InMed Pharmaceuticals Inc. (INM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 31, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
John Heerdink
attendeeGood morning, everyone. This is John Heerdink, and I'm the managing member of Tribe Public. Thank you for joining us today, and for being part of the Tribe. We are -- we have the Tribe webinar event today, CEO presentation and Q&A event is titled, InMed Pharmaceuticals: Addressing the increasing demand for rare cannabinoids. As many of you know, in addition to me being a managing partner of Tribe Public, I'm also the Managing Director California RIA called -- or registered investment advisor called Vista Partners. Note that I'm an investor in InMed Pharmaceuticals. And to see a complete list of disclaimers, please go to the Tribe's website www.tribepublic.com and/or visit Vista Partners' website, which is www.vistapglobal.com. Note that the Tribe Public's mission is to aggregate the voice of investors in order to attract management teams from the world's most interesting and groundbreaking companies across all sectors that are primarily listed on the New York Stock Exchange and/or NASDAQ. Although we do get the occasional brilliant leader that's -- from a private company or just brilliant leader like we've had Nobel Prize winner in medicine in the past, we do this so that you, the Tribe, may learn and making prudent investment decisions and business decisions as you move forward. Again, I appreciate all of you being a part of this process. And please invite others to join us. Right now, we've had over 27 countries. Our members from 27 countries have joined us over the last few years. Our members include retail traders, analysts, portfolio managers, brokers, advisers, family offices and credit investors and members of media. We invite all to continue to interact with us at the Tribe through our wish list process, which is where our Tribe members voice their interest in meeting the CEOs and leaders of the companies and industry that they care about. And you can do that at the Tribe website, www.tribepublic.com. Our meetings come in the form of this webinar events, like today, and also now an in-person corporate sponsored lunch and the dinner events in Tribe cities across the U.S. Look forward to seeing you soon on both formats. Today, we have a number of questions that the Tribe has submitted as we have encouraged all prior to the event, and also note that this event will last around 30 -- approximately 30-plus minutes. [Operator Instructions] Now without further ado, please note we have 2 distinguished members of the management team of InMed Pharmaceuticals. Again, it's symbol is INM, and it trades on the NASDAQ. InMed Pharmaceuticals is a global leader in the development, manufacturing and commercialization of rare cannabinoids. First, we have Eric Adams, who's the Chief Executive Officer and President of InMed Pharmaceuticals, who is a seasoned pharmaceuticals executive with over 30 years' experience in capital formation, global market development, mergers and acquisitions, licensing and corporate governance. Prior to becoming CEO of InMed, Mr. Adams previously served as CEO at enGene Inc. in Vancouver and held senior positions in global market development with QLT, with great success, and Abbott Laboratories and Fresenius AG in Germany. Secondly, we have Jerry Griffin, he's the VP Sales and Marketing, and he comes to us today with a wealth of experience across various markets with numerous cannabinoid products and a proven track record as seasoned sales executive. He's held several senior positions at both privately and publicly held companies, including Fortune 500 companies. Now let's get started with your questions.
John Heerdink
attendeeFirstly, Eric, before we held in the commercial business, for those new to the InMed Pharmaceuticals' story, can you please spend a few minutes to explain InMed's unique business and where InMed's commercial operation fits the company structure?
