Illumina, Inc. (ILMN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 26, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Puneet Souda
analystAll right. I think we can get started. All right. I'm Puneet Souda, SVB Leerink tools and diagnostic analyst. And it's a pleasure to have Illumina with us today. Sam Samad from -- CFO at Illumina; and Jacquie Ross of Investor Relations with us today. Sam, you want to cover the safe harbor and we can jump into questions.
Sam Samad
executiveYes, gladly. And thank you, by the way. And good morning, everybody. I've been asked to remind you that my comments today could include forward-looking statements. You should refer to our SEC filings for a discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause the results to differ materially from our current expectations. It is our intent that all forward-looking statements regarding our financial results and commercial activity made during today's discussion will be protected under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. Great. So let's start with the quarter and the guide. Those have been primary questions from investors. You pointed to 1% growth in first quarter. And if we look at the history of Illumina, this -- as I recall, this one is the lowest quarters. There's a cadence here. There's a strong pickup in the back half. Tell us what's behind the first quarter. And then sort of what gives you confidence in the ramp in the second half?
Sam Samad
executiveSure. Thanks, Puneet. By the way, thanks for having us here. So let's talk about the guidance for the full year first, and this is going back to my Q1 comments back when we announced earnings for Q4. So I'll talk about the full year, and then I'll answer your questions around the guide for Q1. For the year, we're expecting -- for our last guide that we gave, we're expecting 9% to 11% full year guide. We're expecting EPS of $6.80 to $7. And within the 9% to 11% of full year revenue guide, we're expecting sequencing consumables at the midpoint to be approximately 17% growth year-over-year. We're expecting sequencing as a whole to be 14%, again at the midpoint. With regards to Q1 specifically, I mean, a few comments on that. First of all, Q1 represents approximately 22% of our full year revenues in terms of the actual contribution of Q1. When you go back to previous launch cycles, specifically, I'm referring to 2017 with NovaSeq, it's exactly aligned to previous launch cycle. So usually, when you have a launch cycle and you have instruments that launch in Q1, you'll have a ramp over the course of the year. That drives part of the fact why Q1 would be lower. The other reason, especially from a year-over-year standpoint, this year, when you think about the 1% that you commented on, which is essentially what our Q1 guide implies, is -- traditionally, in Q1, we've had strength coming from DTC. Specifically last year, we also had strength coming in -- from DTC in Q1 because you have a lot of the samples that get -- essentially the kits that get purchased at the end of the year that then get processed in Q1 of the following year. Well, this year, with all of the, I would say the weakness that's been experienced in DTC over the course of 2019 and that we're seeing, we don't see that bounce in Q1. And so from a year-over-year standpoint, that used to represent significant step-up that we don't see this year as well. So we're having an impact related to that. Q1 of last year, we still saw that. We're not seeing it in Q1 of 2020. And so that represents a headwind from a year-over-year standpoint.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. Got it. Want to then come back to the 9% to 10% sort of longer term. How to think about the long term for Illumina? Illumina has traditionally been a mid-teen sort of growth. The story, 6% growth there in 2019, 9% to 11%, as you've said, in 2020. Is 10% the right way to think about this? Or -- I mean how can you accelerate back to that mid-teens type of a number?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. So again, it's important to talk about the components of it. 6% is definitely not indicative of our long-term growth. I wouldn't say 6%, by any means, is -- as an indication of long-term growth. With regards to the 9% to 11%, again, look at the components of it. We have our core business, which is sequencing, which at the midpoint is expected to increase by 14%. Sequencing consumables, our recurring revenues, are expected at the midpoint to increase by 17%. We have had a significant impact, especially over last year and expected in 2020, from a headwind related to DTC and a reduction related to DTC. In 2018, DTC revenues represented approximately 8% of our revenues. In 2020, they're expected to represent about 3% of our revenues. So you can see the impact that, that's had in terms of -- as a headwind. So when you think about the core revenues, the core revenues this year are growing approximately -- or expected to grow approximately mid-teens. And that's, I think, more indicative of our core business. As the DTC business continues to decline, it becomes less of an impact overall on our overall revenue growth. It's still part of our business. We still own it. But it's part -- it becomes less of an impact in terms of overall revenues.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. Got it. And since we're on the DTC topic, what's your outlook there for longer term? And what does that market mean when you think about the population sequencing efforts that are happening around the world? And what does it -- does eventually population sequencing replace some of the DTC component in terms of offering that value? Or help us understand what's -- how are you thinking about DTC longer term.
