Insperity, Inc. (NSP) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 16, 2024

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Professional Services investor_day 183 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Insperity Investor Day 2024. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that our presenters may make forward-looking statements during today's event, which are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions. In addition, some of our discussion may include non-GAAP financial measures. For a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from any forward-looking statements and reconciliations of non-GAAP financials. Please see the company's public materials including the slides accompanying this presentation and our SEC filings, such as our most recent Form 10-K and Form 10-Q all of which are available on our website. We also wanted to remind you that today's meeting will be recorded and that a copy of the recording, including the slides presented will be available on our website for at least 90 days. We will be having a Q&A session later this morning. We will begin with questions from our analysts and then move to questions from our institutional investors. [Operator Instructions] Now I'd like to introduce Insperity Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Paul Sarvadi.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#2

Well, welcome to everyone to our Insperity Investor Day 2024. Thank you so much for joining us today. We are super excited to discuss what we believe is an excellent business and investment opportunity. And our purpose today is to share with you some significant information that we know is of interest to investors, but also we are sharing our enthusiasm about where we are today and where we see us going from here. I can say after 38 years, of course, being a co-founder of this company, that I have never been as excited as I am today about how Insperity is positioned as never before. Relative to value creation, I believe we are on the front end of an incredible period of value creation. And of course, today, the focus of our Investor Day is really twofold. We are going to reinforce the historical and ongoing strength of our Insperity business and financial model. It's been a powerful business model. And in addition to that, I'm going to explain how the Workday strategic partnership and the potential that, that brings to our business model is a catalyst for our growth, and it increases the likelihood degree and speed of success of Insperity going forward. So we're going to provide an update on this partnership, how it's been established, how it's progressing. And we're going to describe the four major pillars of projects that are involved in making this successful, including our own site, which is our own corporate instance of Workday that we will be using, also the client site that is a foundation of the product that we'll be taking to the marketplace together. And then also, of course, our go-to-market strategy and the development of our own enablement and deployment team, to be able to support our clients with this new solution. So we're also going to talk about the foundation of the ultimate return on investment of this investment and strategic partnership, which I know is of course, of interest. But I really want to focus that the most important word on that screen in front of you right now is the word catalyst. A catalyst is an agent, that provokes or speeds significant change and action. And the whole point there is to understand that it is our proven business model that is going to be accelerated and enhanced through this new business relationship. So I want to start with just a discussion of big picture about the actual joint relationship that we have, our strategic partnership with Workday. And what we'll be doing in this relationship, the essence of it, is for us to go to the market together. A target market that we have identified that is underserved and a huge tremendous opportunity. And so we are developing preeminent solution for that targeted market of small to medium-sized businesses, you'll see me talk about this in a minute, but generally between about 250 employees up to about 5,000 employees. And this strategic partnership is attacking that target through a co-branding, co-marketing and co-selling relationship, where we are taking our products and services and especially this new solution to the marketplace together. And of course, it combines Workday's HR technology and Insperity's HR services. It's literally the best of both worlds coming together in a powerful fashion for this target market that needs exactly what we're putting together. It's literally creating a hand-in-glove fit for this target market. Now I also believe this is potential to be competitively disruptive in the marketplace, primarily because to have this type of technology and this type of services, the amount of effort that it takes, the amount of investment that it takes, the length of the time it takes to put things like this in place, all of those can be accelerated cost reduced, we're going to be able to bring a solution to the marketplace that doesn't exist out there. And what excites me most about this relationship is that this is so client-centric, both companies, Insperity and Workday have the clients' best interest at heart. And we know that this service and product that we're putting together and the way we're going to be able to implement it, it brings a new opportunity into that space that is fulfilling a critical need to help those businesses be successful. So this highly scalable technology and service solution is going to be very exciting for this target market. In fact, I believe it's got the potential to greatly enhance the likelihood degree and speed of success of these clients. That's what makes it such a perfect fit. It's also important to note that Insperity has an exclusive partnership with Workday, to put this together, and it's a exclusive partnership for 5 years at a minimum, we believe it can and will be much longer. So let me talk a little bit about what you're going to hear today and who you're going to hear from. Our agenda is to provide our business and financial model drivers to reinforce those that many of you know about, but we're also going to talk about how this new strategic relationship affects each of those drivers, because that's what is the foundation for accelerating our success into the future. You're also going to hear from other members of our team. I know you're used to hearing from myself and Doug Sharp, we are first on the agenda, but you'll also hear from two other executives on our team, Jim Allison, which is -- who's an Executive Vice President and our Chief Profitability Officer. And you're also going to hear from Steve Arizpe, who is our President and Chief Operating Officer, and he will be interviewing some others that you'll be hearing from. The others are management team members, including Tom Gearty, who played a key role in putting this relationship together. And so we're excited about what you're going to hear today from this team. So let's start at the big picture of what Insperity is really all about. Our mission is to help businesses succeed so communities prosper. And the way that we do that is by delivering a people strategy because what we have found is many companies in the small to midsize business world, do a great job on having a sales plan, an operations plan, a financial strategy or technology strategy, but the one part of a business strategy that falls behind in many small and midsized companies is a people strategy. And that's so strange, because it's the people that are the ones that are effective in putting the other strategies to work. So having a people strategy is really critical foundational and really does take the [lid] off the potential for these businesses. Now having a people strategy, having that human resource, the HR part of your business, really refined and most more effective, has really become a top-of-mind issue in the marketplace. And I have to say that it's really through the pandemic that we all went through. And when COVID came through, it had a dramatic effect on obviously the people, and all the changes working from home and trying to deal with the emotional issues that were going on, and how companies could keep going, how could they compensate, how could they know what was going on in their businesses? How could they effectively communicate with people and help them do their roles going forward, even through a pandemic. And I have to say, coming out of that, what we have seen is that we have this unbelievable seat at the table now, that's different from what it was before. And it's not just the clients or the prospects, people that run and manage these small, midsized businesses but it's even board members and investors. That makes a big difference. And this marketplace is more ready than ever for a comprehensive solution, and that's what we bring to the table. Now the beauty is that between Insperity and Workday, we both have that common mission of bringing the best to this target market space and to help these businesses succeed. And so it's a great foundation for our relationship. Now Insperity's history was based on the fact that we started this business by creating a novel legal construct called co-employment. This was a way for Insperity to become the HR department for a small to midsized company by co-employing the entire current staff, including the owner, the top executives. And it was truly a disruptive new service in the marketplace and we've been able to leverage that very successfully, because what that allowed us to do is provide all types of administrative relief, cost containment, compliance, we're shoulder to shoulder through co-employment to take on some of these employer-related responsibilities. And we move what I call regularly scheduled business interruptions from the clients point of view, so they could manage their profit opportunities, grow their business and not have to deal with so much -- that are stumbling blocks along the way. We were also able to, with this relationship, to provide benefits that would level the playing field so that these smaller and midsized companies could attract and retain key people and optimize both the individual and team performance through getting this part of your business, right. So it's leveling the playing field for small businesses even sharing those liabilities. Now traditional employment, the way people have always done this, we have gone into as another offering that I'll explain in a moment, and that was to begin more of a customer for life strategy, to meet companies where they are and help them move through their lifespan more effectively. So from the big picture, it's a proven business model. We have a history of capitalizing on a significant, a vast market opportunity. We do that through a premium service and brand that we bring to the marketplace. And we have this growth engine that is a valuable asset in attacking this marketplace. We have a history of balancing both growth and profitability through taking this service out to the marketplace, but being a premium brand and pricing at a level that manages our profitability, and we don't sacrifice one for the other. Now it is a model that's designed to produce double-digit growth. So we have a model for growth that produces double-digit, 10% to 12% unit growth, that produces faster growth in profitability at the gross profit level and then even higher rates, over 20% in the growth of our adjusted EBITDA. That is kind of the model. Now this new strategic partnership literally enhances that model. It's not a new model. It is a catalyst to have our basic model grow, because it drives three of the key drivers. Our sales, our retention of clients and our pricing and client profitability drivers. So this is a powerful new relationship. Now this is one time where we're making a significant investment. We're going to talk more about that, but it is -- it doesn't change our view of managing growth and profitability over the long haul. It just should reinforce how much we believe in this investment, because it's going to have such a powerful effect on the business. So let me talk about this vast market opportunity and how things look going forward under this new relationship. So we generally target companies that have 500 to 5,000 employees, and that's about 60% of the number of people that are employed in the marketplace. It's about over 80 million people that are employed. And as you can see from this picture, only about 8% of those are currently on a co-employment solution. So for our core business, do we have a vast market opportunity, we most certainly do. But let me explain that we started our business on the less than 100 employee group. That was 5 employees to 100 employees, or about 28% of the marketplace, which today represents about 36 million employees. We moved up over time because we were helping businesses become successful. They were growing beyond the 100 employees. And ultimately, we ended up moving into this other group of 100 to 5,000 employees, and we've been successful bringing products to that market. But this new relationship is going to make a huge difference, and we have a long way to go, only at 8% in the core market and the opportunity is extensive and vast as you can see. But what I want to do is drill down a little bit on this group that represents the 100 to 5,000 employees, because that becomes the target now for both of our firms, both Workday and Insperity, Workday is coming down market, we're going upmarket. And this represents a marketplace with 31% of all the employees that work in the marketplace. Now the reality is if you look at these two, I'll just kind of put a split in here between firms that have 100 to 500 employees and groups that are from 500 to 5,000. And what you'll see there, that splits it to 