ICL Group Ltd (ICL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 27, 2020

US conference_presentation 36 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Alexander Jones

analyst
#1

Thanks very much for joining. I'm Alex Jones from the European Chemicals team, and I'm delighted here to host ICL and Limor Gruber, who's the Head of Investor Relations there. So I'll hand it over to you, go through a couple of slides, and then we'll go into Q&A from there.

Limor Gruber

executive
#2

Yes. I'll start with a quick introduction to put us all more or less on the same page and then we'll go to the Q&A. So ICL, what is the company or how would we describe the company? We have 3 value chains: bromine, potash and phosphate. Of course, based on our natural resources in the Dead Sea, in the Negev Desert in Israel and in the Yunnan province in China. In each of these value chain, we have some sort of leadership position. And let me just go through it. So in the bromine, we are the clear leader of the market. We have 40% of capacity, about 1/3 of production. We have most of the excess capacity in the market. And as a responsible leader, I should say, in this market. We managed our production in order to match it with supply. We also benefited from a significant decrease in the resources in China. And the result was significant price increases in the last few years. Going forward, we are focusing on shifting customers from buying elemental bromine from us and from others to buying flame retardant or other bromine compounds from us. About 75% of the elemental bromine that we produce at the Dead Sea is used for the bromine compounds. Only 25% we sell externally. And this will decrease as well. The leadership in the bromine market is coming basically from the resources. The Dead Sea is the best resource for bromine in the world in terms of unlimited amount, in terms of very high concentration and as a result, low production cost. The second value chain that we have is the potash. Potash, we produce just below 5 million tonnes per year, 80% of it at the Dead Sea, the rest in conventional mining in Spain. Again, here, the leadership position is not based on volume. It's based on our cost leadership. The Dead Sea is one of the 3 most competitive potash production site in the world. And we are in the process of improving our cost position also in Spain. Spain is a relatively high-cost operation. What we're doing there today, we're working in 2 different sites. We're consolidating these sites in order to significantly reduce the fixed cost to make this site more competitive. And of course, at the Dead Sea, the goal is to maintain our robust competitive position. Finally, the phosphate, we have a $2 billion phosphate business. However, 55% of this business is specialty phosphate, completely uncorrelated to what's happening in the commodity phosphate market. These are mostly value added, some of them very high-end solutions based on phosphoric acid and phosphate salt for the food industry and different industrial application. The last, I would say, division that we have is the Innovative Ag Solution. What you see here as IAS. This is our Specialty Fertilizers business. This is the only business where we don't have leadership position. And in this business, this is what we're doing. We're building our leadership position. Of course, we have the raw material because these are based on potash and phosphate, but we need to expand our geographical footprint and to fill gaps in our product portfolio. Specialty fertilizers, in general, are a fast-growing market. The market grows between 5% to 10% per year. And of course, much faster than commodity fertilizer because the changes in the agricultural market. You can see here the breakdown of the sales of our different businesses. Let me just stop for a second on the Phosphate Solutions division. As I said, $2 billion business, 5% operating margin. So sales, as I said, 55% specialty, where we have leadership position. We're the biggest in the markets of Europe, U.S. and South America, but the profit is basically 100% from the specialty. Our strategy here going forward is to increase the share of the specialty from 55% to 75%. One of the ways that we're doing this, of course, building the market, introducing new solutions. But also, we've just launched a pure phosphoric acid plant in our joint venture in China, in Yunnan. And this is a 70,000 tonnes plant in order to shift these specific operations from commodity, which today it is mostly commodity, to mostly specialty. And as I said, our goal is to increase the Innovative Ag Solutions part of the business, not just through growing the Specialty Fertilizer business, but also by developing digital solutions for agricultural productivity. And I'll say a short sentence about this. Today, there is a lot of activity in terms of precision agriculture on the data collection side of the business. Meaning, there is a lot of hardware being developed in order to collect information from the field. However, we are still not there in terms of analyzing this data. And based on this analysis, provide in time recommendations for farmer. And this is what we're doing. We're developing a content solution, which will allow the analysis. And based on the analysis, recommendation based on these data and information. And the goal is really to give recommendation that farmers will be able to use when they need to use it. For now, this is still a challenge. And of course, this is more of a long-term, I would say, process for ICL. I think that we can dig in into each of the businesses, but I think it's a good time to move to a few questions. I do want to get to the last slide of the presentation for you guys that are here because later in March, we have an Investor Day, well, a couple of them, one in London and one in New York. There would be a webcast of the New York City Investor Day. Of course, whoever from you guys who are based in New York or adjacent to New York or London, of course, we will be happy to see you there.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#3

