Ingersoll Rand Inc. (IR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 3, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Machinery conference_presentation 24 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#1

All right. Great. Thank you for sticking with us here. We're in Day 1, afternoon, of the Jefferies Industrial Conference. I'm very pleased to be moving forward with a fireside chat with Ingersoll Rand for this session. So I'm joined by the CEO, Vicente Reynal; and Vikram Kini, who is the CFO. And I think, first of all, welcome, guys. Do you want to make a few opening comments? Or should we just dive right in?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#2

I think we're okay diving in. I mean, just, thank you, again, for inviting us. Great to be here and look forward to the conversation.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#3

Great. Okay, cool. So obviously, you guys just reported the quarter. So I guess, maybe, my first question is just kind of stepping back. And how have your second half expectations changed since you kind of laid them out in April relative to your most recent expectations?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#4

Yes. I say that as you kind of saw on the earnings call, we're very pleased with the results and very excited to see kind of these double-digit organic orders momentum across all the businesses. And I will say that in terms of your questions, we continued sequential order strength across both segments and particularly China, but really in all the regions. And that kind of led us to being able to raise revenue guidance from high single-digit to low double-digit organic revenue growth in both segments, and then also leading to raising the EBITDA midpoint guidance by $30 million to a range of $1.50 billion to $1.18 billion. So good, very pleased with the momentum and kind of the broad based sequential improvement that we saw.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#5

And what are you seeing relative to orders? I mean they look like they're just strong across the board. What do you think is driving it? Is this kind of stuff that was pent up from the last year of not much happening? Or is there something more fundamental happening relative to a CapEx cycle?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#6

I think, Steve, I think what we saw, it was definitely broad-based. And I will attribute to -- there's definitely some good market growth coming through. I don't view it as -- I mean, it could be maybe pent up for the past many years or maybe on the investment in some of the end markets. But in my view, at least we think that a lot of the self-help initiatives that we're doing commercially around new product introduction, we spoke about actually 2 of them on the call, is helping us. So the launches of a lot of these kind of new technologies that we have, in combination with demand generation and the activities that we're going to really, what we call it, instigate the demand and kind of reach out to these very highly fragmented customer base with our digital marketing tools that today, we're seeing thousands of kind of marketing qualified leads per week is really helping us become more effective and efficient in this market. And the last piece is, I'll say, aftermarket. I mean I think we spoke a lot about recurring revenues. We were putting a lot of focus on that. And we still see some -- we're seeing some good momentum on that and some meaningful improvement opportunity. So I'd say, really a good self-help commercial initiatives around technology, with new product launches, demand generation and aftermarket. Those are kind of 3 areas that I think is giving us some good tailwind in this market.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#7

And I guess the other side of the equation, everybody is discussing, is just kind of supply chain bottlenecks of various types. Just kind of let us in just sort of what you're seeing there?

