Helbor Empreendimentos S.A. (HBOR3) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 12, 2020
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Operator
operatorGood afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for waiting. Welcome to Helbor's Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. We would like to inform you that this audio conference is being recorded and translated simultaneously. The video and the slides are being broadcast on the Internet at our IR site. [Operator Instructions] Before proceeding, we'd like to inform that forward-looking statements in this conference call relating to the projections and operational and financial goals of the company are based on the beliefs and assumptions of Helbor's management and information currently available to the company. Future assumptions is not a guarantee of the performance because they refer to future events and depend on circumstances that can or not occur. Industry economic conditions and other operating factors can affect the future results of the company and could cause results that materially differ from those expressed in such forward-looking statements. Now I will turn the conference over to Mr. Henry Borenstein, President of the company. Please, you have the floor.
Henry Borenstein
executiveGood afternoon of those together with us, with Marcelo Bonanata; Roberval Toffoli; and Franco Gerodetti. We are here to talk about the results of the company in the third quarter 2020. With the surprising recovery, the third quarter was a period of recovery, positive recovery of this sector, it started at the end of 2019 and temporarily interrupted by the coronavirus. After the agenda of launches, we can ratify this scenario. The recovery of sales in June strengthened over the quarter. The period sales had 112% increase and 36% over the same period of '19. The -- especially the ready developments that totaled BRL 211 million and the Helbor part, BRL 149 million. And the 2 launches of the year, Helbor Window Moema and Helbor Supreme Pinheiros in the second week of September. BRL 215.7 million overcome 60% of sales in the first week. These developments mark the recovery of the projects that were ready and were not launched particularly in the first quarter. In this quarter, we also delivered Helbor Visionist Cabral, a midsized, mid-pattern development with 200 units and up to BRL 2 million in Helbor part. In the year, we delivered 5 developments totaling sales of part Helbor BRL 427 million, 1,000 net units. On the financial perspective, the third quarter had numbers that ratify the efforts of the company. It's worth to highlight that net profit of the BRL 15.1 million accumulated of the year, with a positive result reverting the losses presented in the 9-months losses of BRL 77 million, a 78% increase in the net revenue compared to the second quarter and 18% compared to the same period of last year. These results contribute with the improvement of the gross profit, a high of 138% and 35.9% superior to the first quarter -- third quarter of '19. Margins also improved the gross margin and the adjusted one closed in 18.8% and 26.6%, respectively. And the margin to appropriate reached 36.8%, reflects on the improvement of the projects. The company is making no efforts to control -- make all efforts to control expenses. Administrative expenses was BRL 61 million in accumulated 9 months, with a drop of 3.9% when compared to the same period of the previous year, a 3.2% fall compared to the third quarter of '19, and the financial expenses registered an expressive fall of 65.6% compared to the 3 quarter of '19, and 68% fall in the accumulated of the year when compared to the 9 months of '19. Now Marcelo Bonanata, our Sales Director, will share the operational data from Helbor.
Marcelo Lima Bonanata
executiveNow let's go to the operational results in the third quarter. First, I'd like to highlight that this quarter showed a huge recovery in volumes of sales, with the 2 launches in September. This scenario pushed us to regain the launchings. We now have the contracted sales, this [ BRL 1 million ] in the quarter. This number is 113% higher than the second quarter. Now looking to the 9 months of 2020. Even with the effects of the pandemic and lower volume, we reached BRL 1.036 billion, only 0.6% less in comparison with the same period of 2019. The part Helbor, since the beginning of '19, in the third quarter of '20, we reached BRL 319 million sales, 99% increase compared to the second quarter of '20, and 28% compared to the same period of last year of sales part Helbor. In the quarter, 48% corresponds to red units, showing our quality and efforts to sell the inventories. Now in Slide 5, now go to 6, Slide #6. Here, we see that this VSO, where we manage a part Helbor, reached 16.8% in the third quarter, superior to the one presented at the same period of 2019, registering 10.3% and the double in the second quarter of 2020. In the 9 months accumulated, we had an increase of 9.6 bps in relation to the same period of last year, reaching 36.4%. Now let's go to Slide #7. In this slide, we have the inventory of Helbor by segment and cities, where 88% are located in the Southeast region. This is very important, mainly in the state of São Paulo and Capital. This is well distributed among the segments, very high, high commercial, mid- and mid-high. In the next slide, #8, we show the evolution of the ready inventory that is being reduced every quarter. In the third quarter of 2020, we had BRL 1.079 billion. Now looking -- when we compare to the third quarter of '19, we have an expressive fall in our ready inventory of 26.6%. In Slide #9, we show how was the distribution of our land bank in September 30, 2020, predominantly in São Paulo and metropolitan region, accounting for 95% of the VGV part Helbor. Now I give the floor to Roberval Toffoli, our Financial Director. Roberval, please, you have the floor.