Awesome. Thanks very much for that introduction and maybe we can go through the business lines and focusing a little bit on some of those issues. So starting with bromine maybe. You talked about the environmental closures in China and how that shifted production elsewhere. Is that something that's largely over now or is that something you expect to continue?

Limor Gruber

executive
#4

Well, it's not just due to environmental pressure in terms of regulation, it's also just depletion of resources. China, 5 or 6 years ago, produced 150,000 tonnes of elemental bromine. In 2019, they produced 50,000 tonnes of bromine. Probably most of the decrease already happened. But at some point, this will go out of the market as well. We expect that in the next 2, 3 years, they will probably go even below 30,000 tonnes. Added to that was the environmental regulatory which the Chinese government, in a way, focused on industries that are not strategic to the people in terms of employment. And the elemental bromine industry and the flame retardant industry was such industry. And this also impacted the production and was one of the reasons for the price increases.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#5

Yes. And I suppose on that price point, Albemarle has come out publicly and said, prices don't look that they've rallied in the winter as much as you might have usually expected and they've kind of alluded to maybe this is a sort of peak at least relative to history?

Limor Gruber

executive
#6

So in a way, I'll explain it. It's true that in 2019, after the summer, prices did not further increase. The reason is that the Chinese industry in general or I mean, production of flame retardant and other bromine compound is basically not really dependent anymore on the local elemental bromine production. So the price in China now is much less of an indicator to the market or to the prices that the company sees compared to what it was a few years ago. For ICL, for example, as we shift, we are shifting our customers to long-term agreement, where price are settled once a year, and of course, of the value-added product and not just elemental bromine, we still see that we can sign agreement or update the agreement with higher prices. The increase is much more moderate compared to what it was in the last 3 years. But the market is very robust. Prices are very robust, and we feel confident that we do not expect any change in the trend going forward.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#7

And I suppose part of that you announced recently was an increase in capacity in Israel because of some Asian contracts you signed.

Limor Gruber

executive
#8

Yes. Yes. In order to, of course, fulfill these agreement, we are expanding the capacity of the flame retardant in our plants in Israel. For the elemental bromine, we don't need to expand our capacity. We have, as I said, excess capacity of about 100,000 tonnes. Of course, we will use more of the elemental bromine because we're increasing the capacity of the flame retardant plant.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#9

Great. And maybe we can come back to bromine with questions from the audience later, but shifting gears to potash for a second. In the fourth quarter, you had a kind of downtime of the plant to increase capacity by about 5%. What was the thinking behind that given the short-term market backdrop that we see?

Limor Gruber

executive
#10

Yes. It's more of being able to fully utilize the capacity at the Dead Sea. We needed to do some upgrades to different facilities in the plant. And it's not a capacity expansion, it's more of like improving the capability to utilize this capacity. Of course, it has implication on the cost per tonne because on the same basis of fixed cost we have more production and it should reduce our cost per tonne and help our margin.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#11

Yes. And I suppose, similarly, you've had a strategy in Spain over a number of years to change the infrastructure, reduce the cost?

Limor Gruber

executive
#12

Yes. I mentioned this in my opening remarks. In Spain, maybe I'll elaborate a little bit. In Spain, we are today producing in 2 different sites, 2 mining sites, 2 processing facilities, each of them produce just below 500,000 tonnes. And this is a high-cost operation because the economies of scale are not optimized. And what we're doing in one of the mines where we have the better ore grade and bigger reserve, we're building an access ramp instead of the traditional shaft that we all know from potash mining and with a conveyor belt. And the goal is to basically significantly increase the hoisting capacity from the mine. This project is expected to be completed in the fourth quarter of this year. And then gradually, we will ramp up this operation. And gradually, we will close the other mine. This will allow us a significant decrease in the fixed cost per tonne we think at least a few tens of millions of dollars. Initially, it will improve our production by about 100,000, 150,000 tonnes. And after the completion and beyond 2021, we do plan to do some debottlenecking, again, to improve the margin, to lower the cost per tonne of about 200,000 to 300,000 tonnes.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#13

Okay. And then in that context, I guess, looking a bit longer term, what's your view on the outlook for potash market? I mean, we've seen a substantial price decrease, do you think there's enough demand coming through this year to reverse that quite quickly?

