Henry Schein, Inc. (HSIC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 10, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care conference_presentation 39 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Erin Wilson

analyst
#1

Hi, everybody. This is Erin Wright. I cover life sciences tools, diagnostics for Crédit Suisse. I am welcoming everyone to our 2020 health care conference. It's obviously in a virtual format this year, which is a little bit different. [Operator Instructions] Without further ado, I'd like to introduce the management team for Henry Schein. We have the 2 leaders of the company: Chairman and CEO, Stanley Bergman, real pleasure to have you here; and then also Steve Paladino, who is the EVP and CFO, with us today. And I'll first hand it over to Steve to offer some -- as well as then followed by Stanley to talk for some initial remarks.

Steven Paladino

executive
#2

Okay. Thank you very much, Erin. I just want to state as we begin that I'd like to note that certain comments made during this call may include information that is forward looking. And as people know, that there are certain risks and uncertainties involved in the company's business that may affect the matters referred to in forward-looking statements. Therefore, as a result, the company's performance may differ from those expressed and/or indicated by such forward-looking statements. And all of these forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements contained in Henry Schein's SEC filings. So let me turn it over to Stanley Bergman for some opening comments.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#3

Thank you, Steven. Thank you, Erin, for hosting us. I'll make very few comments because I think it's best to allow for Q&A. So Henry Schein, and I assume people on this conference call today know we're the largest provider of products and related services to office-based practitioners. We have about 1 million customers around the world. It's about 1.5 million practitioners, dentists, physicians, ambulatory care services, governments, anywhere where practitioners are dealing with patients generally outside of the acute care setting, out of the drugstore setting and out of the long-term care setting. Our model is generally a high touch. We have about 3,500 field sales consultants around the world. We break the business down into Dental and Medical. At Dental, we of course provide consumables, equipment, pharmaceuticals, software. We're the largest provider of dental practice management electronic medical records software in the world. We also manufacture and distribute under our own brands specialty products for dentists. On the physician side, the Medical side, we are quite a large player in this alternate care side space. Our business was severely impacted in April and May by lockdowns in the United States. Those lockdowns were generally removed and, in fact, globally by middle -- end of May, June. Generally, our -- there are no parts of the world where there is a physician or dental lockdown where you can't go to a physician or a dentist. Of course, you can go, and our customers are practicing safe distancing. It's very important that infection control, sepsis control has been carefully monitored in our sector for a long time, started in the mid-'80s with AIDS. Different kind of infection, but dentists and physicians are very, very careful. Of course, it drove a lot of PPE sales. We're also, in the Medical business, active in the testing arena, point-of-care tests for the office-based environment. And generally, our third quarter was quite good. Sales in non-COVID-related products, that's PPE and tests, maybe some things like thermometers, was about flat to slightly positive. And we indicated in our recent conference call that similar trends have continued in October. We're quite optimistic about the business. We think our high-touch, high-value-added proposition works. The only thing we can't be certain about now is the impact of the second or maybe some would call it the third wave in the developed world of Europe and the United States. And so that is precluding us from being -- providing guidance. But we're quite optimistic about the business. And clearly, people have gone back to the dentist and to the physician office. So Erin, I don't know if there's anything more specific, but really Steve and I are ready to answer questions.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#4

Great. That was a great intro. And when we think about more broadly the underlying demand trends that you're seeing across both North America and international Dental businesses, I think we've been getting a lot of questions kind of what you saw throughout the most recent quarter in terms of a -- somewhat of a recovery and then also kind of how we should envision that continuing potentially into the fourth quarter and what you're seeing quarter-to-date in terms of demand trends.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#5

