Industries Qatar Q.P.S.C. (IQCD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 15, 2021

Qatar Stock Exchange QA Industrials Industrial Conglomerates earnings 48 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, and welcome to the Industries Qatar Q4 2020 Results Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Bobby Sarkar. Please go ahead, sir.

Saugata Sarkar

analyst
#2

Hi. Hello, everyone. This is Bobby Sarkar, Head of Research at QNB Financial Services. I wanted to welcome everyone to Industries Qatar's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2020 Results Conference Call. So on this call from QP's Privatized Company Affairs Group, we have Mohammed Al-Sulaiti, who is the Manager in Privatized Affairs; Abdulla Al-Hay, who's the Assistant Manager in Financial Operations; and Riaz Khan, who is the Head of Investor Relations and Communications. So we will conduct this conference with, first, management briefly reviewing the company's results followed by a Q&A. I would like to turn the call over now to Riaz. Riaz, please go ahead.

Riaz Khan

executive
#3

Thank you, Bobby. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us. Hope you are all staying safe. Before we go into the business and performance updates, I would like to mention that this call is purely for the investors of IQ, and no media representatives should be participating in this call. Moreover, please note that this call is subject to IQ's disclaimer statements as detailed on Slide #2 of the IR deck. Moving on to the call. On Feb 8, IQ released its results for the year ended December 31, 2020. And today in this call, we'll go through these results and provide you an update on key financial and operational highlights of IQ. Today on this call, along with me, I have Mr. Mohammed Al-Sulaiti, Manager, Privatized Companies Affairs QP; and Mr. Abdulla Al-Hay, Assistant Manager, Financial Operations. We have structured our call as follows. At first, I will provide you with a quick insight on IQ's ownership structure, competitive advantages, overall governance and BOD structure. Secondly, Mr. Abdulla will brief you on IQ's key operational and financial performance metrics. And later, I will provide you with insights on segmental performance and CapEx updates. And finally, we will open the floor for the Q&A session. To start with, as detailed on Slide #5 of the higher debt, the ownership structure of IQ comprises of Qatar Petroleum with 51% stake, and GRSIA, being the second-largest shareholder with more than 21% stake. As detailed on Slide #4, IQ is credit rated by S&P with A+ and Moody's with A1 credit rating with a stable outlook. Qatar Petroleum, being the main shareholder of IQ, provides most of the head office functions through a service level agreement. The operations of IQ Group companies are independently managed by its respective Board of Directors, along with senior management team, the BOD structure as detailed on Slide #6 of the IR presentation. In terms of competitive advantages, as detailed on Slide #7, the group is well positioned with several competitive advantages. It possesses strategically, operationally as well as financially. These competitive advantages includes: an efficient and well-maintained asset base; a qualified and highly trained workforce; assured feedstock supply, along with competitively priced energy contracts; lower operating cost; a dedicated marketing team in form of Muntajat to market the group's petrochemicals and fertilizers products; and most importantly, a well-experienced senior management team. These competitive advantages are not only aiding the group to mitigate the threats enforced by the depressed macroeconomic conditions, but also keeps us well ahead of the competition and assures IQ's resilience in these difficult economic times while maintaining healthy EBITDA margins and generating strong free cash flows. In terms of governance structure of IQ, you may refer to Slides 42 and 43 of the IR deck, which covers various aspects of IQ's code of corporate governance in detail. I will now hand over to Abdulla.

