hVIVO plc (HVO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 17, 2024

London Stock Exchange GB Health Care Life Sciences Tools and Services investor_day 146 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Yamin Khan

executive
#1

All right. Thank you, everyone, for attending our CMD today. And it's a really pleasure to have all of you in the room. I'm Yamin Mo Khan, I'm the CEO of hVIVO, and welcome to our Capital Markets Day at the world's largest human challenge trial facility. Of course, it's not this floor. We're in the 24th and the 25th floor, but Canary Wharf Group have kindly given us this floor to hold this CMD. This CMD will be webcasted. So I'd also like to extend my welcome to everyone who's attending this virtually online, and welcome to this CMD. For those of you who are here in real life, a few housekeeping items. We're not expecting a fire alarm test today. So just so you know, we do have fire marshals on the floor. If you do hear the fire alarm, please use the fire exit just there on the right-hand side, do not use the lifts. And the facilities, the ladies facilities are just there on the right; for the men's, you have to go right and right again, just on the right-hand side. Please turn off your phone, I know you guys are really, really important, at least for a couple of hours, mute your phones or turn them off, that would be great. In the audience today, we've got, I think, around 100 people across from the city, from analysts, brokers, investors, all source, which is -- I mean, it's for a little old hVIVO voice as a hell of an achievement that so many of you guys can come out and hear about us as really kind of really pleased. We did have our official opening day last week. We had just over 100 people attend. And we had attendance from across the big pharma, the biotech, the big global CROs. We also had people from academia, there's UCL, for example, Imperial. I think we have people from all over Europe, from the U.S. and Japan. It was really well attended. And I think people are really excited about the human challenge trial concept, right? So for those of you who don't know what we do, we do it a special kind of clinker trial, which is a human challenge trial where we inoculate people intentionally with the virus to help pharmaceutical companies develop vaccines and antivirals. And if you're interested to get a top-level view, there's a really good article in the Telegraph Saturday magazine, not this Saturday, this Saturday before, second of July, I think. So it's sort of like 5-page follow the volunteer article, which gives you a real idea. Yesterday, there was something in the Daily Mail, again, talking about FluCamp and are we -- recruit and treat volunteers. And for those of you who watch to [indiscernible] , they also discussed us. I know some avid [indiscernible] audience here. So for those of you working from home, with a few hours spare, there's something to do. Human challenge trials as a concept has a long history. And back in 1796, a guy called Edward Jenner in Gloucestershire, he inoculated the 8-year-old gardener's son with a virus called cowpox. So what he noticed was that at the time, smallpox was prevalent across the area with around 1 in 3 people dying from it. And he noticed the milking maids in his farm had bruises on their arms, but none of them got smallpox. So he surmised that they were getting some sort of an infection from the cows that protected them from getting the smallpox. So it is very unethical experiment basically. So he get this 8-year-old boy and he injected this boy with the pus from the -- I know it's not good, right? But the pus from this milking maids. And then a week later, he did something worse, which is give this boy smallpox. I mean smallpox is very dangerous. But thankfully, the kid didn't get smallpox because the cowpox effectively acted as a vaccine, okay? And that's where the word vaccine comes from vacca, which in Latin means from the milk, right? So that was the first time a human challenge trial was done. But -- I assure you, they have come a long way with regards to safety and the well-being of the volunteers and so on. But our company also has roots going decades back. So after the second world war, there's a U.S. military hospital near Salisbury built by Harvard Medical School, and they donated that hospital to the U.K. government and the U.K. government decided to open what's called a Common Cold Unit. And their big aim was to basically eradicate the common cold. Of course, I'm sure you all experienced, the common cold is still around. They weren't able to achieve that mission, but they were able to identify the very first coronavirus back in 1960, which, of course, is very relevant these days. In 1989, that Common Cold Unit closed its doors for the last time. And one of the leaders of the Common Cold Unit at that time, Professor John Oxford, who was actually here last week at our opening day. He then opened a company called Retroscreen, which was really a laboratory for virology and immunology. We, of course, rebranded Retroscreen into hVIVO. And then a few years later, Open Orphan acquired hVIVO and Venn Life Sciences. And then in 2021, we -- sorry, 2021, '22, we ran the world's first COVID challenge trial. And that was a big turning point for the company, right? Because before then, human challenge trials were not the mainstream of conducting trials as for drug development purposes, and the fact that we could run a challenge trial effectively in the middle of a pandemic, I think, turned the whole concept around. And we have had a significant increase in interest in human challenge trials. I joined in late 2022 -- 2021, sorry. And since then, I think we've grown tremendously well, right? We achieved so much. We've done so much. We've revamped our sales strategy. We no longer sell hVIVO as a company. We sell the human challenge trial as a concept because we know that if we're able to convince a client to do a human challenge trial, we will most likely get that work because 90% of the market share is with us. We've changed our operational strategies, whereby we can run multiple challenge trials at the same time. And hopefully, you've seen the positive results of that not only in just this trading update but also the last couple of years. And that's something we want to continue to build on. So we invested significantly in our headcount. We doubled our permanent head count over the last 2 years. We invested in our lab services as well as our technology platform. And as we continue to run these trials, of course, we get more and more demand from our clients. And I think one of our clients asked us to do something, we couldn't within the time frame they wanted it. And they told us to go back and think outside the box and see what you can do. And we said the only way we can finish your trial to your timeline is that we have to build out on new facilities. And they said, how much? We gave them a number. It was a big number, by the way, right? And they said, they agree, let's say, fine, go in and do it. So we began to design a new facility where we can accommodate their study and complete that faster. While that was in the design phase, we had a second client who said to us, they have the intention to do a COVID challenge trial. Now in our previous facilities, we couldn't do a COVID challenge trial because COVID is a what's called a Containment Level 3 virus. It means that you require a higher level of pathogen control, infection control. And a CL3 facility had lots of additional requirements. So things like you need to have a power redundancies. So in fact, this building has 4 different power lines coming into it as well as a generator on the roof. You need to have negative pressure. My colleague, Mann will describe that in a lot more detail. But it takes a lot more to build a CL3 facility. So we told them we don't have a CL3 facility, but we are designing a new facility, and we can -- we designed that to meet the CL3 requirements if they were willing to contribute to fund that, and they also agreed. So you can call it luck or good planning. I don't know whatever you want to call it. But effectively, we ended up with 90% of our facility funding available from our clients, and we went out to look for a location where do we build this? And our facility manager came to be and say, "What about Canary Wharf?" And I said, we're not the bank. Why would we go to Canary Wharf? But then we met with the Canary Wharf Group, and they showed us their ambitions to build the next life sciences hub in this area, and they wanted hVIVO to be kind of play a key role in that. And after talking to them and after some friendly negotiations, they were -- they effectively gave us a deal that was too good to refuse, and we began to fit out a facility here. And I know you weren't going to believe this, I'm sure most of you've done some extensions at [indiscernible] and so on, but we finished this project on time and on budget, which is amazing. Within 8 months, we designed it, we planned it, we costed it, we built it, we commissioned it and so fully function already, except for the CL3 lab, which will be ready in the coming months. At this peak times, we had 185 workers on this facility. We used over 1,000 kilometers of cabling. There's 1,000 different monitors on the 2 floors to track temperature, pressure, forth and so on. So it's a very sophisticated fit-for-purpose facility that doesn't exist -- of this size, doesn't exist anywhere in the world. We also have a BSL-3 lab, which means that we can handle and manage the more contagious pathogens. So it's really an amazing facility for us to be able to build our foundation and for the next step of our growth. ESG also remains a key component for us, and I'm really pleased that Canary Wharf Group also hold that really high in their kind of priorities. And for us, we want to make sure that we are compliant with our ESG commitment. Two years ago, we established an ESG group that reports to our Board, and we've set a baseline of parameters, and we are -- we have parameters and KPIs that we measure ourselves again. So things like we recycle heat. So each floor has heat pads that are used to heat the floor. We got recycling. None of the waste from this goes to any landfill. So we keep a track of that. And if you need any more details on that, we will be more than happy to provide it. We are currently going through an ISO 14001 certification, which is basically a certification for you to have environment management systems, and that's something we are looking to have in place by the end of this year. So that's kind of the background of the facility. My colleagues later on will come on and give you a little bit more detail on each of the different types of facilities we have with regards to the labs, the clinical side as well as the recruitment. But I thought I'd take this opportunity to go through some of the top details of our trading update, which we issued as a disclaimer, let me. So this is our first half '24 trading update. We -- I mean -- I think it's an amazing update for us. We did $35.6 million in revenue. That's a 31% increase year-on-year. And we're able to do this by utilizing the 3 facilities that we had opened at the same time during quarter 2 of this year. So we'll be able to inoculate record number of volunteers and basically drive this revenue. And as I'm sure most of you have worked out, the more revenue would drive, the better our margins. So this 24% EBITDA margin we're predicting for the first half of this year, again, an amazing result. And I think that's something we want to drive to continue to build on that. And it's really important that we work -- we won't see the full benefits of this facility until 2025 because that will be the first full year here. So having all the beds on a single floor, I think will make a big difference. So GBP 7 million in cash. Again, a really good achievement. And this is after a GBP 1.4 million dividend payment. The weighted order book is at GBP 71 million. The interest in human challenge trial services continues to be strong. This is slightly lower than end of last year, but we did recognize a large amount of revenue in the first half of this year, okay? We also had a small cancellation which was supposed to go into the second half of the year. But the biggest thing also is that -- another thing is that the timing of the signing, and this is effectively one contract, okay? So that contract was signed before 30th of June, this order book would have been bigger than it currently is. But for me, what gives me confidence is we have a very good strong sales pipeline. Our sales teams are working hard to convert them. And that sometimes takes longer than you would want. But that's our goal to continue to build our sales pipeline and we're adding new challenging agent to our portfolio to continue to build on that. The 28 -- by 2028, our target is GBP 100 million. Majority of that will be driven by organic growth, but we do anticipate M&A activity before then. And we've estimated around 10% to 15% of that revenue coming from M&A assets. So we are currently in the search mode for M&A. And I've spoken openly about this before. We are the only real challenge trial CRO in the world. So for us to acquire somebody, we have to be a little bit more imaginative, but we will wait and do the right thing, rather rush into something just for the sake of doing an M&A. Quickly going through the agenda. So this is the agenda for today. As you can see, I'm not going to go through each one. But do you have a dot on your batch that should give you an indication of when your tour is, which will take place after the trading update Q&A. So at that point, [ Stephen Pinkerton, our CFO ], will come up and go through a few slide, a bit more color on some of the numbers I've given you, and then we'll have a short Q&A. Following that, you'll be able to go out and visit our lab or get dressed up in a hazmat suit, if you will, and go through our clinic. That's it for me for now. Next, I'd like to introduce you to Alex Mann. Alex has been here -- how many years? 25 years. So he's been here for a long time. It is one of the gurus of the human challenge trial industry. And he's helped develop so many of the models we currently have. His scientific expertise is second to none. And I love you guys to pick hole in his presentation, if we can. Thank you. Alex.