Yes. So basically, our core business of dental and medical consumables is relatively flat. If you take out PPE and you take out testing, those are much more significant growth areas. The visits to dental offices in the United States, the ADA has indicated somewhere around 77% of pre -- turns out of pre-COVID period. It's hard to get an exact handle. But generally, most dental practices are open or maybe a little slower in terms of taking a bit more time between patients because of infection control, the procedures. But generally, it's pretty stable. We don't know where this is going to head in terms of an increase in infection rates. But clearly, as I said earlier on, there is a demand for these services. And I doubt, although we'd never know for sure, a general lockdown will happen again as occurred in the United States. In Europe, it's pretty stable, although we've seen an increase in infection rate. Other than the U.K., I would say it's pretty stable. Yes, Italy and Spain are a little bit more of a challenge, but Germany is -- people are going to the dentists. And as I said, Asia, Australia, New Zealand are pretty stable, slightly growing. So that's on the consumables side. On the equipment side, we gave an indication of our backlog. Slightly down in the U.S. because of the Dentsply Sirona World conference -- congress, which will go virtual this year. It won't be as exciting as in previous years. And in Europe, the equipment book is pretty good for the fourth quarter. Steven, I'm not sure if you want to add anything to that. Maybe you should.

Steven Paladino

executive
#6

Sure. Yes, I think you covered a lot. One of the things that we said on the conference call is that we do expect -- we didn't give a time frame around it, but we do expect that our sales would moderate somewhat going forward. And some of the reasons we said that Stanley covered, I'll go through them again, we are seeing an increase in positive COVID-19 cases both in the U.S. and Europe. Europe has a number of lockdowns. The only good news about the lockdowns is dental and medical practices are still open. But people may not go to their dentists or medical doctor as much with these lockdowns. We'll just have to wait and see. In the U.S., we saw something similar. The ADA that puts out statistics every couple of weeks on patient traffic, slightly -- showed slight declines in patient traffic from about 79% of pre-COVID levels to 77% of pre-COVID levels. So it's hard to tell whether that's just a little bit of an anomaly or a trend, and we'll have to wait and see. And then the last couple of things is we do expect that pricing on PPE and COVID-related items will normalize. Pricing was very much inflated when there was short supply. And now, that pricing is coming down a little bit. And the last thing I'll mention is on the dental specific. We see that the procedures in dental offices are trending much more towards higher-acuity procedures. And I think that's because of pent-up demand, where for a while people really couldn't go or didn't want to go to the dentist. And now when they're coming back, they're doing more acute procedures rather than hygiene procedures. And that's good for us because the higher the acuity level, generally, the more consumables supplies one uses. But over time, we would expect hygiene procedures to normalize, and that will have a little bit of an impact on sales. So for those reasons -- and because the outlook is so uncertain, we just said, let's be a little bit more cautious on sales growth going forward. We're not aware of anything specific. October was good. October was a very strong month for us, and we talked about that on the call. But we do think that it's possible that sales could moderate a little bit in the short to medium term.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#7

Does it seem like you've worked through some of that pent-up demand at this point?

Steven Paladino

executive
#8

The pent-up demand on PPE products or...

Erin Wilson

analyst
#9

In -- on dental procedures.

Steven Paladino

executive
#10

I think for the most part, it's been worked through. Dentists have had pretty full schedules. And on myself, I had to have some dental work done recently, and I had to go to 3 different dentists. And each time I had to make an appointment, it was a little bit of a wait. So I think their calendars are pretty full. And we'll see whether that'll slow a little bit like the ADA survey has indicated.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#11

And what have you seen across specialty like the implant business in particular? How has that been impacted? How should we think about growth trends across that business in this environment?

Steven Paladino

executive
#12

Yes. Going along with -- the more acute procedures are stronger right now. That's helped the specialty side. So we had very strong growth in dental specialty products worldwide, 6.5%, and especially strong in North America with 14.8% sales growth. All of that's organic, so really very strong numbers for the specialty business led by dental implants.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#13

Okay. And then on PPE, it represents, I think, 10% of the dental sales in the second quarter alone and then now mid-single digit -- or versus the mid-single digits, which is like the historical level that we've seen. How -- to what extent, I guess, do you expect the trends to continue across the PPE in terms of the contributions that it's adding from a growth perspective? And thoughts on longer-term utilization here. It sounds like there's sort of a paradigm shift in terms of infection control across this business now. But is -- are you already starting to see some of that? Or is it just hard to tell at this point?

