Ingersoll Rand Inc. (IR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 15, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Machinery conference_presentation 30 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#1

Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to e-Laguna this year. I'm your host for this discussion, Josh Pokrzywinski, I'm the firm's U.S. electrical equipment and multi-industry analyst. Joining me on the audio line this afternoon from Ingersoll Rand, we have President and CEO, Vicente Reynal; and also CFO, Vik Kini. Guys, welcome to the conference. Appreciate you taking the time. Before we get started here, I do need to read a quick disclaimer. Please note that this webcast is for Morgan Stanley's clients and appropriate Morgan Stanley employees only. This webcast is not for members of the press. If you are a member of the press, please disconnect and reach out separately. For important disclosures, please see Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. Guys, thanks for joining. Vicente, if you wouldn't mind, maybe just spend a couple of minutes here as we get started, given this to lay the land and anything you're seeing out there, any updates on how some of the integration is going, just kind of a broader level setting?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#2

Yes, absolutely, Josh. Obviously, thanks for the invitation. It's exciting to to be here, although remotely, but we're kind of getting used to a lot of the remote and virtual meetings. So Josh, just to give you a quick overview. I mean, I think the integration continues to go really well. A couple of things I'll just kind of mention, we just completed our global employee engagement survey. We had over 95 participation rates. So when you think about 16,000 employees, 95% of them participating, it just tells you about the kind of the high level of engagement that we're creating across the organization. At the same time, later here in the month, as a matter of fact, on Monday of next week is when we're going to provide equity to all employees in the company and making employees owners of Ingersoll Rand. And so there's a lot of excitement and a lot of celebration that we're going to do around that. And I think that is just as a way to infuse the continuation of the momentum and the one culture that we want to create at Ingersoll Rand. And so I think I'll just say that, obviously, we never imagined back in March that we're going to be closing the acquisition and entering this kind of global epidemic. But I think the teams have done just an outstanding job controlling what they can control, creating a single culture, and we're really excited about what's the future here to us. So then maybe just with that, I'll just kind of pause it there and have you ask a bit of questions in terms of how the company is doing.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#3

No, that's great. And I appreciate that intro. I guess, just to kind of start with the surprises we've all lived through since the March time frame, doubly so for you guys, given the strategic effort. I think on the fundamental side, we have seen some return to, I don't want to say normal, but some of these industrial niche markets that are more tied to OpEx and normal replacement start to moderate out. We've seen some folks kind of in your orbit, not necessarily direct competitors, but kind of elsewhere and similar fueling businesses started to see some improvement off the bottom. How would you characterize that across Ingersoll Rand? Obviously, you have some very short-cycle businesses and very long cycle, how would you characterize kind of business across the portfolio here as we move through 3Q?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#4

Yes. I think overall, as we recall, in the second quarter earnings call, we spoke about kind of -- we gave a little glimpse in July and we said that July, total company orders were down 15% to 20%, some puts and takes, based on segments. And overall, I'd say we have seen a sequential improvement from that point forward. So we're very pleased with what we have seen. IT&S segment we -- the continue -- the recovery continues. I will highlight as well that it is being gradual in terms of what we have seen through August and obviously, not a sharp snapback or anything of that sort, but good moderate sequential improvement, which is great to see. From a regional perspective, U.S. and Europe, fairly comparable performance and consistent. In Asia, China continues to be positive. The rest of Asia Pacific is not the same strength as China due to some places like Singapore, Malaysia and Australia, just continue to be in strict control due to the second wave of COVID. And I remind you as well that within the IT&S segment, we have the power tool business, which we have seen sequentially better performance also in July and August as compared to the level that we saw in the second quarter. But obviously, from an overall perspective, the business order rates are still trending a bit more negatively as compared to the overall IT&S segment. Well, worth noting that the tools business within this business segment is performing much better than the material handling side of the business. And the precision and science technology, the other segment that is pretty exciting momentum. We indicated during the earnings call in July that orders were flat, but then we expected August and September orders to trend lower just due in part to the non-repeat of some of the larger COVID-related orders and design wins that we have seen in the month of July, particularly in the GDI, Gardner Denver Medical business. And this is exactly what we have seen kind of the business kind of normalizing a bit. And seeing the demand in line with industrials and other niche end markets that this business is exposed to. Specialty vehicles, orders in July were positive. And in general, we have continued to see positive trends in August. So again, largely attributable to the consumer business and the consumer business continues to be really healthy. Some due to market and some due to a lot of activities that we have been doing around demand generation and infusing this kind of direct-to-consumer approach. And finally, High Pressure Solutions business, July orders were down severely. And while activity in the space has gotten better, as we have moved through the third quarter with fleet count now in excess of 100 fleets, order rates haven't dramatically changed yet, given the continued overcapacity and cannibalization that we see in the market, but we're very encouraged by the level of activity and communication that we are having with customers and they seem to be getting ready to ramp here in the, hopefully, not-to-distant future. So I say overall, fairly well to the expectations that we had.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#5