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#4

Salaam-Alaikum. Thank you, Riaz. Good afternoon, and thank you all for joining us. To start with, IQ business performance for the financial year 2020 is a pure reflection of the challenging macroeconomic condition where an overall decline of 19% in term of bottom line profitability was noted in comparison to the same period last year as detailed on Slide #13. Here, before we go deep dive into our 2020 financial results, I would like to mention that 2020 profitability and all the financial results discussed here are normalized after considering 25% profit from QAFCO for the first 9 months period ended 30 September 2020 amounting to QAR 113 million, whereas the same was considered as part of retained earnings directly within the statement of change in equity in 2020 published financial statements prepared in line with the required of IFRS. The financial performance was impacted by uncontrollable external factors carried forward from last year, such as slowdown in the global economy, limited GDP growth and continued trade tensions. These macroeconomic adversities were further augmented in dual macro headwinds in form of unprecedented spread of COVID-19 pandemic, which affected our products' demand due to geographic lockdown and ongoing volatilities in oil prices. All of these external factors directly translated to an increase in pressure on competitive prices for our products. At the group level, the blended selling price declined by 7% year-on-year basis and contributed to a QAR 622 million decline in the group net earning for the year 2020 as you can see on the Slide #14. As detailed on Slide #12, sales volume at the group level also declined by 17% compared to last year. The decline in sales volume was mainly attributed to the changes in QAFCO train 1 to 4 gas sales and operating agreement and net borrowings of certain steel facility starting from Q2 2020. Also, the decline was attributed to the lower production level and PE and MTBE facilities due to maintenance shutdowns. There was partial offset due to increased volume related to QAFCO 25% acquisition. The decline in sales volume contributed QAR 2.5 billion decline in the group net earnings for the year 2020 as you can see on Slide #14. The group production level were down on 2019 by 8%. This decline was mainly attributed to the periodic plant maintenance and a planned shutdown and mothballing of certain steel facilities, this was partially offset by an increase volumes related to QAFCO 25% stake acquisition effective from January 1, 2020. In addition, as detailed on Slide #14, profitability was negatively impacted due to recognition of one-off impairment losses of QAR 1.2 billion related to steel segment mothballing of certain facility in Qatar and 133 -- QAR 153 million of impairment losses in QMC. This was mainly offset on recognition of one-off fair value and bargain purchase gain of QAR 1.4 billion, which have been booked in line with the requirement of IFRS when accounting for the effects of transition from equity accounting to consolidation of QAFCO 100% stake and completion of the acquisition of 25% minority stake in QAFCO. In response to certain -- the spread of COVID-19, measures were taken to monitor the fluctuating business conditions and the threat post COVID discovered of COVID-19 was a specific focus on protecting employees, assets and operations. The group remained successfully in implementing these measures as there were no plant stoppage due to any demand-related reasons associated with COVID-19 pandemic, except for a planned shutdown of MTBE facilities for a certain period during Q2 and Q4 2020 due to commercial reasons. The impact of the growth in relation to these temporary shutdown of MTBE facility has remained immaterial considering its overall contribution to the group volumes. Also in the current distressed situation, with the relentless effort of our sales and marketing partner, the group ensured that all the sale contracted are effectively and efficiently secured and minimized the disruptions to the marketing, warehousing and logistics. Move into the quarterly performance. Compared to the third quarter of 2020, the group revenue has normalized net profit increased by 27% and 112%, respectively. The recovery was mainly due to continued positive crude price trajectory, supply shortage and demand recoveries and further easing of lockdown along with the vaccine optimism. The profit improvement was also contributed by the recognition of the additional fair value bargain purchase gain amounted to QAR 246 million after recognizing an initial gain of QAR 1.16 billion in the previous 9 months, which was partially offset by an additional depreciation charges of QAR 199 million on account of QAFCO purchase price allocation exercise. Moving on the balance sheet that remained healthy with liquidity at the end of December 2020, remain robust with no long-term debt on the group's balance sheet, including QAR 9.8 billion in cash and bank financing. Despite the challenging macroeconomic condition, IQ free cash flow generation capability remained robust, and the group generated QAR 2.8 billion in term of free cash flow for the financial year 2020 as detailed on Slide #15 of the IR deck. Before we go into the segmental update, I would like to highlight some of the key initiatives as detailed on Slide #14, which the group taken to ensure our resilience in challenging macroeconomic situation. These measures, including optimizing human resources structure, reducing direct costs in relation to utilities and maintenance, reducing non projects -- reducing nonproduction-related expenditure, including sale, marketing, corporate and administrative expenses, similarly, the group reviewed that CapEx program across all the segments and identified CapEx item that can either be avoided or deferred without affecting overall quality, safety, environmental aspects and reliability of the operations. For the year 2020, the group managed to further reduce the overall controllable fixed operating expenditure by 2%. On overall basis, our base case strategy will continue to focus on market development, focusing on capturing new markets, creating market arbitrages and the bank logistic cost savings in the group. We will also continue to focus on productivity and efficiency gained via the long ongoing cost optimization program. I will now hand over to Riaz Khan to cover the segmental performance.