Steven Paladino

executive
#14

Well, if you're asking -- we think that PPE will stay at very elevated levels from pre-COVID levels. People will continue to wear face masks, gloves. And not just the clinical staff but also the office staff. So we think -- and all the protocols that are needed in disinfecting and cleaning the [indiscernible] will stay. The only thing is it may pull back slightly because of pricing that I just mentioned a little bit earlier.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#15

But we think the mix will -- our PPE and COVID-type products, including testing and thermometers and stuff, will remain pretty high as a percent of our total sales, although there will be some moderating on the prices. But margins will be good.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#16

The -- I did want to kind of dig into the pricing a little bit. How has the mix of PPE maybe changed? Is that a component? Or is there just an underlying price erosion across that segment?

Steven Paladino

executive
#17

When you say the mix maybe -- I'm just not sure I understand what your...

Erin Wilson

analyst
#18

Within the PPE, like was there higher-priced kind of PPE products that then the mix shifted in terms of demand trends across -- over the course of the pandemic? Or was it just broader kind of price degradation across the group?

Steven Paladino

executive
#19

Yes. We saw -- the extreme volatility in pricing in Q2 and Q3 was mostly on face masks. And there's -- people think there's just one face mask, but there's a number of different types of face masks. And the pricing literally week to week, what we could buy it for from the same manufacturer changed pretty significantly. That's kind of almost normalized now. That supply is much stronger. And so I think the pricing will stay relatively consistent going forward. We are seeing a little bit of a new dynamic on examination gloves, most specifically nitrile gloves, which seems to be in short supply right now. So we could see some volatility in nitrile gloves and gloves in general going forward. Gloves is the most popular PPE item that we sell. It's a very big item. It's followed by face masks as the second most popular. But it's really -- we understand from the manufacturing community that ramping up production of face masks is easier and takes a shorter time period than examination gloves on a technical reason why, but it will take a little bit longer. So we'll just have to wait and see what happens with examination gloves. But it could provide for a little bit of volatility in the very short term.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#20

Okay. Okay. And so given some of those pricing dynamics, how should we think about underlying margin trends from -- like obviously, the gross margin was a little bit lighter in the most recent quarter. Does that continue into the fourth quarter and beyond given some of those dynamics that you mentioned? Or what are some of the moving pieces there that we should be aware of?

Steven Paladino

executive
#21

Yes. We didn't really give specific guidance on this, but I'll repeat what we said. The largest item related to the lower gross margin was because of inventory adjustments that we needed to take on PPE. Again, we bought a lot of product in order to satisfy customer demand. And even if the price was high, we felt that having product available for customers was more important because if you don't have the PPE, you may lose more than just a PPE sale. You may lose the entire order, and you may even lose the customer if they go someplace else. So that was the priority for us. I think it made sense to do that. But that was the largest item. And then the second-largest item was supplier rebates. We do get performance-based supplier rebates from our manufacturing partners. And all of those targets were set pre-COVID. And given Q2, with the sharp decline in revenue in Q2, there's no way we can meet any of the annual goals. So we had very little supplier rebates in the current year compared to the prior year. Now hopefully, both of those items will normalize going forward. So we're optimistic about that. But again, there's a lot of moving parts and a lot of volatility. So that's why we didn't give more guidance or more specific guidance than what I just said. Are you still there, Erin? I think we're having a little bit of technical difficulties. [Technical Difficulty] Okay. So for those listening in, we lost our host. So give us a moment and hopefully, we'll get her back and we'll continue along. Stanley, maybe while we're waiting, I know we get this question a lot, so maybe you can comment a little bit about our potential for getting a COVID vaccine in the future and also how we're doing on test kits because I know a lot of people have those questions. So maybe while we're waiting, you can comment on that.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#22