Alexander Mann

executive
#2

Good morning, everyone. Thank you. Thank you for coming here today. And thanks Mo, for the introduction. My name is Alex Mann, I'm Senior Director of Clinical Sciences. So my job really is to work with clients to design their studies so they can get the best out of their products and also to work with the business development team to get those contracts in the first place. So I've been -- as Mo mentioned, I've been here 25 years, and the facility downstairs, which is absolutely wonderful is vastly different from what I came into in 1999, where it was a spin-out from the [ Roland ] Hospital, and we had a few offices and a laboratory -- a couple of laboratories and that was pretty much it. So where we were back then is when we did do -- our first quarantine in 2001, this is a flu characterization study. When we did this, we had to find a quarantine and so we took out -- we went to a hotel and took out a wing of a hotel and built it up over 48 hours into a quarantine unit with all the infection control and everything. So there's a massive enterprise to do that. We only had 12 permanent staff, 15 temporary clinical staff that are working with us. And we would be then camped in for 2 weeks with these volunteers. We wouldn't leave. Our lives were over for 2 weeks. And then we would spent 48 hours making the hotel look like what it was before we went there and give it back to the hotel. So that was a massive logistical enterprise, whereas now we have a fixed facility or we had another facility before this, but once you have your own facility with everything under one roof, it's so much easier. We even built a laboratory in the actual car park as well just so we could get the viruses on the cells quickly. So that was where we came from in 2001 when we started doing challenge studies at hVIVO, formerly Retroscreen. And the majority since then, we probably completed about 80 projects -- up to about 8 projects. And by the end of this summer, inoculated around about 5,000. So most of them have been with RSV and influenzas. We've also done, as you can see here, SARS and malaria and rhinovirus as well. But about half have been RSV and about half flu, a little over 2,000 flu. So flu since 2001 has remained an unmet medical need. Despite having vaccines, despite having antivirals, seasonal flu still causes significant morbidity and mortality. So generating better vaccines or more improved vaccines as well as dealing with viral resistance in some of -- with some of these drugs, so developing new drugs has been very important. So as part of that, over the years, we have tried to update our flu viruses and flu remains a significant problem. And as you'll see, not only seasonal flu, but also pandemic flu, is a potential concern. So we need to develop these new flu viruses to compensate for that. And we have done so, we've generated several new flu viruses to meet clients' needs. The majority of our new viruses that we manufacture and then characterize and use for clients, specifically contracts for clients. So it's to meet their particular needs. So there's been quite a few of those that I mentioned here that have been contracted with clients to produce. Others, we have produced a couple of our own in order to build those service offering, and we've also expanded to -- we had about 10, we've manufactured about 10 new viruses over the last few years, the ones that are most recent in green there. So one of the key things is, is the facility downstairs not only increased, it helps us increase the volume of volunteers that we can inoculate per year, it sounds a really weird thing to say, but it does increase significantly how many we can inoculate compared to years and years ago. But it also, we've designed it in such a way that we can actually have other services. So as Mo mentioned earlier on, one of the key things was to make sure that we had a BSL-3 facility. So this is a high containment facility with state-of-the-art air flow as well as other elements. So this allows us both from the quarantine as well as the laboratory side to do SARS studies and other BSL-3 pathogen studies. Previously, that was more difficult, and we had to use other facilities. So that's one thing that's been built into this. But in addition, we've also looked to expand other services but through having this new facility, one of which is being able to do bacterial challenge studies and having laboratories to support it and then also, quite importantly, actually, and linked back to the pandemic preparedness is really supporting clients and their products for their indications. So a lot of time, you take a vaccine or a drug to actually just treat yourself and make sure you don't have that severe disease or you are resolving that disease quicker. But there's also another element that's come into play a bit more recently, which is transmission blocking. So can I not only treat someone, but also stop them from producing as many virus particles and therefore, infect less people. So we've built a facility with specific compartmentalization of the air flows to allow us to do these transmission studies. So what that means is we're going to inoculate someone and get some of the virus. And then we put them into contact with, say, 5 other people that haven't been given the virus. And they will transmit that virus to them in our facility. And the airflows protect our staff as well as the other volunteers from any contamination. So what we can do is we can either vaccinate or treat those people and see how much effect that vaccine or the treatment has on transmission blocking. So that's another really important new service offering we have. Just quickly to take a step back to actually say what sort of data do we actually produce in those studies? We've got a couple of examples here from RSV on the left and flu on the right. So these are 2 antiviral studies. And they sort of exemplify a few of the endpoints that we usually include in our studies. So on the left, you've got virology. So this is the amount of virus that the people are producing. So the green line is people who haven't been given the drug. They've been given the placebo. They're producing a very large viral curve there in green and then the blue and red are those that have been treated with the drug after they've had a confirmed infection. So completely smashing down the virus, working exceptionally well, and that was an RSV drug. On the right, there's another type of endpoint, which are the symptom-based endpoints that we developed because obviously, you want to know about disease. And this one really here is about the duration of disease. So how long do you have your disease? And here, again, this is a flu drug that was given about 24 hours after inoculation. And you see the red line, which is a much shorter duration of symptoms than the blue line there, blue-dotted line, because there are just a couple of the end points that we use and they produce extremely clean data that clients can make their decisions on. And so that links back to why on earth do clients do these studies with us in the first place. So what's the point? So really, there's a couple of elements. One I just mentioned in terms of the data, it's exceptionally clean. In a quarantine, you don't have the issue of contaminations or community-acquired infections. We're very careful about making sure that people don't bring that into the units. And then they're in their own rooms. So even in the unlikely event it does happen, they're contained and it doesn't spread throughout the unit. So that's one element. It's very clean data. But actually, one of the elements are because it's clean, they can make decisions quite easily on which dose do they want to go forward with into the field studies? What's the safety like, what's the efficacy like. It helps them also optimize they can choose which dose they want to take forward to the field studies and also either whether it works or it doesn't work, it helps them to derisk going on into a later phase. So if it doesn't work, it's maybe less likely to work in a field study if it hasn't worked in a challenge study on average. So it helps to derisk those programs. And it does so for quite a relatively small cost compared to those field studies. So you can do them in small subject numbers, where instead of thousands, you're doing tens or hundreds, much quicker, you're less impacted by seasonal trends. So you could -- again, this is a weird way to say it, you could have a bad flu year where you don't get much flu that year. If that can be a problem for people -- vaccine manufacturers, for example, you may have to extend your trial in extra 6 months, and extra 6 months to get on to the market can be a significant fund issue. So these studies are done very quickly, we can do them all way through the year. No seasonal impacts whatsoever. But key elements are a lot of the biotechs come to us, less trying to get, say, an uplift or to get attraction of further investment. So either they're there -- excuse me, either pharmaceutical industries are interested in taking them on board or that product on board or they can get the second round of funding that they need it. So it's really useful to succeed very quickly or fail quickly. So you can pick which product you want to take forward. If you've got 4 products in flu, you can say, okay, this one didn't work, this one work better, so I'll take that one forward. Alternatively, you could tie them all in a field study, which will cost a fortune. So all of these elements come together, you'll probably hear a bit later on also other aspects where other aspects of what clients actually are attracted to challenge models, one of which is speeding up the development pathway, and that can sometimes be facilitated by getting efficacy results from our challenge trials, which allow them to talk with the regulators and get fast track and breakthrough status. So that may shorten the back end of their approvals and again, save money overall. So these are just a few elements I just want to share with you. Thank you.

Yamin Khan

executive
#3

Thank you, Alex. So next, we have a veteran of the industry. Hopefully, you don't mind me calling you a veteran of the industry. Stephen qualified from the University of Oxford. He worked in medicine and then he spent 30 years in the pharma industry across a number of companies. There's a long list of who's who [indiscernible] Biosciences, [indiscernible] MSD, Pfizer, he has been involved with all sorts of clinical development method, including human challenge trial. Stephen is currently a consultant with Hurst Grange Associates and here to talk about human challenge trial. Thank you, Stephen.

Stephen Lockhart

attendee
#4

So he's told you all this. I've been around a long time, a lot of it in the vaccine industry in clinical development with a number of different companies and have worked at all stages of development and using all sorts of methods, including challenge studies. So I see that place. So I'm going to say why would a company want to do a challenge study? Well, of course, we in Canary Wharf is all about the money. And we know that vaccine development, like any pharmaceutical development is very expensive, and it's quite long. And of course, no CEO likes being told they have to wait 5 years for the results. Just put the money in. And what the world sees from outside is you announced a program and you kick it off. And a few years down the line, there will be a big announcement, hopefully a positive one, possibly, of course, a failure. And it's all -- I think it's a lot of -- a bit of a black box for people to some extent from outside. But what you see from inside the company or the organization is gate, gate, gate, gate, more and more information needed to justify moving forward. And what you're getting to move it forward is money. And it doesn't matter whether you're inside a big company where you've got to allocate internal resources and compete with all sorts of other exciting therapeutic areas, whether you're a biotech and you're looking to just keep up to the next time you're going to run out of cash. And what's worse is not only you have these gates, they get bigger and bigger as you move along. So it gets quite hairy. Now obviously, there are many other things in investment decisions, but I'm thinking about the information about how the product is going to work. And you can see that there's a gradient of course, from very simple in laboratory In vitro methods to tell you what the vaccine is looking like, all the way up through animal studies. Human immunology may be very important. And then ultimately, the gold standard really for getting onto the market is an efficacy study. What does the vaccine do in the target population for the disease it's indicated for? And the cost and the confidence in the results moves up as you go through this gradation of different methods. And human challenge models in my opinion, I don't if this works that way, fits underneath the efficacy study. You don't necessarily know that it's going to be exactly like that. Because it may be -- may be looking at a volunteer population rather than the actual target population and so on. And it's a slightly unusual situation to be artificially given an infection, that may affect the results. Nonetheless, the human challenge model gives you a lot more confidence than many of these other stages of development. And that will really help decide investment, and particularly investment before going in to a very expensive, very demanding efficacy study that would take you several years to get results. So ideally, that's the place you want to fit this is early in development. When you -- it's not cheap compared to some of the earlier methods, but it's still a few million compared to the tens or hundreds of millions for an efficacy study. Within -- I think it's already been mentioned by Alex, within a challenge study, there are lots of different endpoints. So it's not a simple yes or no answer, which is important because if it was yes or no, if it's a no, what do you do with it. Actually, there's a lot of data in there that gives you an idea whether something, even if you don't get a statistically significant top line result, you can say, is it doing -- has it got something going on in there, and you can pick it out and try and understand how it's working. And I'm not going to go through all the acronyms. I hate acronyms, I don't know why I've got them in a slide really. Now I'm going to give you an example somewhere where our challenge model could be incredibly useful. And I know there's a lot of interest, flu vaccines. So the current flu vaccines all work largely by getting an immune response to the hemagglutinin antigen. There's another one in [indiscernible], it's mostly hemagglutinin. And so if we have a new vaccine that's maybe a new technology, but it's based on getting a response to the hemagglutinin antigen, we've actually got pretty good methods for understanding whether the immune response we're seeing to this new vaccine is going to be useful in the vaccine. But the Holy Grail at the moment is a universal vaccine, a vaccine that's going to work against all flu strains because the hemagglutinin changes over the years, it changes, it evolves. Sometimes there's a big shift to go to a completely new strain like in 2009. But we know about the antibody response to that. But for a universal vaccine that's using a different approach that will work against all the influenza A and possibly even influenza B and pandemics. We can't use those responses. We don't know what they mean. And this is a place where actually showing an effect in a controlled human infection model will give you real confidence to go into spending probably hundreds of millions of dollars in several years doing an efficacy study in the real world. There are regulatory benefits. I think part of the reason they've got me up here is because the benefits of doing a challenge model is not plain and simple. Each time you look at a particular pathogen, particular vaccine, there were slightly different pros and cons. So I want to be clear about that. Often, people think, well, maybe if you get a positive efficacy result in a challenge, that will help you get approval on the market. Actually, that's not always the case, but it can help you from a regulatory perspective. For example, with the RSV model, I know that several studies have actually been used by manufacturers to get FDA breakthrough status, which gives you certain advantages and speed of moving forward through the regulatory process to get the eventual approval. It may help you by 6 months to a year. But of course, as you all know, 6 months to a year of getting ahead of your competitors and getting actually sales coming through the door where you've spent probably a decade spending money on development is quite a positive achievement. So it's been useful in these different situations. You can use -- I'm used to using challenge models in vaccines, and that probably is the major area of value, I think. But they're also useful in certain other areas. In fact, you saw earlier, Alex showed you, I think Alex showed you a result on a therapeutic. And particularly for viruses, but I think there are many other areas. Steve is going to talk about, pneumococcus [indiscernible] talk about pneumococcus mentioning. There, there's vaccines, but there is also interest in antimicrobial resistance and different bacterial infections, so people are developing new models to say, can you actually get a quick readout on antibiotics as well as the antivirals. They may be useful in diagnostic development and diagnostics are critically important in getting people the right treatment and preventing microbial resistance. And often, what you can do with a diagnostic is actually nest inside a vaccine or a therapeutic challenge study, so you can actually get multiple things from the same. I was involved with a challenge model for a viral vaccine where we're also looking at the use of voice methods for diagnosis. I don't know if that went anywhere, but we were able to nest the study within another study. And finally, I wouldn't rule out the fact that there's a lot of basic biology to be learned from challenge models and academic units, of course, many of them have their own challenge studies, which are important. And I think there has been at least one major study done by hVIVO, which was funded by a major research organization. So many different areas, this could be used. Thank you very much.