Vikram Kini

executive
#8

Yes, sure. Steve, I'll take that one. So I think like everyone else, we're not immune to what's kind of happening from an overall supply chain perspective, whether it be just inbound materials, whether it be some of the inflationary headwinds that we've discussed on the direct material or logistics side. I think the thing that -- a couple of areas I'll point to here that we've been pretty pleased with at least in terms of the performance. One, we mentioned in our call that we have been price cost positive, and we expect to be for the duration of the year, which I think speaks to, quite frankly, our ability to proactively take some pricing measures, but also some of the mitigating actions we've been able to take in terms of ramping up efforts like I2V and things of that nature, innovate the value in terms of mitigating some of those headwinds. I think in the context of the supply chain in general, I think what we've been really doing here is we run our supply chain processes much like you've seen us run kind of the rest of the organization, using IRX, using kind of this IMPACT Daily Management, IDM approach, really focused on a weekly basis to making sure that we understand kind of what hurdles are ahead of us, and we're thinking out multiple weeks in terms of how we make sure that we have critical supply, on hand, at the right place, at the right time. And as you saw in Q2, I think we were able to kind of, frankly, hit and even, in some cases, surpass probably expectations in the context of topline. So not immune, but I think that a lot of the processes internally are obviously clearly working, and I think we're pretty positive on where we stand right now. As we look forward, and I'll maybe touch on the last piece of that equation, inflation, Yes, obviously, like anyone else, we see, I'd say, direct material and the logistics side of the equation. I think if we take those in kind of pieces, I think on the direct material side, I think, comparatively speaking, we see a bit more stabilization as we get more towards the end of the year. A lot of our inflation on the direct material side is coming from more kind of indexed price increases and things of that nature. So you do have a little bit more visibility, not just what's happening now, but what you can expect to happen in the next 3 to 6 months. I think the piece that obviously we'll continue to watch and that our supply chain team is still kind of, I'd say, expecting to still see inflationary pressures into the first half of next year would probably be more on the logistics side. I think everyone sees kind of some of the China -- the ocean rate kind of -- the rates and things of that nature. I don't think we expect that to significantly kind of diminish, as we move to the back half of this year. We probably still see some of those pressures into the first half of the year. But again, I think we're taking the measures you would expect here. We've taken some proactive pricing measures, examining potential options for the back half of the year. And I think we still feel comfortable kind of like we said last week in terms of staying price cost positive on an overall basis.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#9

And do you think there comes a point -- I mean I would imagine that there's some portion of your backlog that's pretty long kind of project-type business, probably can't get repriced. So does there come a time when the price cost is a headwind for a quarter or 2? Or can you just kind of manage right through it?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#10

I think at point in time, Steve, with everything that we're seeing, we expect to still being able to manage. I mean even on top of what Vik mentioned there, the efforts that you have seen us do around I2V, which is a pretty unique process that we have, that we're adding on to a lot of the companies that we're acquiring as well as doing that with Ingersoll Rand. We have a meaningful funnel of activities on the I2V that will help us continue to manage that direct material cost side of the equation. So I think, at least at this point in time, we still expect that we're very agile and nimble, and we'll continue to react to ever-changing market conditions. And whether it is, with some of the price increases, but at the same time, some of the cost measures that we're doing to drive some good earnings momentum.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#11

Okay. Good to hear. And then just to put a slightly finer point on it, in terms of supply chain bottlenecks, is that primarily affecting your customers who then sort of slow down what they want from you? Or do you have sort of semi-finished goods waiting for certain components or parts that once you get them, you can ship out?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#12

I think it's more of the latter, I would say, that maybe semi-finished goods, are might be waiting for 1 or 2 components. And then for us to ship it, I would say, not in a meaningful kind of way, but it's just kind of going through -- continue to increase the capacity in our factories to be able to deliver the outpaced growth momentum that we're seeing in orders. And -- but I don't think it is much of that, customer is just kind of holding on, on their side. At least, not at this point.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#13

Okay. All right. And then just switching over to the PST business. Any different trends to call out there?

Vikram Kini

executive
#14

I wouldn't point to anything dramatically different, Steve. I mean I think, generally speaking, the same kind of dynamics we're talking about, whether it be price cost, whether it be some of the inflationary headwinds on the supply chain, nuances that Vicente spoke to. I think they're fairly consistent between, frankly, the 2 segments. I think with regards to how we're operating through it and how we're expecting the back half of the year to play itself out, again, I think very similar in terms of the operational context. I will also mention, and in the context of PST, maybe one of the things that we did mention on our call, I'd say that we're still going to continue to invest through this. We made a pretty meaningful commitment in terms of an investment, specifically on hydrogen side of our business, which is kind of one of those growth areas we've been talking about from an organic development perspective that we're quite excited about. So we did announce a $45 million anticipated investment, $10 million of which comes over the next 12-plus months to really expand capacity as well as some technology investments really to serve that market as we see the funnel getting much bigger. So I think a lot of what we've talked about historically in terms of investing organically, seeing a lot in the pipeline, particularly in hydrogen, you're now seeing us investing to be able to kind of fulfill that, that growth as we see going forward. So -- but again, in terms of the supply chain nuances and everything else, nothing terribly dissimilar between the 2 segments.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#15

Okay. And that -- those investments sound like maybe you're seeing a slight margin headwind for the next few quarters?