Riaz Khan

executive
#5

Thank you, Abdulla. I will start with Petrochemicals segment. As detailed on Slide 24, the overall profitability of the segment has remained under pressure with an overall decline in bottom line earnings by 19% compared to last year. This was mainly due to softening demand for petrochemical products in key markets, excess capacities, combined with unprecedented dual headwinds in form of COVID-19 outbreak and oil price decline. Because of these external factors, the blended product prices in the petchem segment declined by 12% and mainly led to a decline in segmental revenues by 9% compared to last year. The sales volumes were marginally up by 3% compared to last year, mainly on the back of production volumes, which also increased by 4% as the segment had less number of shutdowns during the year. On a quarter-on-quarter basis, the segment reported a net profit of QAR 441 million for the fourth quarter of 2020 with a significant uplift of 40% versus third quarter of 2020. This increase was predominantly driven by notable increase in product prices, especially polyethylene prices. Specifically, LDPE and LLDPE have recovered significantly due to elevated macroeconomic sentiments with notable optimism. Sales volumes for the fourth quarter have also improved against a backdrop of renewed demand and increased by 4%. In terms of segment revenue by geography as detailed on Slide #25, Asia remains the main market for PE and MTBE. Whereas Indian subcontinent remains a key market for methanol and PE. Moving on to the Fertilizers segment as detailed on Slide 29. The bottom line profitability on a normalized basis improved by 3% year-on-year, mainly due to the effect of acquisition of QAFCO's 25% stake with effect from January 1, 2020. The segment profitability was also impacted due to an impairment loss booked amounting to QAR 153 million in relation to QMC facilities. Average selling prices were down on last year by 6% due to weak seasonal demand, which outweighed the gradual easing of supply-side bottlenecks. Sales volumes were down by 7% due to the temporary gas processing arrangement for QAFCO trains 1 to 4, which remained enacted until July 31, 2020, wherein the related sales volumes were not recorded as part of the segmental volumes. Additionally, the sales volumes were also affected due to unplanned maintenance shutdowns during the year. This reduction was partially offset by additional volumes booked due to the acquisition of 25% stake in QAFCO and booking of 100% sales volumes for QAFCO trains 1 to 4, starting from first of August 1, 2020 under the new GSPA. Segmental revenue reached QAR 4.4 billion, up by 3% compared to 2019, mainly due to booking of revenues from QAFCO at 100% with effect from January 1, 2020. This was offset by decline in selling prices and change in revenue recognition methodology due to temporary gas processing arrangement of QAFCO trains 1 to 4 applicable for the first 7 months of 2020. Production volumes, significantly up by 34% versus 2019 as a result of additional volumes relating to 25% stake in QAFCO. Production, excluding the impact of acquisition, remained flat despite the segment experienced some interruptions in terms of unplanned maintenance shutdowns during second half of 2020. Net profit for the fourth quarter of 2020 reached QAR 444 million, significantly increased compared to the third quarter of 2020. This increase was primarily driven by improved fertilizer price levels in Q4, together with marked uplift in the sales volumes. While booking of QMC-related impairment losses in Q3 also contributed positively towards the overall growth in profits for Q4. Selling price pickup was against a backdrop of limited supply in China due to winter supply cuts as well as demand pickup in U.S. ahead of its spring season while the demand from India remained on a higher side throughout the year. Sales volumes, on the other hand, grew by 44% versus the previous quarter as the full effect of the new GSPA contributed positively towards the volume growth, along with the increased operating rates and a general uplift in the fertilizer demand also played a part. In terms of segment revenue by geography, as detailed on Slide 30, North and South America remains the main market for fertilizer segment, along with Indian subcontinent and Asia. Now let's discuss the steel segment where you may refer to Slides 32 till 36. During 2020, the steel segment reported a net loss of QAR 1.3 billion for the financial year 2020 compared to a net profit of QAR 36 million for the last year. Selling prices improved by 6% in 2020 compared to last year due to management's decision to predominantly cater local demand from the start of Q2 as the prices of steel tend to be higher in the domestic market than internationally. Sales volumes have also declined due to management's decision of mothballing certain facilities and reduce the nameplate capacity from 1.8 million metric tons of rebars per annum to 800,000 metric tons of rebar per annum. The operating cost remained higher as the segment sold some of the expensive inventories carried forward from the previous periods. This was offset by OpEx savings on account of facility mothballing and optimization initiatives recently implemented. On an overall basis, segment revenue was down by 41% on the back of decline in sales volumes. The segment reported a net profit of QAR 49.6 million for the fourth quarter of 2020, an increase of 90% versus the third quarter of 2020. This improvement was driven by a combined effect of significant increase in sales volumes and selling prices. Sales volumes have improved by 22% on Q3 while average selling prices have marginally improved by 1% versus the previous quarter. In terms of segment revenue by geography as detailed on Slide #33. Qatar, along with Asia and Middle East, are the key markets for the segment. Moving on to the Slide 38. An important point to note here that cash flow and CapEx figures for the years 2021 till '25 are based on latest budgets and business plans approved, which was based on the expectations of the market conditions and commodity prices prevailing at the time of finalizing these budgets. With current market conditions and fluctuation -- fluctuating commodity price trends, the forecast as detailed on this slide cannot be relied on with absolute certainty, where the actual realizations might significantly differ as compared to these projections. Now we will open the floor for the Q&A session.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Mohammed Al-Thunayan from Jadwa Investment.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#7