So do you think people can hear us? How do we know? [Technical Difficulty] All right. So on the vaccine, so the initial -- we've been in touch with most of our vaccine manufacturers. I think we do business with all but 1 or 2 of the COVID vaccine manufacturers already. We're a significant distributor of flu and other kinds of vaccines and injectables. And the impression we get is that the initial shipments will be made through a third-party logistics distributor on behalf of the government. But eventually, it is likely that the COVID vaccine will be distributed in a way that is similar to other vaccines. We may not actually physically distribute certain of the vaccines that have to be stored at a very cold temperature. Today, if a vaccine that we sell or injectable is required to be stored at unusually low temperature, the manufacturer usually drop-ships on our behalf, but we take the order and transfer it. So we do expect at some point to be invited into the distribution of the vaccine when it returns to normal distribution channels. As it relates to tests, and Schein has been, like with vaccines, a key distributor of point-of-care rapid tests to physician offices and other alternate care sites. We've been doing this for decades. We started distributing various COVID tests back in March or April. We have a very strong demand from physicians and some of our industrial customers who are seeking to distribute the -- who are seeking to buy the tests. Our challenge right now is we can't obtain enough. The government is still buying a lot of these tests from our manufacturers. But as tests become available, they're being given to us, and we have no problem selling them. I think Steven indicated that -- on our call that we've sold about $90 million of COVID tests during the third quarter. We don't know when the government will open it up. But as soon as the government opens up more testing, which comes in the form of platform devices or -- and consumables, reagents that go with that -- sometimes the manufacturers have the devices and sometimes they only have the reagents. And sometimes a couple may have the devices and not enough reagents. The market is still somewhat dislocated, but we're hopeful that the market will become more perfect in the months ahead and we will have access to the test. We expect these tests to be needed for a while. And our customers view us as a good place to buy these kinds of tests and a good place to be educated on the various tests that are available. But it's been an important area from a public health point of view and from a business point of view for Henry Schein. Steven, what other questions have been asked?

Steven Paladino

executive
#23

Yes. Maybe we can talk a little bit, Stanley, about we did announce on our call that we are resuming our M&A activities. Well, we put them on temporary pause during the height of COVID in March, April. And maybe you could talk about some of the strategic things we're looking to accomplish through M&A activities.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#24

Yes, Steven, you're a very good interviewer, I have to say that. So our M&A pipeline was very strong in February. We turned it off in March. We restarted the pipeline about a month ago. I don't think we lost too many deals, maybe a deal here or there. Not that we lost it, but maybe there were some challenges or changes in the dynamics in a potential company that we wanted to invest in. And the pipeline has also been added to recently. So we will continue to make acquisitions to strengthen our particular market share on consumables and equipment in any particular market or expand to new markets. We will add additional M&A activity to our practice management business and other value-added services. Lots and lots of opportunity to either expand into new geographies but, more important, to add additional services to our existing platform. We think there's an important opportunity in advancing value-added services, as I noted but also specialty products, dental, medical, both on the dental side -- and both dental and medical on the dental side, in the oral surgery space, specifically implants, bone regeneration products, endodontic products, orthodontic products. And we expect to continue to expand there. Also, we have a smallish device business in the medical arena, primarily in the orthopedic space today, and we are hopeful to add to that. So those are the general areas we -- usually dilutive in the first year because of deal costs. But generally, by the second year, these deals are accretive. And we have a hurdle rate that we utilize for the cost of capital much more than the interest rate, cost that has to be met on each of these transactions, whether it's a total acquisition or an investment in a business that we have a -- own a percentage of the equity.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#25

And sorry about that disruption there.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#26

That's okay.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#27

It's the inevitable complexity of having a virtual format here, so sorry about that.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#28

No problem.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#29

But I know you're talking about M&A here. I did want to ask, and sorry if you covered it already, the TDSC transaction was obviously a unique one for you. Can you speak a little bit about the rationale and background behind that deal?