Limor Gruber

executive
#14

Well, not everything is in our hands. Nature needs to take its course because weather, of course, is an important factor in this coming spring in North America and in Europe. Hopefully, even if it's slightly better than the terrible weather that we had last spring, in 2019, it will contribute to the demand of potash. Still remains to be seen how China kind of organizes itself towards the planting season, which is also within a month from now. We know the Chinese government clearly stated that they're giving priority to the agricultural production in terms of infrastructure, transportation, making sure inputs are going into the field and farmers are going into the field. Obviously, they don't need food insecurity to be added to whatever issues they're dealing with this year. So we'll have to see how this works. On the supply side, there are, as you probably know, there are 2 mines that came online a couple of years ago and are ramping up. One in Saskatchewan that was developed by K+S. And basically 2 in Russia, but only one is really operating by EuroChem. And we do expect to see about 1 million tonne increased supply in 2020 from these 2 mines. However, if the season will work well, the demand should absorb this additional supply as long as the curtailed volume from the North American producers will not return at least for the first half of the year. Now it will help to stabilize the prices. And now the question is whether it will be enough and the inventory reduction would be enough to kind of shift the trend towards recovery in prices in the second half of the year.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#15

And even longer term, I guess, beyond those things, do you worry about BHP entering the market or is that something you're quite relaxed about?

Limor Gruber

executive
#16

Well, if you look at what would be the range of potash prices which, on one side, provide good margins to the existing players and on the other side do not encourage new capacity, it's a rather limited range between $250 to $350 per tonne on average. Now for BHP, recently, their remarks recently indicated that, of course, we know in 2021, they're supposed to have some sort of resolution in their Board. But even from that point onward, they will only be able to start producing in 2026 and reach the 4 million tonnes initial capacity a few years later. So basically, we're talking towards the end of the decade where there will really be sales in the market. As long as we don't see other significant projects, which we don't expect as long as prices are in the range that I've talked about, then this is something that growth in demand is about 2% per year, about 1 million tonnes per year, this can be absorbed.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#17

Okay. I mean, again, we can return to potash a bit later, but maybe shifting to phosphates for a second. You've talked about the kind of meatless food market and a recent breakthrough you made there. What's the potential runway for that product? Is that something you see as significant?

Limor Gruber

executive
#18

Well, we don't like to give numbers on this because it can be very significant, but we're still in a point where estimating anything can be really not even scratching the potential. What we developed, we developed 2 different solution. One is based on fava beans. One is based on phosphate. We have a couple of long-term agreements with the big food producers in the U.S. and in Brazil. And basically, the alternative meat, these are food producers that are traditional processed meat and beef and chicken poultry producers. But of course, they need to enhance their footprint in the alternative meats because, in a way, this is a solution or a development that is building upon the trends that we see in the food consumption in the world and the consumer taste. And we provide them with this solution. So it's very interesting. This market is growing very rapidly, more than 10% per year. And we will continue to build the market for ourselves, sign new agreement with additional suppliers. We'll see.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#19

And maybe broadly speaking on phosphate specialties, I guess, in the fertilizer commodity bit, there's been a lot of downward pressure on prices last year. Is that something that's transferred to customers in specialty?

Limor Gruber

executive
#20

Very limited. Only, I would say, on the less sophisticated or less value-added specialty phosphates, like just the common pure phosphoric acid product. On the other hand, we actually were able, during 2019, to increase prices on our specialty phosphate, especially on the part of the food phosphate sold. So the correlation is very, very low and this is still the case in early 2020.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#21

Okay. And then moving on maybe swiftly to Innovative Ag Solutions. Clearly, those are niche markets you're trying to penetrate and grow out. What are the hurdles in some of those areas to doing so or is this something where you're actually encountering little resistance and it's just about scaling it up?

