Ideanomics, Inc. (IDEX) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 30, 2021

US m_and_a 18 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to the Ideanomics Shareholder Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] It's now my pleasure to introduce your host, Tony Sklar, Vice President, Communications and Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Tony Sklar

executive
#2

Good morning, everybody, and thank you so much, operator. Thank you to all the participants on the call today. Today, this is the Ideanomics-VIA Acquisition Investors Conference Call. And joining me, I am pleased to have Mr. Alfred Poor, our Chief Executive Officer of Ideanomics; Mr. Shane McMahon, our Chairman of the Board here at Ideanomics; Mr. Bob Purcell, Chief Executive Officer at VIA. A webcast of today's call will be archived and then available on our Investor Presentations section of our corporate website for a minimum of 30 days. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. In addition to other than risks is more fully described in the Ideanomics' public filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which can be seen at www.sec.gov. Today, August 30, 2021, the company announces entering into an agreement to acquire VIA Motors International for an aggregate consideration of up to $630 million in an all-stock transaction for a 100% ownership stake, subject to customary closing conditions of the Ideanomics' shareholder approval. The format of today's call will be as follows: Mr. Alf Poor, our Ideanomics CEO; and Mr. Shane McMahon, Chairman of the Board at Ideanomics, will speak to the acquisition highlights and the business strategy. Mr. Bob Purcell, CEO of VIA Motors, will speak to the VIA Motors' business model. And if time permits, management will take some questions at the end. I am now excited to hand the conversation over to Mr. Alfred Poor, Ideanomics' CEO.

Alfred Poor

executive
#3

Good morning, everyone. Thank you, and welcome to our investors and analysts who are joining us this morning on such short notice. I'm extremely pleased to speak with you about Ideanomics' acquisition of VIA Motors. Before I get into the details of this transformative deal, I would like to expect the sincere thank you to the teams at VIA and their sell-side support from Blue Sea Advisors, Evercore, and White and Case. And on the Ideanomics side, I would also like to thank our buy-side team, including my management team and Board, as well as Morgan Stanley, Venable, Han Santos, UHY, [ Ricardo ] and others, including our entire corporate development team. And finally I'd like to say thank you to Shane McMahon, our Chairman, who joins us today. He was instrumental in this particular deal and has provided us with guidance and continued support as we build our global presence and a made-in-America brand. VIA is a perfect strategic fit for Ideanomics. This acquisition represents a transformational milestone for Ideanomics, notably our largest to date in our company's history, but will further enhance our competitive leadership position in the global commercial EV market by adding strong innovation capabilities from VIA, to our growing portfolio of leading companies in the commercial EV market. We are very pleased to incorporate VIA Motors' market-leading EV business, its proprietary skateboard platform, its prudent management team and its experienced employees to the Ideanomics family. This acquisition is aligned with our long-term strategy and provides us an immediate leadership position in a rapidly growing market and yet another path to accelerate Ideanomics' growth and profitability. It also provides Ideanomics with full OEM manufacturing capabilities that will reap dividends to our other division. VIA's products and services for global fleet operators are highly synergistic with Ideanomics and will significantly complement our end-to-end mobility ecosystem. Over to you, Shane.

Shane B. McMahon

executive
#4

Thank you, Alf. Well, again, you hit the nail right on the head as it pertains to our ecosystem. And this deal with VIA Motors is exactly that. We are transforming Ideanomics into everything in the EV space. We're now going through with VIA. We're going to make the vehicles through our force induction charging system. With WAVE, we're going to be able to charge. Through our relationships with Prettl, we're going to be able to have outside battery storage to charge any type of fleets outside of a normal grid and many other aspects complete ecosystem for, again, Ideanomics. I couldn't be more excited, and this all really came down. It started with a dinner with Alf, myself and Bob and a few others. And we came to a realization that there was a huge opportunity here for us really to get in together, and that's exactly what's happened. Again, it's a transformative deal for Ideanomics. We continue to grow as a leader in the commercial EV space. And with that, we're here to help establish VIA as a market disruptor, and we are excited to welcome Bob and his team to the Ideanomics family. So with that, I will turn it over to Bob Purcell.