Roberval Toffoli
executiveThank you, Marcelo. Now let's go to the financial results. So on Slide 10, we show the evolution of the net revenue in the third quarter totaled BRL 322 million, with 18% increase compared to the third quarter of '19, and 79% of increase comparing to the second quarter of '20. In the 9 months accumulated in 2020, even with the pandemics, the net revenue reached BRL 761 million, 9.6% over the same period last year. On Slide 11, we see that the gross result of the quarter registered BRL 61 million, with a positive gross margin of 18%. This high is attributable to an improvement in the mix of sales, especially for units launched. The gross margin adjusted was 26.6%, a with an increase compared to the second quarter of '20 and the third quarter of '19. Slide 12 shows that we kept the appropriate margin with high levels in the third quarter, totaling 36.8%. This number ratifies the trend of the company of a significant improvement in its margins in the new projects that are being launched. Slide 13 shows that general and administrative expenses had a 3.9% drop in the 9 months accumulated, and the DGA and the SG&A of the third quarter of '20 had a drop of 3.2% compared to the same period of the previous year, and a slight drop of 1.8% in the second -- compared to the second quarter of '20, showing the efforts of the company to control expenses even in a scenario when we're returning the projects. Slide 14 shows The net results of the controller that was positive in BRL 15.2 billion in this quarter. In the accumulated of the year, the result is positive, reverting the losses of the 9 months of 2019. Slide 15 shows the total indebtedness of the company that significantly changed in its profile. In the closing of the year, it was BRL 1.6 billion when we had the same register of the previous year, a 10% decrease of the total indebtedness. And in the short term, it is 41%. Slide 16. We see a slight increase of -- in the relation of debt and net asset of 78.3% in the second quarter of '20 to 59% in the third quarter. When we compare it annually, the reduction was significantly going from 132% in the third quarter of '19, to 59% that we see on the graph. The reduction in this indebtedness when we compare the third quarter '20 versus third quarter '19 is a result of work of reescalation of the debt. We are improving the quality of our debt that is evidenced by the new cycle and the reduction of the legacy debt. In Slide 17, we show the cash burn of BRL 27 million in the third quarter of '20. This cash burn comes from the difference of the financing for the new cycle, and amortizations of the legacy funding. We are still at your disposal for any questions you may have. Thank you for your attention.
Franco Gerodetti
executive[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from [ Lucas Fabio ]. Considering the results better than the same period of 2019, and the interest rate is better to the consumer, it simulates consumption and this results in this scenario of Helbor. Why the share value is so low? Do you believe that the scraping of shares was correct?
Unknown Executive
executiveWell, Lucas, we've went through a strong pandemic period. The beginning of the year was very positive. The market suffered with this pandemic and the shares of the company reached a high peak, which determines the correct operation of grouping and, in our point of view, that this would happen. What we expect is that with this return, we will have a scenario closer to what happened last year, and that the results will naturally appear with this performance of the last quarter.
Franco Gerodetti
executiveThe next question is from [ Saloma ]. How many projects are expected to be launched in the fourth quarter?
Marcelo Lima Bonanata
executivePaulo, we have more 6 projects for the fourth quarter. We had 2 launches this last weekend, and the total VGV is over BRL 500 million.
Unknown Executive
executiveAnd just complementing Marcelo, this is happening in the third quarter because of the pandemic. So these projects were ready to be launched, and then the pandemics came and the company decided to take a more conservative position and to hold them until the climate was better.
Franco Gerodetti
executiveThe next question is also from [ Paulo Marci ]. It was clear the recovery of the margin, and what is the expectation that the margins will stop hindering the excellent margins of the projects?
Unknown Executive
executiveWell, Paulo, you are right. We are going back to have the margins that we usually had if you see our margins of 36.8%. But what I'd like to add is that the inventory of the legacy of the ready unit has also improved its price. And the combined margin is not the Helbor has always delivered, because you have new launches, but you don't see this revenue in the balance sheet. But if then, with the legacy inventory, we are able to gain the prices. And to answer you when we'll have a better margin, we have still 2 more launches. I think that in 6 months to 1 year, the company sold all the legacy inventory. Our projection to launch, the company will have a good volume of launches for next year. We have the land bank, we have a very well-located land, especially in São Paulo. So the company is ready to increase its volume of launchings. And if the market continues the way it is as this fourth quarter, we will be able to report better margins in a shorter time -- period time. [Technical Difficulty]
Franco Gerodetti
executiveThe next question is from Gustavo Cambauva. I have 2 questions. First, what is your expectations for the pace of recovery for 2021? And second, what is the view of the company for the other markets? We know that the market is strong in the state of São Paulo, but what is the performance in the other regions?