Yamin Khan

executive
#5

So next, we have a fireside chat, let's say. So I'd like to invite Alex and Stephen Lockhart to the panel. We also have a new speaker for us -- channel -- Professor Stephen Gordon. If you guys want to sit there, well -- Alex and Stephen. So Stephen is conducted clinical and translational research over the last 30 years in the U.K. and in Africa, and he's -- he has a major expertise in pneumococcal challenge models, but he's also worked across many organizations. And one of the key things he has done is that the creative project which is a GBP 10 million project aiming at changing clinical research in Africa. He's now the Director of Experimental Medicine at Infection Innovation Consortium, iiCON, near Liverpool. So I really want to -- I know this is not your area expertise, but I'm sure all of you want to know about human challenge trials and what is the future for human challenge trial with regards to the industry. So we have somebody very biased from hVIVO who thinks challenge trials are the only way forward. And then we have somebody from academia, very neutral, looking to see how the academic challenge models can go into helping pharmaceutical companies to develop drugs on a commercial basis. Then of course, we've got a veteran of the industry. So I'd like to open this up to everybody. We have a microphone roaming around. So if you put your hand up, please and introduce yourself and say where you're from and ask the question.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#6

It's [ Robin Davison ]. I would like to ask if you could basically comment on how you can adapt challenge studies to mimic the sort of pathology in the field. I mean if you're thinking of -- I suppose there's a couple of things. I think like post exposure therapies where you might see the patient when their symptoms are at maximum level, whereas obviously in the setting you have here, you're infecting them. And then you might have to sort of adapt for that thing. But also it also occurred to me that for ones like RSV, most people who have been infected with RSV as a child and obviously, the market is sort of neonatal infants, isn't it? And how do you translate the information you find the data from the studies you conduct into the setting where it's obviously by necessity different in the field?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#7

I'm glad you asked it because it's kind of the thing in the room is it's testing healthy young adults is one thing, but where you are in the field as the other. So my background, as I said, of a pneumococcal challenge model in Liverpool for a decade, and then I went to Malawi and I did the same in Malawi for the last 8 years. But in answer to your question, first of all, I want to take it in 2 bits, if you wouldn't mind: the first is the relevance of the exposed person. And the second is which you mentioned is the severity of the disease or the clinical stage of the disease. So on the people, I think ethically and in terms of community acceptability, you have to start with the safest possible model you can do and then you creep towards those at higher risk. So in Liverpool, the people at most high risk of pneumococcal disease are elderly. So having started with young adults, we slowly worked up to our older volunteers are now over 80 years of age and people with lung disease. So again, we work towards people who had mild asthma or chronic asthma. Yes. So you can do it by stages. In Malawi, the people who are most at risk of pneumococcal disease are people living with HIV. And so we've just finished a human challenge study completely safely with great community acceptability and huge support in people living with HIV. So the answer to your question is it can be done, but not as your first challenge. You start with your safest and then work towards the risk groups. I don't think there was a workshop in Kenya last year. I don't think there is any wish in the community to move to children because of the issue of consent. I don't think you'll see a child human challenge. I mean you might be able to work with it, but there was no appetite in the scientific community to take that forward. And then in terms of your question about the point in the disease or the duration, you can run a human challenge model for as long as it's safe and provided it's not severe. So we're working now with the idea of what a TB challenge would look like. Obviously, we don't want people to have frank pulmonary TB, but people could have a chronic skin lesion and that's been done in Leishmania, which is another bug that lives in the skin for a long time. So I think as with the first answer, you start with the safest, simplest possible model and then you work towards the thing that is closer to the question you asked. So if you want to keep people in incubation for longer, you can, you can let the disease run longer. I hope that has helped.

Yamin Khan

executive
#8

Anybody else have any comments on that? Okay.

James Gerlis

analyst
#9

James Gerlis from Tellworth. With regard to the acceptability of human challenge trial and from both an industry and a regulatory perspective, is the -- to see a real step change in demand? Is the end game acceptability of the result from an efficacy perspective in itself? Or is it -- is there a big enough opportunity for the, I suppose, the methods from an ancillary or a supportive perspective like the breakthrough status you mentioned, Stephen.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#10

Yes. I think as Steve was saying, the other Steve was saying, it's about the population that you're in. So there has been a situation where a cholera vaccine was studied in healthy volunteers, and that was considered relevant to travelers because having a drop of cholera on your tongue or in throat in a model is not dissimilar to how a traveler who has not been pre-exposed to cholera might actually look getting the real disease. Quite different, for example, than cholera in areas where it's endemic where the pre-exposure is going to be really very important. And so I think the cases where it's going to be useful on its own for registration are actually quite limited. I think it's mostly useful for decision-making as you move through development. Does that help? Steve?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#11

Did you want to speak on this one? Just to add, we're conducting a study at the moment called ACHIMA, Advanced CHIM Acceptability, where we're with groups and with individuals exploring what is the limit. And we're particularly asking the community of people living with HIV and the community of people exposed to TB about what would be acceptable and what would be the caveat. So I think it's important to explore with the community ahead of time. Exactly as you say, does the end justify the means or does the process itself have to have -- and the answer is both when you're in conversation with people.

Alexander Mann

executive
#12

And just on the regulatory acceptance as well, it's -- I guess, there's different layers. So one is in terms of for licensor. That's a very specific, I just mentioned. But also the other thing is that even if you're getting data to the FDA, for example, getting this data and they're accepting it for breakthrough status or fast track status, they do like the data, they love the data. It's just any specific situations where they like it for the licensor rather than supportive data to support development.

Yamin Khan

executive
#13

So in the land of acronyms, so CHIM, for those of you who don't know is challenge human infection model -- controlled, sorry -- controlled human infection model. So we love our acronyms as Steve said.

Max Herrmann

analyst
#14

It's Max Herrmann from Stifel. Just a question on perhaps beyond the antivirals and more into the sort of infectious disease models that obviously, most talked about, trying to developing things like dengue-fever and other sort of mosquito-borne diseases. Kind of interested in how you envisage those studies get being developed for a challenge study? And then secondly, just in terms of where you each of you would see the most need for additional challenge studies in different infectious diseases beyond the ones that...

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#15

That's 2 questions, mosquitoes and other infectious uses. I don't know if you want to have a go? So , the world is warming up and so there's going to be dengue [indiscernible], I would imagine within some years or at least the conditions where it could occur. There's no question that the range of mosquito-transmitted disease will expand. There's already a phenomenon called runway malaria, where mosquito traveling airplanes, but it's quite rare. But the mosquito is going to get there under their own steam. So I think there will be a role for trying to model those diseases. It brings up the same question. It's hugely different, whether you travel to an area as a tourist or whether you grew up with that disease, entirely different studies. So the malaria study is well -- the malaria model is well established and works well and is being rolled out in Oxford and London, and is now being rolled out in Kenya to try and understand what the 2 populations do different. In terms of the scope of the study, they're not that difficult to do. In a facility like this, it will be pretty straightforward to have an insect room. And you, infect, the insect and then there's something about the size of a gum and watch that you put on a volunteer's wrist, and you can just directly observe through the lid, how many bites they get. The advantage of that model is you can squash the bug afterwards. So you know whether the bug was infected. You can monitor the volunteer very closely. So logistically, that's not a difficult model to do. Epidemiologically, I think it's an important piece of work that can be done. And so there are several centers in the U.K. already -- I'm going to show it for academia because otherwise -- I think the discovery has to happen out there in academia. And then when you have something that's got legacy and you want to run it at scale in a reproducible way, then you step into a facility like this. So [indiscernible] definitely. Other diseases, I think we're going to talk about antimicrobial resistance, it's where it's going. It's diseases that have antimicrobial resistance pose a global threat. It doesn't matter where they emerge in the world, they're going to land up here on airplanes.

Alexander Mann

executive
#16

Yes. And with hVIVO, we're very happy to collaborate with academics as well. So you saw, I think, probably dengue on the actual slide earlier on. So that is a collaboration with somebody who's already doing dengue in the U.S. They have restrictions on how quickly they can -- I mean the recruitment is usually a bit more difficult in that setting because well, it's a lot more difficult because as you'll hear later on, it's a different thing when it's done at commercial scale. But also the other thing is that at certain times of the year, they can't do the studies. Over here, we don't have the mosquitoes that transmit it, which -- but in addition to that, we also put in layers and layers and layers of containment to avoid any potential transmission outside the unit. So yes, that's definitely a collaboration with someone who's already done those dengue studies in the past, so...

Yamin Khan

executive
#17

It looks like we have our first volunteer in Max for our next dengue study. And just so you know, we need a CL3 level facility to run dengue trials. We have that. And we also have to have your lab comply with what's called Schedule 5 standards, which is basically the Met police coming in and giving approval, the [ anti-terrorist ] arm of Met police is coming and giving you approval that, yes, the facility that you have is safe and secure enough for you to be able to store and process dengue virus. And they were actually here this morning before you guys arrive, reviewing our CL3 lab. So we are planning the facilities to be ready for a potential dengue trial here.