Vikram Kini

executive
#16

Yes. I think in the context of PST, at least in the back half of the year, obviously, there will be a little bit of a margin headwind, comparatively speaking, of course, if we hadn't chosen to make those investments. Just to be very clear, that $10 million is not all OpEx, it's a portion of capital as well as kind of operating expense. But I think, quite frankly, the growth we see in this space, the size of the funnel and what we see as a multiyear runway here, we -- obviously, for us, the economics here make all the sense in the world in terms of the level of investment and the payback that we'd expect to see over the next few years. A short-term headwind, yes, but I think a meaningful payback as we think out 2, 3, 4 years.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#17

Okay. Makes sense. And then you guys have been somewhat active on the M&A front in this business. So what's the early read on how that's going, synergy-wise, sales synergies, maybe that's too early, but just thoughts around that?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#18

Yes, in particular, Steve, around the overall or PST segment by itself?

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#19

Whichever you prefer.

Vicente Reynal

executive
#20

Yes. Yes.

Vikram Kini

executive
#21

Maybe I'll start, and Steve you're talking simply about the 2 deals we've announced recently, Seepex and Maximus. I think our -- yes. So I think -- yes, I mean, very pleased. I think, frankly, these are, I think, kind of the assets you've seen us talk about the size of the funnel, the kind of profile of companies we're looking for in terms of higher growth, sustainable end-market focus, good aftermarket, digital revenue streams, even Software-as-a-Service type in the context of these assets. That's exactly kind of where Seepex and Maximus both fall. So both our Q3 -- that we expect to close in Q3. In fact, Maximus actually closed last Friday. So interesting enough, we're one day into kind of now ownership or 2 days into ownership of Maximus. And I think in terms of the integration, what's really interesting here and I think we spoke about this a little bit during our earnings call, is that we don't wait for day 1 of closing for these deals to start getting integrated. We've talked about, very explicitly, IRX and kind of this IDM process. And really for acquisitions, what this looks like is we're starting something like 60 to 90 days in advance, where we're really putting together the full integration kind of playbook, running it through an IDM process, and it's focused on exactly the areas you would expect, demand generation, cost synergies, the integration lanes, systems, people, so forth and so on. And generally speaking, for the first 30 days, we get it set up, we're running internally, probably about 30 days prior to the close. We actually bring on the target, and they're actually doing it hand-in-hand with us. Such that day 1, we can turn the reins over and they're running the playbook and running integration from day 1. So the great news here is this is how we kind of get a head start, frankly, on all integration processes. If we go back, this is exactly how we did the Gardner Denver Ingersoll Rand merger. It's also how we did the Tuthill acquisition and the merger -- the Tuthill acquisition earlier this year. And I can say we acquired them on February, here we are in August, and they're already seamlessly integrated, frankly, into ERP systems. It's been about a smoother if transition, as you can expect. So again, running that same playbook for both Seepex and Maximus, and I would tell you we see great traction here, as we look to integrate those 2 assets, and we're really excited about adding them to portfolio.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#22

Okay. Great. And how would you characterize the funnel? I mean, obviously, there was one very large one that seemed to be working its way through in some way, shape or form that I don't know if that still is or not. But what does the rest of the funnel look like to you?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#23

