Incyte Corporation (INCY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 10, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Tazeen Ahmad
analystGood morning, and thanks for joining us again here at the Bank of America Healthcare Conference. I'm Tazeen Ahmad. I'm one of the senior SMID biotech analysts here. Our next presenting company is Incyte. And sitting up here on stage with me are two members of the management team. To my right is Christiana Stamoulis, who is Executive VP and CFO; and to my left is Steven Stein, who is Chief Medical Officer. Christiana and Steven, good morning, and thanks for making the trip out West.
Steven Stein
executiveGood morning.
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveGood Morning. And thank you for inviting us.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystSo I think Incyte is a pretty well established company, but just for formality, maybe you can talk about the company for about two minutes, and then we can go straight into Q&A.
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveYes, absolutely. So Incyte is a company that has been going through significant transformation when you look over the last 5 years. If you think back in 2017, we were a company focusing on oncology with two commercialized assets and around $1.5 billion of revenues. Fast forward to today, five years later, we have eight commercial-stage programs approved for multiple indications, most of them in two therapeutic areas in oncology and more recently in dermatology with Opzelura. We have a broader geographic footprint with commercialized assets in the U.S., Europe and Japan and the revenues that have more than doubled during that five-year period to $3.2 billion annual revenues this past year in 2022. And that growth doesn't even reflect any meaningful contribution coming from Opzelura, which is our derm -- first derm product that we got approved for atopic dermatitis almost 1.5 years ago and for vitiligo less than a year ago. And we recently got approval for vitiligo in Europe, and we are preparing to commercialize or launch in the first country in Europe, Germany, by the end of this month. So there is a lot of growth still coming from our already commercialized assets and especially Opzelura that we are very excited about. In addition, we have a very rich and exciting pipeline with a number of high potential products both in dermatology and in oncology that we are looking at as potential future growth -- revenue growth and revenue diversification drivers. When you look at the dermatology pipeline, I would highlight two programs that are very exciting for Incyte. One is Opzelura, where we are expanding it by developing it for additional indications. And that's a way to maximize the potential and the potential value that we see in the program. And the second is povorcitinib that we are moving into registrational studies for HS and vitiligo, a very -- another very exciting program for us. So we will spend more time discussing in dermatology any significant future growth driver for the company. In Oncology, we have the programs that are focusing on improving over Jakafi in MDS, especially MF, and these include ALK2 and our BET inhibitor, both are in development, and we are looking for additional data later this year and for moving -- progressing this, hopefully, to later stage of development. Our program, axatilimab, that is for GVHD, we expect data mid of this year. And then we are initiating clinical development of our mutant CALR program also for MF. So a lot happening under the MDS umbrella. And then in other oncology programs, one that is worth highlighting is the oral PD-L1 program, where we are again expecting data later this year. We already have shown efficacy and an attractive safety profile with this program. This is the first oral PD-L1 to be developed, and we are looking to expand development and proceed with combination studies later this year. So that gives you a good overview of what's going on at Incyte.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystYes. So let's try to go through some of these in a little bit more detail. So let's start with your current commercial products. With Jakafi maybe, that's now a quite mature asset. You're approved in multiple different indications. It's a steady Eddie in terms of the revenue contribution that it makes. Can you talk about where you think the remaining legs of growth are either by indication or just by opportunity dollar-wise for upside from relative trends this year? And maybe you can wrap that in with how you got to your sales guide for this year, too?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveSo when you look at Jakafi, even though it's a program that we have commercialized for a number of years, there is still continued growth in the product run where we recently announced our Q1 results, and we saw that the new patient starts continue to grow at 8% year-over-year. And the growth came across all indications. So we saw growth in MF, PV and GVHD. So the fundamentals of Jakafi continue to be very strong. The growth of the program continues to be very strong across all indications. When you think about each one of those indications, in MF, there are around 18,000 patients that are eligible for Jakafi. And currently 55% of those patients are on Jakafi, and 25% of those patients right now are not treated. They take a more watch-and-wait approach. So