Eric Adams
executiveSure, John, and thanks for having us. And again, great to be back as the -- in front of the Tribe and presenting updates on our company. So we do have some slides presented. We try to tailor these a little bit to some of the questions that came in so that we can address specifically what those interests are. As a NASDAQ-listed company, it's important that everyone memorize the forward-looking statements. Again, we're traded on the NASDAQ and use the symbol, INM, and we will be using forward-looking statements in this presentation. So InMed Pharmaceuticals is one of the few pure-play rare cannabinoid companies that exist today. We have R&D, research and development of pharmaceutical compounds based on this class of compound called cannabinoids. We have very extensive manufacturing know-how, probably more so than any other company out there. We also are in drug discovery. So we are inventing new cannabinoids that we think can enhance the activity against specific diseases. And as Jerry will talk to in a few moments, we also have an interesting commercial business in the health and wellness space. InMed traditionally has been just a straight-up pharmaceutical company. All of our compounds are targeting diseases with unmet needs, and we'll be going through the clinical trial process for FDA approval eventually with our various compounds. We have a Phase II clinical trial that just completed and we're getting ready for data readout there. We have, in total, 3 pharmaceutical drug development programs. And we have our own manufacturing approach that we think is very interesting for pharmaceutical-grade cannabinoids. We started discussions with a company called BayMedica in South San Francisco a number of years ago, over 2 years ago. And it just seemed like a very nice dovetailing of efforts between our know-how and theirs. In particular, they have this commercial business, that's a B2B business, in the health and wellness sector. Additionally, they have an extensive library of cannabinoid analog. So taking the natural compounds and augmenting them in a way to increase their efficacy against diseases. And they all had very significant manufacturing know-how in both chemical synthesis and biosynthesis. So we acquired the company about 1.5 years ago and really wanted to integrate certain parts of it into the drug development side of things, while keeping the commercial business to business alive and thriving for the health and wellness industry. So when I talk about these 2 companies, InMed is the pharmaceutical hub, BayMedica is the health and wellness over-the-counter products division. As I said, we have 3 -- we have several pharmaceutical R&D programs for rare cannabinoids. Starting with a use the naturally occurring cannabinoids, CBN. We're looking at that in 2 specific diseases. One is epidermolysis bullosa, which is a very debilitating skin disease. That's the 755 program. And we just completed a Phase II trial, and we'll have a data readout in the next couple of months. The second program is an eye drop formulation for glaucoma called the 088 program. And that's still preclinical, and we're looking at entering human clinical trials in 2024. But now that we've invented a number of new cannabinoid analog. So again, this is taking the naturally occurring compound, altering in a way that it increases its efficacy or safety or both in looking at other diseases. So we're looking at ocular diseases such as age-related macular degeneration or AMD, and we also have a very interesting research program that we launched in neurodegenerative diseases such as Alzheimer's. That's the 900 series. In addition to that, we have several others. So it's a very interesting class of compounds that can have effects throughout the body, and we're trying to really understand what those are. So I'm going to turn over to Jerry and let him walk you through the BayMedica side, which has been a very interesting business for us and has really sprouted its wings and started to fly over the last -- the course of the last year. Jerry?
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes. Thanks, Eric.
John Heerdink
attendeeJerry, thanks again for joining us, and it's nice to put a name on the face as we spoke. We haven't really been able to meet you before. So it is an honor, and I look forward to meeting in person someday here in San Francisco. Jerry, most viewers might not be very familiar with rare cannabinoids and where they fit into both the cannabis and health and wellness industry. I think it's safe assume that, that might be the case. And can you give us a little bit of overview of the commercial opportunity for rare cannabinoids and what types of companies are even using them, and what type of products that it might be even used in, I think that would be a great place to start.
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes, of course. John, just echoing what Eric said, yes, thanks so much for having us. It's great to meet you as well. We're happy to be here. We're on Slide 6, yes. So John, I can imagine -- you can imagine, I get asked this question quite a bit. And I guess the best way to start to dimension the opportunity for rare cannabinoid is through a quick biology lesson. Each person on the planet has a homeostatic regulatory system in their body is called the endocannabinoid system, or ECS for short. And this system is made up of cannabinoid receptors that are present on all human cell types. Now most health and wellness issues in the human body involve the disruption of homeostasis somewhere. And it's been said -- and if you like, after this I can send you the citation, but it's been said that modulating the ECS likely has therapeutic potential in almost all disease affecting humans. So that said, the rare cannabinoids that we produce, which are right up here on the slide, work in concert with the ECS to support different health and wellness outcomes. So in terms of the opportunity, every person on this planet can benefit from rare cannabinoids as part of their health and wellness regimen. So suffice it to say, it's a huge opportunity, right? And I don't detract from what I just said but understanding of the ECS is incomplete and it's very complex. It was only just discovered in the 1990s. But what we do know is that the latest research supports the thesis that these are very powerful compounds with the potential to have monumental impact on human health and wellness. As for the types of companies, we have a broad spectrum of end customers, from large publicly held cannabis companies to nutraceutical companies to traditional consumer packaged good companies. And we sell to these customers through a network of distributors who help us cover the U.S. market. Now our end customers, which is the customers that our distribution partners sell to, sell any number of form factors, including beverages, edibles, smokables, topicals and some more unique type of form factors. And the products target, as you would expect, health and wellness outcomes or sometimes they act as functional ingredients, like providing physical energy. We do see a lot where they're used for potentiation. So what I mean by that, I guess, is contributing to the measured effect of the product in question. We also see in some cases where they're used as preservative and sometimes even as a stability agent. So you'll see a compound being used for -- one of our molecules being used for potentiation, but oh, by the way, it also sees a preservative in the formulation. Or it's being used to -- for a specific use case, but oh, by the way, it can be used to prevent the formula from crystallizing as a result of other cannabinoids in the formulation that have a tendency to go towards being crystals. Beyond that, you certainly have medical practitioners who are using the most recent research to the best of their abilities to guide their patients towards cannabinoid-based therapies, for whatever it may be that ails them. And those customers -- those patients buy their products from our customers because there's very few pharmaceutical -- cannabinoid-based pharmaceuticals on the market today. And obviously, InMed's looking to change that. So again, the commercial opportunity is massive. And if you fold in the pharma opportunity into this, InMedica and BayMedica -- or InMed and BayMedica are combined -- their combined efforts are touching most, if not all, segments of the addressable market. So I hope that answers your question. I'm sorry, gravity is not my strong suit.