Bob Purcell

executive
#5

Thank you, Shane. Good morning. I'm Bob Purcell, CEO of VIA Motors. I've been with VIA since 2015 and have been in the EV space since 1994, when I led the General Motors activity on the EV1. This transaction is an outstanding milestone and a great day for VIA Motors. All of us at VIA are delighted to join the Ideanomics family. As a leading electric commercial vehicle OEM, VIA designs and will manufacture a portfolio of Class 2 to 5 electric commercial vans and trucks launching in 2023. Combining VIA with Ideanomics facilitates significant synergies between the 2 companies, leveraging development and marketing across the subsidiaries, solutions for charging infrastructure, financing of both vehicles and charging and sourcing of propulsion components. We are very excited to become part of the Ideanomics family to usher in the new era of e-mobility. VIA Motors is changing last and mid-mile delivery with innovative and affordable electric commercial vehicles. Ideanomics' financial and personnel resources provide the back-end VIA needs to pursue an array of exciting growth prospects. All of us at VIA Motors are delighted to join the team to further the long-term growth strategy at Ideanomics.

Alfred Poor

executive
#6

Thank you, Bob. This is a highly synergistic deal, which was outlined in our press release this morning. And we are very excited to be part of accelerating EV adoption and Ideanomics' market share in the commercial EV space. By coming together with VIA, we believe we can further accelerate all of our strategic paths and bring tremendous opportunities and value to our customers and our shareholders. Thank you, all. I'll hand you back to Tony Sklar.

Tony Sklar

executive
#7

Thank you so much to Bob, Shane and Alf, very much appreciated. This concludes our management prepared remarks, and we will now have a chance to take a few questions. Operator, could you just let our folks on the line know how to raise their hand?

Operator

operator
#8

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Craig Irwin from ROTH Capital.

Craig Irwin

analyst
#9

So I should say congratulations. This looks like an important acquisition, not just for Ideanomics, but also for the broader market. The obvious question that's out there on the side of institutional investors this morning is, how does this fit better into the Ideanomics portfolio than it would into a SPAC IPO, which was obviously what VIA Motors was pursuing over the last several quarters?

Alfred Poor

executive
#10

Yes. Thanks. I'd like to take that, if I can, Craig, and good morning. Good to hear from you again. I think if you take a look at what Ideanomics had to offer VIA, I think the key is there, as well as the capitalization we could bring to the table the same as a SPAC. We're a very liquid security that trades on the NASDAQ. We have a hefty balance sheet. So that gives VIA the confidence that we can help them invest and grow their business as they need to. But more importantly, when you go into the SPAC, you're going into an empty company. It's a blank check. It's a shelf, a one of a better term. As we began to get to know the team of VIA Motors and as Shane said, it started with the dinner in New York with Bob and some of his team at VIA. We began to help them understand what we can offer them synergistically. So if you look back into a SPAC, day 1, you have no HR, you have no supply chain. You have no IP development, all of those things that Ideanomics can bring to the table, centralized marketing. So it wasn't just a case of capitalizing the company for VIA, but looking for a really strategic partner. And then you look beyond what they can get from a fully developed publicly listed company like Ideanomics in terms of internal support. You then look at the other companies in our group, okay, inductive charging, the grid augmentation and deployment capabilities with Prettl and the PEA investment we did recently. We have US Hybrid with its fuel cells and components. We have Solectrac with its EV tractors. This is a really compelling group that we put together at Ideanomics. And allowing us to get into this particular segment, which is the high-growth local delivery market that a lot of folks have got their eyes on, I think, was really compelling when you put everything together. Bob and his team know how to make exceptional vehicles. Okay? They've been doing it for many, many years. He's got teams from GM, Ford, Chrysler, et cetera, within his group. What they needed was a partner that could help them, allow them to focus on execution, because execution is going to be the difference between who gets market share and who doesn't. I think you saw with [ Rivian's ] IPO number on Friday, Craig. There's market disruption taking place right now. And with the companies that we put together and the capitalization that we have, we're a perfect fit for VIA versus a SPAC.

Craig Irwin

analyst
#11

So the second question I have is the earnout coverage, 40% on the base deal amount is fairly heavy and it's based on your 2026 forecast for VIA Motors, or I guess, theirs. I don't see the numbers anywhere in your presentation or the press release, but this is a pretty material piece of information for equity investors. Can you maybe share with us a little bit about your revenue and EBITDA expectations for VIA in 2026? And can you kind of help us shape how this company is supposed to develop over the next few years?