you can see that there is growth left in MF, even though we have a very nice share already of the patients eligible for Jakafi. In PV, there are around 25,000 patients eligible for Jakafi. We have 25% of those patients that are currently treated with Jakafi. And so there is significant growth still remaining in PV. And PV patients tend to be the ones that stay on Jakafi are treated for a much longer period of time. And then finally, GVHD, there, you have at around 25 -- 400 patients with acute GVHD and around 14,000 patients with chronic GVHD. And when we look at Jakafi, at around 4,500 patients currently are on Jakafi. So again significant growth potential in GVHD as well. In terms of the guidance and the guidance we have provided is assumed growth -- continued growth across all the indications, and it assumes a gross to net at around 23% average for the year. It is a range. We always provide a range of around $100 million between the low and the high end, especially earlier in the year. When we look at the midpoint of the range and the high end point of the range, they imply incremental revenues of $180 million to $220 million over last year. And when you look at historical data, how much incremental revenue we get year-over-year, so along the same lines. Also, given the performance of Jakafi in the first quarter of the year and the strong growth that we have seen in demand in new patient growth, we actually increased the low end of our guidance range by $20 million to that new guidance range of $2.55 billion to $2.63 billion for the year.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystGiven that sales are clearly well beyond the definition of blockbuster, I think the pushback that we tend to get when we talk to investors about Jakafi per se is the upcoming IP expiration later this decade. How does Incyte think about what sales will look like post that expiration? And what do you think could be mechanisms by which that tail can be extended out even by a few years into the early 2030s, let's say?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveSo when we look at the revenue curve for the company and for Jakafi and how we extend beyond Jakafi, we are not looking only at the programs that we're developing to improve over Jakafi, but we're looking at the overall portfolio. So there are programs already that are commercialized like Opzelura that are going to be one of the drivers of future growth and the drivers for extending the revenue curve beyond their [ partner experience ] with Jakafi when there are a number of different programs that are improving over Jakafi, specifically for MF and MDS. And then there are other programs that we are looking to get to market before the pandemic period that again would contribute to revenue and continue to drive that growth curve and fill any gap that may have been left once you take the new product that will be improving over Jakafi and extend that Jakafi-specific curve. Steven, you may want to comment on the programs, especially the [indiscernible] related ones.
Steven Stein
executiveYes. So it's sort of part of this LIMBER effort. There are two important ones within the myelofibrosis space. So one is the BET program. BET clearly is an active agent in myelofibrosis, both in terms of spleen reduction and symptom improvement. We'll have a recommended Phase II dose of the RUX by the end of this year and declare where we go in terms of regulatory path. And then the ALK2 program is a completely different MoA. It's about addressing the anemia of both the underlying disease of myelofibrosis plus the drug-induced anemia from JAK inhibition. Again, in dose escalation at the moment, we've seen Hepcidin decreases hemoglobin improvements. We can keep dose-escalating same sort of time frame, declare dose towards the end of this year and a registration path there. And then the other effort that's going only into the clinic this year but has enormous promise if it's safe and works is mutant CALR. So it will be first in class there. It's about 1/3 of MF, about 1/3 of ET. It could be completely disease-modifying for those patients with mutant CALR mutation. And then just as part of LIMBER includes graft-versus-host disease for us. Axatilimab will deliver its data in the middle of this year in terms of third line graft-versus-host disease. And then we haven't given up on RUX XR. We'll continue to address the deficiencies the FDA found, and we can get that in well within the exploration date in terms of getting that across the finish line as long as we address the issues there.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystOkay. So I mean, you've talked about a lot of programs. Is it the right assumption to make then that you would like to address any drop-offs in expected Jakafi sales in the future with your own pipeline advancements rather than through biz dev?
Steven Stein
executiveI mean Christiana can talk about biz dev. I mean the promise of all of -- so BET is about improving efficacy in terms of spleen and symptoms. ALK's addressing the anemia component, so that's potentially a huge news. Christiana said, in MF, currently, there are about 18,000 patients in the U.S. RUX is used in about 55% of them. So there's opportunity in that. In PV, as Christiana said, the current penetration is about 1 -- 25% of the 25,000, again, opportunity there. So yes, absolutely. In terms of BD, LIMBER is one area we'll always look at.