Sam Samad
executiveYes. I mean we still see opportunity within that market segment. We still see opportunity, but it's going to take some time to evolve into a different market opportunity. And it's part of it. It's happening, but it's going to happen gradually. We don't expect that market to get back to growth this year. Let me emphasize that. Our expectation for microarrays this year, as part of our guide, is to be down 15% year-over-year. So that's not going to happen this year. And that 15% down, again, at the midpoint of our guide, is really driven all by DTC. Actually, DTC is decreasing significantly and our mature microarrays are roughly flat. But in -- getting back to your question, Puneet, around what's going to drive overall growth going forward, and how is that going to evolve maybe into population genomics, maybe into other initiatives, really, the key there is high-value health applications and, really, informative applications that drive the consumer to really own their information and to really act on their information more actively as they go forward. And so that evolution into health offerings, that evolution into pharmacogenomics, that evolution into other applications that really drive more insight about your genome and more action around those insights. That's -- that, I think, is how this market is going to evolve. It's probably going to evolve also in international markets as well, not just in the U.S. Now this is going to take time. We don't expect that this year. But we are still confident that eventually, as these applications start to mature and grow in terms of high-value health offerings, that this market has potential.
Puneet Souda
analystI want to come back to the NovaSeq installs. And sequencing system revenue guidance, I mean, looks aggressive for 2020 given the NovaSeq decline that you're implying there and somewhat -- that's somewhat reasonable given that, as you pointed out, the fourth year of the launch for NovaSeq then as a product cycle, what -- tell us how are you thinking about what helps you meet the systems revenue guidance?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. So first of all, let me talk a little bit about NovaSeq, and then I'll transition to how the parts will play out over 2020 and what drives the growth in sequencing instruments in 2020. First of all, NovaSeq is going incredibly well. The launch of NovaSeq has outpaced our expectations. It's going as we expected from a pacing standpoint. In terms of the growth of the instrument placements over time, we had growth in 2019. Fourth year of launch, the expectation is for NovaSeq placements to be down. I think that's really very much expected in an instrument cycle fourth year of launch. It's actually -- we talked about a protracted placement cycle, and that's exactly been the case with NovaSeq. Now as you get into the fourth year of launch, what's happened is you have the large, high-throughput-instrument customers that have transitioned or at least begun their transition. We've had multi-instrument placements over the course of '18, over the course of '19. In '19, we had the U.K. Biobank placements as well that were multi-instruments purchases as well. As you get into 2020 and you start getting into the -- maybe the lower-throughput HiSeq customers, you get more 1s and 2s in terms of placements. And so that drives that year-over-year decline in terms of instruments on NovaSeq, which is exactly the way we expected it to play out. But in fact, the NovaSeq launch has been the most successful instrument that we've had and has been an incredible launch. Now in terms of what drives the growth, obviously, NextSeq 2000 and 1000. So what you start to see is NextSeq 2000, which is available later in Q1, which will start to scale up over the course of the year. You have NextSeq 1000, which is available late in the year. That also contributes somewhat, but really most of the new instrument placements. So we're expecting 500 instrument placements in 2020 from NextSeq 2000 mostly, some 1000. What you also have is also the existing NextSeq. So when you think about the NextSeq portfolio overall, be it 2000, 1000, 500 and 550, which is the existing NextSeq, that portfolio is growing year-over-year as well. Because even though you have some decline on the NextSeq 500, 550 base, it's really a decline in the RUO base, but you have the NextSeqDx, the validated instrument. We had about 150 placements of those last year. That will continue -- we'll continue to see those placements in 2020. Not to give the actual number, but I mean those -- NextSeqDx customers continue to also place existing NextSeqDx. So overall, the NextSeq portfolio year-over-year is growing.