Marcelo Lima Bonanata
executiveWell, 2021, the company is prepared to launch what we promised. The VGV part Helbor of about BRL 1.6 billion. We have a condition to see if the market continue this way to launch even more, but at least BRL 1.6 billion basic in the city of São Paulo and the other regions. But we have a building in Curitiba. It is a legacy development that suffered. But in spite of all the things, we have good margins, and the speed of sales is really surprising. So the idea of the company in a short term is to have -- is not to launch outside São Paulo, except for Joinville, we are having a presales. And in case we have a good response, we will continue, and also a small development, a low-risk range. But the focus of the company is prime in São Paulo and Great São Paulo. And to add, we had 2 launches in São Paulo in Moema and Pinheiros. Last week, a launch in Campinas that is already 100% sold, and we had other launches in Caminhos da Lapa, and now we have one more launch outside São Paulo. But it's Great São Paulo. It's in Mogi das Cruzes. So I share your comments, we work very well in the city of São Paulo and in the state in São Paulo. And we are well positioned. In addition to this volume, it's very important to say that the quality of our land bank and diversity of products. There is no concentration of one single product.
Unknown Executive
executiveAnd to add to what Marcelo said, the company has a very diversified land bank in the Great São Paulo and in the city of São Paulo. And we don't have a concentration of studios or 1-room apartment. We have studio 1-bed, 2-bedrooms, 3-bedrooms and highest levels. So our land bank is very diversified. And Caminhos da Lapa, as Marcelo mentioned, I invite those who are listening to us to visit our sales booth. It's a land bank of quality in the city of São Paulo, with the land of almost 100,000 square meter, a land bank that will provide fruits for several years, and we transformed the neighborhood. This has been very nice. We are proud of this development. And the sales performance is very good, not only the ones that were launched last year, the first phase of Caminhos da Lapa, as well as the new launch. So I think that very few companies have such quality land bank inside the city of São Paulo.
Franco Gerodetti
executiveNext question from [ Matthias ]. Can you comment on the sales performance, variation of sales of the third quarter?
Unknown Executive
executiveMatthias, W is in a very interesting moment. The works have just started in the third quarter. So it is a transition moment to the market. We launched the physical place. We are selling online through our online platform. But of course, we have a de-acceleration of sales when we have this transaction. We are focusing. We have a strict focus. We have a great mass to continue the sales. So I don't see any problems. We are creating a sales center that would be, in our opinion, one of the best sales -- center of sales. It is where -- it was the old Octavio Café. In January, we start the sales center and the decor-ed apartment of W will go there. And we are sure enough that we will have the pace we've planned that we have for this development. We are working with online platforms, and we are selling. Things are happening. But as of January, we'll be very good. And W is a differentiated product in São Paulo, close to avenue Juscelino Kubitschek and Faria Lima. It's a development that has a good margin. So we are not in a hurry to sell. We are taking care of it because it's a unique development. It is sold well, and then the pandemics came. Nobody knew what to do. And in spite of the pandemics, the real estate market recovered, and it's a complex work because it is a high development that has a tower -- a residential tower and a hotel tower. And now we have high expectations of this sales center where it used to be the Octavio Cafe. And as soon as the vaccine comes, people will start going out and they will visit our place. We are taking the decorated apartment of W, and all the mid and high standard that we call prime to this sales center. With this, we'll consolidate the sales of W. And this is a good moment for this type of product.
Franco Gerodetti
executiveThe next question comes from Lucas. Do you believe that the operational agreement with HBR can reduce the commercial and administrative costs of Helbor? And how many PPs?
Unknown Executive
executiveWell, look, we expect that this synergy will bring a financial benefit to both companies in terms of administrative and commercial costs, each of these will have its own platforms. Right now, we are mapping all the areas of the company that will be part of this mapping, so we can give a good -- a positive feedback to the market. The company has always focused on costs. We are a company -- we are a lean company, and we want to be. And this story of [ CSC ] will improve even more this relationship.
Franco Gerodetti
executiveWell, the next question is from [ Fabio Gusto ]. Concerning the ready inventory, do you have any specific strategy for sales? And what are the units you feel will be more hard to sell?