Limor Gruber

executive
#22

It's mostly building the agronomic and the marketing capabilities for the company in the Southern Hemisphere of the world. Also, we need to fill gaps, as I said, in our portfolio. We have a couple of products that are still missing because in this business, at least currently, customers expect you to provide a full portfolio. Now ICL actually has the largest portfolio among its peers, but we do think that we need to fill some areas there as well. This is where you can also expect M&A because for geographical footprint, for product portfolio, we are actively looking for a candidate. And again, the next few years, of course, it means that there is pressure on the cost because this building of the market obviously will require resources. But as we grow the revenues, this will also be -- it's like building a platform, which will allow much larger revenues in the future.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#23

Absolutely. I mean, maybe at that kind of point, we can open up to the audience for questions if there are any out there. But otherwise, we can keep going. Over there?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#24

On potash, just out of interest, what percentage of your product you sell is soluble potash?

Limor Gruber

executive
#25

What percentage of what?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#26

Is soluble?

Limor Gruber

executive
#27

In the Specialty Fertilizers, you mean?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#28

Or in potash, in general?

Limor Gruber

executive
#29

No. Potash is not soluble. Potash is granules or like powder. It is used for direct application or for blend. We do sell -- you mean soluble?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#30

Yes. The Polysulphate, is that...

Limor Gruber

executive
#31

Okay. So Polysulphate, again, Polysulphate has solubility characteristics, but we don't sell like soluble Polysulphate, okay? Polysulphate has some sort of natural solubility characteristics.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

Are you concerned at all about Anglo American buying Sirius Minerals?

Limor Gruber

executive
#33

Well, this is still early days and it's not something that we really fully understand. I mean, it's not a step that we really understand. We believe that the Polysulphate is a long term, about 3 million tonnes market. And this is our analysis based on the specialty, MOP, sulfur, magnesium combination market, considering Polysulphate can take about 10% of this market. Now if the market is so much larger based on Sirius' estimate, then, of course, we will benefit from this as well, but it remains to be seen what Anglo will decide to do.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#34

And maybe following up on that and then we can go to Steve. How's the customer reception been since you've transitioned the U.K. towards that product rather than commodity?

Limor Gruber

executive
#35

Actually, we are in a very good sales momentum. We doubled the geographical areas where we sell to. We more than doubled the number of customers. It is also, of course, reflected in our sales. We successfully ramped up our production. We still need to ramp up further. The Polysulphate has several unique characteristics. First of all, it's a natural fertilizer. It's a mineral that is the combination of potassium, sulphur, calcium, magnesium and some boron. And there is no need for chemical processing. You can mine it. It can be directly for application in the field. We also develop and continue to develop a blend of Polysulphate enhanced with potash or Polysulphate enhanced with phosphate and potash. And the acceptance is very good. Field trials are successful. And we feel confident that we will reach our targets there.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#36

Steve?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#37

What is your view of the drivers of phosphate price decline in 2019? And what do you think is necessary for that to meaningfully recover?

Limor Gruber

executive
#38

Okay. Just before I answer this, I, again, would like to emphasize, we don't see ourselves as a commodity phosphate player, okay? The focus is on specialty. We still have capacity which is not 100% filled with the needs of our specialty business so the commodity business is a filler. Now for your question, some of the effect that we saw on the potash market also impacted the phosphate, mainly the bad weather in the spring of 2019. In addition to that, demand in China was negatively impacted mainly by the African swine flu. And in addition or in parallel, there was a ramp-up of production from OCP and from Ma'aden. So basically, the phosphate market was in overcapacity or oversupply market and that was the reason for the decrease in prices.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#39

Sorry, a naïve question. But in the Dead Sea, in the process of producing potash, do you have a lot of white salts that build up in the evaporation pond?

Limor Gruber

executive
#40

A lot of what, sorry?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#41

Of white salts so...