13% and 18%. And as we sit here today, the reality is that Insperity has a better likelihood of success, with companies with 500 or fewer employees or the light blue section, and Workday has more opportunity and more success at the top end of that space as they're coming down market. But both entities together are producing a solution that optimizes what this space really needs. We know what this space needs. This space needs both the premium technology and the premium service, needs to have that in combination to have an effective people strategy that helps their business succeed. And we believe that this new solution will be the best fit for the highest number of clients in this space. And so we're excited about how this is going to market together. And it has significant possibilities for both companies in sales, retention and taking their businesses to the next level in this market. Another way to look at it is, to kind of put it in the life cycle picture that you see on your screen now. And you can see that it shows that the HCM business, the human capital management business that technology business, -- of course, that Workday is the leader in, is at a more mature phase of development into the marketplace than the PEO business or Insperity's [co-employment] world. And so we are in more of an early adoption period. They're more of in a later adoption period. And what's interesting is they're -- they started at the top end of the market with the largest companies, and so their later majority are smaller businesses in this target market that we're speaking to. Now in our business, we start at the bottom of the market, the 5 to 100 and our early majority is now moving up into this space. So here we are, together, coming at this target that is the most -- a very important target market for both companies. Now it's exciting because as we go upmarket together, what we're bringing, as you can see on this screen, this concept called software with a service. We have always believed that having great technology is important. But we already know that the smaller the company is, the more they need outside service support from HR and technology professionals, to even use technology effectively, to have powerful business -- people strategy in your business. So we have, as a company with 4,400 corporate employees, we are already a highly scalable HR services organization. And we have some powerful technology that I want to discuss, that was designed for the smaller end of the space. But we know for sure, and it's common knowledge that Workday's technology is at the very high end, and is the highly scalable technology solution. So what we are bringing together for this target that I have here on the screen, we're bringing now a level of scalability in both technology and service that is not in the marketplace today. Now when we look at the market, if you put all businesses all 7 million to 8 million small and midsized companies into this box on this screen. We would put them in categories by vertically, we would put them in industry categories. And then horizontally, you can see our business success, how successful they are, and I use the term struggling, surviving, producing and thriving at the very top. But it's important for us to analyze risk to target our space because we have a co-employment relationship. And so our efforts over the years is focused on being a trusted adviser, to the -- what I call the best small and midsized companies that are in the top right-hand side of this picture. And so we have about 35% of the industry categories or so 65% of the industry categories are in the [box], 35% are not. And then we target the companies that are already have a degree of success, because we don't want to take financial risk when we're taking so much employment risk, not describing employment risk, I'm talking about a composite scoring that we do internally, about the type of risk that the company has, anything from safety risk to litigation risk. Things like average pay rates and turnover rates, of course, are a risk in the human resources space. So all these different types of risks are assessed and we're in that top right. So that's the demographic profile, but there's also a psychographic profile that we're after. We're after companies that really care about their people. We're after companies that understand that if you get the people part right, it's going to accelerate your business. So it's a psychographic profile of companies that care about their people, care about taking the business to the next level through the role people play. Now that's interesting because, people that are seeking out the Workday solution fit that same profile. They see Workday as the premium brand in the space and they're investing to get the people strategy of their business right, to do a better job with it for their people. So we have not only a common demographic profile that we're after in this target market, but there's a commonality to the psychographic profile as well. Now -- so we have always, in our history, looked at over 600,000 out of the 7 million businesses as a very good fit with our service. Now with this new solution, we do see an expansion to that, and we see that we're now even a better fit for a higher percentage of those companies in that space. So we do see that we'll possibly even have some companies that will be interested that may be [indiscernible] over profile, where they had some certain types of risk that we'll be able to tolerate because of this new solution, maybe they won't. For example, maybe they won't want to have their own -- they want to have their own benefit plan, not a benefit plan with us. That puts them in a little different category, because if they're more technology focused, we'll be able to serve them without having that type of risk. So there's no question in my mind that this both makes us a better fit, for more of our target client base and also expands that base to a degree. Now in our world, market by market, what the output is, what the outcome is, is that you see this type of variety of spreading of our client base across certain industry categories. And so this is kind of replicated market to market. And so we're kind of -- we don't have the type of risk you have with high-risk accounts. And so we have -- currently have over 12,000 clients on our co-employment Workforce Optimization solution, many other clients on our traditional employment solution. Interestingly, Workday, of course, is also somewhere around the 12,000 client range. Now they're so much bigger than our [indiscernible] so the employee base is a lot bigger. But our margin per employee is a lot larger than theirs is. So the companies think alike on this issue of per employee per month or per employee per year and what we earn. So there's a great match and a great opportunity for the two together. Now let me also go on to a couple of other things here, but we need to move that slide, because it's not working right this second. Let's see if -- there we go, but now it's working. So let me talk about the solutions very quickly. We have comprehensive HR solutions today, both a traditional employment and the co-employment solution. So these two options are to meet prospects where they are, and take them through more of what I call a customer for life strategy. So our WX solution, Workforce Acceleration is leveraging the investments we're already making in having such a large sales staff all across the country. This literally was a pipeline for our co-employment business, that's working very well today. Now adding the new solution, I want to make sure you understand that what we are doing here is, we are embedding the Workday HR technology as our client-facing technology within our service. So it's our product going to the marketplace to this target, but it is embedding Workday's HR technology. So it's built on top of our Insperity PEO co-employment compliance platform, and so that's what's taking some time and effort to get this right. It's a new co-employment version of our service with a different client-facing technology. Now I want to make sure we understand that our premier technology that we've built, for the clients less than 150 employees is a perfect fit for them, and we intend to keep building that and making it better and better for them. And so our platform upgrade closes, what I would call perceived gaps for the larger clients, that we originally didn't build our software to develop. And now it's a perfect immediate step-up in fulfilling that gap and improving both our sales and retention to that type of company with more employees with -- by bringing scalable, automated workflows, seamless integrations, user experience designed for that size account. So let's go on to the next slide, please. It looks like this is not working for me yet. Okay. So let me just talk about how Insperity is different. It really depends on how you look at Insperity from where you're coming from. If someone looks at us and says, oh, you do payroll and administration for companies, you look like a business services company. Some of us look and say, wow, you provide benefits to all those employees and their families, it's more like an insurance service. Now some companies look at us and say, wow, look at the technology you're providing in the marketplace to the small business, you guys have a powerful software services company. What we are is an amalgamation of those three, and all three of those powerful components are delivered as an advisory service to our target companies. It is a powerful category of one highly scalable, customizable HR service delivery engine. And now we're adding the exclusivity of the most scalable HR technology to that model. Now our clients always say it the best. When they say, what's the difference of Insperity? What's our competitive advantage? They describe it as the breadth, the depth and level of care. The breadth of our services, we do so much. The depth of those services, we do so much behind the scenes that they don't have to deal with, that is for their benefit. And -- but what they see and feel the most is the level of care that is the touch of our people, helping them, do the best for their team and for their people. Now we do this, the way we have grown this business is we have in place a national platform with sales and service together in over 100 offices across the country. We have a growth engine that's designed for consistent, predictable growth. It's not impervious to the things that happen in the marketplace, but it's a powerful engine that we have really developed in a great way, over 750 business performance advisers are out there working with clients day in and day out, that call on accounts with fewer than 150 employees. And then we -- those -- that group also provides the warm leads to our BPCs, business performance consultants, that bring on our larger accounts and help those accounts develop their people strategy. So this is a pipeline in the new strategic partnership to -- this is actually the pipeline for the partnership to attack that target space. Now very quickly, how do we go to market? I mentioned the business performance advisers and our whole system for recruiting, training, compensation, management support is a powerful engine. But our marketing program is also very powerful and successful. Our marketing programs contribute to more than 60% of our sales production through digital, social and of course, now AI-driven lead production, also loyalty, referrals, referrals from our clients are a tremendous engine. And of course, we have had channel partnerships historically, and now we're adding the new Workday strategic partnership. And I want to just use one example. We've developed a powerful partnership with the insurance sales and agency community over the years, and we have significant lead production through that organization that we started through UnitedHealthcare, working together with them. And this strategic relationship, we know what we can do and how to go about, getting this in place for a powerful go-to-market strategy. So in summary, I just want to say the key thing to remember today is that the Workday relationship is a catalyst, a catalyst for the current business model that has been tremendously successful attacking this marketplace. It's a catalyst for growth, through co-branding, co-marketing and co-selling. It's a catalyst for profitability, through this new solution and the value pricing and other revenue stream potential. And in addition to that, over the longer term, the operating leverage in sales and technology is new to our business. We've had operating leverage on the service side, but we see for a long-term potential, a new level of operating leverage in the business. And most importantly, it's a catalyst for our return to shareholders in the form of improving our likelihood degree and speed of success at our historical market that we are capitalizing on. So before I finish now, I want to introduce a video for you because the thing that makes me so confident about our future and so excited about it is, the commitment of leadership on both sides, both Workday and Insperity, and you're going to hear more about that later. But we have followed through on organizing to get this done and the resources and relationships that have already been established are making a huge difference. But what I'd like to show you at this point is on the day that we signed this agreement, we literally were negotiating up to the point in the morning when people were getting on the plane to head our way. And when we finalize it very quickly, we said they're coming here to sign. What we need to do is we need to have -- really, there were hundreds of us involved in actually bringing this together on both sides. And so we want to make sure we had the people who worked on this strategic partnership to witness the signing of these forms. And so I want to show that to you. [Presentation]

