Indivior Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (INDV) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 12, 2022

US conference_presentation 27 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#1

Everyone, and thank you for joining us for this session of the Morgan Stanley Healthcare Conference. My name is Thibault. I am part of the Pharmaceutical Equity Research team based in London. So before we start, I need to refer to important disclosures. Please see the Morgan Stanley research as website at www.morganstanley.com/research disclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Services representative. So for this session, I'm delighted to have with me Mark Crossley, CEO of Indivior. Mark, thank you very much for joining us today. So we will shortly do a Q&A, and I will invest -- I will invite investors in the room to ask questions if you wish. But before that, Mark, would you start -- would you like to start with some informatory comments, maybe another view on the current situation and the outlook for Indivior.

Mark Crossley

executive
#2

Sure. Just a brief intro for those that aren't as familiar with Indivior. Indivior has been a company really leading in addiction for over 20 years, really focused on helping these patients who are marginalized and really losing their lives because of their relationship with opioids. We operate in 40 countries, but the largest country is obviously the U.S., which has been disproportionately impacted by the opioid epidemic. And as we know recently, we see it in the press every day with the various changes in the space from COVID to fentanyl, the instances of abuse have picked back up, the instances of overdoses have picked back up. And we're focused on helping patients through this journey. Now we have very clear strategic priorities that we're using to drive the business and communicate with investors to make sure there's no misalignment. Those -- the first one is taking SUBLOCADE, which is our premier paradigm-shifting treatment and getting that to $1 billion plus in revenue. The second is to diversify. We're primarily a buprenorphine molecule sort of business. And we're looking to diversify both with products, and that's with PERSERIS in the U.S. for schizophrenia as well as geographically, and that's taking SUBLOCADE and film outside the U.S. to provide that diversification side. Diversification also could be via business development in the future. We build and develop and progress our pipeline is another key element. We brought in a recent asset last year for cannabis use disorder. And then the last strategic pillar is about optimizing our model. And that's from our commercial go-to-market model to capital allocation to P&L discipline in the business. And I think you've seen that at work with bringing in cannabis use disorder assets investing behind SUBLOCADE across all of our strategic priorities, but also returning a bit of capital to shareholders to buybacks $100 million each and looking to diversify our listing by bringing a listing to the U.S. We've just announced that we're going to be going to our shareholder vote at the end of September for that, and we're excited to have the potential for both FTSE as well as a U.S. listing in the future to bring more exposure to Indivior, but also to this disease space. So excited about the future. I think from a management team, we'd love the momentum we're bringing into this year, but we're just as excited about the journey ahead and how we can help patients.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#3

That's very clear. Maybe just before we start on the details of your business. Could you just give us maybe a bit of overview on the latest data and the latest trend on the U.S. opioid crisis because, obviously, your business is very intertwined with the evolution of the epidemic in the U.S. and to a lesser extent, outside of the U.S. So if you could give us a very high-level idea of how things are evolving at the moment.

Mark Crossley

executive
#4

No, it's actually really scary if you think about what's happening in the U.S., a very developed country with a very good health care system. And the other at epidemic is just disproportionately impacted us. It's why 80% of our revenue is here is because the U.S. has been impacted so much. There's 10 million people in the U.S. who abuse opioids. Only 3 million or so have been diagnosed with opioid use disorder and at any one point in time, only 1.2 million are in treatment. So you've got a major treatment gap of about 80%. At the same time, as you've had this epidemic going for over 20 years. And recently, you've had a couple of influences that have been what I consider to be almost like a match to gasoline in reaccelerating the epidemic. The first one is COVID. Our patients are really impacted through isolation, stress events, financial pressures, those sorts of things. So COVID really accelerated addiction rates and overdose rates as has the introduction of fentanyl into the supply chain for opioid use disorder. For those that don't know, fentanyl is like 30 to 50x more powerful than heroin or OxyContin pills. And it has become the drug of choice for those bringing in illicit drugs into the U.S. because it's cheaper to make. They can cut it in and it's very, very potent. And so we've seen an influx at what started with China. Now it's coming from South America into the U.S. And because of the potency, because if it's cut in wrong, it can drive you into respiratory depression. We've seen overdoses increase to where we had over 80,000 opioid overdose deaths last year. If you think about that, that's over 200 from a weekly standpoint, and over an hour -- I mean, excuse me, 200 a day and over 9 an hour, which is just absolutely crazy with regard to the U.S. So this fentanyl epidemic is really clear. And we'll talk a little bit probably, I imagine we'll have some discussion on SUBLOCADE later about how we've developed science and a medication that we think can be helpful in that recent development in the disease.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#5

