IMPACT Silver Corp. (IPT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 24, 2023

TSX Venture Exchange CA Materials Metals and Mining earnings 21 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Jerry Huang

executive
#1

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to IMPACT Silver's Q1 2023 period ending March 31, 2023, Financial and Production Results Conference Call. Before we begin, we would like to go over our disclosure statements, followed by Mr. Fred Davidson's comments on the quarter's results and the Q&A period. Certain statements in the following conference call regarding IMPACT Silver's business operations may constitute forward-looking statements. Such statements are not historical facts but are predictions about the future, which inherently involves risk, uncertainties and could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. I would like to now turn it over to President and CEO of Impact Silver, Mr. Frederick Davidson.

Frederick Davidson

executive
#2

Thanks, Jerry. It's been a very interesting quarter. We succeeded in a number of our objectives during the quarter, in that we reported revenues of $5.1 million, and that represented a 10% improvement over revenue in the equivalent period last year. Part of that was the pricing, obviously. But I think more than anything, it was a combination of higher production levels and the addition of gold production, as we've been suggesting, part of our deposit does have a gold portion, and we're seeing some of that adding to it, which resulted in a 7% increase in revenue per tonne, up to $127 compared to $118 in the prior year. Overall, we saw that mine operating earnings before amortization, depletion, it was $0.6 million -- most of those costs related -- were related to the impact of inflation, but even more so, foreign exchange, and that is under IFRS. We have to report the foreign exchange conversion and it impacted pretty severely on that. Now it works the other way, of course, when the peso goes the other way. But right now, the peso is fairly strong. Average grade, as I said, was about 1.6 -- or rather 162 grams. And we're going to see that sort of balance off against the addition of gold. We're getting -- recovering gold, we're getting lower grades of silver. So in fact, what happens is the actual silver we're going to produce per grade isn't going to substantially increase, but we are going to see gold on top of that, and that's going to be obviously a multiple of the silver production. So we're looking forward to that continuing over the next year and hopefully increasing our throughput of the gold production. Overall, as I said, the costs were up to $111, almost $112 a tonne compared to $90 and a 6% -- only 6% of that was the inflation in Mexico. 18% was the foreign exchange. If we see the Mexican peso soften, we'll see that ratio change fairly dramatically. During the quarter, we spent about $0.8 million on exploration and development. The intention, obviously, is to expand the current resource that we're chasing. I'm supposed to call that mineral inventory. But at this point in time, it's a gradual process because we're chasing veins, not big structures. And so we add increments as opposed to dramatic tonnage. But it's looking strong, and we still had a cash position of about $14.3 million at the end of the quarter. And that was prior to our recently announced oversubscribed nonbrokered private placement for an additional $9 million. So financially, we've had over the last sort of 4 months of a very successful period of time. And operationally, we've hit most of the targets we want to hit. Unfortunately, we can't deal with FX, that's something beyond our control. But I think our team that the mine has to be congratulated on the effort they've gone to and going ahead. So the net loss for the period was only $0.3 million. And that's fairly impressive compared to a lot of our competitors are equivalent, if you will. Now the financing was designed to achieve certain things, and I'll get into that in a minute. The mill throughput, as I said, had increased up to 38.6,000 tonnes compared to 36,000 tonnes in Q1 '22. And I think we're going to see this gradually increase depending on where we might because sometimes when we're mining the areas like gold, which has a higher value per tonne, the actual tonnage might decrease because the veins there are pretty tight. But the end result is the ultimate throughput in terms of revenue is better off, and we're going to see some of that going forward, I think. As I said, the financing was done. We're quite pleased with it. We funded exploration in the quarter. We're going to fund continuing exploration. And we're looking forward to a program with the new acquisition, Plomosas, bringing it on as another producing mine, but more interest, more importantly, like Guadalupe, it's not just a producing mine. It's the exploration potential and Plomosas has excellent exploration potential. And one of the things we have to discuss about that is that so far, we -- the area has been probably explored only for about a seventh or so of the entire strike length of what appears to be the deposit. And even where we are mining right at the moment, it's open in all 4 directions. This is an incredibly high-grade zinc mine. But as importantly, it's what they call a carbon replacement deposit, CRD, and carbon replacement deposits are polymetallics. And polymetallics also produce other items such as silver, lead, gold, copper. And right now, with the high quality of the zinc production we get here running between 12%, 13% a tonne. Literally, the accompanying silver, which is a couple of ounces a tonne or free. Going forward, we expect to see other areas in it where there will be a higher percentage of -- for the silver. And we've even had indications, as I said before, of some copper and gold, which will be sort of looking for as an early-stage target. So production and again, exploration potential. And that's what we see as an important criteria going forward with Plomosas. That's our company, production and exploration.

