealthCo in 2021, we set out to create Australia's leading diversified health care REIT. It is a unique strategy, especially one in listed markets. As the sector continues to institutionalize, we have clearly encountered challenges in the last few years that are well documented. We recognize and appreciate the unit price impacts to investors. As manager and the largest shareholder of HealthCo, HMC continues to focus on creating long-term value for investors through proactive management of the long-term infrastructure like real estate that HealthCo owns. I understand today that everyone will be eager to have an update on the Healthscope process, and I will turn to that shortly, but let's discuss the FY '25 results. FY '25 was clearly impacted by the receivership of Healthscope at its parent level, which is the largest tenant in the HCW portfolio. Healthscope today represents 53% of HealthCo's earnings on a look-through basis, having regard to the balance sheet assets and those in the Unlisted Healthcare Fund. Funds from operations per unit of $0.066 was impacted by the Unlisted Healthcare Fund pausing distributions, just as HealthCo announced a few months ago. Despite this, we have collected 98% of all rent due and payable having [ receipted ] through the course of the financial year. And all rent owed by Healthscope has been paid in cash. The valuations of the properties declined by 4% on a gross basis, reflecting a 37 bp expansion in cap rates. All Healthscope facilities were independently valued, and 72% of the portfolio was independently valued throughout the half. During the period, we have strengthened the balance sheet and now have 31% pro forma gearing and importantly, $104 million in cash and undrawn debt. HealthCo is well positioned to navigate through this next period. Preserving cash and pausing on distributions will allow HealthCo to ensure long-term value preservation and enhancement in our portfolio. Notably, the like-for-like net income growth from our portfolio was 5.2%, driven by market rent reviews, annual reviews and strong leasing spreads. Turning to the Healthscope portfolio overview on Page 7. HealthCo and the Unlisted Healthcare Fund in total own 11 Healthscope hospitals. These are purpose-built facilities with many of them having been recently refurbished and upgraded. Our facilities treat over 366,000 patient episodes annually, with 86 operating theaters supported by 4,000 nurses and staff. Almost all of our assets are focused on medium and high-acuity critical services. Many of you that have followed our journey over the last year or 2 know that as an Australian-listed company, we are focused and passionate about the important role that these facilities play in the Australian health care landscape. Our focus remains to ensure that all facilities continue to operate and support their local communities. On this page, we have also provided a reminder of the valuation gains since acquisition of this portfolio and the quarterly cash collection since acquisition. We still have high conviction in this asset class, given its long-term value fundamentals. Turning to Page 8. As many of you know, in May this year, 2 nonoperating Healthscope's entities entered into receivership. Our tenant counterparties for clarification are not in receivership and continue to operate and serve their communities. Our legal rights that we have articulated before remain in place, including our cross default and termination rights. We expect the short-term deferral support we have provided will be repaid by the end of September as agreed. Since the appointment of receivers in May, the receivers and advisers have been working through a process of sale. We have had constructive and productive discussions with the receivers and Healthscope management as they work through an orderly sale process. We look forward to working with them constructively moving forward as we have done so in the last few months. In the event that the sale process is concluded, the receivers have a right to seek our consent to assign leases. We are open-minded to such a request. In the event that the receiver-led sale process does not result in one or more proposed assignees and leases that HealthCo and the unlisted fund are willing to consent to, we will look to enter into final lease arrangements with alternative tenants. To that end, we have reached conditional agreements with alternative operators as we stand here today. We understand that investors are eager to see a resolution to this situation as we are. Given, however, the nature of the stakeholders and negotiations with the parties are ongoing, it is imprudent for us to make any further comments beyond what are provided today. Our priorities are clear. number one, continuity of services at all hospitals; number two, ensuring the portfolio is tenanted by well-capitalized operators with strong operational track record; number three, maintaining jobs for nurses and hospital staff; and number four, maintaining long-term value for our unitholders and investors. We do thank our investors for their ongoing support as we work through this situation. I'll now pass over to Christian, who will take you through the results in more detail.