Absolutely. And just before we touched on SUBLOCADE. Could you just talk a little bit about the recent U.S. rates on the provision in the inflation Reduction Act. So if you could provide us with your thoughts on the U.S. prescription broad pricing provisions in this reform. Are there any major consequences for your business from the different elements of the results, such as the shrinking coverage gap, for example?

Mark Crossley

executive
#6

Certainly. So I think this was passed by the administration in the middle of August. It's primarily related to Medicare. And so for those not as familiar with the U.S. health care system, Medicare is for people over 65 and for those that are disabled or as Medicaid is for low income. As we project forward on this one that's impacting Medicare, you look to where there's about 60 medications that we expect to be impacted on this by 2029, of which we don't expect any of our products to be there, whether on the schizophrenia or the OUD side. Also, when you look at our patient profile, our patient profile because of the nature of the disease, tends to be more on the Medicaid side and the commercial side. And many of those already have one element of the act. So there's one that would have negotiated prices on certain usages. We don't think we'll apply. The other one is having CPI CAP on the medications. And we're used to that already operating in Medicaid and with many of our commercial contracts. So we see minimal impact.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#7

[indiscernible] let's move on to SUBLOCADE, which is your monthly injectable formulation of buprenorphine with [indiscernible]. So you are currently rolling out this injectable treatment on disease order in the U.S. And I think a lot of investors have been surprised by the strength and the consistency of the growth over the past 2 years. So could you give us a little bit more insight into the key drivers behind this growth?

Mark Crossley

executive
#8

Sure. Thanks, Thibault. And listen, this is something I'm extremely proud of the team. We went through a reorganization in fall of 2020 behind the organized health systems and putting our go-to-market model and aligning it up there. And the organized health systems for those that are less familiar, are -- include IDNs, big regional health care centers that includes the Veterans Administration hospital and it includes justice systems. And we know that the majority of patients, the majority of doctors are in these systems. Yet the go-to-market model is unique because you have to first work with the parent, the administration of these folks to be able to get access to the systems before your CS is what we call clinical specialists or sales reps and get in and talk to the doctors. So we reorganized into this ecosystem model behind what we think is the perfect sort of area to bring our product to market because in these organized health systems, physicians aren't CEOs like they are in small practices. Physicians are able to have wraparound services, they've got back offices, they do scheduling. They've got folks that do prior off. They've got pharmacies and folks that manage the medication and they're able to just prescribe to their patients the most efficacious medication. So we focus there. You take the IDNs, which have been the majority of the growth. 70% of our revenue and 70% of our growth come from organized health systems. IDNs have been the main driver of that. And then strategically, you look at justice systems, which are the perfect time to intercept the patient because 65% of them come in contact with the justice system because of the nature of their disease. And we put 20 -- a dedicated 20-person sales force there at the beginning of the year and have been able to open up access at over 100 of the top 1,000 systems in the U.S. So we're excited about the momentum. I think the momentum we carry into the year is 8 quarters of double-digit growth, and the team is really excited about going forward, keeping that growth going in the short, the medium and in the long term.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#9

That's very clear. And you had a target of activating top 500 organized SKF system, and you reach that target. So what are the next steps to continue driving this cost?