John Heerdink
attendeeNo. You maybe touched on this, but sort of the follow-up question to that is, what sort of trends are you seeing in innovation and product development out there? Maybe expand upon that.
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes. I mean what we're seeing or what we're starting to see, John, is a trend towards traditional CPG, right? That model. So -- and what I mean by that is if you look at any products on the aisles of CVS or Duane Reade, you don't see Colgate toothpaste as the only thing on the front of that label, you don't see herbal essence and shampoo as the only thing on the front of that label. These products are differentiated by unique ingredients that add value to the product. So you might see hand lotion and right below it, you might see something like calendula or oat milk, which add value to the product and makes the consumer kind of discern between the value of one product versus another in their estimation. And that's what you're starting to see in the cannabinoid space. Cannabinoids are making their way to the front of the label. And brands are figuring out how to communicate certain claims about the ingredients that add value to their products and differentiate them on the store shelves. Now everybody has heard the proverb necessity is the mother of invention, and I think that's in play right now as well. It's a very cash-constrained environment out there, as you can imagine. And the brands, though, they really need to continue to innovate. They need to continue to stay relevant. So what you're seeing is innovative new products being launched that are really retreads of existing form factors, but with the introduction of rare cannabinoids to make those products different and better. Now these products have the ability to draw in new customers. They have the ability to raise the product's price point at retail. And by extension, they have the ability to create additional margin for the brand. Versus, I guess, the alternative, which is sinking a lot of capital into creating a brand-new product with no guarantee that, that product will actually sell through at retail. I don't mean that it makes it sound easy at all. I mean cannabinoids are fickle. They're biphasic, and it takes know-how to formulate with them correctly. But again, the alternative of building a product from zero can cost a brand a lot of precious capital and there's no real guarantees that they're going to get a return on that investment.
John Heerdink
attendeeInteresting. So as a follow-up to that, If I was -- well, right now, these types of products that are in the market that are used in rare cannabinoids to make themselves more attractive, more valuable, more useful, what have you, where would one go to pick up these? And what form -- what types of products are they in today?
Gerard Griffin
executiveI mean the short answer to your question is that kind of consumer product that you see on the shelves, there is a cannabinoid version of that somewhere, right? The use cases, as I mentioned, kind of early on in this are very, very broad by nature of this system that you have in your body that's on all human cells, that have receptors on all human cells. And so the research is trailing out. But every day, we learn new things. And these cannabinoids are being harnessed for a specific usage in a specific CPG product to do a specific thing or multiple things, right? Sometimes they can have a broad spectrum of effect. So you see things as simple as a gummy. You see things that are lotions and topicals that address different use cases for the skin. You see things that are used for -- and I have to be careful how I kind of approach this because we certainly don't want to be making any kind of claims that would fly a fall the FDA, but certainly addressing a lot of use cases that -- or things that people would use -- the alternatives would be things that are typically in people's medicine cabinets, right, over the counter stuff, right? So you're seeing kind of alternatives to that, right, for different things at ails people. So did I answer your question? Or...
John Heerdink
attendeeYes. No, I think so. And I think it's a growing store, right? And that probably, as this uptick that we've seen in pick up in the space and specifically at BayMedica and InMed here, and demand that you've reported in the last 3 quarters, I believe that's going to it become more and more obvious in the marketplace which these products are.
Gerard Griffin
executiveSure. Yes.