Got it. That's helpful. And I guess just thinking into the IT&S portfolio a little bit. Obviously, a lot of different slices of that business compared to kind of the old Gardner Denver Industrial segment in terms of different end markets, different niches. Anything that bears calling out in terms of that higher recurring revenue that I think the Ingersoll Rand side had compared to Gardner Denver. Has that proven to be kind of a source of relative strength? And then anything across maybe kind of the different size vectors of that compression portfolio that have been kind of better or worse. I guess, maybe saying it more broadly, are you seeing kind of a level of diversification, putting all these businesses together that wouldn't have been apparent otherwise?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#6

Yes. I mean I think it's -- I mean, for sure, the percentage of recurring revenue is something really exciting in our business. And the legacy Ingersoll Rand, the compression business had a much higher percentage of the current business at nearly 50%. As to compare the legacy Gardner Denver Industrial business, that it was about 35%, and we categorize that through most kind of normal cycles, we tend to see that aftermarket is roughly 1.5x more resilient than the original equipment. I think what is exciting for us is that as we look ahead, we definitely see a lot of meaningful opportunity. And as you said, to continue to diversify into these highly reoccurring aftermarket profile in the IT&S segment. I mean, currently, we stand at 60-40, so 40% in terms of aftermarket, which is good. But our goal without question is to continue to improve that aftermarket mix. And just to put in perspective, as you recall, we were able to improve 3 to 100 basis points on the legacy Gardner Denver Industrial segment from 2015 to 2019 period, and we don't see any reasons for not being able to do that same thing here. So a lot of our strategic areas around harmonization of the IoT platforms and as well as leveraging and utilizing the direct sales force that Ingersoll Rand had already established. Those are really great opportunities for us to continue to see this really good diversification and get that 40% of recurring aftermarket revenue to continue to improve from here. So I think from our side, we just see great opportunities for good commercial and growth upside.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#7

So there's no technology barrier per se on the Gardner Denver side that would prevent it from getting somewhere closer to Ingersoll Rand's level?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#8

No whatsoever. I mean -- and again, I think it's just mainly the channel dynamics, one through a dealer, the other one direct. Clearly, now the harmonization of that and how we're going to leverage that. So now from a technology perspective, there is really no barrier from a technological perspective. And if anything, we see technology as a future enabler for us to continue to grow this with technologies like the IoT platform connectivity.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#9

And then I guess just zooming out a little bit and thinking about this, a little higher level or more top down. 2 things that come to mind on IT&S side. I guess first is, I've always thought of this as more of kind of a capacity utilization-type business than maybe just tied to industrial production. So in theory, IP can improve a lot next year, maybe capacity utilization still has some slack in it. How do you think about this business being kind of a coincident recovery with broader industrial activity versus needing new capacity to be required by the market? I guess one comes faster than the other.