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#3

So as you can see, Karl said it well, and we are off to a great start. You're going to hear all about that today. The next section I'm going to pass it on to Doug Sharp to talk about how this business model has produced such a powerful financial model, and how this new relationship will even enhance that. Doug?

Douglas Sharp

executive
#4

[indiscernible] President of Finance and CFO. As Paul mentioned, we talked about our proven business model that's reflected by really the proven financial model that we have. And what we're going to do over the next few minutes to review the key drivers and the metrics of that proven financial model, and how we believe the Workday partnership solution is a good fit and a catalyst for further growth. So if we take a look at the growth and profitability, each of the two factors and the strong cash flow. First of all, I think and Paul mentioned this, we've been all about balancing growth and profitability along the way. And it's been a key component of how we've operated the business. If we look at some of the other components of growth and profitability, it is, first of all, we're targeting prospects that want a premium offering, not a save you money type approach. What that results in is clients that are typically financially stronger than the small business marketplace as a whole, are those looking for a save you money that typically shop from year to year. What that results in is higher client retention for us, even in periods where the economy may be weak. Typically, our clients who are -- place a value in HR do have that higher client retention and stay with us longer. You also -- we also feel like if we are offering a premium offering to clients that want to invest in their people that typically the higher -- there's typically higher growth through hiring -- net hiring in our client base. So that's another strong feature of our growth. One thing we really love about the model is the recurring revenue model. So we're not starting from scratch selling every quarter to achieve our revenue growth, it's really about this recurring revenue to get into some of the drivers as it relates to sales, client retention and the net hiring by our client base. The other strong feature, we believe that the model is the operating leverage over the long term, and we do that through service efficiency. Obviously, applying technology and improving and enhancing technology along the way where you can have some automated services, which our clients like to do. I mean some of it, they want to do self-service and that generates more operating leverage. And obviously, we have some further operating leverage in the back office of the building -- back office of the office system, where in the gross profit area, finance areas, things like that, where you can get leverage off of the growth. On the other side of the picture here is really the strong cash flow generation. It's a very capital efficient, cash-efficient business. We -- it's a very short billing, the cash cycle where we're billing and collecting in connection with the payroll. We're not holding a bunch of receivables out there, that we have to collect at a later date. Another thing relative to the strong cash flow is our low capital CapEx expenditure. We're a sales and service company. And therefore, most of the CapEx investment is on the technology side. Some of it is when we expand into open markets, we do lease our sales offices and service centers and there's some CapEx associated with that. But at the end of the day, it's a very strong cash flow model. We can grow organically through the growth of the BPAs. We talked about some of the investments we have to make here, but it has positioned us for a very -- historically a very strong return to our shareholders, through our dividend and our share repurchase programs. Generally speaking, we have a regular cash dividend. Typically, what we're looking at there is targeting a 2% yield or so in a payout ratio of 40%, 45% in that range. Share repurchases, we've -- and we'll get to this on a later slide, purchased quite a few shares over the course of our history, sometimes more so than others through tender offers and buying more opportunistic at certain times. But typically, we put in a share repurchase program about $20 million, $30 million a quarter, and it's typically structured such that it does pick up and weighted a little bit higher, should there be dips in the price and taking advantage of that. But all of that, I think, leads to a strong model and historically, a model that investors have been interested in. Well, so our financial model really all begins with strong growth in our worksite employee growth. If you look at our 10-year compounded annual growth rate for worksite employees, it's 9%, but that's through various economic cycles, but also what we think and hope is a onetime pandemic. If you look at the 5-year period, pre-pandemic, the compounded annual growth rate of paid worksite employees is in the 12.5% range or so. And that's more sort of where we want to be on a long-term basis. Now obviously, there's three drivers to our worksite employee growth, more on the controllable side. One is less on the controllable side. Obviously, it all begins with sales. The front of the ship for sales is the growth in the number of BPAs. And you can see over 10 years. The growth rate there has been 9%, pretty much matching with the 10-year CAGR on worksite employees of 9%. But we are constantly looking at ways to improve that sales efficiency and to get leverage out of the sales force. And so we do that by growing the sales force, but also looking at BPA tenure, keeping the turnover as low as possible, such that BPAs move up in their tenure. Their quotas are higher as they reach certain tenures. And obviously, they get compensated for being in those higher tenures. We are also looking at different BPA commission programs as a way to improve sales efficiency. Obviously, marketing and handing off warm leads to the BPAs can also improve that. But we also believe that the Workday partnership will improve the sales efficiency number. And we'll get into that a little bit later, but particularly, obviously, selling into the mid-market and into our emerging growth segments. A second driver is client retention. It's really your most efficient, cost-efficient way of growing the business. You're not having to replace employees with new sales and the effort and the money that it takes to grow the sales portion of it. And so I think one thing you've seen over the 10-year period is an improvement in client retention from around 80% to 83%. A lot of that has to do with how we have handled the mid-market service sales and service operations. They are -- obviously, on the sales side, you're selling to a different constituency. You're selling to a CEO, someone over the sales, someone over the HR departments, the CFO typically versus a small business where you're typically selling just to the small business owner. And so we've come a long way in learning the sales process, but also their service very differently. They have different needs. We'll see that when we talk about the Workday partnership and we have a separate service organization that attends to those needs. And that's another reason for the improvement in the client retention over that 10-year period. The more noncontrollable piece of our growth drivers is what's happening within the client base about, whether they're net hiring or net layoffs going on with the base. Obviously, our target prospect base is those that are thriving, growing and looking for ways to value-add type by as far as the HR services that we can provide, and not more of a save you money type deal. And as a result of that, we typically get higher hiring within the small, midsized community base than that as a whole. Obviously, it can be -- it can vary at times it's dependent upon the macroeconomic environment and also the tight labor market. So you go through cycles in that, but we feel like where we are today, typically, in a normal type environment, it adds about 4% or 5% or so of our growth, because of the reasons that I just discussed. Where we are today with more of a weak economy with inflation out there, and still somewhat of a tight labor market. And access to financing being a little bit less at this point. There -- as you noticed from my recent earnings calls, there has been less contribution from net hiring within the base at this point. I -- we talked about in the last half 2023, there was really a net negative going into January of '24. We saw a little bit of improvement in January and February of this year, but it's really gone up and down. And I would say, in total, we're sort of at about a breakeven point on that contributor of our worksite employee growth. Moving down from growth. It's all about balancing growth with profitability, and it really starts with our gross profit area. And so this is the area that's focused on pricing along with direct cost management. I think one thing you see -- in the chart on the left there is the improvement in that gross profit per employee number from the 257 in 2013, up to 277 in 2023. And it's been in that 270, 280 range now for some recent years or so. And -- and obviously, a lot of that has to do with meeting our pricing objectives and which is to match or exceed our primary direct costs, which are benefit workers' comp and unemployment taxes and pricing not only having a pricing for the HR service fees that we provide, but also earning a management fee for managing these direct cost programs. We put a lot of work in managing the employee benefit plans. And even on the unemployment tax side, where certain unemployments can be contested, et cetera. And obviously, on the workers' compensation program. Jim will get into a little bit more details when he gets in this particular area. The third component of gross profit is in the additional services. One thing we want to point out here is the co-employment model obviously has some insurance aspects to it. The employee benefits of the workers' comp, which introduces some risk component to that particular model. On the additional services we're looking to add like workforce acceleration. That's an area where there is a non-risk addition to gross profit. And so our current focus is definitely on continuing to grow that Workforce Acceleration business. It allows us to sell clients that don't normally fit into the PEO model for risk purposes. There are some that wanted to just get a taste of the Insperity service offering in our good candidate for migration into the higher margin, and what we feel is a more complete offering in the PEO model. So you take really -- you take those things together, driving the growth. The objective is in the low to mid double digits, getting further expansion in our gross profit area and the gross profit per employee and generating growth in adjusted EBITDA. So we talked about over a 10-year period, a 9% increase CAGR in worksite employee growth, generating a 14% increase along those same line on an adjusted EBITDA. And I do have to point out, obviously, the pandemic caused quite an interruption during that period. Again, if we look at the 5-year period 2014 and 2019 prior to the pandemic, it was a 24% increase in EBITDA. We also look at our margins, and we look at them as a percentage of gross profit, which is really a net proxy for a net revenue number. And if you compare to some of our peers out there, that's the best measurement, is looking at that gross profit line. So when you look at the margins, adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of gross profit, you can see the improvement from 23.5% up to 34%. So improvement there for all the reasons that I discussed. And we also look at it on a per employee per month basis it's going from $60 in 2013 to $94 in 2023. So we talked about the fact that it is a very cash-efficient model. If you look at a 10-year CAGR and our free cash flow of 15%, very strong free cash flow, low capital expenditure needs. And therefore, it allows us to provide very strong returns to our shareholders through our regular dividend program and at times, some special dividends and through our share repurchase program. And if you look over the 10-year period, that's about almost $1.6 billion of monies that we have returned to our shareholders through those two programs. And I think even sort of a more remarkable metric there is over those 10 years, the average return on capital as a percentage of free cash flow is 87%. So, we're obviously focusing on returning cash and strong returns to the shareholders. But it obviously has to be balanced with growth in the business. And now we're moving into this Workday investment in the Workday partnership. And so we still expect the dividend program to be ongoing, and we'll be looking at how the share repurchase program fits into our investment in the Workday partnership. Okay. So let's shift a little bit into the partnership between Insperity and Workday. I think the bottom line is we're taking a very strong financial model and adding a catalyst for unit and earnings growth with the Workday partnership. I think one question we want to answer is, what are -- what's each party contributing to the investment in this partnership? So we'll start with the Insperity investment. I talked about -- I think it was a couple of earnings calls ago about a rough estimate of an incremental investment that we're making in the $150 million range over a 5-year period. That's primarily going to be running through the P&L versus capitalizing those costs. So obviously, that's been part of the guidance -- earnings guidance that we provided for this year. We also talked about the fact that the investment will be weighted heavier in the 2 years where you have more of the development effort taking place. And I think that's also demonstrated by, when you look at the breakdown of that incremental investment into the 4 main pieces here, about almost 50% of the investment in the client tenant development. And as an example, we'll get into some more detail also on the work we're doing there. But as an example, feeding data between Workday and our proprietary PEO system where you have all the compliance being a PEO. You also have the pricing module within the PEO and even the funding element of funding payroll and billing and getting that money back from the clients. And so, that's part of the work that goes on there. Another 25% of our costs will be internal business resources. And I think as you would expect, building up our deployment and enablement side. This partnership, obviously investing in sales and marketing and some operations, back off operations group. As you would expect, even post initial development, there will be ongoing recurring expenses related to the client tenant and the post development. That's another 25%. Last but not least, although it's a smaller component of the investment of 5%, we are implementing corporate Workday for our corporate tenant development -- we learned a lot. This will come on at a -- in a sooner time frame, the decline in tenant development. We're going to learn a lot. They're in the experience of installing that corporate tenant. So it's a great learning experience. So we want to practice what we preach, and we feel like it's a very good fit for our 44 100-or-so employee client and we'll talk about where we are on that timeline, but we've already made some pretty progress along those lines. So that's really our side of the Insperity investment on the Workday investment. I think it's pretty obvious that they're delivering a fully developed premium HCM product, one of the best. We feel the best out there. What was the alternative. Our internal development of a similar product, where they have such a large head start. It would take us a very long time to get to market in a pretty costly investment. So then bringing that to the table is huge to their side of the investment. What they've also committed to is resources, providing resources to make product modifications to their HCM product that is specific to our partnership solution. So there are certain things that we have to do between us, to get this partner solution up and running and launched, and they have committed resources to that. Another feature is with their product being the premium HCM product, obviously, throughout their years, they've had releases from time to time about ongoing enhancements to their product, but also maintenance enhancements, that's on them. So they'll be invested in the dollars as it relates to keeping that Workday product current and improved in handling any maintenance issues. Another investment they've made and this has been more recent, is developing quite a few resources in training our deployment and enablement resources. And it's a lot of work. For our people going through all the detail and work books, et cetera, and learning the implementation and deployment and implementing this Workday product and we've spent a number of weeks, months between the two different parties. We've come a long way there, and I think we've made great progress there. But obviously, they've spent some resources enabling us to do that. We'll get into this a little bit, I believe, in our marketing in our panel discussion. But obviously, the co-branding, the co-marketing, the co-selling will bring a big benefit to our business, not only in the -- selling the mid-market and emerging growth. But even if you have yourself aligned with Workday out there, in the marketplace, we even feel like that could help out even our core smaller sales efficiency. And the last being the sales lead flow, and we'll get into discussion a little bit later, but some of the sales -- warm sales lead flow from them to us, where we can sell our PEO services along with the Workday products. Okay. So that's sort of the investment we're making and Workday is making on the partnership. What are the key drivers to the return on investment? Well, sales efficiency, client retention and pricing and profitability. I would say the sales efficiency and the client retention, we could see improvement there before the launch of the product itself. As far as the sales efficiency, obviously, mid-market is needing more of a sophisticated HCM product to sell into these larger clients. And having that out there gives us the ability to sell that, even prior to the launch ,because you're selling to a mid-market client that ultimately wants that solution out there, as they continue to grow. It's really the same on what we call our emerging growth clients. Those in the 50 to 150 range that have every intention on growing into the mid-market space. And they're always looking down the road, and what kind of solutions you will have there. And so, having this Workday product also help out selling into that particular segment. It's really the same thing, the factors that impact the improved client retention of a mid-market client is growing, now needs a more sophisticated HCM product. We've got the product there. We talked about earlier this year and our year-end transition in our guidance. We did have some large clients leave for that particular reason. And we've had some subsequent calls to them, and we can get into this when Roger and the service team talk. But that would be a way of obviously keeping some of those clients. And client retention is our most effective, cost-effective driver. You don't lose a large client, you're not having to replace it with 20 small clients, and go through that whole sales effort and cost. So that's very important to the business. The third factor being the potential to improve profitability. And so Jim will get into this. But it gives us the potential to have higher enrollment fees, because we're going to be implementing the product on behalf of our clients on higher ongoing service fees for their use of the product. And another thing, the way we feel we can improve profitability is you have larger clients, a longer-time client tenure, you get further operating scale and further operating leverage. I want to spend a little bit of time, and this is really just a sensitivity table to talk about -- we talked about the three different components, and let's take a look at the sales efficiency and how it affects our model. We define sales efficiency as sales per BPA per month. We always have an ongoing effort to improve sales efficiency, whether it be through our marketing efforts, our selling process, the commission programs to incent our BPAs and sales management. But on top of that, we really believe the Workday partnership solution can improve that sales efficiency. This is a chart really to show the sensitivity of sales efficiency on growth and ultimately on how it could impact our adjusted EBITDA, keeping the other growth factors constant like retention and growth in the base. We keep that just constant and how can this improvement. I think the bottom line is for every 10 basis point improvement in sales efficiency, you're getting about a 2% improvement in worksite employee growth, over a 5-year period by the time you hit year 5, it's about a $50 million in improvement for every 10 basis point improvement in sales efficiency over that 5-year period. So rather material, and it's always been again, a key component of the business model. Same sort of thing on the client retention side, we can move client retention. For those same reasons, up 2%, you would expect about a 1.5% improvement. Everything else being equal, 1.5% improvement. In average growth over the 5 years and by the 5-year period, when you hit that 5 year, about a $35 million improvement in EBITDA. Okay. So I think just wrapping up, I think we are very confident that we have a very strong financial model for sustained long-term earnings growth. I want to remind everybody that this Workday partnership is an offensive move. It's not a defensive move, it's all about the potential to accelerate our growth, because it provides an opportunity for improved sales efficiency, client retention and additional revenue streams off of the Workday partnership and operating leverage. So we're feeling very good how it fits into the long-term plan, and we're very excited about it. And at this point, I'd like to pass the call on over to Jim Allison.