John Heerdink
attendeeNow the next question sort of dovetails off that says you mentioned synthetic versus naturally derived and filling the supply gap in the industry. Can you please explain the relevance of this to the drug?
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes, sure. This is kind of a loaded one, but let me see if I can be as concise as possible. The plant, the cannabis plant, is a very good factory for making certain cannabinoids. Cannabinoids like THC, CBD and even CBG, the plant does a really, really good job of this. The plan also has been bred to make a lot of these cannabinoids. And these cannabinoids are actually pretty easy to separate from the plant via traditional extraction. Now if you look at some of the cannabinoids that we produce, CBC or THCV, for example, these could be really difficult to produce at a mass market scale. They either exist in rather small amounts in the plant that requires a tremendous amount of biomass to create any useful quantities. And then, of course, you need the requisite infrastructure to grow them in the first place. Or they're just difficult to extract and isolate at scale. And in some cases, these cannabinoids have both of these problems, right? They're not represented well in the plant. And oh, by the way, it's really difficult to separate them from all the other stuff that comes out of traditional plant extraction. So we, as a company, endeavor to solve this problem by taking the plant out of it and allowing the brands to deliver products that include these powerful cannabinoids at mass market scale in a -- that would otherwise not be possible. Does that make sense?
John Heerdink
attendeeThat makes sense. I guess going to the slide you had up there. The next slide, I think was Slide 7 regards what I've mentioned, the positive revenue trend as you titled it here. What -- why do you think this has happened? Can you give us an overview of what this means to the company and what you've experienced here, because this is a pretty impressive growth in a relative period of time?
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes. I appreciate you noticing Yes, let me frame my answer around what happened last year. 2022 was a building year for us. We had to make very sure that we could scale production and ultimately operationally digest the opportunity we felt we could create with our go-to-market plan. We also felt we could offer a lot of value by being a reliable supply chain partner, providing a frictionless buying experience and ultimately setting the standard. There wasn't really a standard in the industry, everybody is just trying kind of figure it out. But to be able to kind of back that, it takes a little time, right? So we spent a lot of 2022 doing that. We also needed to build a sales funnel. We needed to get in front of our target customers, and we needed to fire up our marketing engine to not only create additional demand, but we also needed to normalize the use of synthesized cannabinoids. So that took a fairly heavy lift from a marketing perspective and just generally educating consumers and the brands that we sell to. Now in 2023, we're starting to see all that pay off. As you can see on the slide, we've grown revenue over the last 2 quarters, including a 46% increase from Q1 to Q2 and triple-digit growth from Q2 to Q3 to the tune of 120%. Now our best guess is that Q1 to Q2 was the inflection point we've been waiting for. And we are in kind of the shaft phase of the hockey stick growth curve, right? So going like that, and we're in this kind of explosive growth shaft phase of that chart. And I guess I'll say we have a bit of a perch above the entire cannabinoid value chain, meaning that we can see all activity across all the different segments. And it looks like we could end up with a very, very long hockey stick, which is great, of course. But I played hockey and typically the guys that are on the ice with the longer sticks are typically also the ones that play a lot of defense. So we are certainly keeping an eye on new entrants into the market and any other potential disruptive forces. So in support of this, in support of what we expect could be this kind of very long hockey stick, we're increasing manufacturing volumes from hundreds of kilos a year to metric tons a year. And for those listening, for the Tribe, a metric ton is 1,000 kilos. So we're going from hundreds of kilos a year to thousands kilos a year to ensure that we don't have the same supply gaps we've been experiencing recently. Now Eric, if you can move to Slide 8, I'd appreciate it. Perfect. Thank you. Now I guess in terms of drivers, the largest driver behind the increased demand has been consumer education, which we, by our marketing engine, and others in the industry have contributed to. And we've also seen very large companies with really big voices launching products with their cannabinoids on the front of the label, right? If you go back over the last 6 months, you can find press releases from the likes of Cronos and [ Willow ] and Organogram and TAPs and many others that are announcing their respective launches of their cannabinoid products. So that, of course, raises a lot of awareness, right? But I think most importantly, the consumers have spoken with their wallets. Rare cannabinoid products have been on the shelves for the last few quarters, and we're seeing sales velocity. The brands are seeing sales velocity. And so what you're getting now is a lot of fast followers starting to pile in and bringing their own market -- or their own products to market at a pretty steady clip. So what you can see on the slide, today with the growth of CBG and CBN is what we think CBC will likely do in the next 24 months or less. And I get the feeling that most people are surprised by this growth. But candidly, we're not. Our founders did a really, really good job of building our initial customer base. And I came along, and I put a little more structure and process between behind the sales and marketing functions, but we always knew that the figures would start to catch in the market. And ultimately, by virtue of everything we did in '22, we were ready now that things have started to really happen. We've got really no reason to believe CBC won't be as big as some of these other cannabinoids that are stepped in the spotlight, i.e., CBG and CBN. But my personal belief is CBC can fairly well become a key ingredient in all cannabinoid formulations. It's a -- one of our founders like to say, it's a very promiscuous cannabinoid from a receptorology perspective. And it brings a lot of value to a lot of formulations, if not all formulations. So if I'm right, CBC can easily leapfrog CBG, definitely could leapfrog CBG, and possibly CBD in terms of popularity. And again, this hockey stick could get very, very long.