Vicente Reynal

executive
#10

Yes. I think, Josh, I think the -- what is really, I would say, highly encouraging is that, I mean, obviously, as you very well said, capacity utilization is at low -- still low point, but and both capacity utilization and IP are trending the right way with good sequential improvement, and that should bode well for us moving forward. Short, medium and long term [indiscernible]. I think in terms of correlation, we believe that we're also in a very unique environment where due to some of the reshoring and reconfiguration of the supply chain some of the previous correlations could prove to be slightly different. And by that, I mean that more CapEx investments as companies looking to investing more regionally could drive new equipment, while the existing locations will require more aftermarket end upgrades. I think we feel that we're pretty well positioned in the sense that we have always said that our strategy is to be in the region for the region, and we foresee that to continue to be a benefit on us if that trend continues to happen, meaning the reshoring, the reconfiguration of supply chains and everything to be more kind of local-for-local. And so I think ultimately, we continue to be positive in terms of, I guess, we're encouraged about this trend. I think, Josh, the other thing is that not only we look at these external factor trends, but I mentioned that for us, something that we pay a lot of attention to is our own internal leading indicators, such as demand generation and the leads, and we have now created a pretty good way of tools and statistics to be able to predict what could come here in about 6 to 8 weeks. So we have seen that leads that we generate now are a good predictor of what we may see a 6-week indicator of an order. And what we continue to see is that kind of gradual continued improvement, which really correlates very well to some of the improvement that we have seen whether PMI, IP or some of the continued sequential movement on some of these other kind of external trends. So again, I'll just say that maybe what is good to say here is the fact that it's encouraging that whether capacity utilization, IP and everything else seems to be trending the right way from a good sequential improvement month-over-month.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#11

And I guess that anticipated one of the other questions I had related to that on this whole near-shoring topic. I'd like to think we've done a decent amount of work on this, but ultimately, it's still pretty early. I think we're just now starting to enter what you would consider to be the capital planning cycle for 2021. Are you getting, I guess, tangible feedback inquiries, something of the like from customers that would suggest that we could start to get some momentum on this into next year? Or is it still kind of in the ether and waiting to help further down the road?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#12

I will still call it a little bit early. I mean, definitely, we're hearing more about it. And as you very well pointed out as we get closer to the end of the year, and the companies are continuing to do their budgetary under planning for 2021, I am sure that we're going to see more of it. At least based on the initial conversations, maybe still too early. But there's definitely some talks in some of the end markets that we have been more pronounced kind of proactively working through. So so conversations, nothing that I could count on yet, but at least good positive conversations.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#13

And then I guess on the end market side, related to that, I mean, I guess I've always thought of compression as being kind of the fourth utility in a manufacturing environment. So not necessarily betting on one market specifically as it would pertain to your business. But any markets or applications that if they were to come back to the U.S. or North America would be particularly fruitful for Gardner Denver -- I'm sorry, for Ingersoll Rand relative to the broader kind of general industrial set?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#14

I mean I think one of the really good indicators there could, obviously, the pharma industry and particularly as we see -- we've spoken a lot about our focus on oil-free compression. And so the fact that we feel we have a good program, I think a lot of this kind of maybe new investment could prove to be pretty good greenfield ground for us to be able to enter that, penetrate that segment further. Also, I think you said it very well. I mean, the air is the fourth utility and not only manufacturing, but also in places like wastewater treatment facilities. And so our blower technology plays really well on that. So if there is some infrastructure investments that need to happen, and we see a lot of good concentration on mostly around energy efficiency and how the technology that we have now really helps on the energy efficiency. So I think, yes, I mean, I think to your question, definitely, pharma being one, but then also not to forget some of the other kind of larger perhaps infrastructure areas, such as wastewater for municipalities, but also wastewater for private companies or manufacturing companies where they're looking for clearly not only staying within the environmental considerations, but more around sustainability and being able to reduce the energy consumption. And when you think about blowers consuming 60% of the wastewater treatment facility energy. So it is a good way to invest in energy consumption and sustainability performance. So yes. I mean, I think there's quite a few kind of global macro trends that we feel could prove to be good growth vectors for the company.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#15

Got it. That's helpful. And then just switching over to the margin side, maybe one kind of near term, one longer term. I'll start on the synergy front. You guys have accelerated the synergy time line pretty nicely. I think on the 2Q call, you mentioned a run rate of $125 million. So you're kind of half the stated target. How should we think about the milestones for having confidence to increase that? Or the biggest categories where there's perhaps still a little uncertainty that's lingering since you have executed on so much so early in the transaction?