Mark Crossley

executive
#10

Yes. Now that's great because I think there are a lot of investors who say, we've targeted this top 500 organized health systems is your growth going to slow. And the answer is really, it's almost like an iceberg. You start with these parent organized health systems. And all it means is you've got one script through. Now in these big health systems, you typically have a central, what they we call a parent, which is the 500 and then you have children all geographically across. And so the way we look at growth is there's 4 sort of growth elements. The first one is we'll continue to expand the parent organized health systems. There will be more coming on. We'll open up the children, which is their satellite campuses, which then give us access to all the patients and all the physicians. And so then what it is about getting new physicians prescribing and depth of prescribing. So there's kind of 4 vectors of growth, and those 4 vectors are what enable our confidence in continuing to grow in the short, the medium and the long-term.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#11

That's very clear. You had, as you mentioned, the $1 billion target for SUBLOCADE, for this year, you're already guiding for $400 million. So it looks like you are very well on track for this target. What does this target imply in terms of patient penetration? And what is the upside from there?

Mark Crossley

executive
#12

Yes. And listen, the momentum has been palatable as we come into this year. We have raised our guidance to $30 million to $40 million, up $25 million at the midpoint, based on the strength of the team's execution. And as we look forward, it's that execution and that strategy that has come together, aligning the structure and the strategy are going to drive us to the $1 billion plus. And we've always guided to over $1 billion of sales on SUBLOCADE because of the nature of the disease. And really the math is actually quite simple. In a huge unmet disease space with a huge growth continuing because of the treatment gap. All you need is about 180,000 patients to be on SUBLOCADE in 3 to 5 years to get to $1 billion. That's about a 6% to 7% patient share, which is quite small when you have a paradigm shift in medication that really protects that patient in their moment of weakness because they've got therapeutic levels all month long that occupy the receptors and block the illicit opioids if they were to use that. So it's a medication we're excited about. We think 6% to 7% is quite doable, and we've always guided to the $1 billion plus.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#13

Billion plus. And if you think even longer term than this, I think, as I mentioned, investors are incredibly increasingly, sorry, comfortable with this 1 billion PCS target. And by that horizon, most likely SUBLOCADE will represent a very -- I mean, the vast majority of Indivior's revenues. So investors are now starting to ask question on how durable is this franchise, what could disrupt it? So if you could give us your view on the IP situation and the potential for generics down the road? And also maybe potential threat from branded competition to SUBLOCADE.

Mark Crossley

executive
#14

Yes. No, it's a great question. And I think we think of there being multiple vectors as you think through the space. I mean, we've built up a very unique sort of go-to-market model for a very unique disease space, the call platform, all that is different than so many disease spaces. And so this ecosystem model focused on organized health systems, we think of as a competitive advantage. And we'll continue to execute behind that and drive the growth. I think there's also a second side of this, which is IP, and we have IP that goes from 2032 to 2038 that we feel is quite strong. And we continue to assess ways to protect the novelty of our inventions that we have. And then you get to with long actings in general, there's a certain amount of manufacturing sort of protection that's out there because they're 28 days, it's quite hard to do PK modeling and match PK on these things. So there's kind of 3 different vectors there. There's a go-to-market model that's unique. There's the IP itself, and then there's -- it's tough to manufacture this stuff.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#15

That's very clear. And in connection with all of that, could you maybe talk a little bit about your long-term margin profile. SUBLOCADE is a very profitable product. It drives most of your growth. And so as you get leverage on your OpEx base investors are sometimes asking how far could you drive profitability. So the question is how much more incremental SG&A do you need in order to maximize the growth of the business? And what could be a sustainable operating margin in the long run for Indivior? Is it 30%? Could it be 40% or more?

Mark Crossley

executive
#16

Yes. And listen, we don't have long-term targets out for gross margin nor for operating margin. But what we have provided from a guidance standpoint is we have built up a franchise that we think is quite scalable. We've got a go-to-market model that will keep our growth moving forward for a number of years. At some point, that sales and marketing will get to a spot where we've gotten into enough areas that we'll have to build it on a targeted basis. This isn't a whole scale sort of item with regards to that. The only time we ever have a larger investment would be alternate sites of care, the legislation changed on that, and we were able to go back to the retail sort of call point. So that's one. Sales and marketing will grow, probably ahead of inflation, but certainly not at the rate of top line growth. When you start to look at G&A. We think we've got a pretty scalable franchise here. We've built up all of our capabilities for where we are. And while there may be a little here and there, it's kind of an inflationary sort of increase. And then when you look at R&D, we will continue to add in assets and build a sustainable franchise by bringing in the top assets in the area. And so R&D will increase as a percentage of sales. But from an overall growth, it won't be that bad. So if you think about the margins in our OpEx, it should be something that the margins grow. When you think of gross margins, I think we've always kind of said the injectables have a more attractive margin than the historical film. So as the volume continues to shift over there, we should see a little bit of margin expansion there also. So overall, you can see a very scalable franchise with margins increasing. We just haven't guided to that on a long-term basis, yes.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#17