Christian Soberg
executiveThank you, Sid, and good morning, everyone. Let's turn to Page 10 for an update on the HCW asset portfolio. I will start with the key metrics for HCW's well-diversified portfolio of private hospitals and other health infrastructure assets. While the Healthscope portfolio has attracted a lot of media coverage, the broader portfolio has continued to perform well. Contracted rent collection was 98%. Like-for-like NOI growth for the year was plus 5.2%, and the portfolio has a long lease expiry of 11.5 years. Let's turn to Page 11 for an overview of our subsectors. Our portfolio includes private hospitals, cancer care centers, aged care facilities, health hubs and a nursing college. Government and national tenants account for over 80% of our income. This include Mater, one of Queensland's largest health care providers; and Genesis Care, Australia's largest cancer care operator. On the next page, we highlight the attractive metro locations of our assets. 96% of our portfolio is located in metro areas in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth. Our assets are located in areas with strong population growth and therefore, benefit from continuing strong demand for health care services. Turning now to an ESG update on Page 13. Our sustainability strategy is built around creating healthy communities. In FY '25, we delivered solar to 70% of feasible sites and reduced Scope 1 and 2 emissions by 32% from our FY '22 baseline. This was driven by our Energy Management System and solar rollout. Moving on to developments, starting on Page 15. We completed developments at Proxima and the Mount in the second half. These projects have delivered great facilities for our tenant partners and accretive returns for our unitholders, with cash yield on cost of up to 7.5%. Now turning to Page 16, where I'll provide an update on our development pipeline. The New South Wales government is moving ahead with its plans to build a $900 million public hospital at Rouse Hill. The planned hospital is adjacent to our existing health hub and provides a strategic opportunity to build a co-located private health care facility. We clearly have some attractive development opportunities lined up. But in terms of prudent capital management, we are focused first on resolving the Healthscope situation and then on securing funding partners for our pipeline. Moving now to the financial results, starting with the earnings summary on Page 18. FY '25 FFO was $0.066 per unit. The result was consistent with previous guidance when adjusted for the suspension of distributions from the Unlisted Healthcare Fund in the second half. The FY '25 distribution was $0.042 per unit. HCW did not declare distributions in the second half in order to maintain balance sheet flexibility. Moving on to the balance sheet on Page 19. NTA as at June was $1.44 per unit with the movement to June driven by portfolio cap rate expansion. All the Healthscope assets were valued independently. HCW's senior debt facility has been extended until November 2026. Turning now to capital management on Page 20. As we have already said, our capital management has remained prudent as we sought to preserve liquidity and maintain strategic flexibility. Adjusted for recently exchanged asset sales, June '25 pro forma cash and undrawn debt is $104 million and June '25 pro forma gearing is 31%. This is at the low end of our target gearing range. Moving on to the outlook for FY '26 on Page 22. In FY '26, our focus remains on resolving the Healthscope situation. Our key goal is to ensure continuity of services at our facilities in order to protect long-term value for HCW's unitholders. We continue to make progress in this regard. We will continue to manage our capital prudently and don't intend to declare distributions until the situation has been resolved. Until such time as that is achieved, it is not appropriate to provide guidance for FY '26. Our conviction in health care real estate remains strong with long-term growth underpinned by powerful mega trends. In closing, we would like to thank our unitholders, the HealthCo Board, the HMC capital team and all of our tenant partners. I will now hand back to the operator for Q&A.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question today comes from Solomon Zhang from JPMorgan.
Solomon Zhang
analystFirst question for me is probably for you, Sid. Just on Slide 8, when you're talking about the alternative lease arrangements, I understand that you can't disclose the commercial terms, and it's commercial in confidence and delicate situation. But just hoping you can just touch on some of, I guess, the high level, I guess, where these lease arrangements are sitting? And have you agreed on key terms such rent levels, 10-year incentives?
Sid Sharma
executiveYes, Solomon. So the conditional agreements contemplate the key commercial terms. They remain, to your point, commercial in confidence. And given the sensitive nature of the negotiations and this process that's yet to play out, I don't want to go into any further details beyond that.
Solomon Zhang
analystRight. And could you comment on whether it applies to all the assets or a majority or minority of the assets that you own? [indiscernible]
Sid Sharma
executiveAll of the assets.
Solomon Zhang
analystRight. Makes sense. So the second question for me is just on the impact of your Unlisted Healthcare Fund distribution freeze on your interest coverage ratio. I understand it directly impacts FFO, but how does it flow through to your headstock ICR?
Christian Soberg
executiveWe feel -- so we're in compliance with all our debt covenants as at June. We will continue to remain compliant with all the debt covenants in FY '26, Solomon.
Solomon Zhang
analystYes, it makes sense. But just in terms of the income that they include in the EBITDA of that ICR, does that include the distributions or the distributable earnings of the Unlisted Healthcare Fund?
Christian Soberg
executiveIt is included in the covenant calculation, Solomon. But as I said, we remain confident around our covenants in FY '26.