John Heerdink
attendeeIs there -- there is growing understanding and this confidence that you have in making that statement. What is -- are there -- can you point us to where that understanding is growing from and where that is -- is it being published in different journals? Or what is growing this understanding and this confidence that you have?
Gerard Griffin
executiveWell, for us, as an ingredient supplier, right, we sit at the kind of very top of the value chain, right? You've got ingredients up here and you've got finished products all the way down here. So we have a perch. We can see everything that's going on. We get all the inquiries, right? We feel all of the different types of customers that come in. And we have a tendency to be able to see it all and just a short volume of opportunity that's presenting itself is our best indicator. But again, certainly, if you look at Cronos, right, those guys don't do anything by accident or don't fall backwards into a product and just kind of just push things out and hope for the best, right? Those guys are beacons for the rest of the industry. And to see them put out a CBC product is pretty -- is a pretty good indicator to the rest of the market that they should be looking at this a lot closer. So all of those things combined lead us to the kind of conclusion that this could get pretty wild pretty quickly.
John Heerdink
attendeeSo Jerry, you're an expert in this area, you just threw out Cronos. I think there's a lot of folks on the Tribe that may not know that name for whatever reason. Can you help us understand why Cronos is a leader in this, who they are, what they're about, maybe that can help solidify our understanding.
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes. I mean Cronos is one of the largest publicly held cannabis companies in the world. They are a Canadian licensed producer, right? So because of the federal legality in the Canadian market, they're able to be traded on a U.S. market, and I think they're NASDAQ traded. So they're just a very large operator. They've been there since the beginning. They are very well known for kind of just their knowledge, their understanding of cannabinoid science and cannabis science. And again, they're kind of a beacon to the rest of the industry. There's a few others that are similarly situated for sure. And I just kind of threw their name out there. But what is really actually interesting about them though is they did go to market, synthesized cannabinoid as one of their first major pushes into rare cannabinoid products, which, of course, we'd love to see, right? Again, it's a great indicator that things are -- this is all starting to normalize and that this market could get pretty huge.
John Heerdink
attendeeWell, with this increased demand that you have now and that it sounds like you're anticipating significant growth from here, do you have -- can you speak to the capacity and the ability to fulfill this?
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes, absolutely. We spent a lot of time in 2022, thinking about this. We looked at all the available business intelligence and all the potential ways that we could assess the current market size or where the market could go. We looked at some of these kind of cannabinoids you see on the screen and what they were doing. And we made some bets as to where this thing was going to go. And we -- the first few quarters, things happened really, really fast, first few quarters of 2023. We weren't expecting to have 10x increase in demand as quickly as it happened. But we were ready. And so we knew that we could scale. We knew it would take a little -- a few months to get us where we need to go. But I would say by mid-August, we're going to be able to support the current market size, the current opportunity. And we'll be positioned to -- for additional step-ups in demand should they come.
John Heerdink
attendeeOkay. Can you give us also a little bit of clarity as to what is the competitive landscape look like in this industry? Are you seeing anybody else out there that you're having sort of fight in the marketplace? Or what is that situation currently?