Yes. First of all, congratulations on the set of results that you announced in the fourth quarter and the full year of 2020 despite several challenges witnessed during the year. I have 3 main questions. The first one is regarding I think please explain the QAR 199 million in additional depreciation during the fourth quarter, which was related to the PPAE advance cap. And more importantly, should we treat this as a onetime? Or will this significantly increase next year's depreciation? And if you could share the approximate depreciation figure for next year versus this year, that would be appreciated.

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#8

Okay. You want to go question by question?

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#9

Yes. After this, we can take this question.

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#10

Okay. This QAR 199 million, basically do -- when we conducted the purchase price allocation exercise and we completed the acquisition of the minority stake of 25% stake due to the deal terms of the assets depreciation for this minority need to be booked at the head office level. And this depreciation will be continued until the term of the acquisition for the next 16 years. So it will be something continued.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#11

So we should expect an increase in depreciation by QAR 199 million a year going forward?

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#12

This one for 2020. I cannot give you a exact figure for the next year. However, the depreciation will be continuing. I just note that here, if you have a particular number in mind for future years?

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#13

Not really. No [indiscernible].

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#14

This will continue for the term period around that number would be there but we cannot give the exact number. It depends upon the moment in the asset also.

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#15

Okay. Okay. Clear.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#16

Should we expect any further revaluation of the assets going forward?

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#17

We don't expect any further revaluation of the assets and if something different happens in the market related to the product price or something else. However, as of now, we are satisfied with this evaluation.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#18

Sure. We note that CapEx as there in the presentation for 2021 till 2025 is approximately QAR 5.2 billion. While the company has significantly more cash on the balance sheet, QAR 8.8 billion as at the end of 2020. Are there any CapEx or expansion plans going forward? Or the company will qualify dividends going forward for the excess cash that we generate?

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#19

Every year, we are reviewing our budget and business plan where we do see an opportunity for any CapEx projects. However, due to the macroeconomic situation as of now, all the CapEx that we have seen, which was the recent approved CapEx, we've then very carefully selected our CapEx item, just -- and we have deferred all the unnecessary CapEx project that does not -- and in consideration without comprising to the aim of safety and environment.

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#20

Maybe just to add just to add on to just answer. There are several say CapEx-related investments that are under review. Those are related to possibly what your question was referring to is if there are any capacity increases or any potential investments beyond the current asset base of IQ and its joint ventures and subsidiaries. So there are several investment opportunities. They're all in preliminary phases of review. So what we show in front of you on this page is the approved plan of capital expenditure, which is purely limited to maintenance, CapEx and environmental-related CapEx.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#21

Okay. Can we know which thinking behind [indiscernible] contingency loan in terms of these possible or potential expansion?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#22

Sorry, we cannot hear you very well.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#23

In all segments that you're focusing on in terms of these potential or possible expansion, whether it is in petrochemical, steel or fertilizers?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#24

Well, the only, I'd say, investment now that's on the surfaces and on the table is the first deal of fertilizer.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#25

And Deal Qatar?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#26

Pardon me?