Yes. Steve, as we -- it's looking pretty strong. As we said on the call earlier, on the earnings call, it is 5x what it used to be basically a year ago from -- in terms of size. And that actually is excluding the 32 deals that we passed in the second quarter, and we're going to talk more about why we passed on those. It also excludes Seepex and Maximus because obviously, they're now into the signed transaction, and it also excludes SPX Flow. So I think we have a pretty sizable, meaningful funnel. Now we kind of characterize as high-quality assets, very similar to, I would say, the Seepex and Maximus in terms of being able to deliver organic growth, great gross margin, portfolio of technologies that are complementary to what we have. And they're kind of more bolt-on to medium size in nature and nothing that we consider at this point in time transformative.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#24

Okay. And since you mentioned it for the ones that you do pass on, are there any common kind of lessons from that?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#25

I'll say maybe a couple of things. One of them definitely valuations. I mean we've been very disciplined, and we're decisive and disciplined in this market. And as we evaluate and we feel that valuation is just too high for us to even think about it than we just passed. And so that speaks to the very good diligence and kind of due diligence process that we go through to ensure that the financials are not only kind of what happened in the past, but also what we see moving forward. And if we don't see that ability to get to our financial thresholds, which is basically mid-teens ROIC by year 3 or post-synergy multiple of kind of high single digits by year 3 or 4, then we just kind of don't consider those companies to be in our funnel.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#26

Okay. All right. Good. So maybe we'll back up a little bit. I mean you guys have been through a lot of change over the last couple of years from the RMT and selling off some assets, et cetera. So maybe a couple of things with that. I mean, I guess you were targeting about $250 million of cost synergies following the RMT and you talked about upsizing that a little bit. And then I think you've also mentioned that there could be sort of further upside depending on volume. And I guess volume is in your favor now. So just kind of your thinking around that?

Vikram Kini

executive
#27

Sure. Yes. Maybe -- yes, I think you summarized it well, Steve. We had an original cost synergy target of $250 million as part of the merger. I think probably fair to say and I described kind of how we did a lot of the integration work. Clearly, we got out of the gates really quickly. And I think we were able to really outpace, quite frankly, our original expectations. But really strong execution across the board. And we mentioned that we have a funnel that's kind of in excess of $350 million. And at the beginning of this year, we mentioned that we're raising the target to $300 million. So now we're kind of executing towards a $300 million target. You are right. I think that the area that probably has the biggest opportunity, it's always kind of been the biggest opportunity in the funnel is in the realm of direct material, whether it be procurement savings from kind of a classical procurement blocking and tackling perspective or the I2V side in the context of redesigning products, taking costs out, things of that nature. Yes. I think we've said that as volumes start to get back to 2019 levels, that would probably be the single biggest potential tailwind in the context of potentially thinking about doing something higher than $300 million. I think right now, frankly, just given what -- and I'll say the same teams who are executing across a lot of those procurement supply chain measures are frankly the same teams who we are talking to about mitigating inflationary headwinds and logistics challenges and things of that nature. So I think we're very encouraged by seeing where the volumes are trending. I would say, yes, that does potentially lend itself to some potential tailwind in the context of potentially over-delivering. I think right now, we still feel that $300 million is quite prudent. We want to see kind of how the balance of this year continues to play itself out, and we'll revisit this as we get towards the end of the year. Could there potentially be some upside opportunity of that $300 million? Sure. And I think that you've seen, we're not standing still, we're going to execute against it. I think the direct material and really the footprint side of the equation are kind of the 2 last legs in the context of that funnel that are allowed to be executed. We have a strong pathway to $300 million. And if there's opportunity to upsize, absolutely, we'll do that. I think right now, just given the kind of totality of what the teams are working through, particularly on the procurement and supply chain side, we're staying prudent with the $300 million, and we'll revisit as we get closer to the end of the year.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#28

So am I hearing that sort of supply chain conditions have to normalize a little bit before they can kind of get back at it? Or is that not?