Sid Sharma
executiveYes. So I think Solomon, we're very comfortable that we're positioned now with the excess cash, the excess liquidity, the rent coverage ratio, the support from our banks to ride through the next 12 months very comfortably.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from David Pobucky from Macquarie Group. We'll briefly move on. Your next question comes from Simon Chan from Morgan Stanley.
Simon Chan
analystA few questions. First one, just on your debt roll. You guys, looks like you've rolled debt from May through to November, so 4-month extension 2026. Just wondering two things. One, why do such a short roll? Because I thought most complex when they extend debt, they extend for longer than 4 months. So that's part A of the question. And part B, it seems like you've cut the facility size down to $475 million. Is that just to save money on line fees? Or yes, can you comment on that, please, first?
Christian Soberg
executiveSimon, it's Christian here. So we extended the facility by 6 months. Our lending syndicates is very supportive of all the stuff that we are doing. The reduction in the facility was part of the extension that we'd entered into.
Simon Chan
analystDid any of the terms change in this whole extension, like margins or other stuff?
Christian Soberg
executiveAll the terms are similar to the previous arrangements. And to note, that's obviously by the extension, it ensures that the debt isn't current in the financial year.
Simon Chan
analystYes. I guess by the time your December results rolls around, it's going to become current again though, right, because it expires in November 2026?
Christian Soberg
executiveThat's correct. We're continuing to manage our balance sheet, but in a proactive manner, Simon.
Simon Chan
analystCool. Great. Can you guys just give me an update as to 2 of your assets, please, in particular, Proxima and Eden Park in -- over in Macquarie Park. Proxima, my understanding is there was a rental guarantee, right? How is that -- remind me when it rolls off. And is the asset effectively 100% rented now such that there will be no impact on earnings in F '26? And also just on Eden Park, is a tenant paying rent? Is everything going okay there?
Christian Soberg
executiveYes. So Proxima is a health hub on the Gold Coast. It's adjacent to Gold Coast University Hospital in Gold Coast Private Hospital. It's a great facility in a great location. That's anchored by Queensland Health. So the rental guarantee expires or expired at the end of FY '25. Current leasing levels are in excess of 80%, and we'll continue to lease that facility up in the current financial year.
Sid Sharma
executiveAnd Simon, we've got commitments over 90%. And we've got a great tenant. That is [ the Delta ]. We're just waiting for them to commence their fit out. So we're really pleased with how that's gone. The rental levels are in excess of what we expected when we set out to do that project. So yes, we're pretty pleased with how it's coming along, and the covenant counterparty there with the government is a strong counterparty risk.
Simon Chan
analystAnd Macquarie Park, nothing to worry about there?
Sid Sharma
executiveNo. Look, Saluda are a key tenant in Macquarie Park. They're performing really well. The team negotiated a really good market rent review this year with them. And then the other tenant there is Aegros that have just gone through a capital fundraising. They're a life sciences operator. And all arrears and rental were cleared when that capital raising was done. So we're pretty comfortable about where that's heading.
Simon Chan
analystCool. And the market rent review you just mentioned with Saluda Medical, was that a big one? Was a -- did you get a good positive leasing spread there?
Sid Sharma
executiveSignificant. Yes. So the comp NOI growth that we quoted, Simon, on the first page there, a large part of that was driven by rent reviews and leasing spreads across the book, including that particular deal. I don't want to get into specifics per tenancy, but yes, that was significant, and the team did a great job to negotiate it.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from David Pobucky from Macquarie.
David Pobucky
analystSorry about earlier. I'm just juggling a few things. And apologies if I missed some of this. Would you mind just talking a bit about the operating performance at the Healthscope assets, please? I think about a year ago, you may have mentioned that the EBITDAR ratio for Healthscope was about 3x, including the incentive at that point. Is that right?
Sid Sharma
executiveYes, that was a year ago based on the incentive at the time. So that was cash due and payable versus EBITDA. So the current update, David, the receivers and their advisers are keeping us up to date with the performance of the facilities. They've assured us. And it correlates with all of our data points that the facilities from an occupancy perspective are improving. VMO retention is high and a credit to the way Healthscope post their receivership have been managing things day on day. If you were to visit any of the facilities, there's been very minimal disruption on site, which is great for patients and great for the communities.
David Pobucky
analystJust following up on that. So just going back to a year ago, 3x, ex the incentive, would have implied 1.5x. My understanding is industry norm sounds like it should be about 2x. I think you know where I'm going with this, but that would imply rent cuts could be in the order of up to 25%. Just wanted to understand how we should think about that? Or any color you can provide around that, please?