Melwin Mehta

analyst
#18

Melwin Mehta from Sterling Investments. I probably have 2 questions for Professor Stephen and Mr. Lockhart as well. But probably both of you can answer both the questions. I'll go one by one. hVIVO has had the success of receiving FDA approvals already under these challenges studies. How have the regulators now kind of open to the idea, encouraging whether in Europe or U.S. or Australia to this whole concept of challenge studies?

Stephen Lockhart

attendee
#19

I'm not sure I fully understood the question. I mean the regulators are very interested in these as methods for understanding what vaccines and therapeutics are actually doing. And like us, interested in the fact that you may move things on faster if you get a useful result. So we find them all extremely interested. They're regulators. So we have to be -- we have to -- we're not looking for a pushover in a regulator. What you're looking for in a regulator really is an intelligent reflection on what the risks and benefits are of moving forward. And obviously, we think very hard about that as well. So you have to take that all into account. But yes, no, very positive. Did I get your question?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#20

Yes. Yes. So I can just add something that's not being said, I think probably because of the modesty of some of the presenters is that the U.K. is a world leader in this and it's a mile ahead of the U.S.A. And part of the reason for that is that in the U.S.A., the regulation of a human challenge study, the infection itself is regarded as a drug, and that's not very helpful because a bug is not a drug. And so the U.K. actually leads the -- I think it says that leads the global stage in this style of study. So when your question was put, what do the FDA think of it? That's a particularly interesting group because the EMA, European Medicines Agency and the FDA do not see eye to eye necessarily. So those of us in the game have been at several meetings where the different global regulators are up on the stage and asked exactly if we presented you with our data for whatever disease it is. how would you handle it. So they're getting near to the same place, I think, in vaccine regulation, but they're no one here to the same place in allowing the studies. So Europe is going to continue to lead on the studies and the vaccine regulators are going to use the data similarly, which is exactly as Stephen said, it's a step towards the efficacy trial.

Stephen Lockhart

attendee
#21

Can I add one thing there. Within Europe, I mean, obviously, the U.K. is outside the EMA, great shame, but it is. But the regulation of clinical trials is a national competence. So actually, you find kind of big differences between what's done in different countries, probably your biggest competitor in Europe is probably in Belgium, isn't it? And likewise, their regulators. And I guess it's partly necessity. If you've got people coming to you with these studies, you have to develop expertise. And so yes, the MHRA is particularly knowledgeable. I wouldn't run the FDA down too much. I mean, they've got a lot of very clever people and they understand -- they understand what's going on, and they do see the value. But I do think, yes, they're slower to get things going really in the U.S. in general than they are in the U.K.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#22

Which is sad for them because a lot of the history of cholera and shigella and other challenge models came from the States, and they kind of lost the plot on the way.

Melwin Mehta

analyst
#23

And if I may say, in terms of tropical diseases, are you seeing the UN getting involved with funded studies, other corporates kind of seeing that opportunity, especially a whole range? I mean you already mentioned a few African countries, but how can this be kind of used in those environments?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#24

So my career has all been in spanning Europe and Africa and trying to work out how the health benefit that we enjoy in Europe can impact in populations in Africa. But in a contemporary way, we're now also trying to think, well, how can Africa play its role in health impact for the world or India or Brazil or whatever. So it's this business about what's the difference between an endemically exposed population and can we learn something from that population that will help us either protect our tourists or our forces or our visitors or whoever. So thinking as a global village for health is one way. In answer to your question, are people investing in this. Wellcome Trust are investing a huge amount, the last grant was GBP 30 million to the Malawi unit. Outside Wellcome, NIH have invested a large amount through their Walter Reed Institute. I'm struggling to think who else is really invested -- ungratefully, I forgot my first hundred thousand dollars, okay. rescued me from academic obscurity. Yes. So Gates. Gates is very invested in this space. Wellcome, MRC a bit, NIH a lot. Yes.

Melwin Mehta

analyst
#25

And what about the J&Js, Pfizers of the world? Are they looking at Africa in a new way now?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#26

Yes, because some of the vaccines, particularly the [indiscernible] the pneumococcal vaccine and we have a problem with serotype 3. We have a particular problem with AMR, serotype 3 in Africa, and so they're looking at ways to test the vaccine by doing it in this hopping method, do it first in Europe and then hop to Africa look at the similarities, look at the differences and see what we can learn.

Julie Simmonds

analyst
#27

Julie Simmonds, Panmure Liberum. I'm just interested in what you're talking about transmission studies as a use of the facilities? I'm just wondering about how much they're currently and how?

Alexander Mann

executive
#28

So yes, that's a good question. So in terms of transmission studies, so we have performed some transmission studies in the past. They are what they're quite difficult to do -- as much as we all get infections, flu, rhinovirus, common cold, RSV during the winter. When you put it into a laboratory setting, it can be quite difficult to transmit, but you can do it. And so we have done that a bit in the past. The unit we specifically got it designed for that. It's not commonly done, I think partly because it is a difficult thing to do, but it is being done more and more in other indications well. But flu, so the main thing here is that we've designed the facility. So it's more -- we've got a greater chance of being able to transmit and then combined with our newer viruses, which -- some of our more recent flu viruses are really, again, this is we had said, they're really good at giving disease. I mean they give a very high rate of febrile illness, fever, about 50%, 60% of people inoculate, which is really high. So in those types of situations where people are getting really strong disease, we're hoping that they're more likely to transmit to others as well. So the combination of 2, the facility and the people.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#29

Just a comment on the same question. I'm on the safety board for the Whooping Cough [indiscernible] study, and there's been a substudy done of all the people who share a bedroom with the ones who are inoculated and these there has never been a transmission event. In our pneumococcal studies, we've also studied the household members and the bedroom sharing partner of inoculated people, and there's never been a transmission event. So the viruses are quite different and the other diseases despite our fear of these diseases, it's actually quite hard to demonstrate transmission.

Alexander Mann

executive
#30

And SARS itself. So when we did the SARS study, we found huge -- I mean, the types of the virus. This is -- these are people that really hadn't seen the virus up to that point. They hadn't been vaccinated. It's before vaccinations being going through the whole population in the U.K. And also, they had no evidence of immune -- they were susceptible based on their immune system to the virus. So we inoculated 36, the mating got infected and some of them had huge viral loads, really high viral types in the nose and throat. And then we found that we're looking at sampling the air, the surfaces and also from breathing into mask, they're also transmitting a huge amount of particles, some more than others. So you may have people that are super spreaders either due to behavior or due to the combination of behavior and the amount of virus. So yes, I think SARS is going to be an interesting one to look at as well for transmission blocking as well as flu and may potentially some other...

Yamin Khan

executive
#31

I think the COVID pandemic was a casing point, right? So you had this amazing vaccines which were -- I mean, super effective, to be honest, and took a very short time to get to market. But they don't stop you from becoming infected, right? So not only were infected, but you're also transmitting that virus to potentially somebody more susceptible to disease. And the goal with the new generation of vaccines that we are seeing from clients is mucosal vaccine where you either oral or inhale and the goal for them is to reduce transmission rates, okay? Because I mean just imagine if you had a mucosal vaccine during the pandemic, I don't think you will need a lockdown. Okay? I'm not sure of lockdown, right? So that's the goal for the next year and vaccine. We talked to a number of clients who are interested in doing challenge trials with mucosal vaccines and we think that if we're able to get a transmission model to work, which, by the way, is a very difficult thing to do, this hasn't been done, that's a huge benefit for our company to go to the different health care providers and say, not only do we reduce infectivity, but we would prevent or reduce transmission, okay? I think that's a huge advantage for a new [indiscernible] that comes to the market. So that's why we've designed this facility to cater for such events. I mean the easy one to do, to be honest, it would be norovirus, right? Because norovirus is very easy to spread, just have a buffet -- right? So that would most [indiscernible] but there are ways of trying to do transmission that is across different indications.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

It's Robin, again. I just wondered if I could sort of steal the debate a little bit towards the ethical boundaries and how about they feature in the -- perhaps the interaction with your clients. So I'm just wondering whether you get asked to do something that you think, well, that's something I'm not sure we want to do or the regulators won't might because the regulators also have an input here or whether most often, you're trying to persuade your clients to do something, which they themselves might feel is pushing the boundaries of what might be acceptable ethically And you think you can do it safely, for example?

Yamin Khan

executive
#33

That question for me or the panel?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

For the 3 gentlemen as well, yes, sir.

Stephen Lockhart

attendee
#35

Yes. So I think everyone takes the ethical aspects of this extremely seriously. And for every new pathogen where people are thinking of a new challenge model. I don't like the word challenge. I prefer CHIM because although no one can remember what it stands for. To me, challenge sounds a little bit aggressive, but anyway, but whenever there's a new pathogen, there's a huge amount of discussion and debate amongst public health, academia and industry people about what you can and can't do. I mean, I'll give you an example. I've read some papers recently we've been talking to people about Zika virus. So a lot of clients probably coming to you to speak about, because of the effects that an infection in pregnancy can have, that's why you want a vaccine, but at the same time, that's why people want to take a challenge model extremely seriously and make sure that you absolutely reduce the risk of such an event happening because of the study you're doing. So I think it's taken very seriously. Manufacturers want to be seen to be ethical, don't want to push the limits. Companies like hVIVO, certainly, you don't want to disaster on your hands, that would really be a problem and the academic and public health community likewise, don't want to take it very seriously. So I think there's so much debate. It would be difficult to get anything done that people would disagree with. Steve?

Alexander Mann

executive
#36

No, I do not agree. I mean we very carefully look at all our studies. So we -- for, for example, I think an earlier question was around in the actual population, you want to protect the kids. It does also affect quite significantly older populations with comorbidities, let's say, COPD or other cardiovascular diseases and so on. So we wanted to move into the older population with RSV very carefully, and this was with the pharma group as well. And what we did was we very carefully went into that from 60- to 74-year olds, but were otherwise healthy, they may have some acceptable other diseases that were not chronic and not at a big issue at that time. But the point is we had also a key opinion leader working with us, a geriatrician who's working with us to make sure the inclusion criteria into that trial was very carefully controlled so the risk was mitigated. So -- I think as Stephen Gordon was talking about earlier on was taking steps to take those models a bit further, but within reason to a point where you're not going to do a severe damage or have some debilitating disease for that volunteer, that's really important that we don't do that. So I think.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#37

So completely agree with other speakers but just 2 other comments for context. These studies, human infection studies, controlled human infection models, whatever you call them, are much, much, much safer than Phase I for a new drug. If you dig through the history, the number of adverse events that have occurred is tiny compared to Phase I drug study. So people think it's kind of way out there and risky. It's really safe compared to testing a drug that's never been into humans. So that's just to put it in context. And the second bit is, I don't know if it depends on what newspaper you read, but in Alex's COVID study there was a full page article of a volunteer being interviewed by the newspaper as to why they took part? And they took -- I mean, a lot of you are same as me in the room, my kids were really frustrated in COVID that there was nothing they could do to help. They just want us to lock down. Can we not do something to help. And this interview was all about how proud this volunteer was to have actually been able to step forward in a context where this is a global pandemic, and there's no treatment and I have the courage to step forward to try and bring a vaccine to it. So that's echoed in Malawi. When we went out to ask, would you like to do a TB model. I said, no, you're talking, you're talking about a disease that we're really interested in. Yes, this is terrific. And so our CHIM volunteers want to wear T-shirts that say they've been part of this sort of study. There's a thing about I'm actually doing something useful where before, I didn't think I had anything to offer to this.