Jerry Huang

executive
#3

Great. Thank you for the overview, Fred, for Q1 2023. Here are some of the questions we compiled from investors this quarter. Please feel free to in the future to send questions to inquiries@impactsilver.com or call us directly at +1 (778) 887-6489.

Jerry Huang

executive
#4

Question 1, great quarter, guys. Nice to see the increase from 400 to 430 tonnes per day at Guadalupe. Can investors expect similar increase level back to full capacity of 500 plus for the remaining quarters in 2023?

Frederick Davidson

executive
#5

We're not sure we'll get to full capacity, primarily because we're focusing in certain areas such as the gold, which the veins are fairly tight, but very high grade. So tonnage itself may not be the only criteria involved here. Our attitude is we want to maximize the value per tonne and the overall value that we produce. So we're going to focus on those. So again, the tonnage again may not rise to our ultimate tonnage, but that's only because we're mining more gold. So I want to apologize to anybody at that point.

Jerry Huang

executive
#6

Okay. Question 2, grade increased to 162 gram per tonne. This quarter, as you alluded to earlier, we, as investors, expecting a higher grade across the board despite roughly the same level of tonnage.

Frederick Davidson

executive
#7

That's again, a valid question. And actually, I think I alluded to it. The issue we've got, and when we report grade of silver, it's the silver grade only. It's not an equivalent. And when we're producing from an areas that have some gold, we find that the grades tend to be a little lower because they're sort of -- it's a [ layer cake of deposit ], where we'll see gold occurring at depth compared to the silver, lead, zinc. So when we're down in mining at what would be a gold vein, we're getting less silver. So the grade overall may not increase, but the equivalent unless this -- I hesitate to use that word silver equivalent -- we can live with that. What we are getting hit with is, for some reason, the Mexican peso and maybe this is the onshoring process that's been advertised so extensively is basically changing the FX, the foreign exchange, especially with the Canadian dollar. So what we really saw was the impact of that foreign exchange on the balance sheet of the company and hence, the income of the company. I mean you can look at our comprehensive income for the period, and it was actually significantly positive. And that's a reflection of the impact of FX, primarily.

Jerry Huang

executive
#8

Okay. Question 4, timeline on Plomosas. This has been asked in the previous quarter. After the acquisition, just to keep a note, how is the acquisition closing been going? What kind of timeline can investors expect on exploration news and development news from this new asset? And lastly, when will restart of cash flow and production be?

Frederick Davidson

executive
#9

Fair question. The acquisition has closed, obviously. There are some issues with the underlying quality of the information, i.e., the accounting, et cetera, that the predecessor group maintained. And it's basically a rule of our sleeves and clean it up process, and that's taking quite a bit of time. On the operating side, -- many of the things we anticipate and we anticipated, I think we've had a number of surprises, let's put it that way. I think we're pretty well where we expect to be. The number of things we're doing, rebuilding a portion of the mill. We've moved the ball mill because it was on broken foundations. We're moving the electrics down where you're working on the tailings pond. I can go on, there was over 21 major projects going on at the moment. I think we're going to be pretty well on time, and that is we figured somewhere around 60 to 90 days for the first phase of getting things back to where they should start. And basically, we're looking out 7 months or so to where production will start to surpass what they were doing in the past. And we're sort of focusing that by the end of the year, we should be doing sort of at least 50% to 70% more than what the predecessor company was doing daily. And by next year, we're hoping to be up into the 200-plus tonnes a day with a little bit of luck and timing. The one thing that may slow us down is we are changing the mining method. They were using what they call room-and-pillar, and what happens with room-and-pillars, you're using major support to hold the roof up, and you're leaving a lot of valuable ore sitting in those pillars, which you can never get. And we're going to change our mining method in certain areas where we get 100% recovery and not 75% recovery. So that process may slow us down in the feed, but ultimately lead to higher recoveries and actually lower cost per tonne.

Jerry Huang

executive
#10

Great. So leading on from that question. Question 5 is what kind of run rates can investors expect in Plomosas from 2023 and roughly 2024?