Vikram Kini

executive
#16

Yes, Josh, I mean, you're absolutely correct. Just to take a step backwards here and to ground everyone. You've said it well. We've utilized a lot of the input toolkit like IRX to really accelerate the pace of synergy delivery. And as you said, we've now executed on 50% of our stated $250 million synergy target on an annualized basis. And that's really composed majority of -- coming from the structural side, which is generally the headcount actions taken abate. And here in the second half of 2020, we're going to start to see some of the initial procurement savings from the first wave of the RFPs that we've executed on. And as you've seen it in the margins, you kind of referenced it it's really been a strong catalyst to our margin performance. I mean, we've been keeping decremental at really low levels here to the first half of the year, including 2Q where we are well below 30% for the total company and only an 8% decrementals in the IT&S segment. So if you look forward and kind of some of the areas and opportunities ahead here, we stated that our funnel for savings is in excess of $350 million, and I'd say the largest area that -- for opportunity that lays ahead is on the direct material side, particularly for procurement savings as well as the ITV initiative or innovate to value. And I think in terms of milestones and things like that, that you mentioned for how we should think about -- thinking about that target going forward. The one thing that we're looking for is really, we want to see the volume equation kind of return back to more of a normalized state and generally in line with what we saw back in 2019. We've stated a few times, but just as a reminder, the majority of our synergy funnel was predicated on 2019 volume baseline. And for the majority of 2020 here, we've seen volumes about 15% to 20% below that baseline. So we want to see volume levels kind of get back to that 2019 level before we start calling upside. And until then, we're going to kind of remain prudent and keep the synergy expectation at $250 million, but I think you've kind of seen the track record of the company and we're very much focused on strong quality of earnings that we are going to continue to execute. But that's the way we're thinking about it right now. But I'd say that direct material equation is really the opportunity that lays ahead.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#17

Got it. And then I guess maybe a shorter-term version of that same phenomenon. You did mention, Vik, the strong execution in 2Q on the decrementals. I think there were some temporary savings that were expected to come back or start filtering back into the business in 3Q, $30 million to $35 million, if I'm remembering that right. I guess with the demand environment playing out, largely as expected maybe a little bit better, is that still kind of the target? And how should we think about kind of managing to a decremental margin rate?

Vikram Kini

executive
#18

Yes. No. I mean, you hit it on the head here in terms of what we've managed the decrementals. I mean this has been a strong focus for the company. Like I said, well below 30%. IT&S at 8%, while we saw a lot of the competitive suite, at least the comparisons, upwards in that 40% realm of decrementals, if not higher. So I mean we're quite pleased with how we're trending and performing. To your point, yes, we did indicate that we expected about $30 million to $35 million of those short-term costs to come back into the P&L here, largely in Q3. I think in terms of some of the measures and kind of what we're doing to kind of, let's say, offset some of that headwind or manage it. First, we've been very explosive here that we've been overdriving and accelerating our synergy savings here in 2020, which should continue to help mitigate the impact of some of those costs returning to the P&L. And as I mentioned here in the back half of the year, we do start to see some of those procurement savings and things of that nature are starting to kind of come into the P&L that you really haven't seen in the first half of the year. And I think the other piece here to really mention is that we're taking, I'd say, a very measured and prudent approach to allowing cost to come back in the P&L. And then we're driving that really at the kind of the 8 individual business levels kind of down even lower than the segment level to really manage that. And so we're doing this by tracking reading indicators, which is not just orders, but things like Vicente has mentioned, leads and other metrics that we can look at from a demand generation perspective. And based on that, we're being really prudent on how much cost we let come back in. So again, I think that, yes, we do expect to see some of that cost start to come back in, but I think we're going to be very measured on how much we allow on a business-by-business basis based on the performance.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#19

Got it. That's helpful. And then just shifting over to kind of the broader portfolio, M&A and otherwise, I saw an undisclosed amount acquisition recently, Albin Pump, I believe, maybe take a minute to kind of fill us in on that. And then more broadly, I think this has been described as a market that's pretty fragmented, but the top 3 players are and now kind of top 2 players have been around to roll up that market for a long time. So maybe Vicente, what do you see shifting in the M&A landscape in your core markets that kind of enables more consolidation now with new Ingersoll Rand?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#20