Alexander Mann

executive
#38

And then just lastly, these studies are all ethically regulated. So you have to submit to an ethics committee and they have -- you have to defend why this is idea to do that study.

Unknown Executive

executive
#39

So we generally have 3 levels of supervision. There's the ethics panel in Malawi. There's the National Scientific Committee level, there's a sponsor level. And then there's the Liverpool School also. So we have multiple reviews. We've never had a study turn down.

Yamin Khan

executive
#40

By the way, that volunteer that Stephen talked about, he donated his compensation to charity. So he wasn't doing it for money. He was doing purely [indiscernible] reason to help the country to develop the next COVID vaccine.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#41

[indiscernible] from Peel Hunt. So there have been some recent developments in combination vaccines. I think there was a Phase III from Moderna with COVID and influenza. Could you just run us through the mechanisms behind performing a trial for combination vaccines?

Alexander Mann

executive
#42

I can start with that. So combination vaccines, let's just take flu and RSV, just a simple one for 2 seconds because you don't all deal with the BSL-3 for a second. But flu and RSV, if you have a combination, flu and RSV vaccine, you would tend to -- we have looked at it in different ways to see if you could vaccinate someone with that combined vaccination -- vaccine, then challenge them with 1 virus, then challenge them with the other one later on. There's pros of that, which is the same people and you really looking at those people, how they've developed in their immunity. The downside is when you -- in order to get a good model, you need to first screen all your population to make sure that they're susceptible to that virus. If you're now checking that susceptible to 2 viruses, you've now whittled down your number of volunteers to a much smaller number. So actually, sometimes you don't win by doing that. Instead, it's sometimes better to do different arms of challenge with different viruses. So you'll just do a simple study design, not a repeat challenge, but it's perfectly feasible to do those type of -- the COVID flu one well.

James Gerlis

analyst
#43

James from Tellworth, again. Just in terms of characterizing the rise in demand for human challenge trials from an academic and an industry perspective. Is how much of a -- does it feel like an inflection point at the moment or maybe post pandemic? And if so, is -- why do you think that might be? And equally, have there ever been forced on in terms of when there might have been periods of excitement in the past that haven't quite followed through in a change in trajectory of demand?

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#44

I think 20 years ago, we were faced with a lot of hostility. I think largely that has gone away. People are reassured by the safety and by the intention of the scientific community. So the sort of -- if you like, the suspicion has gone away, you must have been exposed to this as well. I think suspicion has gone away. Are we at an inflection? I think we're at a point of serious consideration. That slide you showed where does it fit in the pathway, but that's becoming much more closely defined.

Alexander Mann

executive
#45

Yes. So Yes. I was think of it from slightly different areas as well. So in the U.S., I think flu challenges stalled for a little while as well. And so we were doing flu challenges in the early years and ethics regulators are very supportive. There are proof-of-concept studies. They weren't for licensor. These were supportive to help people make decisions about their platform. And so we didn't -- from that perspective, we didn't see much resistance there. But in terms of more generally more acceptance among the community, so from regulatory, just generally more acceptance. 100%, it's changing. It's definitely an inflection. And I think a lot of the efforts from Wellcome and others to push the challenge models as well their value-add and the safety profile that we've shown with the challenge agents, I think is definitely helping as well.

Stephen Lockhart

attendee
#46

So I think the history goes back quite a long way because regulation, the way we do clinical trials has evolved a lot in the last 40 or 50 years. And I think what's happening with controlled human infection, not also challenge studies is kind of following on from that. So clinical trials now, ethics committees are absolutely required and do everything to the book. We're very careful about the risk well, if you don't know that there's yet a benefit to a particular product, I know you have to worry about its risk. You're trying to show the benefit. So those things are all taken extremely seriously now compared to the way they were. I would say, just before I joined the industry, these things were all still evolving. GCP and so on was kind of new. And so challenge studies have benefited from that newer way of thinking, let's say, newer to me at my age, but -- and -- but the U.S. had a history with challenge models being done in incarcerated prisoners. I mean it was still voluntary, but it was a horrible situation. And that really brought the whole thing into disreputes. And there are also the issues in the U.S. with untreated syphilis infections and so on in the past that really put the breaks on one of his thinking. And I think in Europe -- sorry, in -- yes, pretty much in Europe, obviously, since forget the war. But since then, things have been taken differently from the way that evolved in the U.S. and that's perhaps why we've got an advantage of the U.S. now because they had that history that was so negative about infectious experiments.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#47

But there's also a thing that delay in getting a product to license kills products. So it killed the vaccine industry completely, and it may kill the antibiotic industry yet. I mean unless there's a way of getting through the delays that you referred to in your talk, there aren't going to be new products. And so this offers an alternative to a 5-year 50,000 people clinical trial. So it's kind of, I think, people are testing how bright is this light.

Alexander Mann

executive
#48

And the more products that get to market that have been through the challenge model in whatever indication, I think that will also give momentum to it I think that definitely help.

Yamin Khan

executive
#49

Great. I think that was really interesting, really informative session. So I'd like to thank Steve and Steve and Alex for [indiscernible] . To my surprise, we're on time. So a punch. Very good guys. Thank you very much. So we'll now take a 15-minute break. Following that, some of my colleagues will go through some of the key aspects and the features of this wonderful facility. So if you could -- I could ask all of you to reconvene at 11:40, that would be great. Thank you. [Break]

Yamin Khan

executive
#50

All right. Guys, thank you very much for coming back so promptly. I really appreciate it. So we have a full session in the next -- what an hour or so, we'll go through some of the features of the facilities. So we'll have different department heads going through their own areas. So the first I would like to invite Melanie Smyth, the happiest person in the company. She's been here for a couple of years and she manages our clinical site, both this one here downstairs, the quarantine facility as well as the Plumbers Row screening facility and the one in Manchester. And she got extensive experience in nursing as well as in a private health care and for those of you who are going to the tour later on at the quarantine facility, you'll meet her again because she will be hosting that so. Mel come onboard.

Melanie Smyth

executive
#51

As Mo said, I'm Mel and I run clinical operations here at hVIVO. So I look after the screening facilities, as you said, London and Manchester, and also our fantastic custom-built unit, which hopefully you'll come into later on. I've just got a few slides for you today. I'm going to give you a brief overview of the floor plan of the unit, just show you the roughly out. I'm then going to talk about some of the changes, which a couple of my colleagues have alluded to that allow us to handle the Group 3 pathogens. And then I'm going to talk about some of the operational improvements we've seen since we've moved into the new build. The first thing is the floor plan. I've put a little key here just to help with these. The easiest way to think of the unit when you're looking at it visually is almost like 2 Cs. So the top C is rooms 1 to 25, and then around the bottom there are 26 to 50. There are 36 outside rooms and 14 internal rooms. The corridors for anyone that's visited our previous sites, the space is a huge difference. The corridors are just under a meter larger than our previous facility. And each of the individual quarantine rooms is 2 square meters larger than our previous facility. Because the staff and the clinical staff are evolved in the building of this unit, we've actually custom built it to our needs. So some of the things that were sticking points in the previous site, we've earned them out for the new build. So a couple of other things, which I'll show you on the tour, we've built, for example, small [indiscernible] in the walls for the crash trolley, so still accessible, but off the floor of the main operating area. We've also built it with a design that everything's doubled. So again, on the unit and the tours, you'll see it, but we have kind of 2 nurses stations, which you can see there, we have 2 pneumatic shoots for transportation of samples, double ice machine, double tissue weighing machine. And what this does for us is it allows us to be agile with our clients. So we can do 150 bed unit, if you want. We can fill 25. We can do 24. We can run multiple at the same time. Each of the individual rooms is it's on negative pressure. So technically, if you wanted to, although I wouldn't do it, you could have 50 different viruses in this unit safely. The big change for me is a nurse in this unit is the kitchens on our floor, and so simple, but actually, our volunteers get good quality homemade food and it's straight on to the floor. So in our previous build, the kitchen was on the ground floor, the unit was either on the second floor of the same building or across the road, whereas now it literally comes down into the air lock below it and straight into the unit. So these little changes have made it better for the volunteers in the staff. A couple of the things here, which we've alluded to previously, allow us to handle the Group 3 pathogens. So in our previous site, we could only handle, I think, up to group 2. The main changes each of the individual rooms is built to hospital isolation standards. So each of the rooms within the air extraction has a HEPA filter to remove all bacteria and all viruses from the air. The HEPA filter or air handling system, I should say, maintains negative pressure in each room, about minus 15. So this allows when you open the door for a few seconds to maintain negative pressure and maintain containment, the air changes in the room, so the actual entire air of each individual 50-bedroom changes 8 to 10 times an hour. And it also has its own failover system. Because obviously, I guess most people concerned is a breach of containment. The air handling unit if it was to fail, actually has its own failover system and backup fans will kick in to maintain containment of any virus as we handle. And something that Mo mentioned earlier is our backup power. So obviously, again, containment and power, we can't lose it. So this entire building is actually connected to 2 separate power stations via 4 lines. So if for some reason, one of the 4 lines was to disconnect, there's an automatic switch over to one of the other 3 with no loss of power. And then heaven for bed both power stations were to go down, we actually have backup generators on the roof, which again will do the entire building with no effort and no loss of power. Consolidation of our units was quite a big thing for me because it was better optimization and better use of our staff and our resources. So for anyone new who knew what we were like back in early 2023, we had the Whitechapel facility, which was a 3-floor hotel, and it had a 7-bed unit, 6-bed unit, 6-bed unit each on a different floor, very difficult to staff. We then had the QMB facility based in the university and that was a really nice 24-bed unit. But again, across the road from the Whitechapel hotel. So we were constantly using staff, myself and labs to move samples across roads, up on new floors into different labs. Now what we've got is everything on the one site. So you have all -- we actually have more beds. So we had 43 inpatient beds. We now have 50 inpatient beds. So we're actually getting more utilization and more use of the facility with the same headcount. So we've gone from 43 inpatients to 50 and 10 outpatient to 14 outpatient with no change in headcount. And also, again, we're saving 2 members of staff each day that were running high levels of samples. So it's quite a lot of operational efficiency in the move. A couple of things, again as a nurse that we wanted to put in. The 2-way call bill system, it sounds really easy. I think when everyone has a call bill system. You need to remember when you're working with pathogen, you are in full PPE to enter that room. So if you're a volunteer and you bring the buzzer because you want a bottle of water. I would have to put on full PPE, respirator hood, the fill machine just to enter to ask you what you want and then have to come out [indiscernible] the PPE clean up to go and get the water, to come back, to scrub it and to give you it. This actually works like a phone system. So when you initially buzz, I can actually answer say it's me, hi, what do you need? Or can you just grab me a bottle of water? No problem. So we've actually cut our PPE use right down. So our PPE and respirator hood use has dropped. We're also getting faster communications. So actually volunteers aren't waiting for us to scrub in. So they're getting that instant response. Here it's Mel. I'm just about to come in. Can I get you something. And also, it works out better for the staff in general. It's just -- I'm very happy we've got it. And then the second thing, which I guess is a lab and mail thing is the pneumatic shoot, which is a savior. So previously, when I mentioned where we're moving between the 3 floors and the 2 sites, we'd be physically handling samples and appropriate containers to the lab. This could take up to 7 to 8 minutes, if you're doing a PK day or a rapid blood test every 5, 10 minutes on every volunteer, it's doable, but it's very difficult. The pneumatic shoot allows us to move the same samples in 30 seconds. So already, we've got that agility. We can do more samples. We can process better. We're not using the runners to do simple tasks. Participant comfort was also a big thing. So a lot of money and revenue goes into getting these funnels and getting these people to take part and marketing, and it's a huge bundle of work. We want them to when they get in the room and they meet me to stay. We don't want them to go. So what we've done is spend a lot of time and effort on making the rooms bespoke and really homely. So hopefully, you'll see that when you come around. So each room has its own individual air conditioning unit. So within a certain level, you can alter the temperature of your room. We've given everyone a large screen TV and a PS5, so they've got some things to do, keep them occupied. We've also went above and beyond with hospital-grade furniture, but still antibacterial and still fashionable. So basically, it's still complies with infection control, but actually it doesn't feel like you're in a quarantine unit. And I don't know if any of you know this, most NHS mattresses are only designed for about 2 nights of sleep. So you wouldn't want to sleep there for a week to 10 days. Some virus stays 2 weeks. So actually, again, we spent a lot of time and effort finding mattresses that are comfortable, but still comply with emergency situations and also infection control. And again, I alluded to this earlier, but it's a huge part of what we do. If you're in a room and you're getting a test done and you're feeling a little tired and a little mopey, what have you got to look forward to, food? So actually, the food is amazing. We have an app that they use. They can order the breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks whatever they want within reason, and it will be delivered to their door. And I added this is for Sohail. So thank you, Sohail. The thing that I liked about this FluCamp trial, so this is somebody that's done one in Canary Wharf is that there were a lot of improvements since my last trial at QMB. So already the volunteers of the information I mean, it's only been open a few months. It's starting to trickle in that they are seeing the improvement and that means a lot to me. And another thing, which for me is a huge part of my what I do is staff being in retention. Staff is an expensive commodity. We try and keep our bank to perm split roughly 70-30, so we've got that agility. But also, we want to keep our staff highly trained, highly engaged and present. So our -- we've actually worked hard to build this team that we've got. The effort we've put in really to the well first space here. These people are here for 13 hours a day. So we've put a lot of effort into here. You can see this foosball table, there's drinks, coffee, cereals that kind of thing. And you can see the team here, this was the picture they sent me on the day that we opened, which is really nice. I'll keep that forever. But this is a huge part of what we do because actually retention -- poor retention is a profit loss for me. So actually keeping staff happy, engaged and wanting to work for us as a huge part of what I do. That's all for me and feel free to ask me any questions on the tour later. Thank you.