Jim Allison

executive
#5

Good morning. It's good to speak with everybody today. My name is Jim Allison. And as I get started this morning, I'd like to just give you a little bit of background about myself. I've been with the company for 27 years. I spent my first 14 years with the company and the finance department in a variety of roles, working mostly for Doug Sharp. And next 7 years after that, I've headed up our pricing and cost analysis team. Our focus there was on setting new and renewing pricing for all clients, and also the client renewals process, as well as all the analytics and data that was used by both the direct cost side of the business and the revenue side of the business, to make sure we were all using the same information. Over the last 6 years, I've added to that role, the responsibility for all of our benefits programs and the related services of those programs, including the healthcare, workers' compensation and retirement areas. So I have two topics for today. The first is to talk about a little bit more detail about the proven approach that we have to managing our pricing, our direct cost programs and our profitability. And then the second topic is the enhancements that we expect from the Workday strategic partnership. So Doug showed this slide a few minutes ago. Gross profit per employee growing from $257 10 years ago to $277 last year. The additional services are a relatively small portion of the overall gross profit, although they're growing quickly now and especially because of Workforce Acceleration. But the total service fee, which is the PEO pricing, that is the biggest part of our gross profit and it really breaks down into two categories. The first one, I'm going to focus on is in the middle, the management fee or the surplus that we earn from our direct cost programs. That's a really important part of us providing sustainable long-term profitability. And over the last 10 years, that management fee has grown by about 200 basis points. On the HR service side, those have declined somewhat over the last 10 years, really for two strategic factors. The first is a significant mix change, related to our success in the middle market segment. In 2013, middle market represented about 19% of our total worksite employees. Last year, that was up to 26%. Those clients, mid-market clients, typically have a little bit lower pricing on a per worksite employee basis, but a more similar level of profitability to the efficiency gains that we have with larger accounts. So our -- we've also -- the second part of why that's gone down a little bit is the pricing policies that we've put in place. We've really seen a growth in acceptance of the PEO market. And as we've done that, we have made pricing changes to try to gain market share, as well as enhance our customer lifetime value by keeping customers for a longer period of time. So our overall goal, historically and moving forward is to match or exceed our direct cost trends with pricing increases. And that really happens in two ways. The first way we do it is try to bend the cost trends down. Every dollar that we don't have to pass through to a customer is beneficial to the company and to them. So we do that through very active claims management, a variety of ways. So we're managing claims as they come through the door. We're also engaging employees in well-being programs and care management programs, return to work programs, loss prevention and safety programs, all aimed at trying to reduce the level of -- and cost of claims. But we also try to bend the trend down by focusing on strategic changes to our program structures, to our plan design and program design. And then we also use our pricing methodologies to influence that. All of those changes would be aimed at incentivizing the behaviors of our clients and employees to move towards more efficient use of costs. So as we -- when we set that out at the beginning of each year and we have a plan a couple of years in advance, we constantly monitor and adjust and forecast our direct cost trends as we go through the year. And as a result of that, we adjust our pricing targets. And then we apply those changing pricing targets to new client sales and client renewals as we go through the year, month-by-month. And this helps us to reduce the level of long-term volatility overall. So the pricing methodology is a really key part of our long-term success, and it's really focused on three areas of focus. The first one is in the risk assessment area. We use a very holistic and multifaceted risk assessment process, that spans all the different HR-related risks that we manage. And our goal in that process is to attract and retain clients that fit our risk profile, that reduce the risk for adverse selection and sustain a solid demographic profile of clients and worksite employees over time. If we do that well, which we have over time, it allows us to focus on long-term pricing stability for clients. And that's something that's very unusual for small- and medium-sized clients in the marketplace. Generally speaking, time is our friend. We manage a lot of different kinds of risk. Clients are generally on the small side, they have good years and they have bad years, they have more good years than bad years. And so from a pricing perspective, we are very measured in the pricing decisions that we make for individual clients. And this helps promote client retention. And ultimately, that helps enhance customer lifetime value. The third piece is our proprietary pricing and billing system. We call that accurate. There's many different components to our pricing, as I mentioned earlier. And some of those are priced as a percentage of payroll, payroll taxes and workers' comp being the two big examples. Others like employee benefits and HR services are priced on a per employee per month basis. Now our system prices and quotes and bills our clients in a way that lines up very well with the way our direct costs are incurred. And this helps us to most effectively match price and cost over time. But it also mimics the real world, and so it's familiar to clients and prospects when we're having proposal discussions about pricing. So the key takeaway that I want you guys to have is it's the integration of our direct cost programs and our pricing methodology, that really unlock value for us and for our clients. And when I say the integration of those two, the decisions that we make in our direct cost programs help and that's the cause of providing lower cost to our clients through lower pricing. So the economies of scale that we get in our programs are really important and the efficiencies that we gain through program structure as well. At the same time, we can utilize components of our pricing methodology to try to incentivize clients, to then take actions that will help control cost over time. So it's the two of those working together and the sharing of information, making sure we're all working off the same sheet of paper that makes all that go around. And it becomes a key part not only of reflecting the value proposition to our client, but it becomes an integral part of the value proposition we deliver to our clients, and it's also a key driver to our long-term success. So now I want to transition to talking about what we see in our area of the business around the Insperity and Workday strategic partnership, and also the findings from some of our initial market research. So we have worked with a top-tier product positioning and pricing consulting firm. They have extensive experience in a wide variety of service and technology industries, and they have specific experience in both the PEO market and the HCM market. And their research with us helped focus on the product positioning of the new PEO solutions that's been developed on the Workday platform, as well as the potential pricing power of the joint solution relative to our current PEO solution that we provide today to the larger clients. So as we look at some of this research -- first I want to focus on product positioning. So this chart really focuses on the importance in the eyes of companies in the 200 to 2,500 space, the importance as a value driver certain criteria. The green ones are PEO criteria, the blue -- the dark blue ones are HCM criteria, and then the final one is total cost of ownership. So the Y axis is really measuring the importance of those criteria as value drivers. And you can see that, we've identified a lot of really key value drivers in the eyes of our clients, a lot of the things that we do and the HCM capabilities we bring to the table are really important to that for those -- that size company. And that's in the top two quadrants there. Then focusing over on the top right-hand quadrant, there's really two thoughts here. One is that HCM capabilities are really top of mind for this target market that we're looking at; and secondly, when you start to look at the -- on the X axis, the relative performance improvement that participants in this research expected by utilizing the Workday platform. There's a lot of perception of improvement in HCM capabilities with the Workday platform. The final thing I would say is that the light blue dot in the middle is total cost of ownership. And total cost of ownership, obviously, a very important feature for anybody who's making an important decision about the products that they're buying. But I think it's important to recognize here that as we're seeing value driver improvements in the functionality and the services that we're delivering to clients. There's also an improvement in the view of the total cost of ownership of the service even at higher pricing levels. So digging in just a little bit deeper on some of our key feedback. I think a couple of takeaways from this is, we got a lot of validation regarding our initial beliefs about the Workday strategic partnership and the fact that it combines the best of both worlds; high-quality, scalable technology along with premium customer service. So the top two sections here are related to technology. Clearly, we saw in the research that Workday is seen as being the best HR technology out there. Secondly, what it allows businesses to do with the technology. One of the very largest priorities is scalability and automation for larger companies. And we clearly saw that come through in feedback. Moving down on the bottom, relates to the customer service components. All the best technology in the world is great, but if you don't use it or don't use it well and don't do things right, you're not going to get out of it what you want to get out of it. So this is a client segment that really needs help and expertise in utilizing technology to the best of their ability. And it's a marketplace that does have acceptance of the PEO industry and good long-term relationships. So great service is something that is really key, that came across to clients. And then the last one is time to value. What we see here is that quicker implementation is clearly a value driver for these customers. 6 months was really kind of the general view of what the appropriate amount of time that they would like to spend or could spend to bring value to them. And you can see this one particular customer says, if it could be implemented in 3 to 6 months, that's a real value add. So important feedback as we start to think about our product positioning. The third view on product positioning that I want to talk about is just the product segment fit. So there's a couple of things here. The blue line here is our current PEO solution in the marketplace. And one of the things that you see is that we have good market acceptance of our current product, but it does decline somewhat as client size gets larger. As we did the initial research around the joint solution with -- using the Workday platform, what we saw in that research was a very consistent high level of appeal across a very wide part of the market. And that's the orange line. You can see that consistently high level of fit. And that's really important for us, because we want to make sure that we can go after this market very strongly and very consistently, as we move into the longer term. So thinking about, again, the impact of -- for us financially, I think heavily in my role around customer lifetime value. And so one of the things that I'm very interested in is how this partnership can impact each of the core elements of customer lifetime value. And we're encouraged by the initial market research that we've had in this area. So the first thing, dealing with the left side client acquisition costs driven by sales efficiency. We do believe that the new offering will improve sales efficiency. It will -- and reduce client acquisition costs. As Doug mentioned just a minute ago, this starts even before the rollout of the new solution with the sharing of leads, that we expect will add additional prospects for our BPAs. But as we look further out to the new solution, we also see that we have a broad appeal in our target market, because of the complementary nature of Insperity's PEO solution, and Workday's HCM technology capabilities. And so this consistent product segment fit gives us a market-leading position, especially for companies over 250 employees. And that opportunity should increase our opportunities at the top of the funnel, but also could improve our win rate, when we get in front of those prospects. Now moving to the other side of the chart here, thinking about client retention, we believe that we will improve client retention, as well. both in the short run and in the long run. We've had a lot of great conversations with our clients about the coming solution. There's a lot of interest in seeing how this develops. As we look at the new solution, historically, we've utilized a lot of multiyear contracts with larger customers, typically two years, and that helps provide some certainty and a level of insight around client retention in any given year. In the technology industry, 3-year contracts or longer are very common. And so we believe that this is going to give us the opportunity to utilize more and longer-term contracts to help better manage client retention in this larger target segment. We also have, in our initial research, it helped. We were validated in understanding that the success penalty that we have, with our clients is typically the result of a difficult decision that clients have to make. This is a trade-off between technology capabilities and service. So simply put, our customers desire a more sophisticated and scalable technology platform, but they don't want to give up the PEO solution that they love and the service that we provide. And so the new solution should help reduce or delay the success penalty as we move forward. And then lastly, the middle part of the chart is really focused on client profitability. We charge an enrollment fee today, Workday projects will always include an implementation fee. And our initial research indicates a willingness to pay a significantly higher enrollment fee for the new solution that we're looking at. Now we anticipate that, that higher enrollment fee will still be lower than the total of our enrollment fees today and workday-related implementation fees as well. Because many parts of the PEO solution are curated in advance, and that means they can be set up in our setup that we're doing right now. Our upfront implementation. And so that means that a lot of parts that we're -- a lot of what we're doing right now is reusable or even universal as we bring on individual clients in the future. So from a pricing perspective around enrollment fees, we're really going to be looking to set those at a level that are acceptable in the market that cover our client onboarding costs and also monetize a portion or portions of our upfront investment over time. So the last piece I want to mention is recurring fees and then here, I'm talking about our ongoing PEO service fees. So going back to the chart about how our pricing works. We don't really expect any change to the way we quote price and bill our clients. We're going to do that largely the same way we do today. But we do expect that we can receive a premium price compared to the middle market client pricing that we have today. Again, it's based on our initial research that revealed high adoption rates at significantly higher pricing above the level of HR service fees that we have in that segment today. And that was driven by a strong appetite and value attributed to Workday capabilities, particularly around HR administration, recruiting and talent and performance management. We also see that there's an opportunity for us to collaborate with our clients in new ways through the Workday platform, which can further link technology with service delivery and unlock additional value for our clients. So we expect that most of the functionality, most of the modules of Workday are going to be delivered inside the PEO solution. But certain components of that may be a better fit as a separate add-on service. Probably the biggest example right now is ongoing deployment and enablement support, which is highly valued by customers. But I think a decision on whether or not to set that as part of the HR services PEPM pricing or price separately maybe as a block of hours, that requires further investigation on our part. There are also some additional components that likely would be utilized by a smaller portion of our clients that could be candidates for pricing as a separate service. And this would be similar to the way we do direct placement recruiting or retirement services today. So in summary, we're very excited about the value drivers that have been identified and about the early indications that we've received about pricing. They both validate our enthusiasm about the Workday strategic partnership. And as we get closer to launch, we'll continue to refine and optimize our go-to-market strategy over pricing with the goal, again, of making not only our pricing reflective of the value proposition we deliver to clients, but making it an integral part of the value proposition. And so now we are going to take a quick 10-minute break, let everybody get a little break. [Break]