Vikram Kini

executive
#29

I mean, I think that's a piece of it. I mean rest assured here, I think the teams are executing, as you would expect. I do think we want to see how things normalize, how things stabilize in the context of the overall supply chain equation before we kind of take that next step on wherever the synergies may head to. But I think the good news here is, yes, the funnel still sits in that $350 million-plus range. As I've said before, not every opportunity in the funnel is going to translate to the bottom line. But I think we have a lot of good opportunities that the team continues to build upon, particularly in areas like I2V that we have a high degree of confidence in. But I think at the same time, we're going to remain prudent for the time being until we get a little closer to the end of the year, and we'll think about kind of where that kind of that opportunity resizes to.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#30

Okay. And then I guess just on portfolio mix, maybe there's sort of 1 or 2 businesses that don't obviously fit quite as well. But I'm sort of curious within the 2 segments, the IT&S and PST, are there sort of onesie, twosies in there that might need to be divested or less focused going forward? Or are you pretty happy with the portfolio?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#31

No, I think we're pretty happy. I mean I think we were very open into saying that when we did the R&D, we carved out some businesses that within maybe long term, not kind of align with where we want to be, and that was basically high-pressure HPS, which has been divested since then or transacted Specialty, the Club Car business transacted. And then the third business, it was the Power Tool business. And we have been very vocal that last year, we were very focused on fixing the profitability and it's just been a phenomenal margin improvement story. And this year, very focused on growth. And again, very good story so far. So I think we have positioned that business for some very good kind of performance and now we'll evaluate the next steps in terms of what we do with that business.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#32

So just from a management perspective, Vicente, are you the type of person who would say, I love this business because it's just a cash cow and I can use it to fund other things, even though it's not really core? Or would you rather kind of get everybody focused on things that are core?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#33

I tend to like to get everyone focused on what's the core and how do we really create value from the assets as holistic view that -- and we see just a lot of meaningful potential here that with IT&S and PST, 2 different segments, but still there's a lot of things that we could do by being able to leverage the technology portfolio. So yes, so I'm more of a big believer of just focus on the core and improve your core businesses to be able to be those cash flow generation companies that they can enhance the entire portfolio.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#34

Okay. Great. And we just have, I think, about 4 -- 3, 4 minutes left, but I want to just bring up ESG. It feels like you guys sort of focus on that more than average. And I know you just put out a pretty detailed sustainability report. Just what are sort of the highlights from your perspective?

Vicente Reynal

executive
#35

Yes, Steve, I think we're excited that we're going to have also an Investor Call on Friday this week to just go and deep dive or kind of give investors a deeper look into how we're executing to our ambitious goals and targets and what we have done so far. So yes, I think I would classify it as, we're a company that, based on our technology, we're very focused on the environmental side. You'll see that on Friday that we have a really high percentage of our total portfolio that touches water, and we'll be able to talk about that. And -- but also, it's not only about what we do with the products and some of the greenhouse gas emission targets that we're going to be -- that we're putting in that are ambitious, but we have a good game plan on how to get them. But also what we do on the S and the G, I mean, the social and governance side when you see what we have done with diversity, equity and inclusion that at the Board level, 50% diversion whether gender or ethnicity are into Hispanics and African-American to females and all by bringing in great domain expertise, right? I mean, I think our Board are classified as it has been very thoughtful position just to bring very domain expertise that is aligned with our strategic imperatives. And same thing now with our executive management team, 43% diverse, similar, ethnicity or gender. And in addition to that, what we do to our employee base with the equity and how much we believe that this is almost like an inverted pyramid from thinking that the underrepresented population that typically happens to be in the workforce, we want to give them the equity. So they can have that skin in the game and the ability to be able to build some wealth for themselves, the family and the communities, which I think is holistically helping the sustainability of the entire company.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#36

Good. All right. Well, that basically takes us to our 25 minutes. It always flies right by, but thanks for the preview of the Friday meeting. We'll certainly look forward to that. But thank you so much for doing this. And we will see you on Friday.

Vicente Reynal

executive
#37

Thank you. Thanks, Steve.

Stephen Volkmann

analyst
#38

Cheers. Bye-bye.

Vikram Kini

executive
#39

Bye-bye.

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