Yamin Khan

executive
#52

You should appreciate Mel. She has delayed have flight to be open because of you guys. So whether in mind. Next talk we have is on our FluCamp. The FluCamp is the brand we use to recruit our patients, which I'm sure everyone knows is the single biggest challenge for all clinical research. Sohail took over our patient recruitment FluCamp around 2 years ago, and he has experience with big pharma biotechs and consumer-directed engagement systems and operations, and he's come here and it's basically overhauled our system of FluCamp. So he's going to tell you more about that.

Sohail Nawaz

attendee
#53

Thank you. Check this morning still as well. So good morning, everyone. So as Mo said, my name is Sohail. And I head up the patient volunteer enrollment team, and I'm going to spend a little bit of time talking to you about FluCamp, which, as Mo touched on, is our recruitment arm within hVIVO. Now it's a brand that's been used to recruit for over 25 years. So it has a lot of awareness recognition, but most importantly, trust with our volunteers that it's a brand that they can recognize with. And I joined the company just over 2 years ago. I was going a very clear mandate. And as our trials grew in size and also grew complexity that we really did need to think about how we recruit volunteers into our trials. And one of the things that Mo failed to mention at the time was, of course, that when you think about the viruses that we utilize, 85% of volunteers will instantly be -- won't be suitable for this trial. So they'll already be ineligible. And then when you add in other layers of medical history reviews because we really are looking for that small grain or sound in this big picture, 99% of volunteers will not be suitable. So we really do need to think about how we can recruit volunteers. And that meant we don't just think -- change things around the edges. We had to fundamentally change our recruitment strategy. So looking at the people we have looking at the processes, but also in terms of technology. And technology plays a big part in everything that we do, and I'll touch on that later on as well. So in terms of the team that we have within FluCamp, the team about 100 individuals that we can call upon to help with them support us all with a single goal of enrolling volunteers into our trials. And the 3 key strategies or stages within a volunteers journey to be enrolled into a trial. First is recruitment. So this is where we do all our marketing, our creatives. We work with digital agencies and partners. We also now work with our volunteers to create our materials. And we have 2 dedicated individuals are marketing manager and a marketing executive that takes care of that. We spend a lot of money on online social media advertising. So we also have an individual who looks after all the comments that come on. I think we all are probably used to social media or looking at reviews, but not many companies invest in actually the comments. And we've taken a quite an active role that actually we were able to support our volunteers and guide them where to sign person where they can get more information. That's the recruitment side. We then look at the enrollment. And one of the first decisions I took when I came on to this company was to bring our contact center back in house. It's such an important part of our journey or the volunteers journey that we wanted to bring that control and that quality back in-house. So every contract sensor is hVIVO, they're all hVIVO employees, we're able to give them the right level of training, the right levels of support. And we have an operations manager that looks after that. We also have an individual within the enrollment team that works closely with clients and our internal teams to develop an individualized recruitment plan. So for example, Alex mentioned about a trial where we were looking at a particular type of group, so potentially elderly patients for elderly volunteers. I shouldn't call them on to patients. And we knew that using social media, for example, wasn't going to be appropriate. So we had to think about a different strategy in terms of how we can recruit. So that individual works quite closely with clients and internal team, but they also give a regular update in terms of how we're performing and cost-correcting as needed along the journey. One of the other things I'm very proud of is that we have a payment coordinated sitting in the team. Now within the industry, it's probably the norm that in terms of paying volunteers or patients it can be quite a slow process. I think one of our companies that we visited told us that they can do things within 3 weeks, we can pay them with 3 weeks. We can do it within 24 to 48 hours, and we're quite proud of the strategy and the systems that we have in place. SARS enrollment. And then right at the end, of course, as Mel touched and Mo mentioned as well, we have our 2 screening facilities, one in London, Plumbers Row and the other in Central Manchester. And this is where we bring volunteers in to do the initial screen where we take the blood test and do their consent. And if they're then suitable, we then bring them in for a full health check before they enrolled into a study. And that's the team at the end there. One of the key things that we have is that we have a generic screening protocol for asthmatics and healthy volunteers, which allows us to recruit and screen volunteers throughout and what it does is it allows us to speed up study timelines or recruitment timeline because we already have a bank of volunteers that we can then leverage and roll into a study rather than wait for an official approval and then bring them on to study. So it's quite a unique capability that we have within FluCamp and hVIVO. And we screened 5 days a week. Our capacity is around 1,000, but of course, we can change that higher and lower as needed. So we can work in the weekends or we can do extended hours. And we've done weekends in the past and able to do more than 1,000 as required. When you think about the volunteer journey, and I touched on this earlier, the funnel that we have to do when this is a 2023, there are various areas of touch points where a volunteer can fall out. What we don't want to do is bring volunteers in for telescreen, which can be quite inexpensive, not only in terms of internal resource but also the effort that goes in. So we want to make sure that only those volunteers are invited are the ones that have the highest chance of success. But of course, that means likely not quite a lot of volunteers who apply. We then have astrology results, and as I touched on medical history, that takes out a huge batch of volunteers. So really, in 2023, when you look at the numbers of all the leads and the volunteers that we engage with 0.5% of volunteers made it onto a clinical trial. So that's the numbers that we're dealing with. Recruitment generally is about 30% to 40% of the clinical trials budget. And we also know that the #1 reason for clinical trials to go over budget or to be delayed tends to be around recruitment. So clearly, we have to be very careful in terms of how we manage that and manage our resources, but also in terms of volunteers. And we use -- we leverage various tools. One is around strict control in terms of our invites, but we also do real-time analytics, looking at how our funnels are performing and if there's any cost correction. We're quite we're able to quickly do that as well. Okay. So in terms of our database, so bearing in mind the funnel that I shared, traditional kind of recruitment strategies and organizations that you might engage with will be very keen to tell you about how big the database is that have got millions of patients of volunteers in the database. From our perspective, we only want to talk about those volunteers who are actually engaged and motivated to be a part of a trial. So I'm very pleased to tell you that we actually just took out 0.5 million volunteers out of our database because they were no longer engaged. They were no longer motivated to be part of a trial. But what we do have is over 300,000 volunteers sitting in the database we applied for a trial and are keen to work with FluCamp or get into a clinical trial. And of those, you can see the breakdown over 200,000 are healthy, just under 80,000 asthmatics and 40,000 when I term of special populations. Now we don't do trials in patients, but we do get volunteers and patients applying to be a part of FluCamp, and they currently sit within our database. Now we do regular engagements with these volunteers. We do keep doing regular outreach and we know from our own engagement that we have, that 40% to 50% maintain the database. So we're maintaining that and removing any of those that don't want to be part of the trials anymore. So I'm very pleased to announce is that we're looking to what do we do with all these volunteers? And we're going to be launching FluCamp as a service model. What this means is that we're going to be launching our volunteer database with other organizations, other CROs or the pharmaceutic companies. As I touched on earlier, the #1 reason for delay tends to be recruitment challenge. And we know that I'm not just saying this because it's me, but we know that we're a market leader in recruitment. We know that the number of volunteers that we get through the door in terms of our space online, is the #1. So we know that we can recruit quite quickly and efficiently plus we have this valuable database of engaged volunteers. One of the other things that we also have is a loyal volunteer community. We have volunteer ambassadors that now work with us to create materials, which is more of a payer to pay engagement rather than driven by a company. We see a huge uptake with the volunteers in terms of enrolling applying and, of course, entering into our database. And I can just give you a figure from January of this year, 135 of videos that were released into the online space. We're all done by our volunteer ambassadors and only 4 of those were from FluCamp. So that's where we actually drove the video and 131 were driven by our voluntary ambassadors. In terms of this as a service model, we want to also talk about the end-to-end service. We've got key partnerships in place. So for example, this one of the partnerships gives us access to 7 million patient database. But one of the other things that we did recently was signed a contract with Uber Health. We're all used to them. We use it to get from point A to point B. But Uber recently launched Uber Health, which is a service that allows patient transportation. So when we think about the future, 30% volunteers tend to drop out in the long-term follow-up. This is where we can book in transportation 6 months in advance. But we can also monitor that journey. So we know if we need to have a team on standby in the clinic, for example, we're going to be doing a field study soon, we can have a team waiting on standby when the volunteer enters a unit because we can see the journey being met. And finally, in terms of technology, we've invested quite heavily. We will continue to invest quite heavily to really leverage automation, just with the numbers and the share volumes that we deal with as much as automation we can put again, will help us in terms of managing our resources. And finally, what I'd like to touch on is that we're going to be launching FluCamp portal. So this is going to give access to our clients and our partners access to our database. So they'll be able to search real-time in terms of the volunteers and the patients that we have and be able to engage with us to engage those voluntaries to help them and support them with a clinical trial. We will be doing a tiered recruitment offering what we recognize the different shapes and sizes of CROs and partners. So there will be 3 kind of layers that they can engage with and I'm very pleased to say that we just recently completed a contract with another CRO, a global CRO, who came to us because we were struggling to recruit for volunteers with quite a difficult patient population, recruit population. The 150 referrals, and we were engaged with them, we understood their needs. We did a database search. We were able to give the referrals within 4 weeks. It could have been sooner. We wanted to take a pause in the middle to engage and make sure that we were giving them the right leads and the right context. I think personally, we could have done that within 3 weeks just with the database that we had and the course of the leads that we were able to send over to them. And this, of course, is now -- we are talking to the company now in terms of the next steps. So can we move it to the advance and to the premium model as well? So just to leave you with some numbers, and these are from January to June 2024. So this year, with those videos that I mentioned, we had 16 million views online of the long-term ambassador videos. We had 500,000 unique visitors to our website and we hit a new milestone and a record with 18,000 applications in a single month of May of this year. Some of the other stats you see on typically, we do around 17,000 to 18,000 screens per year. And this year, so far, we've already done at the end of June 10,000. So we're on track to get hit another milestone in terms of the number of screens we've done in a single year. Now I'm hoping this work. What I wanted to do is just show you a video of a volunteer who came to our quarantine and of course, meta video. Now we revet the videos in the sense that they don't talk about trials, they don't talk about anything to do with the clinical trial because that, of course, protected data, they can talk about the experiences that peer-to-peer engagement. So I hope this is going to work. [Presentation]