Absolutely. And maybe just a few words on your historical legacy franchise, the Suboxone Film. So obviously, it's been slowly reading in the U.S. due to generic competition and pricing pressure. However, I think investors once again here have been surprised by the resilience of this franchise. Your volume share between -- the volume share between Indivior the generic maker has been relatively stable, maybe a little bit of decrease for the past 2 years. In June, we had a new approval with a new product, I mean, potentially approved but not yet launched. And so just if you could give us an update on this franchise and the outlook in the short and midterm?

Mark Crossley

executive
#18

Sure. No, I think it's one that we get questions on because it has been a very nice surprise and a nice cash generation for both investment back into the franchise, but also for capital allocation priorities, such as the share buybacks we've done. I think, first of all, from a health check standpoint, we don't promote the box on film. When we move to SUBLOCADE, we stopped promoting. And then in our DOJ resolution, we memorialized that. And so we don't promote it. And so it's truly it's what doctors are prescribing and what comes through. And we've been extremely surprised as have many investors that the analogs that are out there that the film has beaten those. And we have about a 19% share of the overall buprenorphine market, and we've maintained about a 35% to 40% of the film market in multiple years past multiple generic entry, which is typically quite unheard of in this space. And so this year, we guided to much more stability, pending the potential for additional interest to come in. And then we've heard of Apotex their operating model, I think is Aveva here in the U.S. And we've heard they've been approved. And so there's a higher risk of them entering, a higher risk of disruption in the market. And what we've done is during the year, we -- when we took up the SUBLOCADE guidance, we did not take up the overall company guidance because of the threat of their entry and the impacts on revenue. When it comes to the longer-term impact, we'll have to see how they launch and we'll take care of that when we guide in the fiscal year-end results at the start of the year or if there's more information at the Q3 results, we'll share with them.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#19

Absolutely. And maybe the last product in your franchise, which is Perseris. So external injectable Risperidone for the treatment of schizophrenia. Could you comment on the current trends for these products, your recent initiatives drive growth? Could you potentially out-license these assets to the right partner? Or are you determined to keep this in-house?

Mark Crossley

executive
#20

Yes. I think maybe I'll start with the last one first. I mean we had -- when it was in Phase III, we had run up process to potentially look for partners. And what we did was we chose we thought it was more attractive in our hands than those other partners that came through in the process. And so I think we've treated it as an asset that we had significant potential. Our top line guidance is $200 million to $300 million of revenue. So not coming in and dominating an established market, but carving out a very strong niche based on a differentiated product profile. COVID disproportionately impacted the launch of Perseris. We were in the third quarter of launch when COVID hit. We were ready to go national. And we press pause because we weren't going to be able to get access to the doctor's offices during that time. So you don't launch and double your sales force when that's going on. As COVID is we've gone with a national sales force. I think we've seen that in the -- if you look at the Q-over-Q trends this year and where we're headed, they're quite strong. The growth has picked up. The differentiated product profile is proving out in the market, and we're still quite excited we have conviction behind the current year guidance, which is 27% to 32%, and we still have conviction behind the $200 million to $300 million peak revenue sales that's out there.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#21

That's great. Capital allocation. Could you come back on your priorities, you completed 2 share buyback programs in the recent past? Do you expect share buyback to become a regular fixture of your capital allocation policy? Or was this more of a one-off? And if you could comment on the balance between organic investment, business development and returning cash to shareholders.