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveYes, absolutely. We are looking at BD as a way to supplement our internal portfolio and activities. So we always look for interesting assets that will fit well, not just within the inter, but the other areas of focus, broader oncology as well as dermatology. We don't rely on BD to continue to grow as a company. And it's good not to defend on business development. We have our internal growth engine, but also we can supplement with external opportunities. And we have the ability. We have the cash position and a strong balance sheet to be able to do that.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystYes, in some of my conversations with investors, I think people have brought up things related to LIMBER. So companies that might have had profiles that could have been complementary to Jakafi, like Sierra, like Imago or anything related to that. Now I mean -- I'm sure you have a team that looks at everything that's out there. But what is the hurdle that Incyte believes needs to be achieved in order to make an acquisition of an external asset worthwhile relative to the investments that you're making in your own pipeline?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveWe need to believe in the science. We need to believe on the profile of the product and the ability to really address -- successfully address a need. And then we also need to make sure that it makes sense from a valuation point of view. You mentioned a couple of companies, the one has an LSD1 program. We have our own LSD1 program, which we stopped. We didn't see this as a mechanism that makes sense. And Sierra is [indiscernible] we feel that we have programs in our internal pipeline that we are more excited about. So the need to also, on a relative basis, do what programs we have internally to be attractive.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystYes, of course. And then, I guess, related to that, how do you balance the need to want to invest in your own pipeline that you're excited about, while also making sure that you have a robust mid- to late-stage group of assets that can keep investors excited and bring in new investors?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveSo we do have what we view some very promising mid-stage assets in our pipeline. But we are always looking to see the additional assets that we can bring in. But when you look at programs like Opzelura, Povorcitinib, these are programs that will be potentially coming to market, whether it is additional indications or getting approvals with Povorcitinib as a new drug over the, I would say, next few years way before the patent expiry of Jakafi. So I think these -- and some of the other programs fall very nicely within that mid-stage type of category that we indicated.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystYes. So on the topic of Opzelura, let's spend a couple of minutes on that. So the -- it's a RUX cream that's launched in 2 skin indications, AD and Vitiligo. And the very initial trajectory of the launch last year indicated as Dr. Chak said, that there is a lot of interest in using the product. I think always in the background, there is a question of what gross to net will end up looking like. And I think based on the commentary that your team makes, that is something that you pay very close attention to, you die to it every year. At what point does gross to net become less of an effort to have to reset every year in order to achieve a target goal?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveSo when you look at the gross to net last year, gross to net improved dramatically through the year until we go to that exit rate of at around 50%. And that was driven by the expanded coverage. So we had our contracts with PBMs in place, then we expanded the coverage -- the payer coverage by getting additional plants under those PBMs covering Opzelura, and that translated into this improvement in gross to net. So the coverage and a lot of work behind the coverage is already in place. The PBM contracts are -- tend to be multiyear contracts. The Opzelura is now on formularies for the majority of plants. Obviously, we'll continue to work with plants to make sure that Opzelura is on formulary and is well positioned within the formulary and the co-pay levels are appropriate and improved over time. But a lot of our focus is now shifting on continuing to drive demand, both for AD and for Vitiligo. The gross to net, as we said, we expect that the average for the year would be at around 50%. You saw an increase in Q1, that very much was driven by Q1 specific dynamics that you see across products and across the years. You see Q1 always being the high year for gross to net. We expect that now to gradually come down and again, average around 50% for the year. But what we are very much focusing is continuing to drive the uptake in both AD and Vitiligo. Vitiligo is the newest indication. Both of them are very new, but Vitiligo, we got the approval less than a year ago. It's a very exciting indication given that there is no other therapy that has been approved for pigmentation. There is a very big unmet need. It's also a significant size opportunity. There are at around 1.5 million patients in the U.S. who have Vitiligo. And in the past, only 10% of those patients have been seeking treatment because there was nothing that could help them with -- really help them with repigmentation except to a certain extent, phototherapy. So now we are looking at not only getting those patients that had been actively looking for a treatment on Opzelura, but also activate the 90% of patients that in the past were not seeking treatment. And we see this as a very big opportunity. In AD, we have talked about in the past that we expect patients to be using 2 to 3 tubes a year given how Opzelura is used. In Vitiligo, it's continuous usage over a long period of time, and we expect patients on average to be using around 10 tubes a year. So you can see how a Vitiligo patient with 10 tubes on average a year results in a much higher revenue contribution than in AD patients. So obviously, getting Vitiligo patients on therapy and getting them to stay on therapy, it would be important. We see, first of all, the actively seeking treatment patients that to come on into -- to seek treatment. But we expect, and we are doing a lot of activities to activate the rest of the population. And given the 10 tubes a year, given the 50% gross to net on the price of Opzelura, you can see how 10,000 patients who will translate into around $100 million in revenues. And here, we are talking about 1.5 million patients. So even the -- just looking at the active population of 150,000 patients, you can see how quickly you can get to a very big opportunity.