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#27

Deal Qatar?

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#28

[Foreign Language].

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#29

It is a domestic deal, yes.

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#30

[Foreign Language].

Riaz Khan

executive
#31

Sorry?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

My last question, which is related to the CapEx that you've shown, we see a significant amount of CapEx will be spent during 2021 and 2022 around QAR 1.5 billion to QAR 1.8 billion. Can you please share with us [indiscernible].

Riaz Khan

executive
#33

[indiscernible] Okay. Sorry.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#34

Can you share with us...

Riaz Khan

executive
#35

Guys please, whoever is talking, please mute so we can hear the questions clearly.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#36

Should I repeat the question?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#37

No, no, sorry, but some people are un-muted and that's why we cannot hear you very well.

Riaz Khan

executive
#38

Yes, sure. Understood. Planned shutdown schedule for 2021 and 2022.

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#39

Well, I don't -- I can't really hear the question very well. I'm really sorry for that. But if you can just repeat yourself.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#40

So can you hear me now?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#41

I can hear you, but it's not 100% clear. So maybe you can try to get your voice a bit closer.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#42

And now it's better?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#43

Yes, much better.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#44

Sure. So we have witnessed CapEx of QAR 1.5 billion to QAR 1.8 billion in 2021 and 2022, which is significantly higher than the period of 2023 to 2025. But we were wondering about your planned shutdown schedule for those 2 years and what are the other shutdowns are expected to materialize during these 2 years?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#45

For 2021 and 2022, the reason why you see a spike in CapEx related shutdowns, there were 2 main factors. So say one is related to some deferments given that we've delayed some of the turnarounds that were initially anticipated in 2020. And that's due part of the plan of optimizing the CapEx in 2020, and deferring it into the next year just to try to, in a very efficient manner, manage our capital outlay versus our cash flow projections for the year. And in addition to that, there were some delays as well envisaged on some of the planned turnarounds due to the COVID-19-related restrictions as well of some of the contractors having issues repatriating some of the number of labor required for such shutdown from that. So yes, we do expect 2021 to be higher in terms of number as compared to 2022, and you see some as well in 2021 and 2022 so in comparison to 2020. And then from 2023 onwards, it goes back to the normal levels.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#46

And can we know on which segments those shutdowns will occur or occurred already for 2021 and 2022?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#47

2021, we have a major turnaround on QAFCO. And I'm not sure that QAFCO has a, I mean, turnaround as well. Gentlemen, maybe you can confirm that? Abdulla?

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#48

[Foreign Language] for 2021?

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#49

2021, we have a QAFCO turnaround, but I'm not sure...

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#50

QAFCO main turnaround in 2021, that comprises of major shutdown. And QAFAC there is no shutdown in 2021 and QAFAC shutdown is in 2023.

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#51

Okay. And what happens in 2022? Whose planned shutdown...

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#52

In 2022 -- in '22, we have QAFCO coming in. Some of the QAFCO plants, Ammonia 5 and 6, 7 I think coming in. And the shutdown schedule is here. So the major one in 2022 is -- I can't tell you if you can continue with the other questions, I can have a quick peek and let you all know.

Mohammed Al-Thunayan

analyst
#53

And could we know in which quarter of 2021?

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#54

The shutdown, it was supposed to be ordinarily in Q1, Q2. I think now it's in the second half. The 2022 shutdown is predominantly in fertilizer. And we also have -- in 2021, also, we have ammonia and urea shutdowns in 2021 also. Because since we have 6 trains, usually a tariff train takes turns in each year so it transfers.

Operator

operator
#55

We'll now take our next question from Faisal Al Azmeh of Goldman Sachs.