Sohail Nawaz

attendee
#54

As Mel mentioned, one tend to like their food. So as you can see, this is a video they've got 1.9 million views online. And again, as I say is that pace engagement. Thank you very much.

Yamin Khan

executive
#55

The line for FluCamp starts here, okay? Okay. Next, we have a double act. We've got our 2 leaders from our lab. We have Marianne and Alison. Marianne joined here in 2012, and she is the Associate Director of our lab operations. Alison has been here since 2002, almost as long as Alex and she's also the Director of Laboratory Project Operations.

Marianne Derricott

executive
#56

Right. So my name is Marianne. I'm responsible for operational delivery within labs. And today, I'm going to tell you all about our making new facility just a few from down stairs. So our previous facility when -- since 2011, really, we haven't really have had any change in terms of lab space. Between now and the overseas business has grown significantly. Meaning that what we can do at our previous facility is pretty much servicing the clinical challenge and we don't really have room for expansion. We can't push the world any further than we had. So yes, just servicing the challenge that is near at Canary Wharf, we have been able to design them with the help of our architect teams obviously. And we've been able to incorporate some new [indiscernible] features, just to make the best use out of the space and drive some efficiencies as well. In terms of capacity, we tripled the capacity compared to what we had before. Our labs are cap accredited, sorry, that's quite of American pathologists. We are also in the -- we're working towards gaining some new cap accreditation and our labs -- our labs MHRA inspected as well. So this is just an overview of the new facility. So there are 5 areas of main focus that we'll be diving into. So in green, you've got a category 3 lab in blue, our processing in virology laboratory in pink, CelCulture, in orange molecular facility and then in gray, black, some flexible lab space. So we'll be diving into each of these area a little bit more. So starting first by category level 3 lab. So this lab is going to enable us to work with as on Group III pathogens such as SARS-CoV-2, Dengue and some potential bird flu strains as well. So this is something that's completely new to us. In the past, we have worked at CAT 3 level, obviously, but we had a lab that we rented from the third-party -- excuse me. This time, we're going to have full ownership of this facility. We're actually in the process of recruiting a manager to take care of this area. And the fact that it's managed by hVIVO means we'll be in charge of the maintenance schedule, making sure that don't clash with our ongoing studies, for example, and also work to our hVIVO standard in terms of quality to our own code of practice rather than being sort of imposed somewhere else. So it's lots of changes for us. Moving on to our processing in virology lab. So in this lab, we've got a tripling in capacity. And that's mainly due to the design of the lab. It's a big [indiscernible] when you come. It's a very open space. We've streamlined the workflows and we've added some new features such as a little etch so between this lab and the cell counter lab, we've got this etch. So operators don't have to take their PPE of walk in the corridor, go and collect their plates to the same thing again PPE back on and then start working. They can just grab them from the [indiscernible] without having to change. We also have as Mel mentioned before, a pneumatic tube system to dispatch the samples. So there are straight dispatch points, upstairs on the units, all coming directly into the lab in one single location. So these features have allowed us to increase our efficiencies or do more with the same amount of staff, for example, as well as increasing our quality not only for samples, but also for data. The CelCulture and molecular laboratories for both these spaces we are doubling our capacity. So we've got lots of room for expansion. So as I mentioned before, this is very different to what we had at our previous facility, where literally we run out of space completely. There, we've got lots of capacity to take on some different studies, lab only studies, so supporting field studies, for example, or whatever they might be. So if we take the CelCulture lab, for example, in our previous facility. We just had one pretty small lab. Now we've got 3 different rooms, so one dedicated for preparation and then 2 even cleaner rooms for the culturing of the same and they've got 2 more safety cabinets in each in total, so we can do a lot more. And then finally, one of the most interesting feature of our new space. This is our flexible laboratories, recorded. So something we couldn't do before was sent out some proposals for potential contracts out of our current core competencies, such as, for example, some bacterial work. We couldn't do that because we're just physically in types of space at our previous facility. This lab is allowing us to bid for this kind of work because should we launch such a study, which we're really hoping we will. We can transform this lab currently an overflow space but that could really easily be converted into whatever we need it to be. So bacterial allergy or whatever else, that's really interesting. So that's it for me. I'll be handing over to my colleague Ali for the rest of our presentation. Thank you.

Unknown Executive

executive
#57

Okay. So following on from the overview of our exciting new state-of-the-art laboratory facility. The next question will be, what does the future hold for hLAB, so I just have a couple of slides here to basically talk you through our vision. So for several years now, hLAB has been at physical capacity at our current laboratory facility. We've been busy delivering clinical laboratory support for our human challenge trials. We often receive numerous requests from clients asking if we can help support them with their field trials. And this move to Canary Wharf will now be in a position to support more clients in this area of work that will sit alongside our existing services. So with this in mind, this seems like the perfect time to launch our goal for hLAB to be known as a leader in clinical laboratory support and specifically targeting year-on-year revenue growth in this area. To help us achieve our aim of this stand-alone business offering, which will be separate from our current hVIVO services, we are introducing a number of new initiatives to bring awareness to the hLAB brand. Next month, we'll be launching a dedicated website for each hLAB, but that will showcase the services that we can offer. Also, as part of the launch, we will be targeting a number of conferences. The hLAB will have a presence at going forward. The first of these ones will be the World Vaccine Conference -- Congress in October of this year. So the increase in capacity that Marianne talked us through, along with the dedicated specialty suites will allow us not only to expand our assay portfolio, but also the breadth of the pathogens that we can work with. We have plans underway to develop and validate a number of assays for a variety of the Group III hazard pathogens and also to introduce laboratory services for bacterial studies. In addition, we are launching a bio-specimen services that will provide clients with prospective samples that they can use for their own early-stage research. The increase in capacity also presents us with the opportunity to fully review all of our current systems, and we'll be looking to introduce automation in areas such as cell culture, which has traditionally been quite a manual process. And also, we'll be reviewing our current automation and looking where we can improve and expand upon that in areas such as our PCR. These updates to the technology will be able to streamline our workflows and further increase throughput and capacity. The final step in that process will be to look at establishing the seamless interaction between our limb systems in the laboratory and our ESO systems, which is the patient management. So with regards to our assay portfolio, it's worth mentioning here that hLAB-only business isn't something that's new to hVIVO. And in fact, the company started out with this is our main service offering and it has continued along in the background where it has been feasible. So at present, most of our clients in hLAB come to us at the challenged model stage. And well, as I mentioned, we'll continue to do that work. It will enable us to work with clients much earlier on in the drug development process, supporting their field trials, which adds the benefit of continuity for our clients and also for the assays to be used similar in the field trials to what they are in the challenge model. So we currently have a number of serology PCR and infectivity assays set up for our challenged models. Over the last 6 months, we've been performing additional validations to make sure that these are suitable for the field trial model. In addition, we're continuing to develop new assays for HMPV and SARS Omicron and on the right-hand side are options that we'll be able to develop in the future. We're currently at the scoping stage for many of these viruses with these kind of list. The key ones that we get a lot of inquiries about from clients. The expansion will also allow us to offer more of our PBMC processing services that we do on a bespoke level for our clients, additional biomarkers and obviously the provision of clinical trial kits. So yes, that was my final point on that, and I'm looking forward to lots of exciting times ahead for hLAB. Thank you.

Yamin Khan

executive
#58

Thank you, Marianne, and thank you, Ali. Next, we have Egle with us. So Egle joined the company around 2 years ago. She's our Business Director for Europe and Asia Pacific. She's had great success in bringing more awareness and more business from Europe as well as the Asia Pacific. She's got a number of years' experience in BD, including at a CRO called Biomass and like to welcome her to talk to you guys about hVIVO.