Alfred Poor

executive
#12

Yes, absolutely. It's a really good question. I'll take the first part of it, and then if Shane or Bob want to speak if I don't cover everything, feel free to. Obviously, we haven't shared any information today. VIA has got some very exciting propositions, some of them are available. It's information that's already in the market. We believe VIA's going to be one of the significant players in the space that they're in. But more broadly, I think if you take a step back, if you look at this deal, this is a high-growth area that's prime for market disruption. So there's a significant opportunity to capture revenue from 2023 onwards. You will see the numbers steady soon. They're going to be part of the proxy. The proxy that we will file for the shareholder approval will contain projections for both the Ideanomics business and the VIA business as well. But in terms of today, Craig, we're not prepped to be able to give you any further information.

Craig Irwin

analyst
#13

Okay. And then last question, if I may. You may ask me to wait for the proxy on this, but total capital invested to date at VIA, approximately how much have the management team there invested in the development of their vehicles?

Alfred Poor

executive
#14

Maybe Bob can answer that question. I mean I know roughly speaking. Bob?

Bob Purcell

executive
#15

Yes. To date, we have capitalized at about $250 million. And management is definitely involved in the funding of the company.

Operator

operator
#16

Our next question is coming from Mike Shlisky from D.A. Davidson.

Michael Shlisky

analyst
#17

Pardon the background noise. I'm on an airplane, foreign airplane, to -- in part comes to you over in California. So looking forward to that. Just I wanted to start on 2 quick ones on what VIA does or what the plan is? Will all their vehicles in the future use the inductive charging that you have at WAVE? Or is it going to be optional? Or like is it really -- is the plan to truly integrate the actual vehicles in every way to your existing products?

Alfred Poor

executive
#18

Yes. And I appreciate going on mute as you get your question out there. I'll be quick, so you get a chance to hear it before your flight takes off. It will really depend on customer demand. The capabilities to integrate different companies, whether it's WAVE or others, throughout our portfolio is of -- our divisions, I should say, is obviously compelling. That's the cross-pollination for sales is really interesting, but it will be based on customer demand. For those customers that are interested, and there are a lot of the local last-mile delivery and retail customers engaged with WAVE right now as well as with VIA. Obviously, there'll be a slam dunk. But for customers who don't choose to take it, then it will be an integration possibility.

Operator

operator
#19

[Operator Instructions] Our next question today is coming from Eddie Gibstein from Big Sky Opportunities.

Edward Gibstein

analyst
#20

Congratulations on the pending deal. Can somebody tell me what the current cap table is reflecting total shares outstanding for VIA that are part of this transaction? And I see, and I'm not sure how updated Yahoo! Finance is, it shows currently that there's approximately $400 million or so cash on Ideanomics' balance sheet. So this is not going to -- it's seemingly accordingly the $50 million that they're talking about investing take too significant amount of the cash that's currently on the balance sheet. Are you anticipating a potential funding? I know you can't really speak too much over the next 12 months to assist the new entity in its manufacturing needs.

Alfred Poor

executive
#21

Yes. Thank you very much for the question. There is a [ deck ] that's going to be -- it may have already been filed publicly, but we're filing publicly as a submission to the SEC that covers the transaction overview. We'll be issuing for the upfront around 162 million Ideanomics shares. That means that upon closing, the VIA shareholders will hold approximately 25% of the Ideanomics stock. The $50 million is an upfront investment into VIA. We will be looking to invest in them in the future. And whether or not we need to go out to the market for additional financing will really be dependent on order flow and on how fast that market develops. So we've certainly got the balance sheet to support them in the short and medium term. In the long term, they'll get as much cash as they need based on their growth trajectory.

Operator

operator
#22

Thank you. We reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any further or closing comments.

Tony Sklar

executive
#23

Thank you very much, Kevin. And again, once again, I'd like to thank all participants on the call today as well as Mr. Shane McMahon, our Chairman here at Ideanomics, Mr. Bob Purcell, the CEO of VIA Motors; and of course, Alf Poor, our CEO here at Ideanomics. This is all the time that we have for today, and this concludes the Ideanomics-VIA Acquisition Investors Call. We encourage our community to reach out to us, and we can answer any questions that you may have individually. Please send your questions to ir@ideanomics.com. We'd like to thank our listeners, stockholders, shareholders and analysts who have had the time to take to listen to the earnings -- to this call today. We are due to refer to our latest SEC filings for any information that you need. This call will be available on our website in the Investors section, and you will find the link there. To be alerted to news, events and other information in a timely manner, we recommend you following us on social media, sign up to our newsletter and explore our website at www.ideanomics.com and www.viamotors.com. Thank you, everyone, for participating on the call today.

Operator

operator
#24

Thank you. You may now disconnect, and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.

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