Stanley Bergman

executive
#30

Sure, Erin. So we have known the people that run the California Dental Association for a long time. And essentially, what happened is there were a number of dentist members that were seeking to set up a buying group for smaller practitioners to compete better against some of the large DSOs that were getting a better price. Larger DSOs very often get a better price because there's no marketing cost involved, no sales commission. Generally, their orders are larger, so it's much more profitable to manage those orders. And very often, a huge part, if not all, the orders are digital, so it's less expensive. So we've been talking to the California Dental Association for a long time about partnering in this area to ensure that they offer a form of a buying group to their members. They also have started expanding their offering to membership of other associations in other states. And it was only natural that we should invest in this business. The business sits side by side with our core Henry Schein Dental full-service business in the U.S. These salespeople in that business get the normal commission on sales through TDSC. And it's really just an alternative way to buy products, taking advantage of the buying group opportunity and obviously a wider variety of products now available to TDSC than before the deal. Of course, it's a web-only platform, but the features, the benefits are not materially different to what Henry Schein offers to our customers through the Henry Schein distribution website.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#31

And are there other deals similar to this that makes sense for you?

Stanley Bergman

executive
#32

I don't think there's anything quite like this, Erin. This is a very unique situation where good friends felt they had to set up a business to get their customers certain value. We showed that we could provide that value and more, so it's a very unique situation. But there are, of course, distribution businesses in the specialty area, in the value-added area that we're definitely interested in adding to in markets that we're in but also going into new markets, new geographies.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#33

Okay. Great. And can you give us an update on Henry Schein One, where you are at with this venture and the demand generation thereon? And what's your strategy to expand adoption across practices?

Stanley Bergman

executive
#34

Yes, Erin. So why the Henry Schein One joint venture? So Henry Schein, what was called our practice solutions business, had the largest installed base of practice management software and electronic medical record software. We were doing some e-commerce-type activity, namely claims processing, but a huge part of the dental software market is in the business of providing demand generation software, in its simplest form the recall card but also including areas such as websites, risk management tools, reputation management tools for the practitioners. And the Internet Brands Group, which is a business owned by KKR, has the largest installed base of this kind of value-added service, value-added in the context of being added to practice management software, electronic medical record software. Internet Brands owns a consumer automobile internet company, I think one of the first, and also owns WebMD. So they have very good knowledge of the consumer market. We have more knowledge on the dental markets, the professional markets. And there are a lot of synergies to be reaped by tying the Internet Brands' software for demand generation to the platform software of Henry Schein's practice management systems. So those products are now being offered through Internet Brands through those -- Internet Brands products are being offered through Henry Schein, and so that's where the synergies are. The venture is bringing together more and more of these activities, bundling software, practice management software, electronic medical record services and often, in addition, bundling that kind of software with our consumables and equipment. So these strategies have a long way to go, but we're making progress in this area of bringing value-added services beyond distribution of consumables to our customers.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#35

Okay. That makes sense. And then switching gears a little bit, I did want to ask on your DSO strategy, how that's evolved. And any major DSO contracts that you anticipate coming up for bid anytime soon? And underlying volatility with some of the changes that have been made from a DSO contract standpoint over the past year.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#36

Yes, Erin. We compete in this DSO space. We believe we have the widest variety of products and services for a DSO, whether it's simple supply chain on the consumables side or unique products that we carry that others don't carry, whether it's our private brand, whether it's the unique relationships we have with some of the world national brand products. Our software is very unique, and we have very good software for that marketplace. We believe our specialty products, our premium products are well-priced, highly rated products, well received in the DSO world. So we regularly visit with the distributors together with some manufacturers to see how we can improve the P&L and the quality of products and the overall service that these DSOs may receive from different providers of products and services. So there are always bids, and there's always awards. Occasionally, we lose a deal because we won't go below a certain point level -- pricing level. So there's always activity going on. I'm sure there's plenty going on at this time while we're talking.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#37

And I know, Steve, you've also highlighted sort of how the profit profile works for a lot of those and that you do see some leverage across that business over time as the relationships evolve and mature. When you talk about DSO relationships, is that still the thinking you have as it relates to the profitability of some of your DSO relationships?