Mark Crossley

executive
#22

Yes. Now that there's a lot wrapped in there placebo. But I think what we've gone through is a period of transition, right? And if you look and rewind the clock to 2 years ago, when I took over as CEO, I think it was very clear we needed to really triangulate it on clear strategic priorities, allocate our capital across the strategic priorities and be very focused on driving SUBLOCADE, which is the paradigm shifting sort of treatment and a huge value driver for shareholders. And so we really limited what it is we're doing and made commitments externally to shareholders on what we deliver. And I think we've been very focused on that, and that has led to our short-term sort of capital allocation policy, which has been pure growth behind SUBLOCADE. We've made targeted incremental investments. We've expanded the organized health system a bit, adding a few key resources in there. We've expanded into the justice system where we have a 20-person targeted sales force. And we added medical science liaisons who can take the very unique and pertinent science that our Chief Scientific Officer, Christian Heidbreder has developed, whether that's with regards to fentanyl or with regards to RECOVER study, which is a duration of treatment and bring that out into the disease space. So our capital allocation has been first focused there. Second, it's been focused on expanding the pipeline in areas that we know what to do. And so we brought in our cannabis use disorder asset. And then we made a very deliberate decision that we were not going to do any material M&A or diversification because we didn't want to distract the business. And that led to the Board and management, looking at the capital allocation policy and with the over-delivery on film, doing 2 buybacks. So we're in the midst of the second buyback. When we finished with that, we'll take another look at the capital allocation in partnership with the Board and decide what mix is right moving forward. Is it business development now that SUBLOCADE has momentum? Is it doing something a bit more transformational or larger scale? Or is it continued buybacks? And they're open to that whatever is in the best interest of the shareholder.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#23

That's very clear. So maybe a last kind of wrap-up question. If we step back to look a bit at the big picture, could you articulate the strategy for the group, so in the mid and long term because the rollout of SUBLOCADE has been obviously good. We have seen good growth. You are starting to diversify your revenues. So how should we think of the shape of the growth in the mid, long term and your plan to make the growth sustainable as a business over the longer term? And if you could give us an overall overview of the major opportunity challenges in the year ahead.

Mark Crossley

executive
#24

Sure. Sure. Great question. I mean I think this is one where, unfortunately, I'm quite boring when it comes to our strategy. And I think that's the sign of putting a good strategy in place. I mean we have 4 strategic priorities. The first is continued investment and execution behind SUBLOCADE. I mean that is key, that is a value driver. That will be the short, the medium and long term, where we can continue to drive significant shareholder value. That second one with regards to diversification. You know in the short term, we've been focused on diversification with Perseris geographically and then bringing in a small asset into our pipeline. But as we move forward, we could do more meaningful diversification for the franchise to create a more sustainable franchise. And that's something any of the transformational stuff we think is 23 and beyond. Pipeline, we've talked about progress and build that and then just continued financial discipline. So it's boring. I know it's the same thing I've been saying for 2 years, but I think it's the right way to drive value in this franchise for shareholders.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#25

That's very kind. Maybe last follow-up on the potential for business development. Are you really focused on substance disorders or could you potentially move on to other areas in urology?

Mark Crossley

executive
#26

Yes, I think it's an end. I think we see ourselves as the leaders in addiction. We have the largest commercial team across 40 countries versus any competitor. So we should be a source of assets, inbound assets. Now we have a connect and developed model. We won't be a discovery house. It's just not going to be what we're going to do, but we will work with the biopharma companies that are out developing assets. And we do have a list of target sort of mechanisms of action that we think can really differentiate in the disease space alcohol-use disorder, cannabis use disorder also in opioid use disorder where we have a stronghold with buprenorphine. And then stimulant methamphetamine stuff like that. So we target those. We could tuck one of those in at any time. What we do is watch, look at the data, wait until it gets to a place where it's derisking at the right level for shareholders, i.e., the cannabis use disorder coming into the Ib inflection point. And then more meaningful diversification because there aren't many late-stage or commercial assets in addiction, you're going to probably look into other therapy areas. And that's work we're doing with the Board on where we have a right to play, so that if and when we step into business development, we're driving value for shareholders.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#27

That's very clear. I think we stop here then. And thank you very much, Mark.

Mark Crossley

executive
#28

Thank you, Thibault.

Thibault Boutherin

analyst
#29

Absolutely. Thank you.

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