Thomas Gearty

executive
#6

Welcome back from break. My name is Tom Gearty, and I'm the Senior Vice President of Corporate Development for Insperity. My role at the company is to look for new ways to generate revenue, including ways to capitalize on market opportunities by improving on our current offerings. I led the effort that validated and negotiated the strategic partnership with Workday. And due to the significance of the opportunity, I expect to continue leading our execution efforts until we launch the new joint solution. I'm ultimately responsible for both supporting our strategic partnership and bringing the joint solution from idea to reality. Before the break, Paul, Jim and Doug spoke about how we expect the Workday strategic partnership will be a catalyst for growth. I'm going to spend my time with you discussing the efforts required to bring the joint solution offering together and our efforts to organize around that work. I'll also share more detail on how we're approaching the joint solution itself and the progress we're making. But before that, I'm going to share a little bit more about how we arrived at the strategic partnership. For quite some time, we've been considering the need for an additional solution for our larger clients. In fact, Workday had been top of mind as an example of what we were seeking. With our own growth, we'd already been exploring a move to Workday for our own corporate employees. And so the time seemed right to test interest in a bigger relationship, becoming both a Workday customer and creating a strategic partnership that could open new market opportunities for both companies. In October of last year, we have completed our internal corporate evaluation of Workday's platform and the recommendation was made to move forward. Paul then made the outreach that put us on the path to where we're at today. In late November, we kicked off an effort between Insperity and Workday to validate the possibility of jointly developing the preeminent solution for target businesses where Workday would become a client-facing technology and Insperity would deliver our premium HR services. We believe that combination will be competitively disruptive. And through that combination, we could greatly enhance our clients' likelihood, degree and speed of success. Our team spent the next few weeks working together through the key requirements of our business and the functionality of Workday's platform. Those efforts culminated with the mid-December, 1.5 day meeting between our executive teams, where a mutual recommendation was made to proceed. Over the next 6 weeks, our technology teams supported by functional subject matter experts conducted highly detailed deep dives across all areas of our business, gaining even more confidence that the joint solution as possible. We also negotiated the details of our strategic partnership, including important commitments from both sides. On resourcing, platform licensing, a minimum of 5 years of exclusivity from the time we launched the solution. Workday's role in getting us ready to deploy and provide service on the platform, active lead sharing between our companies and the co-branding, co-marketing and co-selling of the new solution. All areas that are critically important to the success of the strategic partnership, which we announced on February 8. What came through in those conversations was a clear commitment from both companies' executive leadership to make the strategic partnership a success. While we're still early on in our efforts, the commitment has already shined through as we've moved from idea to execution. Now let's move on to how we've organized and are executing on these efforts. Due to the large scope of work, we broke the master project plan down into 4 main efforts that we're calling the 4 pillars, which represent the deployment of our corporate tenant, the creation and deployment of the joint solution or the PEO client tenant; the deployment and enablement efforts needed to support both tenants; and the development and execution of our mutual go-to-market strategy. Both Insperity and Workday have expressed a commitment for speed to market and to help stay on track, we've established a formal governance process. The strategic partnership is sponsored by chief executives of both companies and there's an executive steering committee that meets regularly to review progress and break through any roadblocks that come up. You'll notice that this executive steering company is populated with a selection of the top executives of both companies. The project is being led jointly by Insperity and Workday's program management offices with established groups focused on the large efforts for technology solution development, deployment and enablement, go-to-market, and co-selling that represent our 4 pillars. Our organizations have created teams of subject matter experts to address the technology deployment and go-to-market aspects. These teams are working together and meeting with greater frequency. And the cultural fit between our companies makes this work very naturally. Now let's look at each pillar and how it fits into the master project plan. The decision to put the deployment of our corporate tenant on the front end of the overall effort was made for several reasons. With our current size and our expected growth plans, we've reached a point where we could benefit from the added capabilities of the Workday platform. Historically, our corporate HR function has been handled by the same system that we use for our PEO clients. Many of the requests from our corporate HR team have echoed the request we heard from our larger clients. We also believe we could gain important insights from the type of package scope, pre-configured tenant launch experience, we intend to use with clients going forward into the new solution, and viewed as a foundational step for our internal employees to gain familiarity and expertise with the platform. The work needed to move our corporate employees from our proprietary system to a new Workday tenant is also a subset of the work needed to ready the PEO client tenant, which provides additional benefits for the process. I'm pleased to say we've made exceptional progress against the deployment plan to the extent that we've already been delivered our foundational tenant. We'll continue to work on refining our internal processes, building out the corporate specific integrations and begin testing with the goal of transitioning our corporate employees to the Workday tenant in January 2025. Now let's move on to the PEO client tenant where I'll be able to share a little bit more detail on how we're approaching the building of the joint solution. The PEO client tenant is the new joint solution that we believe provides us with the additional market opportunity that you heard my colleagues earlier discuss. Here's how we envision the joint solution. It will be a single Workday tenant with client level separation. The platform will be embedded in our comprehensive solution for our larger clients who elect to join the solution. Workday will be the client-facing technology, and we will implement, support and maintain this tenant. We're building the solution from a broad selection of Workday's offerings, which are shown on the next slide, based on all our market research to represent what we believe will be the highest impact for our largest clients. The Workday platform modules that we plan to build the joint solution from are shown in the arc above our core PEO elements. We anticipate that Insperity's current proprietary system will continue to serve smaller clients in our current PEO solutions. However, this system is also foundational to the joint solution. The reason that some of the elements in our proprietary system are specific to the PEO business and do not reside in Workday. For example, the compliance elements that are illustrated below the arc in this graphic. Above the line is where we have the power of the Workday solution to this compliance underpinning, giving us the ability to add more robust capability for our larger clients. Now bringing the functionality of these systems together requires a significant investment of resources and will be one of the drivers of our ultimate time line. So I'd like to explain that further as well. We've identified over 175 integrations with nearly 70 vendors that will be required for the solution to perform the way we want it to. About half of those will need to be built prior to the launch of our corporate tenant and have been scheduled to be built at the front end of the project. The other half will need to be completed before we go live with the joint solution. We've begun predesign sessions with targeted vendors, have prioritized the integration builds and have scheduled them all into design waves with the first wave launching within the next few weeks. I've just shown the areas of functionality that we expect to pull from to build out the joint solution and discuss the integration efforts that we're proceeding through to enable its performance. Now let's walk through a handful of improvements that we expect should be present in the new joint solution. Through the introduction of Workday's platform as our client-facing technology, we plan to offer the key elements of our PEO solutions with significant uplifts in our areas important to larger clients. We've already identified a number of expected improvements in the joint solution. Here are a few examples of the improvements that we are targeting. By staying native to the Workday platform from applicant tracking through time tracking, payroll and beyond, we expect to eliminate several integrated point solutions with different user interfaces. This should also eliminate some duplicative data entry as well as multiple single sign-on scenarios that and the need to maintain different credentials between systems. We expect a faster payroll calculation time reducing the turnaround between payroll submission and cutting checks. The Workday platform offers more robust client alerts, reminders and notifications of processes with deadlines. And we plan to offer an improved ability to bulk up load data into the system. We also anticipate that the Workday platform will consolidate more HR functions, including payroll and recruiting into a single system of record. We plan to offer simplified employee management by way of more automated workflows and an enhanced ability to delegate and automate business processes that travel through the system. We expect clients will be able to leverage real-time reporting and predictive analytics for better future planning to offer advanced analytics that pull from a single data source and a robust reporting engine that's more adapt crossing functional lines. And Workday offers a much more extensive list of seamless integrations within their point solutions integrations library. And due to the ubiquity of Workday platform adoption, they enjoy a better 360-degree support of those integrations than we do today. This new functionality combined with our core competencies creates a solution that we believe does not exist in the market today. and we expect it to be the best available solution for midsize growing businesses. The development work is well underway, and the Insperity and Workday teams are functioning in close alignment. The cultural similarities between both companies really shows up here and helps to make the complexity of the efforts easier to work through. And while we're not going to dive into a detailed technology discussion here today, you'll note they're past the planning phase and into architecture and configuration. We expect to receive our foundational tenet in July with a thorough testing period to follow. After running through the next 2 pillars, I'll discuss a few of the project milestones and the work underway to determine the ultimate launch date. Our third pillar, deployment and enablement includes all the efforts we are undertaking to establish our internal Workday expertise. We're working very closely with the Workday team to identify the training and certification needs of the various operational personas for both our technology teams and service providers that will be required to configure, deploy, support and maintain the new solution. For each of these personas we're developing a training and certification pathway based on Workday's extensive course catalog to prepare the teams to perform their roles in the system. Our current focus is squarely on training to enable the joint solution. But in doing so, we'll be developing key capabilities that we expect will allow us to perform more advanced configuration services within a client's environment. And longer term, we believe this will create the expertise to allow us to perform select services for clients migrating to an owned Workday tenant in the future. The fourth and final pillar represents the efforts both companies are pursuing to establish sales and marketing dynamics that are foundational to the success of the strategic partnership. By matching the strength of the joint solution with the collective power of our trusted brands, and the broad reach of both of our sales teams, we expect to capitalize on an unmet need in the market and to create more clients. These efforts include immediately establishing lead sharing between the companies to create more clients inside the solutions we offer today. Workday currently receives interest from companies that don't fit their ideal size and investment profile and many of these prospects fit squarely in our targeted buyer profile. By introducing and sparing into these opportunities now, we expect to collectively build another pipeline for the joint solution together as these companies start out in our current solutions and continue to grow into the joint solution. Insperity will reciprocate by referring larger prospects to Workday that we determine better fit their solution or once a client -- current client needs are beyond their joint solution. They also in teleco branding of the joint solution. We intend to make both of our strong brands visible in the branding of the joint solution, to convey the power of the combination of Workday's technology and Insperity service delivery and leverage the market's familiarity and trust in both companies. We'll be pursuing co-marketing efforts with Workday. We've connected our respected marketing and business development teams to build and execute efforts to engage, guide and support prospective clients to the Insperity or Workday solution that best fits their needs. And we're creating active engagement today between our sales teams to collectively win more business. We've established a co-selling council between our company's sales leadership to discuss active opportunities in the middle market and enterprise space, to create policies and recommend incentives that eliminate conflict and reward the sales professional for acting in the best interest of the prospective client and to drive engagement at the account executive and business performance consultant level. Now let's review where all these efforts come into play and the milestones that will show our progress. Identifying and planning all the tracks of work necessary is critical to the determination of project milestones and the setting of time line goals leading to the target launch date. There are master project plans for each of our 4 pillars, which are too detailed to share, but this slide summarizes the many work tracks that are part of them, and that when further understood will enable us to refine our time lines and establish a launch date. Now I'm extremely passionate about the opportunity that we have in front of us and for the strategic partnership we've built with Workday. Our efforts to create a new solution where businesses won't have to sacrifice service and support to gain functionality can be game-changing for clients and for the marketplace. And I'll continue driving our teams to bring that to market as quickly as possible. Now I'd like to introduce our President and COO, Steve Arizpe.

A. Arizpe

executive
#7

Tom, thank you, and welcome, everyone, to our final session before our Q&A session immediately following this. We are really excited about this opportunity. And I'll be joined by an esteem panel here shortly to host our panel. And the whole idea here is that we want to change this little structure of our meeting today from presentation, which I'm sure has been very beneficial to everyone, but we want to change it to a conversation. And what we're going to focus on is really highlighting the fact that we've built an amazing business. And we're going to do a little bit deeper dive. You've heard a lot of information related to that this morning. And we're going to introduce some stories and make this even more meaningful than what has already been communicated. We're also going to discuss some of the key differentiators that really provide a competitive advantage for Insperity. And then we -- obviously, the hot topic today is we want to spend the balance of our time discussing this Workday strategic partnership and how the opportunities we believe are powerful for both firms. So to do this, we're going to go through a panel. I'll start with my introduction. I'm Steve Arizpe, President and Chief Operating Officer with the company, 35 years with the company. I wasn't here at the beginning, but I got here as fast as I could. And my areas of responsibility are sales, marketing, our service operations, technology, corporate HR and then our traditional employment solution that we've -- you've heard referenced as workforce acceleration, excited to be here hosting it. I'll be joined today by Laura Wilbanks, who is our Senior Vice President of Marketing and Business Development, and while only here for a year, has already made significant impact. She brings 25 years of strategic marketing experience and expertise to our company. So she's earned a reputation for linking the company's vision to its marketing strategy and influencing change. So she leads all activities related to marketing, campaign marketing strategy, digital relationship and communications. So in her 13 months, she has led some significant change here at the company, she inherited a highly functioning marketing department and just simply has made it better. Secondly, Keith Simmons, who currently leads our mid-market sales organization, joined the company 20 years ago, representing our services as a BPA, as a business performance adviser, had immediate success and all of that and was soon promoted to district manager and led that up until about 10 years ago, where he now leads our mid-market sales effort, including national accounts and private capital markets. Keith, thanks for being here with us. And last but not least is Roger Nicholson, our Senior Vice President of Service Operations, joined the company 22 years ago as a frontline service professional meeting and exceeding the needs of our clients interacting with entrepreneurs, CEOs and key influencers within our target base and delivering on that promise, was promoted into as a general manager for the Eastern region. I think it was referred to as all offices from Miami to Maine. So a large market, which has now since been divided into 2 different service regions as we exist today. In 2021, was promoted to his current role and leads our 1,700 team of service professionals delivering our high profile and highly needed HR solutions to our clients. So welcome, panelists. It is great to have you here with me. And what do you say we get started? Let me start with this first question. We've accomplished here a lot here at the company. We've been very successful. What is it from a sales and marketing and service operations, perspective has made us successful. Keith, let's start with you.