Puneet Souda
analystGot it. So on NextSeq, let's -- when you look -- and I get the 500 guide for the year. But when you look at the 2020 expectations, you have -- I mean when we look at the MiSeq installed base, that's about 7,400, the 3,600 NovaSeq -- sorry, not MiSeq, in NextSeq, 3,600 NextSeq installed base, total of 11,000 instruments sort of out there. When you think about maybe even a 10% penetration into this market, isn't that reasonable to assume that you could get that in the first year? I mean just because this is a new product launch, something that customers wanted and it does kind of fill the gap between the NextSeq, what used to be, and NovaSeq?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. I mean listen, it's an incredible product with incredible innovations. It's positioned to fit a certain portion and niche of the market or a certain segment of the market that's really slightly different than the MiSeq customer base. So I think you have to paint it maybe with a finer brush in terms of where the upgrades are coming from or where the new placements are coming from. So of the 500 NextSeq 2000, 1000 placements that we expect this year, I would say the majority of those, Puneet, are coming from NextSeq 500 and 550 RUO conversion. So the most -- most of those are coming from that customer base. It's customers that may be existing NextSeq customers or they want capacity upgrades. They're going to go to the NextSeq 2000 most likely because of the economics that it offers. Some might go to the NextSeq 1000 when it's available, but the majority will go to the NextSeq 2000. There will be some customers that are not doing sequencing today, new-to-Illumina customers, new-to-sequencing customers, that also purchase the 500. And that's part of our assumption is that, first, the big base is the 500, 550 RUO conversions. Then a smaller base, which is the new-to-Illumina customers. And then you have a small, I would say, few customers, be they HiSeq customers that decide to go to NextSeq 2000 or be they MiSeq customers that decide to go to NextSeq 1000 or 2000. That's a very small piece of the 500. The profile of MiSeq and the output that MiSeq delivers, the economics that MiSeq delivers is very different than NextSeq 2000. So it is a bit of a different customer base, not to say that there won't be some customers that decide to upgrade from MiSeq to NextSeq.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. Got it. So let's talk about population sequencing. It's a major market that's opening here, sizable promise, couple of efforts ongoing. Can you give us the status of where NHS stands and where the U.K. Biobank project is and All of Us and a number of myriad -- a number of efforts that are ongoing and sort of give us a sense of when can this market truly sort of catalyze. And what is needed to -- needed for that to happen in the marketplace?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. I mean I can talk all day about population genomics because it's such an exciting market, and I know it's close to your heart as well. But I'll try to capture the key pieces of -- the key moving parts here. First of all, let's talk about basics and maybe a little bit tactical in terms of what's included in our guide. What's included in our guide is that the U.K. Biobank is scaling at full capacity or production capacity. It actually started scaling up in Q3 of last year. Now it's in full production mode. So I don't think there's a lot of uncertainty around the U.K. Biobank. We're expecting 200,000 samples. Again, at the midpoint of our guide, 200,000 samples to be performed this year. In terms of the U.K. Biobank, I'd say very little uncertainty around it. With regards to other initiatives, you have the GeL collaboration that you talked about and our expectation is that, that starts. We've already signed at GeL. NHS have already signed this with the goal of performing 300,000 to 500,000 samples by 2025, and the expectation this year is that 20,000 samples get performed. It's not really very accretive from a year-to-year standpoint, but still want to be very clear in terms of what's included in our guidance. And then the last one, which I think has some uncertainty around it in terms of timing, although it's been announced, although the work's ongoing in terms of the regulatory approval part, which is the All of Us initiative, they announced a 1 million sample genotyping sequencing, but some genotyping over the course of 10 years. So we're assuming that in the middle of this year with 60,000 samples around it. And as I said, of the 3, that's the only one that still hasn't started and really has a little bit of uncertainty just given the fact that they're still in regulatory approval phase. So we wanted to be very transparent when we gave our guide around what's in the base. Everything else that's in our base is really ongoing. So very little uncertainty around it because it's ongoing and it's contributing. Now in terms of the broader question, Puneet, in terms of what this opportunity looks like and what it could become, I mean the way we categorize those, with the exception of GeL -- is a different one because GeL, we are doing the work in our -- the GeL labs that we have with the NHS. So we're performing the work. The GeL one is one that we're performing the work but it's really exciting because it's basically leading to sequencing being part of standard of care and leading to the adoption of sequencing in the clinics, in the NHS. So even though it's work that's being performed in terms of 300,000 to 500,000 samples over the course of the next 5 years, this could lead to touch millions and hundreds of millions in terms of where care is delivered. And this potentially has the -- these initiatives also have the potential ability to touch billions of people eventually as they blossom from population genomics initiatives to really getting to where the NHS is going in terms of getting to clinical care and sequencing being part of standard of care. That's not going to happen overnight. I don't want anybody to look at that as that's a 1-year, 2-year thing. That will develop over time. And that's why we have some of these other population genomics initiatives, like the All of Us, which is going to take time and which is going to generate lots of valuable insights; like the U.K. Biobank; like others that are out there. The NHS is the really, really important one in the sense that it's now leading to sequencing being incorporated into clinical care and having the propensity to touch really huge numbers of people.