Gerard Griffin
executiveNo, it's -- I'm sorry to use this. But for last and lack of a better term, the industry is very incestuous. It's fragmented and it's not dominated by any single one player. And we're all cooperative competitors, right? And I talk a lot about this concept of coompetition, right? And that's kind of where the industry is at today. And I think it's what is necessary for an industry as nascent as this is to survive. Everybody needs to be working together. Everybody's helping each other. Everybody needs to be kind of rolling in the same direction, if you will. It doesn't mean that we can't compete at the product level. It doesn't mean that we can't have overlap in our offerings and all those things. But generally speaking, we're all working together at some level. Now certainly, I think you could see some consolidation in the future. But I think it's more likely what you're going to see is like dominant players from traditional -- the traditional ingredient world step into this. And I don't necessarily mean Dow or somebody like that, I really mean more like big flavor and fragrance houses like Firmenich or Symrise. I could see those guys easily stepping in and start to acquire cannabinoid manufacturers like BayMedica. Now I will say that among our distribution partners, there are certainly some players that do really, really well in certain areas of the value chain, like finished product manufacturing and formulating and things of that nature. But really, it's still anyone's game at this point. And we're happy to just be working with them all. So I think that answers your question.
John Heerdink
attendeeYes. I think it does. I think going -- getting back to sort of the capacity question is what do you -- can you throw out sort of what you believe your annualized capacity, current annualized capacity ability is right now? And if demand continues to rise, can you meet it? Can you -- this growth, this is pretty significant growth. So as we saw, and I think it was Slide 6, everybody is looking at BayMedica and they're coming to you. And also sort of related to that, are you considered the high-quality, low-cost competitor? Or how would you -- where do you -- where are you in the framework?
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes. Well, I guess, first things first, right? Look, a 10x increase in demand year-over-year is a very difficult thing to adjust to. And so we had to do a lot of things to kind of prepare, as I've mentioned, but also kind of adjust to that in pretty short order. So first things that we've done is we've definitely focused on our kind of loyal existing customer base and made very sure that we were servicing those customers to the best of our ability, right? So right now, we're not doing any demand generation, any new demand generation, meaning like we're not going out and looking to identify new customers. We're really just kind of taking what comes organically and making sure we're servicing our existing accounts. So scale up, right, of that magnitude, right, requires everything to get augmented, right? You need additional production person. You need to step up all your own grain procurement. All your vendor relationships probably need to be reassessed to make sure that they're up to the task. QA and QC fulfillment, all those things need to be beefed up among any -- many other things. And all of that is in motion. And as I mentioned, I think we should be very well caught up with current demand and be prepared for any type of step-ups in demand by, say, mid-August. Now if things jump up another 10x between now and say, August, yes, all those things I just said, we're going to have to revisit again. But we've turned this around, we've increased our capacity in pretty short order because we were prepared, because we expect this could always be coming. So we have no concerns going forward that there is any kind of caps on our capacity. And then, of course, we haven't even stepped into another type of manufacturing that we can do that could carry -- that can support global scale, right? We're just focused right now in the U.S. market, and that 10x in demand is the U.S. market. But if there becomes some more regulatory clarity, and I mean that globally, right here in the U.S. different places across the country, big CPGs are going to start to pile in, right? And this -- the current revenue that we're doing will be a tiny time spec compared to the new opportunity. And we'll have to step into a new type of manufacturing that we're ready to do, and that's biosynth right? Currently, a lot of what we're doing is synthesized by chemistry because the market is just not big enough. But we always [indiscernible] market is going to be massive. And once these big multinational CPGs step in, we can take the next step up into biosynth as a means of supporting that kind of demand. What was the second part of your question, John, I kind of lost it as I was rambling on there?
John Heerdink
attendeeI think we're pretty much -- you circled around and got the answer. Maybe we can switch -- it's related, but can you sort of point out to us what you believe in? What makes BayMedica unique in the marketplace?