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystSure. And I guess, based on the math that you have, how does the payer mix come in? Because I think there was some commentary about Medicaid not necessarily being higher than expected, but just coming into your expected level faster than you expected?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveYes, exactly. The Medicaid contribution into the mix was expected. What we didn't expect it was how rapidly they cover the Opzelura, which is great there because how rapidly the uptake was.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystIs it because of AD or Vitiligo?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveSo we see broad coverage in both. Right now, the data is more limited. So we cannot really comment on the breakdown. But it was great to see that rapid uptake. But obviously, it impacted Q1 more because of how faster the uptake was relative to what we were expecting.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystRight. So with that impact in hand, are you expecting, without guiding directionally, what the second and third quarters of the year would look like? And do you have a sense for seasonality at all because you've only really been on the market for about 1 year or so?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveYes. We don't expect seasonality for Vitiligo. For AD, there have been some comments in the past that there may be some seasonality. Steven, you may want to comment on this, but we do expect in terms of the gross to net to come down gradually through the course of the year because of the Q1-specific dynamics that we talked about.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystSo maybe just a general question about the split that you expect longer term between AD and Vitiligo, I think people are really interested in that. It's interesting because AD technically has different drug options, albeit not necessarily for the same targeted population whereas Vitiligo has nothing. So is it correct to think that Vitiligo will be the bigger of the 2?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveWe see both as a significant opportunity. In AD, sure, there are other treatments, but the hallmark characteristic of Opzelura is a very rapid itch relief. So you see itch relief actually with some data that we have shared within minutes. And I think Opzelura is the only drug that is providing that type of relief, which is very important and very needed by the patients. And Vitiligo to your point, is the only therapy available for -- Opzelura is the only therapy available for Vitiligo. So there is a different nature of mix. So we think both are going to be significant opportunities.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystSo what is the initial metrics on Vitiligo telling you like who are doctors initially prescribing to?
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveAgain, very early to say. Right now, we have only a few quarters of data, but we believe that the first patients that get prescribed are the ones that have been actively seeking treatment that have Vitiligo in areas that are exposed, that can be see; face, hands, et cetera. And then we expect that we'll start seeing more of the inactive patients to come in. Logistically, also, it takes some time for those patients. It's not just that they need to become aware that now there is a therapy available for repigmentation, but they need to get an appointment with their doctors. A derm appointment can take 6 months to take place. So it takes some time before we see that broader population start to come in.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystMaybe few minutes we have left. Steven, can we talk about the LIMBER updates that are expected later this year. The company has obviously talked about the importance of that for a number of reasons. But what are the updates for LIMBER per se would Incyte be particularly excited about?
Steven Stein
executiveYes. We should have designed all the programs. So both BET and ALK2 will have more substantive dose escalation data that we'll present at the end of the year at a major medical meeting. And then also, hopefully, end of the year, early next year, indicate the registrational paths for both those programs. Mutant CALR will go into the clinic very soon. I'm not sure we'll have the opportunity to have a public data presentation, but we may be able to communicate in an appropriate forum. Once it goes into man, is it safe, firstly, in terms of not affecting normal hematopoiesis. And because of its mechanism of action, we can very quickly get a readout on allele burden. In terms of CALR, allele burden we can measure. And then as Christiana alluded to, the Axatilimab registration study, AGAVE-201, will report out in the middle of this year. It's a product we licensed from Syndax. So you'll hopefully see positive press releases in that regard. And then if the timing works, we'd like to get a BLA in right around the end of the year, should it be a positive study. So those are, I think, the LIMBER updates that will include medical data presentations plus potentially press releases as well. It's an important year for us.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystWhich of those could be size-wise the biggest?
Steven Stein
executiveHere, if you have to look long term in some crystal ball, if CALR works the way it looks preclinically, it will be 1/3 of MF and 1/3 of ET and it will be potentially disease-modifying "care." So that, in the long term, if it pans out to what it preclinically looks at, is a huge opportunity, not to take away from BET and ALK in terms of its opportunities in myelofibrosis. And then Axatilimab initially will be third-line graft-versus-host disease. But ultimately, its promise maybe in combination with RUX earlier in the treatment paradigm. But the biggest would be CALR if it hits the way we want it to.
Tazeen Ahmad
analystOkay. Perfect. With that, I think we're out of time for today. Thank you both so much for coming and presenting for Incyte . There's a lot going on. We're going to be looking forward to your updates in the second half of the year, and I'm sure we'll talk before that. So thanks, everyone, for joining us this morning. Really appreciate it.
Steven Stein
executiveThank you.
Christiana Stamoulis
executiveThank you, Tazeen.
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