Marcelo Lima Bonanata
executiveAntonio, what we see and we showed a significant decrease when compared to the 9 months of last month, in relation to the ready inventory of 26% fall. And we've been working on this month after month. After the pandemics, the market return in a V form, with a decreasing interest rates, and we are able to foster not only the sales of launches, but the ready units. And my boss here beside me demands me every day, especially of the ready units, because it's maximum concentration. launches are a consequence of this. So we are very happy with the results, because not only we have sales speed more constant, but we are able to repass this to the price. This gives us a return and improves our margins. As for the difficulty that Antonio asked, I believe that we solved a great part of our commercial inventory, with all the operation we had of Multi Renda, but we still have a small inventory that is a reasonable number of units. But it is still a challenge. It's not a region, but a topology that has been decreasing. We have a sales teams trained for that. So we evolved a lot, and we expect to continue and to sell the units we still have in inventory.
Unknown Executive
executiveJust adding to what Marcelo mentioned, the sales speed is related to interest rate and LPV. For the -- during the crisis of the real estate market, the interest rate was 11%, now it's 6% a year. So more people can afford to buy, and Helbor has the ready units. So Helbor is able to sell these ready units. We will continue. And also the LPVs, the banks are financing a higher part of the value of the real estate. And talking about the commercial, it's important so that creative -- we've been very creative during the crisis. We did a series of interventions and strategies that we turned the table. This is the result. You see our financial statements, the company is improving its margins, and what we are going to do for the next quarter and the next year, we have 2 developments that are condo hotels: one in Santos, another in Curitiba, and this is a commercial assets. And we studied the market, we studied the legislation, and now we are transforming this condo hotels and apartments with services. With this, we will decrease significant part of ready units to sell. Another asset we have was commercial building in the city of Rio de Janeiro, that in spite of all the crisis in Rio de Janeiro, et cetera, the company was able to rent the entire building, and possibly in this quarter or in the beginning of next year, we will go to the market to sell this commercial building as we did last year. So these 3 [ altitudes ] of the company will reduce even more our legacy of ready units, commercial-ready units.
Unknown Executive
executiveJust adding. The interest rate is in the lowest historical level. In more than 20 years, I've never seen such an attractive interest rate and also, is the percentage that the banks are financing. Today, the client has an installment that fits in his pocket, and our product is of very good quality. That's why we think and we believe that we believe that we'll be able to sell our ready units in 12 months. The environment is very positive. The banks have a positive competition among them, positive to us and to the buyer, decreasing their rates. So the environment has never been so favorable to -- for us to sell and adding the volume of reps that the company sees The company will deliver this year BRL 800 million to BRL 1 billion. It's a very expressive volume.
Franco Gerodetti
executiveThe next question is from [ Paulo Marci ]. HBR will buy the Klabin project? Or is it in the development? And if HBR will buy this vis-à-vis, does it enters in the sales of the company?
Unknown Executive
executiveHBR will enter in the development by its fraction of the land, paying for it and assuming all the costs of its fraction. It's not buying. It's developing together the product. Once again, do the temperature we see when you combine retail organized for this incorporation is a differential and attraction. We see a movement from the competition in the place, a company that opened the capital went IPO, with a similar product, 200 meters far. But our product is performing better because it's large apartments with 4 bedrooms and studio, 1 and 2 bedrooms. These investors are those who want to see -- to invest, they see that the interest rate is low, and they go to buy a real estate. And the fact that you'll have a mall with several stores is sales attractive and differential in our product. We are expecting for the results at the end of the month, but the temperature is very good. So it shows again that this synergy generates value to everybody. Value to Helbor, value to the store owner, generates value for those who acquired the real estate and it's a different complex. Not only this project specifically of Klabin, but in our projects in the city of São Paulo, almost all the development, the corporator will have its part. So we see the difficulty after it's ready to give a destination. And when we have this partnership with HBR, we develop a model with the -- its own destination. So today, the sales team see the mark, the brand of HBR, as a great argument -- sales argument. So this is facilitating our lives. We have a case in Rio, development that we sold due to the characteristics of the city. And today, in the avenue, we have funeral house. So you lose the destination of it. So the buyer of the unit is really concerned what it is going to have in the ground floor. HBR has the best brands, and we need to do the right mix. We are adding price and value to every development.
Unknown Executive
executiveWell, this concludes the Q&A session and the conference call. We'd like to thank you for your participation. So we close now this disclosure of the third quarter of 2020, but we are available to clarify any questions you may have. Thank you, and have a nice day. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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