Gerard Griffin
executiveYes, for sure. I don't want to sound overly simplistic when I say this, but there's a lot of shiny objects in this space. And we are unique in that we are focused on a few things that we do very, very well. We're not distributors. We manufacture everything we sell, which ultimately allows us to control our own destiny and maintain healthy margins. We also stay, as an ingredient manufacturer, way of value chain, right, versus complicating our business with custom products that are either capital intensive or people resource intensive. And we're leaders in our areas of expertise, which is, as I touched on, modern manufacturing processes, like biosynthesis and chemistry, in order to supply these rare cannabinoids in the market at scale, which may not be possible if it were for suppliers like us. Now if you look at this from the perspective of traditional CPG or in an over-the-counter medicine, right, like aspirin, for example, right, synthesized ingredients are very, very normal and common. So really, at the end of the day, there's nothing unique about what we do, but what we are doing is certainly unique to cannabinoids, where everything has traditionally come from the plan. Now if you're looking -- if you're asking why we're attracting customers and the customer base that we have, it's because our customer is starting to realize that we're not looking to replace the agricultural supply chain, right? The customers are starting to realize that we -- who -- in a lot of cases, they're invested in it, right? And I think they're starting to realize we have a tremendous amount of respect for the plant and all the people that fought to get things kind of where they are today. And we respect the craftsmen who cultivate and extract and formulate finished products, and we've no intention of replacing that at all. We simply solved a problem that exists within the current cannabinoids supply chain, which is providing access to abundance as it relates to certain really sought-after cannabinoids. In addition to all of that, right, I think it took a little bit of education to make folks comfortable with that, with our position on this. But we're also starting to see where customers are valuing batch-to-batch consistency in their products. You really can't build a product -- you really can't build brand equity, I should say, around a product that tastes different or feels different every time you buy it, right? Not to mention when your inputs vary from run to run, you create a lot of inefficiency in your manufacturing processes. And of course, inefficiency drives the cost. So certainly, we're seeing brands start to realize that, realize how important that is. And again, this is all kind of traditional CPG stuff, but this is a nascent industry and we're all maturing together. So I guess another reason would be customers gravitate towards us because our quality systems are second to none. We employ food-grade GMP standards in everything that we make. We use multiple third-party testing labs before any products go to our customers. We have a thorough understanding of our impurity profiles, which may sound technical, but the people that really understand what that means, they realize how important that really is. We've got clearly defined specs. We have an understanding of stability of our products. We understand proper handling of our products. And probably most importantly, we verify that what we make is actually bioidentical to what the plant makes. Not everybody can say that. And to be honest, it's a bit spooky that there are some products out there that maybe aren't held to that standard, and you don't really know what you're getting. I guess on pricing -- and I think this is a really important point, right? And I just want to touch on this for a second, because I think it's actually the most important point. We've been able to get our pricing to an adoptable level, which basically means that brands can afford to put these ingredients in their product, which is really the name of the game. I don't think that similarly situated companies to us have been able to accomplish that, right? It's really great if like you can't make THCV -- you can't extract THCV from the plant, right? But if it costs $20,000 a kilo, right, and you got to put that in a product at, say, a dose of 10 milligrams, and you do the math on that, and it translates to a price of retail that nobody is going to pay for, it doesn't matter that you can do that, right? And so I think that that's where we really differentiate and where really people are starting to lean into us is that we have been able to do this, and we have been able to push the pricing down on the cannabinoids we make to an adoptable level. And we have the competency -- and I think people have the confidence that we have the competency to continue to do this. It's just a matter of time before another one of the cannabinoids that we make offers the same velocity and economics of some of our current hot sellers. And so the last thing I'll say, just to kind of put a bow on it, is that synthesized ingredients are now being considered normal and safe in this space. There's [indiscernible] examples of insulin or stevia or hyaluronic acid, which is a very common personal care ingredient, citric acid, right, we all know citric acid. Salicylic acid, right? Aspirin, right? All are produced through biosynth or through synthetic chemistry, but it took a lot of time to educate on that, right? And I think customers are now starting to be up the curve on that and get comfortable with it. So all of those things is why people are starting to lean into us and what makes us huge.
John Heerdink
attendeeJerry, that's -- it's amazing to imagine where this market will go over the next 5 to 10 years, even though it's sort of in a nascent sort of situation now. And with your significant growth, it looks like we're on to something here. And the company, it's got good days ahead. Maybe switching back to Eric, if you don't mind. Eric, can you give us a quick financial snapshot, current cap structure, et cetera?
Eric Adams
executiveSure. So this is our standard snapshot of information that we have on our website. We reported most recently in March 31, which is our fiscal year third quarter, so some of the sales numbers we showed you are historical, not forward-looking. As of March 31, we had about $9.6 million in cash and cash equivalents. So that's enough to get us, the entire company, through the end of this calendar year and into next year. And for some people, that's like, oh, that's very short term. it's actually a pretty good horizon for biotech companies at this point because it's been so difficult in the capital markets. So we're actually very well positioned. And to say that it gets us into 2024, that's without really ramping up the sales projections that we have. So as those -- if they continue to increase at the rate that we're seeing, that will significantly change our cash runway for the company. Interestingly, we're a very low float company. We only have about 3.3 million shares that are traded. So that's interesting to some investors who like low float companies. And yes, like everyone else, there's been a huge reversal in the share price over the course of the last year. That's not unique to us by any stretch. It's certainly painful, but I think we have a really good foundation now to build on and watch the stock try to emerge from these difficult times that everyone's been witnessing. Our market cap right now is about $4 million. And if you just project out what the revenues could possibly be, even if they just stabilize where they are now, our revenues are going to be higher than our market cap right now, which is a pretty ridiculous situation to be in. So we're in a good spot. We think we have a good foundation in place and something that we'll be able to build on.