Faisal Al Azmeh

analyst
#56

Congratulations on the strong set of numbers. Three questions, if I may. Maybe firstly, just on the CapEx-related questions. Just when looking at QAFCO, it has quite a high CapEx spend. And you kind of mentioned on the slide that there is around QAR 1.2 billion related to investments. Will that result in any improved or enhanced capacity like or debottlenecking? Or is it just purely maintenance and so the plants will still operate and produce the same level of production as it's substantially higher than what we see in the other companies? And my second question is relating to the minority up stakes in CapEx and QAFCO, any guidance? Or directionally, if we can get a sense of whether you might undertake a similar stake buyout similar to what you did with QAFCO last year? Is this something that's likely to materialize in the near term? Or is it something more long term? And finally, just a question on dividends. We saw you this year kind of having a record payout. When you're thinking about 2021, do we continue to think about EPS as the baseline? Or is there a possibility of linking the payout to free cash flows?

Riaz Khan

executive
#57

Okay. So I think related to QAFCO being higher than the usual, I'd assume that this is in relation to the ownership being 100% as opposed to 75% in the past or no capacity increases expected out of those investments and turnarounds across the QAFCO facility. So those are purely related to maintenance and some projects related to environmental as well. There are no capacity increases or debottlenecking is assumed as part of those investments. Moving on to question 2. So we have similarly through QAFCO, QAFAC, we have a joint venture that matures in 2024. QAFCO joint venture matures in. 2029. And then QAFAC in 2034. So some maybe more closer than others. But I think the strategy remains that we -- at the time, of course, and not today. However, at the time, there will be continuous discussion between IQ and QP to be able to overtake the foreign ownership percentage, similar to what has happened in QAFCO. And the joint ventures, QP would assume the foreign ownership at the time of the foreign ownership exit. And the term of the joint venture expiry, QP should assume the ownership into a joint venture for operating QAFCO. Looking at QP's strategy today, similar to what has happened at QAFCO, it's more streamlined towards owning an indirect ownership into those operating assets through IQ rather than through IQ and directly through the companies. So if this strategy continues to be in place, then, yes, I would assume, QAFAC and QAFCO and the QAFCO as well secondary company, [indiscernible] should follow a similar similar method and similar strategy in relation to IQ. The appetite of IQ continues to be there. However, it depend on QP's desire to let go of those shares and those customers. Lastly, question on dividends. Yes, the 100% payout, I think, is a record payout compared to the previous years. And a payout of -- a total payout of around QAR 2 billion as compared to QAR 2.8 billion of free cash flows, so I believe this is where your question is coming from. So going forward, would this continue to be the strategy where we do not exceed the EPS and distribute free cash. Free cash. So if you look at this year, this year, I think we had a cash outflow during 2020 in relation to the 2019 dividend, which was around QAR 2.4 billion. We had around slightly above $1 billion if we account for both 25% QAFCO as well the QMC share acquisition as well. It would really depend on what we have in our pipeline in relation to CapEx and whether any of those projects materialize in the future and any capacity increases or any share increase and the operating companies or even if IQ would go on looking for further investments and organically outside of those companies. If such capacity increases and growth is not there, then yes, I'd assume that at some point, the IQ board would consider distributing the free cash flow more than the EPS, not to retain much more of cash at hand at the IQ Holding Company.

Operator

operator
#58

We'll take our next question from Lee Beswick of QNB.

Lee Beswick

analyst
#59

I've got 2 questions. The first is on Slide 12, in relation to the temporary gas processing arrangement, can you just explain exactly why the temporary gas processing arrangement was in place and why IQ lost all of the revenue and costs for that period? Second question just relates to Qatar Steel. The new LNG trains that are due over the next few years are extremely steel-intensive in building. So I was just wondering how the demand from that will affect the outlook for Qatar Steel over the next 2 or 3 years?