Steven Paladino

executive
#38

Yes. Well, we've said the DSO is lower profitability, is lower margin. They do get lower prices. We mitigate a lot of those on expenses. One of our goals, though, is to not just sell the core dental products that we typically sell to DSOs but to also get them to buy some of our specialty products as well as our technology products. And there's a lot of interest there, so hopefully, we'll be able to do more of that in the future.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#39

Okay. And then speaking to some of the innovation we've seen across the space, you spoke to sell-out trends. For instance, CAD/CAM in the most recent quarter, that was strong. I think people were surprised to see the -- an element of demand for certain capital equipment even in this environment. Was that surprising to you? And what -- do you think that continues kind of going into the fourth quarter? I guess there are some dynamics around DS World and stuff like that. But how are you thinking about capital equipment trends?

Stanley Bergman

executive
#40

Yes, Erin. The basic capital equipment markets in the U.S. and abroad are stable. Practitioners are investing. There are certain categories that are more robust. Certainly, anything that is infection control, sepsis control-driven, anything that reduces the number of visits to the practice is of interest. And so, for example, digital prosthetics, scanners, DI are popular. There are many brands of these products out there. We represent most of them, not all. But generally, that part of the business is doing quite well. But actually, the equipment business in itself, the traditional chairs, units, lights, doing well. I would say imaging is a little bit stressed right now. The pricing has come down a bit on some of this imaging hardware, software. There are different kinds of aerosol systems that we now sell. We had a problem getting enough, but I think we more or less have enough right now. Certainly, practitioners don't have to wait a long time to get them. That's fueling growth as well. Not massive, but it is fueling growth. So generally, equipment is stable. Europe was not perfect last quarter. It looks like it's getting a little bit strong now. And the U.S. was quite strong last quarter, flattish. You would never have thought in the middle of a virus it would be flat. But it was flat, leaning positive, with a slight suppression now because of the Dentsply Sirona World. But the fourth quarter is always a reasonable quarter. Last year was an outstanding quarter. So I don't know. Anything else you want to add, Steven?

Steven Paladino

executive
#41

The only other new dynamic is income taxes. And tax people are believing that tax rates are going to go up next year with the -- with President Biden. So that may cause people to shift out of Q4 a little bit into Q1 for purchases. I don't know if that -- it's all timing, so we don't really worry about that all that much, but that could have an impact this year. It's a new dynamic.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#42

Okay. And then just one quickly. In terms of underlying margin leverage across your business over the longer term, what would you say are the top 5 drivers of that kind of going forward, top 3 to 5 drivers over the next 3 to 5 years as we think about underlying margin leverage across your business? Is it focusing more on areas such as technology or specialty or medical even? And like is there some unique opportunities where you think there will be significant drivers?

Steven Paladino

executive
#43

It's basically twofold with some subcategories. We believe that we can continue to expand margins by leveraging our infrastructure and driving more volume on the core distribution businesses, whether it's Dental or Medical. And the second key area is driving higher-margin products that could be in core distribution, but it's also dental specialties as well as technology products. We would like to see them continue to grow at faster clips. And I think both of those initiatives will allow us to continue to get overall margin expansion. That, Erin, is a long-term comment. We have to get out of this COVID situation and all the volatility related to COVID. So we're not making any short-term predictions on that. But long term, we still feel that, that model is still intact.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#44

Basically, the specialty products and the software carry much higher margin than the traditional consumable and equipment business. Smaller sales but higher margin and contributing quite a bit in gross profit, absolute terms and dollar terms. So the pivoting of the business towards specialty and software will, of course, be very positive from a margin generation point of view and all the various value-added services that we offer at margin. We will drive efficiency, of course, as we have done for years on the basic distribution side. And so that, plus these specialty areas and software businesses will drive up our margin.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#45

Okay. All right. Thank you so much for the time. And sorry for the disruption here. But hopefully, your other meetings run smoothly.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#46

Very good. We had no issues. In fact, we didn't lose any time. Steven asked the questions.

Erin Wilson

analyst
#47

Okay. Great. Thank you so much.

Steven Paladino

executive
#48

Okay, Erin.

Stanley Bergman

executive
#49

Thank you.

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