John Heerdink
attendeeAnd then just follow up with that is just over the last month, we started to see the stock start to trend higher as the fundamentals have improved here with the reporting of these last -- the latest quarter and 120% growth. One last question I had from the Tribe is, Eric, in other recent in-person events, you spoke -- spoken a little bit about the entourage effect. Can you -- in rara cannabinoids, can you speak to that in some way that's related to InMed?
Eric Adams
executiveWell, the entourage effect makes reference to the fact that these multiple cannabinoids and the plant itself makes over 140 different cannabinoids, and that's matched with 200 different terpenes and other kinds of chemicals in it. And it's the interrelation and the interaction of these different cannabinoids with each other that they say gives this broad range effects in the human body. So keep in mind that we, as a company, both as InMed and as BayMedica, we don't make anything that is psychoactive. So THC is responsible for that. None of the compounds that we make go into that arena. We don't make any CBD. We make a variation of CBD called CBDV and THCV, for instance, but they're non-psychoactive. So -- but what we're seeing is that, apparently, the role that CBC plays in combination with other cannabinoids is to enhance their effects, maybe prolong their effects in some instances. So it's really the combination of these different ones and how they interact with the different receptors in the body that give a different effect. And that's what people are starting to experiment with. So you can have, for instance, just a CBD gummy that people would use. But if you start adding other cannabinoids to it, you can alter the overall effect in some way. And that's really where the market is going with this kind of experimentation as to what are the meaningful cannabinoids to have this entourage effect, this increase in potency or effect related to multiple cannabis.
John Heerdink
attendeeWell, gentlemen, it's -- we're sneaking up on the top of the hour and we try to keep these fairly efficient. Let me ask you, one, I guess if you could, either Eric or Jerry, could you sum up what you'd like us to take away today about InMed Pharmaceuticals and the opportunity that you have.
Eric Adams
executiveSure. So on the pharmaceuticals side, which is really where our DNA begins, not only for ourselves, but several of the BayMedica employees as well, we've got a lot of exciting things going on. We have a Phase II readout coming in the next couple of months. We'll be selecting our one drug that we'll be pushing forward in Alzheimer's research in the next couple of months, and we'll be reporting the sales, the next quarter sales results in September. So in the short term, we've got a lot of key value drivers. We're very well positioned on the pharmaceutical drug development side. We have a number of things that we think could serve as the foundation for starting discussions with other companies that might be interested in these kinds of programs. And on the BayMedica side, Jerry and the team has just done a real bang-up job of not only positioning us for success in revenues, but the stuff that goes behind that in terms of the manufacturing and everything that needs to go to make sure that we can maintain adequate supplies as we really try to figure out how big this revenue opportunity can be over the next couple of years. And right now, it's -- honestly to say, we don't know how big it can get or how fast it can get there. But we're in the fight, and we're doing everything we can to service that market to the best of our ability. So it's all good right now. Things are moving really well in all directions.
John Heerdink
attendeeGreat. Congratulations on the success this year and looking forward to seeing where you might take this company. Thank you, Eric and Jerry, for cohosting this event today. A reminder, Tribe, that we will be seeking to get the event that you'll walk later today at the Tribe Public YouTube channel. And so please feel free to go back and view anything that you might want to review here and also share it with others. Thanks again for joining us today and being the best part of the Tribe. And as I always say and at the same time, thank you for our cohosts for coming on here today. Look forward to having you back in this format. At least in that quarter, if something significant comes up or you surprise us with another revenue jump, I want you back on here immediately after that, and it sounds like we might be on that path. And in the meantime, Tribe, remember, if you want to meet with the management team of InMed in person at one of the Tribe cities, please submit your interest through the wish list process. We've had them out to a couple of places, and it's been a fascinating experience, and all have enjoyed meeting with Eric and company. So thanks again. Have a great rest of the day, everyone, and we look forward to seeing you back on future programs. Thanks so much.
Eric Adams
executiveYes. Thank you.
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