Keith Simmons

executive
#8

There's a lot. I can go on for the rest of the 40 minutes that we have today. I'm not going to do that. I want to make sure that Laura and Roger get their time. But I'm going to talk about two components that I think have really helped drive our success over the 38 years that we've been around. The first is the Business Performance Advisor, the BPA. That's a huge part of it. And the second is organic growth, how we've been able to build organically over the years to start off the profile of a business performance adviser. These are the folks that are out meeting with our prospects, have in the business conversations, they average 7 to 10 years of sales or ownership of a business experience. And average age is in the mid-40s. This is not typically their first rodeo. They have been around. They are seasoned. They understand business, and that allows them to go out and have a strong business conversation with business owners all over the country, and they represent our full suite of HR comprehensive services. And that's unique in our world versus our primary competitors that is, we do it a little bit differently, and that allows that business conversation and understand the goals, the objectives of what the business is trying to accomplish, not trying to pigeonhole them into a specific product or service. And what that does is allows us to see where we can really plug in and because they represent the full suite of services, they are able to do that successfully. And when we run into private capital markets or a mid-market account or national accounts, we have some specialists that the BPA partners with. So they don't leave, they stay there. They're part of the entire conversation. We have an example of a Workforce Acceleration, mid-market opportunity that a BPA brought to us. And so we have the conversation. Things are going great. Part of the conversation we learned that they're moving forward, going to start a franchising model. Well, we have a national accounts program, works out pretty good. So BPA brings in mid-market. We bring in a national accounts, we are all in the room together, having a conversation. Now we have a new client for traditional, and we have a new national account partnership because the BPA had the foresight to have the strong business conversation. The other part is the organic growth. Over the last 10 years, we've added 400 business performance advisers. We've opened up 50 new sales offices in 20 new markets. Now I think everybody realizes, you don't just wake up one day and say we're hiring 400 people. Let's do that tomorrow. So this took a lot of planning from all the different departments because sales is the tip of the spear. Everybody has to be ready. Roger has to be ready. Laura has to be ready. So everybody working together to plan and develop and execute that works beautifully when you do it right, and we've done it right. I think about our sales performance improvement group. That's a lot of BPA it's coming through. A lot of new district managers coming through. And they had the foresight to build the curriculum in the learning environment to make sure that we have consistent messaging, consistent results coming out throughout the entire organization. And when you have these two things, when you have a strong caliber BPA and you have an evolution through organic growth, you can evolve your infrastructure, your policies, your compensation and you're not making massive changes throughout the entire sales force, which allows them to keep focused and do what they do best, which is have business conversations and focus on trying to help businesses succeed so communities prosper. And we're able to keep the secret sauce that has made us great for 38 years.

A. Arizpe

executive
#9

We talk a lot about sales efficiency. It's in everything that we do. And one of the items related to sales efficiency is talking to the right prospect, which is the psychographic and demographic fit, which kind of really leads into our marketing efforts. So Laura, you're the newbie here on this panel. So you've got a great perspective as you come into our company in this last 13 months. What is it from your area that has made us successful?

Laura Wilbanks

executive
#10

No, I agree. I think there's a number of things. And I am really proud of the fact that marketing has been such a contributor to the success of the organization. And we heard that from Paul earlier. And I will say from my experience, the way that a company views marketing makes a really big difference. And in the case of Insperity, Insperity absolutely believes and it's been proven that marketing is just one piece of the growth organization, the other one being sales. And so the partnership between sales and marketing is so instrumental. Our goals are shared together. So to me, that really sets us up well -- very well from a success perspective. And as you mentioned, I joined the company just over a year ago and I came into a situation where there was a really strong marketing foundation already in place. We had a talented team with very deep experience and understanding of the market. So I felt very fortunate with what I inherited. And as you know, from the time that we interviewed together, what I was most excited about and to me, what really distinguishes Insperity is the brand. And we have this incredible strong brand in place. And we're known for our exceptional business performance advisers that Keith talked about, our really deep HR experience, the fantastic, excellent service competencies, advanced technology, and frankly, those agile processes that really scale with our customers. And one of the things that you heard earlier from Paul and honestly, from the video that we shared with Workday, we are known as a trusted adviser. And you don't have to take my word. We actually just within the last year, completed our brand survey. And among our primary competitors, we were rated #1 as a trusted adviser, which really, to me, reinforces what we are all about. So I love that. The other thing that I found as I came into the organization, and I've been in B2B marketing for, as you said, 25 years. I have never seen such a strong relationship marketing program. And it really does distinguish and we talked about that a little bit earlier, but the fact that much of our marketing is really focused on having more of a personalized interaction with prospects and clients through our networking events, our center of influence events, strategic partnership that really sets us apart. And I find that to be incredibly unique for any B2B company and certainly within our ecosystem. And then, of course, I cannot forget, in my opinion, what really sets us apart, it is the culture. And I think you've heard it a couple of times today, it is 4,400 passionate employees all focused on the purpose and mission, helping clients succeed so communities prosper. And the first time I heard that and with my father being a small business owner, I thought that hits at the heart, right? And so the passion to really help our clients succeed understanding that really helps the larger community. That is absolutely a distinguishing factor and having been here for 1.5 years, we live that every day. So those are the things I would bring up.

A. Arizpe

executive
#11

That's excellent. We have to talk about this consistency of the interaction that our prospects and then clients receive starting with marketing and sales, teeing this up to have a customer. That's what it's all about. Now it's up to the service organization, right? So what is it that's made us successful, Roger?

Roger Nicholson

executive
#12

Steve, I would be remiss if I didn't start in the same spot. Our people are the difference makers they are specialists in a number of different areas of expertise from payroll and benefits to HR and employee relations and performance. It is a remarkable group with remarkable tenure across the organization. With 22 years at the company today, I often find myself as the rookie in the room when I walk in and I'm talking with a number of our teammates, but I would agree with my teammates here that it's the people ultimately that make the difference. Now we've built strategic models from which to serve our clients, and those models meet our clients where they are. We have the opportunity to meet them where they are, understand their goals and objectives and build a customized service plan to take them where they want to go. And that evolves over time, and they can move from one model to the next and it's that flexibility that makes our model special. Beyond that, I would tell you that the teamwork, the synergy that exists that it's really reflected right here between the three of us, but that works at the grassroots level too. In our field offices, our sales and service teams live and work together. And each day, they get the opportunity to learn from one another, what prospects are telling us is important to them today as the market ebbs and flows and things change. We know what's going on in the moment. And what our clients are telling us is really important to them right now as they navigate a labyrinthian kind of market with the complexities that our regulatory environment as complex as today often yield. So they learn from one another. They help one another. We grow together, and we build customer relationships that last a lifetime. And that's something that's truly unique that we're working toward together constantly. And ultimately, I would tell you from a service perspective, and obviously, this is probably a bit biased because I lead our service organization, and I work with our teams day in and day out. But we do hard things really, really well. Give us a Rubik's Cube of sorts to solve for, and we're going to tell you what the answer is. From payroll which if you've ever done payroll can be very complicated to 99% accuracy on that very first payroll to benefits whose plans by design change on an annual basis, time and attendance and all of the permutations that it takes to get that just right. Those are our foundational services. We get those right each and every time to more specialized services. The specialized services like as an example, our EEO teams or our compensation services teams. Those are much more complicated things to deliver in the marketplace. And the vast majority of our peer group don't even endeavor to try to deliver on those kinds of services. So we run the gamut from blocking and tackling to the most sophisticated kind of HR service that a client might require and we are about to do it everywhere in between. When it's all said and done, it's the how we get things done that ultimately matters. The breadth of expertise, depth of expertise really matter, but it's the level of care, the wrapper that we put on those things that we will go to the nth degree to make sure that our clients' needs are taken care of.

A. Arizpe

executive
#13

Roger, what's interesting about the tagline that you just mentioned, the breadth, depth and the level of care. When that was developed, the level of care portion of that statement came from our customer. It wasn't anything that we came up with. We were just doing what we thought was the right thing. And I've got a story, I think that is important that would really bring this home. And it had to do with -- this was during COVID, and I don't know exactly how deep we were into that. This has now been 4 years ago when we were all sent home. And a call came into our contact center, our contact center specialist introduced herself and said, I'm with Insperity, how can I help you? And they began to talk about the challenges that they were all facing because it wasn't just our clients that were facing it, we were too. We're people too. We had our own challenges along the way, but we were there to lend some support. And they began to talk about those challenges and started to get into several minutes into the call. And finally, the professional said, "Well, what can I do for you"? And the response was this. Actually, I just needed a friendly voice. I needed to talk to someone. And I think it demonstrates so powerfully that of all the people that this individual could have called they chose to call a friend at Insperity, which is really powerful and really speaks to the culture.

Roger Nicholson

executive
#14

Very much indicative of the caliber of our people.

Laura Wilbanks

executive
#15

And that's what we hear. It is -- it's what we hear from our clients all the time. It's fantastic.

A. Arizpe

executive
#16

All right. Let's move to our second question, and we're absolutely going to spend a lot of time on the Workday partnership, but I need to ask one more question before we go to that. And that is there's been recent changes. That's what I love about our company we are never satisfied. So if we could kind of go just around the table here and talk about some of the recent changes that have really improved our business. And Roger, I think we're going to start with you.

Roger Nicholson

executive
#17

Happy to start with me. Innovation is a fundamental driver of success, and that's actually one of our core values at Insperity. We are in perpetual motion, if you will, on trying to improve things, whether that's the product itself, our service, or a process or a system, we are forever working toward getting better every day. We actually have an acronym that we live by, BEST. It's Better Every Single Time. We are working very, very hard to make sure that we continue to improve. Along that continuous improvement continuum, we needed part of the organization to be devoted to that. It's the reason we started centers of excellence in service. We have half the organization that is -- more than half the organization constantly focused on the delivery and execution of the work that we do for our clients. And we have our centers of excellence that are working on the development and refinement of the systems and processes and tools that our people use to take care of our clients. I'd give you a couple of recent examples of change and our commitment to change and improvement, one being our deployment of Salesforce. This last year, we implemented Salesforce for the entire organization in August. It was over a 2-year span. And last August, we covered the rest of the organization. And what that did, it enabled us to bring a 360-degree view of this client relationship into Harmony with each of the various departmental inputs. And that's providing us some remarkable insights on what's going on in the client relationship where they have pressure points, where we have the opportunities to better provide service to them. Another recent change was the advent of our Workforce Acceleration option. For years, we had Workforce Optimization, which we all still believe today is the way to go, the furthest, the fastest with a single stroke of a pen to sit down and embark on a WO relationship. But for some reason, a client may not be ready to make that kind of investment or they may have a risk tolerance with which we're not particularly comfortable. We needed another option for them. So we built workforce acceleration around a wonderful technology platform they get the opportunity to experience elements of the HR care and concern that we provide for Workforce Optimization clients and they're in the Insperity ecosystem now. So our incredible business performance advisers and business performance consultants now have something else to talk about to meet that prospect where they are in the moment. And we, as service professionals have an opportunity to keep a client for life as those business needs change as dynamically as the market is today. So we are committed to change on a very progressive basis. And it's a wonderful place to be in the organization because no 2 days are the same.

A. Arizpe

executive
#18

The question relates to recent changes. So arguably, Laura. Everything that you've done has been a recent change. So why don't you speak to it.

Laura Wilbanks

executive
#19

It's been a lot of change. Yes. So, as I mentioned, I came into a situation that, as I said before, I felt so fortunate that there was this incredibly strong marketing foundation and had already been contributing to the success of the organization, but you did not hire me to maintain, right? So there has been a lot of change. And really, the change has been focused on ensuring that not only can marketing support the business of today, but we're meeting the changing market, and it is changing rapidly and buyers' behaviors are changing. So that's really been the focus. And although I had really strong skill sets in place already as I joined, I really wanted to make sure that we had the skill sets and the specialists that could really take us into the future. And so that's been a big focus. I've got a brand-new leadership team. They all have a number of years of experience. They're all specialists within their respective marketing center of excellence. So we did establish marketing centers of excellence as well. And we've made several external hires that really are able to augment that very talented team we already had in place. And so again, for me, it's the people, right? I mean really focusing on having the best people in the right roles. So that's definitely been a big focus. I want to go back, we talked about this incredibly differentiated, successful relationship marketing program. And so that area that we said, hey, it's really successful. So why don't we focus even more effort to make that even better. And so that has been a big focus. And that program is all about nurturing and building relationships on a much more intimate level than you can certainly do through other marketing programs like digital marketing. And so that's been a big focus. And frankly, what we've done there is, historically, relationship marketing, the various programs, again, just to -- as a reminder, that's everything from loyalty programs, it's local sponsorships, it's strategic alliances, it's our channel partners they've sat in different parts of the organization. And so what we did is we pulled those together because by pulling those together and looking at common best practices and having a very intentional approach we can actually really amplify that particular program. And frankly, our goal is to create these ecosystems where we're building a sense of community and trust. And so that's been a really big change. You mentioned sales force, right? And so every marketer today will talk about leveraging technology and data differently. And I cannot tell you how excited I was when I came into the organization and I found that we had already implemented sales force because I've been through a few of those. And so really enhancing our digital marketing capabilities and tactics leveraging the investment in sales force to derive insights. That's been a really big focus. Deploying automation capabilities to really streamline those processes. And then certainly, using data, we love data, the more data we can get we can really fine-tune our targeting, we can amplify our messaging. And the reason we do that at the end of the day, it is to provide the best customer experience, right, across the entire customer journey. So that's been a big one. I think the last change I'll talk about is really looking at our marketing mix. And so ensuring that we have got a really good balance between brand marketing initiatives and demand gen initiatives. We're leveraging national campaigns just like we've always done. But we've recently really moved to leveraging both the national, but also augmenting those with very regional specific and persona base campaigns because we can do that now because of the investments in sales force. We can get much more personalized. And so that is a best practice approach and what that does is that really enables us to maintain that strong brand awareness and consideration of but it also really enables us to produce more quality at bats for our sales teams. So I know that's important.