Yes, Josh, I'll say that the M&A pipeline continues to remain quite healthy and is largely comprised of these kind of bolt-on type acquisitions and well there's a good mix of opportunities across both the IT&S and PSC and Precision and Science segment. I will describe our effort as well as the funnel has been a bit more overweight on the precision and science, given a lot of the attractive opportunities across the specialty pump space. And in general, a lot of opportunities that we have been looking at our discount of bolt-on private companies and multiples, I'd say, are -- continue to be pretty quite reasonable. Albin Pump that you mentioned here is a great example. Type of company and multiple pay were very much in line with what you have seen on do from a legacy Gardner Denver perspective for deals like LeROI, DV, MP Pumps. Albin is a very exciting deal, and it allows us to enter in the peristaltic pump space in a more meaningful manner with some good exposure to these niche end markets like water, food, beverage, biopharma. And much like the bolt-ons we have done in the past, the Albin deal brings differentiated technology to the portfolio and one that we did not have. So again, we see strong opportunities for growth as well as margin expansion. And as far as the fragmentation in the market, absolutely, I mean, while Gardner Denver and some of our competitors, we have historically been the largest players and have made a number of acquisitions over time. There are a multitude of smaller players who fit the criteria of having differentiated technology or fitting a white space from a geographical perspective. So again, this continues to be a pretty exciting momentum for us and one that it is allowing us not only to look at our current addressable market, but also look at some of the adjacent markets and look at adjacent technologies that could be also applicable in the mission-critical flow creation space. So again, I think the runway here is substantial and one that we're putting a lot of attention as we are seeing, obviously, the level of the synergy and the integration of the company, kind of getting into good momentum. And that's exactly what we always said. We said we wanted to see the integration to have been a good momentum, and then we'll focus on M&A as well as looking at our portfolio finality.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#21

And I guess on that portfolio optionality, presumably, with kind of trough EBITDA or close to it as we roll the next couple of quarters in. Not as much of a seller in this market? Is that kind of a fair assessment that, that remains on hold?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#22

Yes. You can think about it that way. I mean, we think about it more so from the perspective that it's a catalyst for future value creation and that we -- our focus remains on the integration, delivering the synergies. And here over time, I mean, we're not in a rush, and we're looking for the right moment and kind of the right time to be able to unlock some of the value. And in the meantime, businesses like power tool business, I mean, we have seen orders decline, and we're fixing the business and kind of reassessing not only the rightsizing but also the reprioritization of the investment areas for growing the business. And other businesses like specialty vehicles, obviously segment continues to see really strong momentum. And our focus has been on how do we improve the historical levels of low EBITDA margins and second quarter was obviously the first quarter that we were able to demonstrate 18% EBITDA margins on that segment, something that they have not seen before. And again, how do we continue to improve and sustain that level of margin performance. So yes, I mean, I think not in a rush. And in the meantime, we continue to invest and apply the same principles and processes to get this business better and healthier.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#23

Got it. And then just 2 questions that are in the queue coming in from investors. First, on the pricing front, maybe a read-in by kind of my own opinion. I've always thought of you guys as having pretty decent pricing power across the portfolio. And some of it is fairly technical. But given that there is a lot of excess manufacturing capacity, has there been any identifiable pricing pressure? I guess like EPS is kind of a given, but maybe in the more traditional or kind of core markets what's the pricing outlook look like?

Vikram Kini

executive
#24

Yes, Josh, I would say it still remains relatively strong and a good pricing environment. Despite the COVID environment, when you look at the products we sell, they're mission-critical, low-cost relative to the overall system, they have a very high cost of failure, if they don't operate properly. And they're known for high-quality, reliability and really focused on some of the critical aspects like energy efficiency and total cost of ownership. So even in 2Q, which is probably the best data point in our IT&S and Precision Science Technology segment, both delivered between 1% and 2% net price despite kind of what was going on. So I think that's a good sign and one that what we would expect to kind of carry forward, and I'll just say that you've seen that focus on quality of earnings and pricing as it ever has been a high focus at the legacy Gardner Denver. And I think that as part of the integration we really brought that same toolkit to the entire Ingersoll Rand portfolio. So whether that be pricing controls, around discounting processes, limiting how many people can like change price in the system, measurement tools, looking at measuring price, not just on shipments, but on leading indicators like orders. This is what we're deploying across the entire organization, and we would fully expect that, that will continue to lend itself to good pricing performance across the core segments. You did mention high pressure, which is kind of the anomaly, but I would say IT&S and Precision Science, particularly strong focus, and we should expect to see good performance in those core segments.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#25

Excellent. Well, I appreciate both of you, Vicente and Vik, taking the time today and for putting the effort into joining us in the virtual format. Appreciate it, as always, safe, stay healthy, and we will leave it there.

Vicente Reynal

executive
#26

Thank you. Thank you, Josh. Thanks, everyone.

Joshua Pokrzywinski

analyst
#27

Thank you guys.

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