Puneet Souda
analystSo one of the questions on that front is the visibility that you have into a number of these projects given that these are government projects, and there is sometimes infrastructure needed and a number of other things needed to sort of catalyze that. So what's your visibility in these samples truly sort of getting to the sequencer? Because that's the time when you get to generate revenue on those samples, right?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. I mean there's always uncertainty with these. And that's why our focus was to make sure that, first of all, we're cautious about the assumptions that we built into our projections. That's number one. So that's the approach that we took for 2020 is to be cautious around the projections. That's why I was very clear in terms of what's included in our projections. And really, where the -- where we feel the only uncertainty -- and it could be positive or it could be negative in the sense it could either happen earlier or it could get delayed, is the All of Us. So the short answer to your question is there's always going to be uncertainty with these things. There's always long lead times. Anytime you're dealing with governments, anybody that tells you I know exactly how this is going to play out and when it's going to play out is probably a bit shortsighted when it comes to that. But we wanted to be very clear in terms of what's included in our projections so that people understand what's built in.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. And I have to touch on this given the sort of the market we saw yesterday and the -- more questions around coronavirus. Just -- I know you didn't sort of include that into your guidance. But given the sort of 1% that we have in Q1 and what we are seeing more in terms of this potentially spreading a little bit more than what was expected, any changes in your view there or expected impact in Q1 or the full fiscal year?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. I mean, we're evaluating this closely as I'm sure a lot of people with any China exposure is. And China exposure isn't just the revenues that you have in China, but also the supply chain exposure that you might have. So we're definitely evaluating this closely. Listen, the main thing here is that we've been actively working on is making sure our employees are safe, making sure our customers are also -- they have what they need. They're safe, but they're also -- they have -- any instruments or consumables that they need, that they can also test for coronavirus because some of our reagents and instruments are used for it. And we are actually seeing, in fact, some customers ramping up some work on coronavirus. But at the end of the day, this will likely have an impact. It's having an impact in China in terms of people having access to be able to get to their place of work, to be able to go outside. This could have, especially if protracted, if this gets prolonged, this could have an impact on clinical testing in terms of people being able to do reproductive health or oncology testing. I mean the type of testing that gets done on our instruments in the clinic is usually pretty critical testing. It's not just routine or, really, things that you could avoid doing. But having said this, when there's access challenges to the clinic or to the hospital, it could have an impact. At this stage, it's early to tell. We'll obviously be giving more information. In terms of supply chain, Puneet, I mean that's the other thing that we're focused on. We have very limited exposure when it comes to China. We don't manufacture in China. In terms of distributing in China, getting product into China, we haven't had any exposure there or we haven't had any impact there. So we're very focused on getting product into China, as I mentioned. We've got distribution in China. We haven't had any impact. We have limited -- very limited exposure in terms of third-party suppliers that actually supply from China or that supply components out of China. And we have redundancies in the supply chain to address that. We have also safety stock, inventory on hand for a number of months to help us offset that. So on the supply chain, obviously, we're also evaluating closely, but we don't feel we have -- we have limited exposure from China.
Puneet Souda
analystGot it. Okay. Since we're on China, one key question that we frequently get is in terms of the competitive positioning in China. Just help us understand the sort of the long-term view of that competitive positioning given BGI, given a number of sort of unique factors that are associated with China.
Sam Samad
executiveSure. Yes. I mean let me talk about China specifically in terms of how we compete there in the market. So first of all, in terms of research, we compete very effectively in terms of research, still winning tenders and winning business there. In terms of clinical, we've been growing at a very, very fast pace in clinical in areas like oncology testing, in areas like NIPT, where BGI also competes. We've actually been gaining share in clinical, so competing really effectively. The fact of the matter is, Puneet, in terms of Illumina, the -- we have 15,000 instruments placed worldwide, instruments that are generating data, that generate insights, that have a certain record of reliability, accuracy and quality. Nobody has that. We have an ecosystem of not just instruments, but everything that goes with the instruments from library prep to sequencing to informatics, solutions at the tail end of the workflow, that is also validated. That has years of validated experience, so to speak. Nobody has that. We've got an infrastructure of commercial support, field support, customer service that really deals with everything that the customer has needs for, that also, nobody has that. So we are very, very bullish on our competitive positioning. That doesn't mean that we're not always mindful in keeping an eye on competition on companies like BGI or others for that matter. But we feel very, very proud and confident about our competitive positioning.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. I wanted to touch -- given the timing, let me touch on some CFO questions, if I could. With the NextSeq 2000 out in the market, what is your expectation on gross margin? Traditionally, when NovaSeq was launched, there was an expectation that, that new instrument would actually help you improve some and then potentially on -- maybe on consumables, too? So maybe help us understand, with the new chemistry here and a new product, what sort of improvement can we expect.