A. Arizpe

executive
#20

You have definitely upped our game in the market. Thank you for your contribution. Keith, what's going on in the sales world that's different than making us better.

Keith Simmons

executive
#21

Well, this is where my excitement level is going to start to meter up. I think it's why I am sitting next to you, you can keep me in the line here. So there's a couple of different things that I'm excited about. And Laura mentioned a part one of them, which is our account-based experience that we're rolling out right now. And the other one is our private capital markets approach that we've refined. So just talk a little bit about the account-based experience. Now this is absolutely in partnership with Laura and all of her team. This is where we get all the insights in the data, utilizing sales force. We're rolling it out, we're signing out accounts. And those accounts are going through internal marketing cadences. So our sales folks, the BPAs, BPCs, they know exactly the right and the right time and the right message to go after the right type of prospect. And when you have -- I've already talked about how great the business performance advisers are in my eyes, you are on with that type of message and timing it's already starting to show success. The last couple of days, as we've rolled this out, the success stories that are flying around the entire organization on account of awesome this thing is where in the excitement level from the entire sales force. It is something that everybody is all in on and it is already starting to show. And then the private capital markets. Now we had a lot of success in private capital markets, both private equity and the venture capital segments. But we've done it a lot of it through going up through our portfolio companies route network businesses, and we're having a lot of success there. And sometimes we're able to move up into the private equity firm, develop those relationships. Well, now we're doing it on purpose. Now we are going after, and we were like, all right, we know the right type of messaging. We can put a wrapper around the service side of it and the sales side to make sure the messaging is right, and then understand the dynamics of how to onboard appropriately because there's a lot of tiny factors that go in with transactions. And that it is -- both of these are exciting new changes, and they're already starting to show big results. Just 1 quick little story. We are out at deal act in Vegas a couple of weeks ago. And we got to introduce by 2 separate firms into one -- another private equity firm. And that firm said, if you're getting introduced by 2 separate people I don't have to feel talk to anybody else because this is clearly the way to go. So it's awesome.

A. Arizpe

executive
#22

Yes. This reminds me a little bit about 10 years ago, you're moving into mid-market, absolutely having a focus on growing that segment of the business. We learned that our clients grew into mid-market size and then we got aggressive at finding those. All right. Let's move on to the Workday partnership, which has been a focus of this morning and as it absolutely should be. And so how do we anticipate we've heard the word catalyst? How do we see this as an accelerator to our business. We've just heard from all of you the recent changes that we've made now a very significant one, not only for us, but also for Workday. This is a true partnership. So Roger, why don't you talk a little bit about how you see this benefiting us.

Roger Nicholson

executive
#23

Well, first and foremost, I want you to know how excited the 1,700 professionals are in our service organization about this. We have the opportunity to take the lid off the situation that we've experienced with our clients over the years. We've had what we call and you may have heard this expression this morning a success penalty over time. We built a relationship with a client. We become a part of their team. We are part of their success equation, and they grow. And we've seen clients grow north of 7,000 employees and they reach this point where they perceive, whether it's real or imagined in many ways, we think it's real on the technology front that, gosh, we're a really big company now, and we need to do something else something because we have more complicated needs today. And certainly, on the flexibility and the scalability front, we can see where they're coming from. So for our service teams who become so embedded in these relationships deeply over time. it's like a heartbreak, it's a breakup of sorts. When you lose the client because we didn't have the next thing that they needed to grow and evolve. And so Workday presents us that opportunity. to remove the glass ceiling, if you will, on our relationship and allow our clients to continue to grow with the benefit of Workday's world-class technology and the HR services team that they've come to rely on so heavily over the years of their success. And so that historical success, being able to keep that in place, those relationships in place, incredibly important to our clients. I would tell you, over the long haul that we expect this improves our retention equation dramatically because a client will be afforded the opportunity to make the decision that's right for them. No longer will they hit that crossroads decision where they have to do one or the other. They can do both in concert with one or another. And so we're thrilled that we're going to have the opportunity to keep going with relationships that we treasure so much. And the work that we're doing right now is going to set the stage for that. We're building our deployment and enablement teams today. As we speak, our teams are working on this and their experience they're bringing to the equation to have conversations with our friends at Workday. so that the configuration and architecture is in place that does the kinds of things that we're going to want to be able to continue to provide for our clients while taking advantage of Workday is a very sophisticated platform. We couldn't be more excited.

A. Arizpe

executive
#24

This is a key factor to our growth, the retention side of our growth, which we are held responsible to. Very, very exciting. Laura, what are your comments about the Workday?

Laura Wilbanks

executive
#25

Yes, no, I love this, right? I mean you've heard that the co-marketing, the co-branding, the co-selling and marketing fits in each of those pieces. And so from a marketing perspective, we see the potential for the Workday partnership to really accelerate in a couple of ways. And I think what's really important to remember is that this has already started. We're not waiting for the joint solution. These benefits are starting -- have started, not just starting now, they have started. And we see the opportunity in two areas. The first is through lead sharing, where Workday provides us with needs that don't meet their target profile. And so that strengthens our sales funnel. So that's one. The second one we've talked a lot about today is around the brand and the opportunity to realize the synergy of these two very strong brands in the marketplace. So I'll start with lead sharing. Since the announcement, there's been a tremendous amount of work that's already gone in to recognize and realize the benefits of the lead sharing. And what that's all about is part of the agreement Workday has -- will be providing, has provided leads that don't fit their ideal client profile. And so -- and that strengthens again, our sales funnel. We have already received historical leads. We've pulled those leads in. We've integrated those into our proven go-to-market approaches. So that has already happened. We've also just recently, as you know, we've started to receive those leads on a going forward basis. And I think what's really important there is that these are leads that have already been warmed up by Workday. I think that's a really -- these are not cold leads that they're just surprising and giving to Insperity. If a prospect again, does not meet their ideal client profile, they will introduce Insperity. And that prospect has the ability to click on a link that comes into a landing page that is co-branded between the 2 companies. And so there's already that nice warm introduction between the 2 companies. And frankly, the results that we've seen, they're promising. So I mentioned the historical leads and with their historical leads about 60% of those which is a big deal. 60% of those were net new for Insperity. And of the 60% we were able to score against our own ideal client profile Score about 50% of those. And the reason that's important is that really enables us to focus on those leads where we believe that we have the greatest chance for success. And so very excited about the prospects. And brand, I think we've talked a lot about today. That's the second area we're very excited about. And I thought the video just did such a tremendous job talking not just about the combined value of the brands, but to me, the video really talked about how similar the brands are positioned in the marketplace, right? Both of us are known for trust, reliability, quality, commitment to the market and to our clients. And so as we think about pulling those brands together, really providing our customers access to the combined synergy of what those brands represent both before the solution is launched, but then certainly afterwards. So those are two areas that we really believe we're going to have some nice potential.

A. Arizpe

executive
#26

Keith, what are your thoughts?

Keith Simmons

executive
#27

Well, this is the wheelhouse being over the mid-market space. This is obviously very exciting. We had -- as mentioned earlier, the work site employee makes over the last 10 years has shifted from 19% to 26%, we're already having a lot of success. And our business performance consultants who are some of the most tenured and most successful salespeople at Insperity, well, now they have a whole another option there. There they are so pumped up and their knowledge runs deep in the organization. They've been here a long time. They know the company, and they pull these resources. Roger's team is on calls with -- we haven't closed the deal without service in so long I can't even remember. And we know when to pull people away and they are doing a great job. And -- so now all we're doing for them is keeping that same level of service in bringing in a world-class technology that is built and designed specifically for our target market in the middle market enterprise space. Yes, we're pretty excited. And all of that allows us to keep the plug and play value proposition that we currently have right now and I suspect that even our sales efficiency is going to improve because of that. The nice thing about it, a lot of times, when you roll out the initiatives, you're hoping like, okay, 1 day, we're going to be able to realize the value of this? Well, we're realizing the value of this like right this minute. As a matter of fact, we had a prospect that we've been working with. Just so happened that they came into corporate to meet with us the day after the announcement. And -- well, we are in the very final stages of getting a large prospect done. And they've cited when we walk them through that day, the announcement, they're like, well, this is -- this takes away a lot of our question. It's the right service model. Now we know when we get there, it's going to be the right technology, and we want to come on. And now we know we have a place to stay for the long term. That's pretty powerful stuff. And so Laura attend the co-branding and the co-selling and -- or the co-marketing. We have co-selling as well. And there's a couple of different councils that were pulling together that are both comprised of folks from Workday and from Insperity senior sales leadership. And the first one is a co-selling council. And what this does is this is where we're working on the strategy and the messaging and the compensation because we have to make sure those things are right to make -- to have the right actions and activities happening out in the field. And then the other one is an opportunity review council. As the joint solution starts coming together and getting closer, we're going to review opportunities together because both companies see this as a customer-centric value proposition, right? And we want to make sure that we're putting them in the right spot. It's either Insperity -- with premier Insperity with Workday or Workday alone. Everything is focused on doing the right for the prospect.

Unknown Executive

executive
#28

What's best for them.

Keith Simmons

executive
#29

Yes. that's the name of the game.

A. Arizpe

executive
#30

So obviously, you have a great level of excitement about this. How has this -- we're coming to the end of our time. I've got a quick question to wrap this up. How has the dialogue changed with your team? And obviously, the BPC is very excited about this target market. And -- but how is the conversation also changed?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#31

Yes. I'm the [indiscernible] of the group. The are very, very excited and we had the team in last week for one of our semiannual retreats. And the conversations are changing dramatically. And once again, it's happening right now. And as we're going through this, we had a prospect that we're meeting with that they had a failed implementation with another HCM solution out there. Their Board member happened to be a client of ours and said, Insperity and Workday just announced a strategic partnership and before you all talk to anybody else, their service is outstanding. We need to learn more about this. So they reached out and we are talking with them specifically because of that. Those -- that's a massive change in the conversation. So what we've done is taken some of the best salespeople at Insperity. And while we're excited about all the things that we're bringing to the table, they are probably most excited about something that's been taken away. The #1 objection that we deal with on a daily basis which is we are too big for a PEO. You absolutely aren't too big for a PEO now, and you certainly aren't going to be too big for a PEO with the Insperity Workday solution.

A. Arizpe

executive
#32

Roger, you're leading the service organization soon after the announcement, we began to roll this out to our largest customers, what's been the client feedback that you've heard?

Roger Nicholson

executive
#33

Steve, it's been incredible. We've had the chance to talk to all of our large customers and hundreds more and the excitement has been palpable. It really has been remarkable. Their excitement about where we're headed and again, taking that perceived barrier away for the long haul as they grow, they're going to have the opportunity to continue to grow with us. We have clients that have asked to be part of the beta test as soon as we're ready to go. And that's indicative of the trust they extend to us that they're willing to put themselves out there, invest in the beta process so that they can be on the front end of what this solution is going to be able to provide. And we've already got clients that have a asked to extend their relationship with us based on the promise, what they've seen us produce in the past and what they know this new union together between this partnership, between Workday and Insperity is going to provide them just a remarkable capability. So the excitement a bounce in our client base I guess it's the best way that I would wrap it up.

A. Arizpe

executive
#34

Laura, you've got the hardest question because we can all sense the excitement across the board. What are you most I'm going to make you limited to one, what are you most excited about?

Laura Wilbanks

executive
#35

Sure. Well, I mean -- so marketing at the end of the day, we're storytellers. And so think of this incredible story that we get to tell, right? And Workday and Insperity, we both have been going after this mid-market. We've had success. We're introducing new capabilities, joint sales opportunities, powerful brands and marketing efforts. And so what an awesome story from marketing to get to tell and so that's what we're most excited about.