Riaz Khan

executive
#60

Yes. So the first question, the temporary gas processing agreement was in line with the maturity of the joint venture. So at the end of 2019, the joint venture has expired, so did the article association of the joint venture. And along with the gas agreement in relation to QAFCO 1 to 4. So both IQ and QP's desire is always to lock feedstock arrangements on long term, similar to all our other producing entities. So having a short-term arrangement is not -- was not an option. And especially that QP's desire of continuing in the company at a similar ownership was not part of the discussion given that there were a different interpretation of the joint ventures. It ended up with QP buying Yara out and then IQ taking over. As part of that transaction as well, we were able to lock the gas sales and purchase agreement. So 15-plus, let's say, say, almost 16 years of a gas sales and purchase agreement, which gives us at IQ the security and the long-term visibility on our feedstock cost and operating cost per inch. Of course, it's not an optimal structure if we look at the first 7 months of the year. Yet the arrangement, I would say, was a fair arrangement. So we're getting around 6% margin from the revenue straight to your bottom line, so not accounting for any OpEx or CapEx in relation to capital one before. But it was a fair arrangement as at interim until we reach that final mutual arrangement with QP further on. The second question. Can you just refresh my memory on the second question? Sorry.

Lee Beswick

analyst
#61

Oh yes, sure.

Mohammed Al-Sulaiti

executive
#62

[indiscernible]

Riaz Khan

executive
#63

Yes, yes.

Lee Beswick

analyst
#64

Qatar Steel and the LNG trade.

Riaz Khan

executive
#65

Yes, yes. Qatar Steel initially the decision to promote almost 50% of the facility was predominantly driven on shifting our strategy from maximizing production, on maximizing profitability. So we had a good year at 2018. 2019 was a bit of different experiences that we've had. But the later part of 2019 was very challenging for Qatar Steel given its ability to sell internationally at a price therapy of how we're selling production. The net backlog was negative on our operating cost or even our cash cost. So we are running at a negative cash in relation to the portion that was sold internationally, which were affected of overall profitability. So we analyzed it. We deep dived into how Qatar Steel operates. And then we looked into the specific markets regionally here in the GCC as well as internationally in Asia, which are some of the major markets that we've been selling either rivets into or even bars. It was a decision to just cut up losses and focus on a more concentrated point of view in the region. So as I said...

Lee Beswick

analyst
#66

Sorry to interrupt, but my question related to Qatar Steel going forward, not the history.

Riaz Khan

executive
#67

Yes. I'm coming to...

Lee Beswick

analyst
#68

The question is specifically about the LNG trains that are coming over the next few years.

Riaz Khan

executive
#69

Well, the demand is -- the energy train is part of the demand that we see. So there are -- our expected demand as well coming in either from now being able to sell into the GCC. So Saudi remains to be a market that provides attractive pricings in relation to buyers, slightly higher than how much we're selling in Qatar -- So the demand for at least the quantity that we're producing now is not in [indiscernible]. So we're very comfortable to say that we believe the prices are very supportive. The demand as well is very supportive to the quantities that are produced domestically like Qatar Steel and other [indiscernible] as well. So if your question talks about current capacities, we don't see an issue why the carbon capacity is going to be a problem. However, if your question is also when does Qatar Steel to bring back full capacity, that would require a lot of studies and assessments, which is currently undergoing. So we're looking at how can we bring back our production capacity back to the historical capacity and how can we make sure that we were able to secure medium- to long-term contracts up supplying billets to [indiscernible] in the region which supports us going back to 100%.

Lee Beswick

analyst
#70

There's been no -- there's been no discussion yet between the companies building the LNG terminals and Qatar Steel with regards to the steel requirements for those new LNG terminals that are coming in the next 2 or 3 years?

Riaz Khan

executive
#71

No, not yet.

Lee Beswick

analyst
#72

There hasn't been a discussion point yet?

Riaz Khan

executive
#73

No, nothing that has been brought to our attention yet. So if any discussions are happening, they're happening at a very preliminary stage, so nothing to [indiscernible]

Operator

operator
#74

And there are no further questions in the queue at this time.

Saugata Sarkar

analyst
#75

Hi, hello, operator. This is Bobby again. If there are no further questions, I think we can stop the call for today. I want to thank the management for taking the time to answer all your questions, and I hope to interact with all of you next quarter. Thank you.

Riaz Khan

executive
#76

Thank you, Bobby, and thank you, gentlemen, for attending the call and ladies.

Saugata Sarkar

analyst
#77

Thank you.

Operator

operator
#78

Thank you. That now concludes the call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

Abdulla Al-Hay

executive
#79

Thank you.

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