Sam Samad
executiveYes. I mean it's -- in general -- the short answer, but then I'll give you a little bit of color. The short answer is it's -- I would say it's definitely in line with our other instruments and other consumables. And so in terms of impact on margins, probably a modest positive impact, but in general, pretty much in line with the rest of the portfolio, Puneet. But with regards to instruments and reagents on newly launched instruments, usually, initially, you'll have a little bit of some additional costs, but then you start to scale up. And as you scale up production, you get more of a steady state of production. And so then gross margins increase over time as well. We expect that as well. And then don't forget that we're driving a lot of significant reductions in terms of cost per G to our customers and, at the same time, maintaining the profitability of our portfolio and our instruments. That talks to the innovations that go into the reagents and the production of our instruments as well.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. I want to touch on oncology, if I could. It's a major growth driver across the entire health care in terms of oncology, therapeutics coming to -- and oncology diagnostics benefiting in companion diagnostics and FDA approval. So when you look at this entire landscape, you have a unique vantage point here. What's your -- what's embedded into your sort of long-term outlook here? You could take a step back and look at this space kind of where we are and how it's evolved over the last 5 years. How are you looking at the next 5 years here?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. So tremendous opportunity, first of all. I'll answer it that way. Early innings, second of all. We're still very early in the stages of penetration of this opportunity, whether it's early screening, very early; therapy selection, a little bit more advanced but still early; recurrence monitoring, very early. So we've got tremendous opportunity. I mean the way we're addressing this opportunity is by looking at kind of a 3-pronged strategy, Puneet. First, enable our partners with our instruments, with our ecosystem to develop lab-developed tests on our instruments. The second one is to drive our own content on our instruments, things like TruSight Oncology 500, which is now available in the research space, will be available as an IVD eventually, by developing our own content, which is an end-to-end distributable diagnostic for some of those centers that need to do their own testing where cancer care is delivered, so that helps drive adoption. And then the third and final one is really partner with key players, such as the partnerships that we've had with the Qiagens, with Roche and that we announced in -- at JPMorgan, that really help also broaden the adoption and access of NGS in the clinical space.
Puneet Souda
analystGot it. Last one, if I could touch on capital allocation priorities post-PacBio termination. And how are you thinking about capital allocation, number one? Sort of number two, how is Illumina's thinking on long read at this point?
Sam Samad
executiveYes. Yes. So maybe I'll tackle the long-read one then move into capital allocation. Listen, long-read technology, we still believe, is an important technology. It's adjacent to short-read sequencing technology. It's complementary to it. We still think there's a lot of merit to long read, which is actually going to lead to increase in adoption in short-read sequencing. Because what long-read technology offers is, offers you access to some of those repetitive areas in the genome where you can actually get more insight. It can drive more research and clinical discovery, and it will lead to more applications and more access on the short-read side. There's nothing that counters today the scalability, the accuracy and the cost of short-read sequencing technology, but there's definitely a place for long read. So there's still going to be a lot of complementary applications that drive -- actually, will drive more applications on short read. So the way we're looking at it is we're focused on organic initiatives that we are developing. We're focused on also potentially -- we never preclude the potential to partner on long-read technology. With regards to capital allocation, 4 key things: First of all, organic development of early-stage technologies, of our new innovations, of making sure that we sustain the innovations that we have. So very focused on that investment that we make in R&D and continuing that investment, continuing to be differentiated in how we invest in R&D. The other one is really M&A. And by M&A, I mean, looking at the end-to-end workflow and how we can make sure that we reduce the barriers of adoption of sequencing, being it's in the -- being -- whether it's in the library prep stage or whether it's in the informatics stage. Anything that we can do -- I mean we did Edico 1.5 years ago or so. That's a good example of where we lowered the barriers of adoption of sequencing. And then we think about share repurchases. We just announced in the 10-K, a $750 million share repurchase authorization from our Board. Last year, we did approximately $325 million. So we're scaling up -- scaled up a bit the share repurchase authorization. And we think about debt management as well. I mean we have debt that comes due next year and 2023. So how we manage this debt is another focus of ours as well.
Puneet Souda
analystOkay. Well, that's all the time we have. Thank you again. Thanks, Sam. Thanks for being here.
Sam Samad
executiveThank you, Puneet. I really appreciate it.
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