Limor Gruber

executive
#42

Well, let me explain the process and then it would be easier to understand. I mean, the Dead Sea basically is 2 different basins. There is a natural basin, which is the Northern Basin from where we pump water from into a system of evaporation pond, which are the Southern Basin of the Dead Sea. Now the water are flowing through the system and in each pond, initially, the salt is sinking. And then in the following pond, we see the raw material which is called carnalite. The raw material is then sinking and we harvest it into the processing plant. Now the salt that is sinking in the first pond, and because we need a constant amount of water in the pond, in general, the result was an increase in the water level of this evaporation pond. And as a result, just this year, we're starting a project that every year will harvest a certain amount of salt from the bottom of this pond in order to prevent the water levels to increase. And why don't we want the water level to increase? It's just that this pond is actually the Dead Sea shores for the tourism industry in the area. Because the Northern Basin water level is decreasing because of natural evaporation and the fact that no water are coming in, the hotels in the area were built on the shores of the evaporation pond, which there the water level is stable and no risk for it to deplete and that the shore will be further away from the infrastructure. So as a result, we will start to harvest this salt this year. It will cost us between $20 million to $30 million per year. However, different efficiency projects that we did in the last couple of years in the Dead Sea, including the one that we discussed at the end of 2019, will offset this increase in cost.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#43

A follow-up question. Besides the cost, what do you actually do with the salt that you pull out of those first?

Limor Gruber

executive
#44

Oh, initially, it's going to be piled on the shores of this pond. It's a huge pond, okay? Maybe you imagine something small, but it's a huge one. It will be accumulated on the shores on the other side where there is no tourism infrastructure. And from some point, it will be shipped to the Northern Basin of the Dead Sea and will sunk there. It will have no impact on the Northern Basin of the Dead Sea whatsoever because it's huge.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#45

And sorry, maybe if I can ask one final question. In Spain, in your Iberia projects, do you have to deposit the waste from the processing back underground?

Limor Gruber

executive
#46

Do we have to what, sorry?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#47

The waste from the processing to produce your potash, so the other salts, do you have to put them back underground?

Limor Gruber

executive
#48

Yes. Salt is a byproduct in the production of potash of conventional mining. Actually, it's about 50-50, meaning for 1 tonne of potash there is 1 tonne of salt, which is basically a byproduct. There are 2 things that we're doing there. First of all, we built a vacuum salt plant which uses this salt and producers vacuum salt, which is high-end salt, especially for the electronics industry clean rooms and operations of this sort. And the Spanish government is actually building a collector. And basically, it would be like a long canal or tube that will take this slurry with salt to the Mediterranean. It's relatively close to the shore. It's near Barcelona, this operation. So it's not like a very long canal.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#49

Maybe partly as a follow-up to those kind of waste disposal questions. What's your sense from investors around ESG issues? How much are they pushing you more than they did?

Limor Gruber

executive
#50

Well, actually, we see in the last, especially in the last year, much more focus on ESG issues. At ICL, we're very, very focused on that, I would say, in the last decade. We are rated by all the leading ESG agencies with very high score. Recently, we got the ESG score from Bloomberg. We're on the top of our fertilizer peers, on the top of the chemical industry in general. We are, by far, the leading company in Israel in terms of ESG. A lot of our production is lower carbon footprint production, the Dead Sea, its evaporation pond and low in energy. We have the Polysulphate, which is a natural product, very low carbon footprint, also certified for organic agriculture. And of course, we significantly reduced our emissions in the last few years. And we see that investors are more and more interested to hear what we're doing there.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#51

Great. And maybe a final one for me, just wrapping up on capital allocation and how you're prioritizing debt paydown versus organic CapEx versus some M&A you might want to do in Innovative Ag or other things you want to spend your cash on?

Limor Gruber

executive
#52

Okay. So when we figure out our capital allocation, we have a very, I would say, clear approach. On one side, we want to maintain our investment-grade rating, which means strong financial position. In addition, we want to maintain a higher than industry average in terms of dividend yield. And we also would like to have resources for our growth in the future. Today, we are net debt-to-EBITDA of about 2. We're very comfortable with that. We don't have plans to reduce this further. Actually, if we will need, if there will be opportunities, we're very flexible to pursue such opportunities because we can even increase by 0.4, 0.5 EBITDA our net debt. And as a result, we feel comfortable that we will be able to continue and balance between these 3 factors in terms of our capital allocation.

Alexander Jones

analyst
#53

Excellent. Well, unless there are any other questions, thanks very much for your time, Limor, and for joining us.

Limor Gruber

executive
#54

Thank you.

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