Sid Sharma
executiveI'm not going to get into giving you the rent cut assumption you've made there. What I would say is from last year to this year, conditions have improved. Rent coverage has improved. We don't anticipate what the number you've quoted to be the number that we end at. And certainly, it's well out of step with the deals that we've got on the table in front of us today.
David Pobucky
analystI appreciate that color there. And the conditional agreements with alternative operators that exist, do they exist with each and every Healthscope asset in UHF and in the direct portfolio?
Sid Sharma
executiveYes, that's right, David.
David Pobucky
analystAnd how do you think about the potential quality of lease covenant with potential alternative operators versus Healthscope?
Sid Sharma
executiveIt will be a big improvement on the current counterparty covenant.
David Pobucky
analystYes. Yes. Just had one on valuations. They were down 6% half-on-half. Correct me if I'm wrong. How much of the devaluation do you think is tenant-related risk factored in versus general market? And do valuers have consideration for the alternative arrangements?
Sid Sharma
executiveSo at the moment, all of the leases remain on foot. We've provided a slide on the Healthscope page, which shows the movement on the Healthscope hospital valuations, which are the driver for most of the changes across the book. The way the valuers view it today is that the leases remain on foot. In the absence of those leases being terminated or changed, they're assessing risk on through the cap rate as opposed to the underlying cash flows.
David Pobucky
analystYes. Sorry, just one final question for me on the UHF distribution that was suspended. If you could just talk through your thoughts on that. And do you expect UHF to pay distribution in FY '26? And if, and when Healthscope is resolved, you expect to pay the distributions that have been suspended at that point in time?
Sid Sharma
executiveWe're not providing guidance on distributions at HealthCo today, David. The focus is, we're going to resolve Healthscope, and we're going to set these hospitals up for long-term success, and that's the focus at the moment.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Callum Bramah from Macquarie.
Callum Bramah
analystApologies, we were double booked to try and make sure we got a question, but maybe I can just follow up with a couple. To the extent that UHF doesn't pay a distribution, can you just talk to the impact for your ICR and your ability to remain above the covenant without any distribution from UHF? And then my second one was I note in the notes to the accounts, you referred to the margin on the debt being subject to the LVR for the group. Can you just talk about how that margin steps up depending on that LVR, please?
Christian Soberg
executiveYes, just around the margin, we don't comment on our LVR covenants, Callum. Just in terms of the UHF -- sorry, your first question, Callum. Sorry, if you remind me.
Sid Sharma
executiveICR coverage. I think the question came up, Callum, you may have missed it just before. So we're in compliance with all of our covenants and we're very comfortable with where we sit today in terms of the outlook for the next 12 months.
Callum Bramah
analystThe test is at the end, isn't it, of the period for the ICR? Is that correct?
Unknown Executive
executiveIt's a semiannual test look back I think one of the other key points to note is, I mean, Healthscope are paying cash rent. So we can turn those distributions on at UHF, but as Sid has pointed out, to be prudent to prepare ourselves for any new deal with new operators. We're just managing the cash. But as Christian pointed out earlier, we're comfortable with our interest coverage.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Andy MacFarlane from Bell Potter.
Andrew MacFarlane
analystJust two quick ones for me. Just on rent collection, you noted that it's 95% through the period. Can you just give us a little bit of color on what that 5% was? Why it wasn't collected?
Sid Sharma
executiveIt's just a timing issue, Andy. It's been [ receipted ] post 30 June. So we got it all after 30 June.
Andrew MacFarlane
analystAnd was it relating to 1 or multiple assets?
Sid Sharma
executiveIt's 1 tenant? It's been [ receipted ] since.
Andrew MacFarlane
analystFinal one for me just around asset sales. Obviously, a little bit during the period. Just wondering if you're contemplating anything for the next 12 months?
Sid Sharma
executiveYes. Look, obviously, we wanted to just get a balance sheet in a really good shape to kind of navigate a transition of the Healthscope facilities. The balance sheet is in good shape. Gearing is at the lower end of the range. We've got liquid assets that are in demand that we can trade whenever we feel like we need to. So we'll just do it as a function of the capital requirements as we work through the Healthscope situation.
Operator
operatorThank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll now hand back to Mr. Sharma for any closing remarks.
Sid Sharma
executiveLook, thank you all for your interest and your questions today. We know we do appreciate the patience as we work through this situation. And hopefully, we've provided some good color today on where things are heading. I look forward to catching up with all of you over the next few days. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThat does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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