Frederick Davidson

executive
#11

Okay. 2023 is going to be, if you will, experimental. I think I alluded to what we'd get up to maybe 150 tonnes a day, maybe 125 tonnes a day. Part of that is doing our metallurgy part of that is modifying the mill as we go and part of that is modifying the mining technique as we go forward. By 2024, we're hoping to focus on about 200 tonnes a day, and that will be then when we enter our second phase and the second phase will be designed to increase the throughput again. Now it could take 6 months to a year at that point in time to get it up another 50%. So that's going to take a little while. But it's -- the nice thing about it, we're dealing with some of the highest grade zinc mines, one of the highest-grade zinc mines in the world. So you've got a little bit of leverage as you go forward. The other side of this, and I've got to emphasize is that we're going to be fairly aggressive on exploration here. And the expiration is outstanding. It's -- basically, it just hasn't been challenged. There's a lot of potential, there's a lot of high-grade material, and we're looking at 2 things. Are we going to be sort of an intermediate-sized mine producing good grade material? Or are we going to be something dramatically larger in the sense that we find a deposit is much bigger than anticipated. And with the grades we've got, it becomes very significant. So that's the home run type of thing that obviously, everybody hopes for. But at this stage, it's got to be -- we've got to spend some serious time and money looking for the potential here, and that's what we will be doing next year.

Jerry Huang

executive
#12

Okay. Perfect. That kind of leads into the next question. Question 6, congrats on the financing recently, well timed and well executed. What's the expected use of proceeds and specifically about exploration, will IMPACT be drilling more than 20,000 meters versus the last few years?

Frederick Davidson

executive
#13

I think we'll probably drill about 20,000 meters. Part of that's going to be focused at Plomosas. And part of that is going to be chasing targets we have at Zacualpan. It's one of those things we do. Once you get beyond that, the logistics get a little difficult; a, have you got enough competent geologists to look at the core when it comes up to make the decisions. The core cutting in the assay, the sampling and the interpretation too often, you end up drilling a whole program before you get the assays and that really doesn't allow a lot of perspective on what you've done. So we're hoping to be a little more patient about it. For instance, we're drilling one project at Zacualpan right now. Ultimately, we think it's going to be about a 10 whole program. We're stopping at 5, get all the results in, reinterpret and then go complete the balance of the 5. Meanwhile, the drill will go to another site. So maybe a little more balanced. We're not rushed. We've got high-quality targets. We've got high-quality production.

Jerry Huang

executive
#14

Okay. Question 7, given 17-plus years of operations and longer with the team of IMPACT in Mexico, what is your take on recent mining law changes? And how will that affect the 2 operations in Mexico?

Frederick Davidson

executive
#15

Well, that's a question I'm hard pressed to answer. There are certain aspects of the legislation that we understand that are not allowed to be retroactive. And I believe that refers to things like concessions, et cetera. There are certain aspects of the legislation, which talks about environmental and social issues. And we've always supported that type of issue. So I think some of it is perhaps you all considered or not -- or drafted by people who are not very knowledgeable, let's put it that way. But we don't object to some of that at all. And in fact, I think we're ahead of them on some other things they designate. How will it affect us? We don't know. Right now, people are filing what they call them [indiscernible] and that includes the government -- the Congress rather, that includes major companies, [indiscernible]. And what they are is asking the Supreme Court to reconsider some of the legislation because it offense the constitution of Mexico, it offense what is the Replacement Act for the North American free trade agreement. There's a bunch of things. So it's up in the air. That's the trend we're seeing, unfortunately, throughout all of Latin America and many African states where legislation is put in place, maybe rushed or ill considered. I'm not sure even if the legislation will pass, and what our understanding it will be going to the Supreme Court who are challenging the legality of the legislation in the first place. But our job is to recognize what could potentially be the issues and address them and we will.

Jerry Huang

executive
#16

Okay. Last question. With Plomosas and obviously, increased exploration expansion, taking time and resource from some of the other assets, what is the plan for Capire that's been in discussion in the last few quarters?

Frederick Davidson

executive
#17

Yes, that's fair enough. Capire is sort of the second sister to Plomosas, and that Plomosas has incredibly high grades, and it's in a very mining-friendly location. It's got a lot of things going forward. It's -- right now, our knowledge of the deposit suggested it's substantially larger and higher grade. So obviously, it's going to have our focus for the next while. Capire is a little more price-sensitive, grade sensitive, and it's one of those on its own is a stand-alone operation. The CapEx isn't substantially different in terms of price. And we're seeing the price of some of the metals at Capire jump up and down. The variances are huge. So until we're comfortable with the price or until we can do something such as hedge or sell forward a position there, Capire has to be second to Plomosas. And at the right time, right place, we'll press the button and go for it. But at this point in time, it has to wait.

Jerry Huang

executive
#18

Okay. Great. That's all the questions we have for this quarter. We thank everyone for joining us for Q1 2023 financial and production results for IMPACT Silver Corp. Again, if you have any further questions or inquiries, please feel free to send us an e-mail or a question to inquiries@impactsilver.com, or call us directly at +1 (778) 887-6489. You can always visit www.impactsilver.com, or checkout on Twitter and various social media platforms under IMPACT underscore Silver. We thank you for your attention, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you.

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