Egle Pavyde

executive
#59

Hi, everyone. Nice to be here in front of you today. So I would like to start my presentation of talking a little bit of recent trends in the industry because I think we can be a world leader in human challenge, but if no one needs human challenge studies, why to be a leader there? But we see that actually from the trends that are happening, we are really addressing most of those. So I would like to start with RNA virus vaccines, which are -- in the core focus, I would say, of development as well as treatments, and this includes influenza, RSV and SARS-CoV-2, which are our core models right now. Also, we see zoonotic diseases, so those diseases, which are transferred from animal into human. And we all know that we had the COVID pandemic happening in a way like that. There is now a lot of talks in conferences about avian flu. And in general, when we speak about the next pandemic, all the scientists and conferences, they are talking, when it's going to happen and not if it's going to happen. So that's a definite. And right now, the 2 core targets are avian flu and influenza H5N1. Then we have climate change, which I think was also mentioned during the fire chat today when we have dengue, Zika, Malaria and those diseases are moving upwards and it's becoming not only the tropical area diseases, but the problem for everyone. Therefore, we see more opportunities coming our way, especially for Dengue. And then we have AI all the time everywhere in our lives. It's also in infectious disease research. When we talk about finding the new targets in treatments or viruses, but also doing the surveillance for the disease and predicting outbreaks. COVID-19 is here to stay. I think now it's clear for everyone and I'm really happy that quite recently, we signed a contract for further development of our Omicron model. And if this model is successfully placed, which I believe will happen, when we have some studies lined up moving forward for Omicron. And then we have next-generation mucosal vaccine. So when we are talking about vaccines, everyone is looking for breadth and for longevity of vaccines, the protection. So mucosal vaccines is something that is really in core focus for that right now. When we look at the market, it's really growing. So we don't see like some kind of decrease in clinical research and infectious disease after the pandemic stop. And what we really see that there is a huge increase in the funding from academic and nonprofit organizations. And these organizations are such as BARDA, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Wellcome Trust and CEPI. We see the numbers here. Those are, of course, invested over a period of time. But this is a good sign for everyone for the biotechs, especially. But we also see the industry investing still and more in infectious diseases such as Novo Nordisk, Pfizer and BioNTech. When we speak about hVIVO, so we are and we will be end-to-end human challenge trial service provider. But we also want to address more needs of our clients and go with them through a longer way in their development so which includes patient recruitment services that my colleague just talked about the analytical lab services, specifically in infectious disease and respiratory diseases and the clinical site services. So we want to move even beyond that. Right now, we are recruiting loads of healthy volunteers, but we also want to do patient studies. We already have experience in asthma. So infectious disease and respiratory diseases will definitely be something that we will be mainly focusing on. But here on the slide, you see the experience of our investigators of our medics in the team so they have a way broader experience. This means that we can run studies in other indications as well. And a good example, I think, is the recently announced Phase IIb field study. We were selected as a single site in the U.K. We will be recruiting 1,000 volunteers. And I think you can see that there is already a big difference between what is recruited in human challenge studies and what is recruited in a field study. So this will be done within 8-week period towards the end of this year. And also, we want to expand further our outpatient unit in the Plumbers Row and we are increasing that capacity of recruiting 100 to 200 volunteers per week. And for that, we have different collaboration models so what we can do is run a full scope Phase II study if it's within our capacity as act as a full-service CRO. We also can act as a site in a Phase II, Phase III study, which is a good case study here on the slide and what Sohail told about stand-alone recruitment services with subject to field. When I'm mentioning those other things that we are doing a part of human challenge studies, I cannot skip to mention BenLife Sciences, which is actually involved -- this is our subsidiary, which is involved in all the back-end services that we do. So medical writing of protocols for our studies, also data management and statistics but they leave the journey of drug development of clients from the very early stage from the discovery to nonclinical so animal research and then moving to Phase I. So they are also expanding their capabilities in various ways. And I think right now, we have much better collaboration with them and we are working as a single large team. And the last slide is a bit on our pipeline. So I think we are still predominantly having most of our pipeline coming from U.S. and Europe. But also the Asia Pacific piece is growing in that regard. And I think a very good example how Asians plan where studies was from one of the recent calls with the client. I was asking them, so how likely that you are going to do a human challenge study. And the response was, if it's on our slides, we are doing it. So that is a very good way to show how Asians plan a bit differently, and we don't approach you if it's not in your plans. Then the distribution between the biotech and pharma. So we have more opportunities coming from biotech, but you have to understand that, of course, pharma has a big money, so more of those pharma opportunities are those which are materializing in the end. And when we look at the pipeline distribution between challenge and non challenge, I was thinking about it yesterday, and I thought it's a good parallel like from what we had before and what we have right now in this unit like flying the plane. So before hVIVO was only onboarding the business class passengers, which we're paying huge amounts of money and we were putting the luggages on the economy class seats. So right now, we want to onboard more of those field studies, which will definitely be lower in budgets, but then the efficiency that we have right now, we can do way more for our clients. And I think from the model perspective, we don't have one single model dominating, which again helps us distribute work more efficiently, distribute the recruitment more efficiently and have different viruses in our portfolio. So this is all I want to tell you today. Thank you.

Yamin Khan

executive
#60

Okay. Our final presentation is a brief overview of our trading update. Steve Pinkerton, our CFO, and he's been with us since 2016, he took on the role of the CFO in October 2022. So Steve?

Stephen Pinkerton

executive
#61

Thank you, everyone, and I hope you've seen some of the management team presenting today, and I do have to thank them for making my life so much easier because these results are pretty decent, as I'm sure you all agree. So it's much easier to explain and to walk through. I'm not sure right. So just touching on revenue. I think has already accepted -- alluded to the fact that we have accelerated some project work, mainly because we were contracted by the clients to do so. They want to hit certain time lines, and we are working to deliver this across those time lines to meet those time lines across 3 different facilities, no small feat. But some of the interesting facts behind that is, we have done a record number of -- much easier to look from down here, isn't it? A record number of volunteers inoculated, 56% more. And if we'd had Canary Wharf at the 1st of January, we would've been able to do it all in Canary Wharf facilities. We wouldn't have had to do everything because -- but because we're transitioning, we needed those 3 facilities to deliver on. I think the other thing to mention is that the challenge revenue per volunteer has increased, and some of this is mix. Some of this has got to do with pricing. We are always updating our prices with new information. My team -- the team fully appreciate the number of metrics that we look at on a monthly basis. We go into grand, grand detail on all the metrics that we look at to enhance and to track how we're performing, both on our costs and on our revenues. So there, the very important fact to deliver this volume of work, we need a number of -- we need a high order book. And we did -- we started off the year with a very strong order book. And we have 6 studies in quarantine across 5 different viruses. That makes recruitment and getting volunteers through the system to deliver that revenue much faster. Then life sciences hasn't had a significant impact on revenue year-on-year, mainly because the exchange rate has gone adverse to them. But if you look at the local currency rate, they have grown 10%, so a solid performance. And we're looking to do more on that side of things. Just to go back a little bit to the acceleration of client facilities. I know everybody is going to ask how we've recognized the accelerating fees that we've received from our clients to build Canary Wharf. We recognized some of it in 2024 -- 2023, and the rest of it is being recognized in 2024. So we maintain our GBP 62 million full year revenue guidance, and we're reaffirming it and after a strong H1. EBITDA, we've had significant improvement in volume. That means greater utilization, cost of staff and cost of facilities. And actually, some of the interesting metrics about this is that I've highlighted that we -- our volunteers grew by 56% year-on-year. Advertising, if I compare the advertising cost for H1 versus the advertising for 2023 versus H1 cost for advertising in 2024, it was flat, no increase. So we did -- so Hill and his team have done a fantastic job in recruiting volunteers. So this is where some of the margin is coming through. And recruitment is our highest margin contributor to our EBITDA, not in absolute terms, but in percentage terms. The highest margin is delivered by clinical operations and then laboratory work. So that just gives you a sense of where the money is coming from and how we are able to leverage our facilities and our work. The -- so -- one just got to understand that this EBITDA is stated after running 3 different facilities, having overlapping costs. We are manufacturing new virus challenge agents. We've manufactured in H3 and 2. We're finishing off an RSV -- new RSV virus because Memphis has run out. We're just finishing it off at the moment, so we need to replace those viruses. And so that is also included in the EBITDA margin. So it really gives you a sense of -- next year, we will get a real sense of what we can deliver, being all in one facility, but it's looking positive. And I'm glad you've all interpreted the guidance over here was full year EBITDA margin at end of the -- at the upper end of market expectations pretty well. So thank you for that. Last bit on cash. Yes, it's up. GBP 37 million, up from last year. But from December, it was GBP 37 million as well. So a couple of points to highlight here is, at December, clients held cash for GBP 16 million. So the underlying cash that we owned that we could do what we'd like was GBP 20 million -- GBP 21 million. At the end of June, client-held cash is GBP 7 million. We own GBP 30 million of that cash, okay? So we don't have to see -- we don't see an increase from December to half year, and that's mainly because we've delivered the work. We've accelerated the work. So we've hit a lot of milestones. And it is for one of our big pharma clients, and they pay 60 days. And because we've hit a number of milestones since April, because they've been in the unit in April, we hit those milestones and the cash is still coming through. So there's a bit of a delay, and unusually, we have a much higher increase in trade receivables. So that's what's holding back the cash, but it's just a timing issue. There's no issues other than that. Apart from that, and the last thing is, obviously, we signed a deal in -- early -- in mid-June, and they still got, well, their booking fees, and the start-up fees were received in July. So it's a bit of a timing issue, but we're more than happy with that. So that's -- I think that's enough on cash. Thing to highlight, there's no debt, and it's obviously with GBP 37 million worth of cash in the books. And that's it. We're open for questions, I think.

Yamin Khan

executive
#62

Thank you, Stephen. Thank you, everyone. So we are a little bit short of time, but happy to take 2 or 3 questions from the audience on the trading update.

Leolie Telford-Cooke

analyst
#63

Leolie Telford-Cooke from Peel Hunt. So there was a brief mention about the field studies costing less than the challenge studies. Could you talk a bit more about the potential margins and costs associated with field in comparison to challenge?

Yamin Khan

executive
#64

So challenge trials, I mean, we -- I think we talked about it, we're 90% market shareholder, and it's a very kind of scientific expertise you require as well as the facility to run. So that is a relatively high-margin business. But field study is that much more simple to do. There's -- the market, much bigger, but the number of suppliers is huge and stark competition. So we expect to see a lower margin on the bids that go out with regards to that. But because we're able to leverage our current facilities as well as our resources to deliver those studies, we expect to see a better margin on delivery. So this will be our first major trial that we will be running in Plumbers Row, and we anticipate we'll deliver similar margin to what we achieved, the challenge trial, by utilizing those synergies. Anyone else? Very quiet bunch of analysts. Great. Thank you very much. Thank you. So I'm just going to close that now. [Break]

Yamin Khan

executive
#65

Teenage years. I have a teenage daughter, so I know what that means. We're still looking to find our place in the world. I think we -- as a challenge trial industry, there's a lot of good data coming out from it. But there isn't -- we haven't reached the critical mass, I think, of the data that really puts challenge trial on the map with regards to the clinical development plan that the industry produces. I think over the last 18 months or so, the first time we've seen companies coming to us with their full development platform, Phase I to Phase IV, and saying we have a challenge trial in our plans. Historically, that never happened. We had always had to go out to the market and convince clients to come to us and do the challenge trials. And that is something shifting. So -- but I don't think we reached our inflection point. But this facility, this milestone is probably one of the biggest things we've achieved in the company in it's history. So I do want to take the opportunity to thank all the employees, current employees, past employees, our Board, of course, our customers, investors, porters, academic partners. I think most importantly for me, the volunteers, okay? I mean, without the volunteers, you can't develop drugs. I mean, something people don't always kind of remember. We need healthy volunteers and patients to volunteer for clinical trials to be able to help develop new drug. And that's really key. And you will have seen already from some of the competition, we used the influence of the well-being in the design of the facility. And when you go downstairs and you have a tour, have a look, you'll be able to see that for yourself. I want to thank everyone today, for all the presenters for doing a great job, for the panel for some stimulating discussion, and thank you all for attending this. At this time, we will be saying goodbye to our online virtual attendees, soon coming towards the end of the webcast. But the people online will have the opportunity to go on a virtual tour through the link that should be on your screen. So thank you to all the virtual attendees.

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