A. Arizpe

executive
#36

So the 3 of you lead 3,400 of our 4,400 employee organizations. So we are all excited that you're excited because that will filter through our entire organization and our audience today certainly has sensed that in every presentation. And I want to thank the panelists for being with me and sharing your vision and your excitement about this. And I hope that is transferred to our audience here. So we want to wrap up the panel discussion. I'm going to dismiss you guys. You have stuff to do. I know -- and then I'd like to invite Paul and Doug and Jim to join me here for our question and answer session.

Laura Wilbanks

executive
#37

Wonderful. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Roger Nicholson

executive
#38

Thank you, Steve. Wonderful.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#39

All right. Well, Steve, that was an excellent session and it was great to hear from some of our others on our management team and to see how things are moving down through the organization. And at this point, we're going to do our Q&A. And of course, you have up here myself, Doug, Jim and Steve, and we're happy to answer any questions that you may have. You're able to go ahead if you are an institutional investor, we want to question in, there's a place on your site to do that. Now in addition, we're going to start with questions from our analysts. And so we're going to let each of them have a little bit of a question period, and we'll try to address their questions. And after that, we'll take questions from institutional investors provided we have time to do so. So first, we're going to go ahead and start out with Tobey Sommer from Truist. So Tobey, if you're out there, we're ready to take questions from you.

Tobey Sommer

analyst
#40

I wanted to ask a question about the margins perhaps on a unit-based or on a company income statement basis, margins to improvement, the brokers converted to you.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#41

So I understand your question, but you kind of cut out on us a little bit, but I think you asked about potential margins relative to this new relationship and our new pricing. So really, from our perspective, that really relates, of course, to how you can move gross profit up and what kind of EBITDA per worksite employee is kind of how we look at things. Jim, that's pretty much in your world. Do you want to comment on that?

Jim Allison

executive
#42

Yes. I would say it's very early on in the process, right? I mean we have early indications that people have a willingness to pay pretty significantly higher prices. But the thing that I would say is market research and when somebody actually takes the time to write a check, become a customer, those thought processes can maybe differ a little bit. So I don't want to get overly excited about that. But I will say that if we didn't think that it was a good margin opportunity, we wouldn't be doing it.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#43

Yes. It definitely was certainly part of the analysis and it matches up. We're very pleased with the early indications of how all that fits together. Tobey, go ahead.

Tobey Sommer

analyst
#44

In terms of your worksite employee growth, volume growth, how do you expect that to change over time as a result of the new partnership?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#45

Yes. So again, this relationship is focused on the 2 companies working together to go after this target market. And so even right now, we are beginning to do things that work together toward taking the current products we have to the market together and then ultimately, having the new solution that we believe is the hand in glove fit. So there's no question that this translates to us. And really, it's interesting because Workday thinks in terms of number of employees on their system, the per employee per year, if you will, in their world, we think in terms of per employee per month. So your question about worksite employee growth is right in the heart of this. That's what this driver is. Now Steve, you've got the sales organization and this is about sales efficiency gain, driving future worksite employee growth. So kind of what's your assessment of that.

A. Arizpe

executive
#46

I'd say it's really twofold, certainly, from a sales and marketing perspective, lead flow is everything. What do we want our salespeople to do? We want them to go tell our story to as many people as we can. And secondly, what we're identifying is these are warm leads folks reaching out for an HR solution. That is very different than a cold call that a BPA might make. So the quality of the lead and the starting point is much better, which should translate into higher close rates. But secondly, the second growth factor, the retention side. We are already hearing and Roger didn't quite mention this, but I did hear a story of when we made the announcement of the partnership, we had a client that was ready to begin a complete process of looking at their HCM solution, whether it's Workday or UKG or pick your partner. And they have immediately stopped that, and they're anxious to see how this is going to work. So we're already affecting retention, a key driver to our growth.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#47

That's significant. And of course, we're after this for the long-term view of continuing double-digit growth and being able to even do that more reliant on just our efforts as opposed to some things going on in the marketplace, et cetera. So at this point, I think it's time to move on to I'll give Tobey one more question. Should we do that, Tobey, have 1 more for us.

Tobey Sommer

analyst
#48

With respect to your investments over the period. You've given us a number for this year. You have visibility to the cadence of that investment [for time and space]?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#49

So yes, Doug, this is probably in your wheelhouse. So why don't you address that?

Douglas Sharp

executive
#50

Yes. I mean, I think going back to some earlier comments that we had, we talked about the incremental investment of about $150 million over the 5 years. It's a rough estimate. We're still fairly early on in the stages of development, and I think that probably will be refined over time. But we did make the comment that in this -- in 2024, in our budget and in our guidance, both the incremental and some redeployed resources going into this initiative was to the tune of $60 million or so. So $60 million of -- somewhat related to that $150 million. We also talked about the fact that the first 2 years would be where the concentration of the investment would take place. And I think it's just you would expect that because that's where most of the development is taking place, particularly on the client sentiment side of things and even the corporate instance, which is a smaller piece, but that's going to be front-end loaded thereafter for years, 3, 4 and 5, it will be just some ongoing development costs associated with primarily the client tenants. So that's how we've -- that's how we frame work, the amount of -- the timing of the investment itself. I think another thing to point out is because it's a new solution for us. It's a little bit of a different accounting treatment, where we've had the old PEO system, and we've added products and features to it. You're able to capitalize that investment, amortize it over a period of time. This is a new solution that has a different treatment. So everything is being flushed through the P&L just about on the investment. And that's why you're seeing the impact on the P&L this year, and you would expect to see some impact again next year.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#51

And now we're going to move on to Jeff Martin at ROTH Capital.

Jeff Martin

analyst
#52

My first question is, do you have any sense of timing in terms of launch of the joint solution? It seems like we're probably looking at sometime in late '25 or M-'26. Is that the right way to think about it?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#53

So that's a good way to think about it. It's not time for us to pin down that launch time because we are in the process of detailing out all the components that lead to that. And there's -- the time frame will become more and more apparent soon. We have the foundational site will be going up fairly soon this summer and then a lot of validation work goes on through that and that will help us pin down timing. But I want to make sure we all realize that the launch -- we're not a technology company. And the launch date is not even the most significant date in this relationship. It's already going. It's already started. We're joint -- companies working together to go after a target market with the solutions we have today. And as soon as possible, we want to take that solution as well. But the benefits from this relationship have started and will be continuing to ramp up. And when that exact launch date happens, we aren't ready to pin that down yet, but there's a ramping up of activities and even presales are potentialities. There's other things that we'll be doing together relative to revenue streams, et cetera. So that launch date is important. We're focused on it as a new product launch. So we want that to be as soon as we can do it really well, but we're not really pinned that down yet.

Jeff Martin

analyst
#54

Great. And then second question is in regards to the PEO industry in general, it's 80% penetrated today. It seems like cracking the code for the mid-market could at least for disparity, make your addressable market significantly larger. Curious if you could comment on that. And then relative to that as well, second part of the question is, how might your HR services offering evolve over time as a result of this partnership? Are there tools that you envision that could further reduce the risk of the success penalty in the market?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#55

Yes, absolutely. Thank you for the question. I'll let Steve answer a little bit about that how it affects our success penalty. But I just want to say that, when I look at our service organization, the amazing job that they do today, serving our mid-market customers in this target market, that is seriously expanded through this relationship. And they do an incredible job, but it's muscling through it. And once the technology improvements are enhanced and delivered in the new solution, how do you see their life changing and our ability to really deliver even more impact to these clients.

A. Arizpe

executive
#56

Well, there's no question that in 38 years, what we deliver today is much different than it once was. And maybe we owe the credit to our government with new legislation and compliance and all of that, that's kind of good news for a compliance company. But where I really see the benefit, Jeff, is more in our efficiency because the technologies that are being implemented, Salesforce, we did that 2 years ago for our growth part of the organization, rolled that out to the service organization and the rest of the company. So today, on one CRM platform for the first time in our history. And now with the Workday solution, there are going to be things that our service professionals are not going to have to muscle through to use your term, Paul. And I think this is going to raise this whole level of efficiency and capacity model for our people. So I think there's an element of better service and an element of reduced cost potentially with not having to hire as fast for HR support and those types of things. So I think there's just true business impact through this.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#57

That's really true. And to me, I get excited about the consultative services that we're able to provide into this space. And the insights and with AI and all the things that we're doing in that area, I just think we're going to become a bigger and bigger important piece to the puzzle for clients in this space. So very excited about that. Jeff, next question?

Jeff Martin

analyst
#58

Okay. Last question for me is you talked about customer feedback, it would be real value add, if you have 6-month implementation time. Just curious how realistic that is and did you foresee that kind of being a standard implementation period once this joint offering, go-to-market and implementation strategies we find?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#59

Yes, absolutely. That's a great question. And keep in mind that the way we implement large clients onto our platform today is a 2- to 3-month time period. Part of what was recognized in the process as we were discussing with Workday is how we go about that. And it's really kind of -- if you apply this to the new solution, it has to do with the pre-configuring and the actual process that you work through with the client to give them clear choices rather than working from a blank slate, which is how it normally works when you're going to put in a new significant technology solution like this. That's not how it's going to be working with our customers because we already know how things work in that size account. So all this work that we're doing with our deployment and enablement team, we're mirroring how we go about it today, how will we work through with each client. Is it 6 months? I hope it's way shorter than that. That's my optimism here, but I know what we can do and how we can do it. But we believe we're going to do that in -- I mean that's part of how we're organized and building out this whole technology along with the pre-configuration and the selections that our enablement team will make.

Douglas Sharp

executive
#60

Yes. One last comment on that, Paul. The pre-configuration is absolutely a key to cutting the time of implementation. But we have a history of success of onboarding and the expertise that exists in our company now. I recognize that this is a new -- will be a new product for us. But we know how to go about this, and that's what we're going to be leveraging as we go forward.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#61

Yes. And one other thing to add to that because just the time to deploy or to implement is only one part of the puzzle. What has become more apparent to us in this last 90 days or a little over that we've been working on this is how much we're going to be able to add to the time to value, the time to actually getting the value out of this. It's amazing how the types of implementations. It's a real effort just to get to deployment, but then there's usually quite a bit of time before you're really getting some real solid value out of it. And we believe we're going to really shorten the time frame on both of those. All right. At this point, we'd like to invite Mark Marcon from Robert Baird. Mark?

Mark Marcon

analyst
#62

Really appreciate it. I understand that it's still really early in the timing of relationship. But obviously, you did mention late '25, early '26 in terms of tentative time period. When you do launch, can you talk a little bit about like how visible the co-branding is going to be? Because I do think if it does help to elevate, but you really have a only trusted brand, but it is perceived to be more appropriate for smaller clients. So how visible is the branding going to be? What's the creative media digital strategy going to be? How prominent will it be? And will you be funding all of that or will Workday contribute to that as well?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#63

Very good question. And first of all, let me just state it wasn't me who put those dates out that was Tobey, and I'm open, we'll be ahead of that time frame. But hey, that's -- it's not time to announce that. But like I said, the launch date is not as significant as the whole rollout that's happening already and will continue to ramp up, including what you're describing, which has to do with the whole marketing effort. And I can tell you there's a commitment in this agreement for co-branding, especially on this new solution. So we intend to optimize the value of both brands in this effort. Now I don't have specifics for you yet because that is a part of an effort of that team working together in the right time frame to produce exactly what that rollout scenario will be. But I expect it to be front and center. We're already both excited about the effect of the 2 brands working together. Workday's brand is so powerful on the technology front. The reality is they really don't want to see themselves as a service company. They use other companies even to do the implementations, and they're so excited about having our service brand attached to theirs because that's what this target market needs. They need software with the service, not software as a service. They need software with their service. So Yes, that's -- I think you're going to see that brand will be front and center.

Mark Marcon

analyst
#64

That's great. And then can you talk a little bit more about how you're thinking -- again, all right because it's early, lots of things need to be worked out. But just in terms of the pricing and then also you -- had you would approach your existing clients in that 250 or 2,500 range that already have the service. Would you try to upsell those clients proactively? Or would you wait until there's some discussions with regards to whether or not they're feeling 100% satisfied. We're starting to feel like they're outgrowing service. How are you going to approach that?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#65

Yes. Let me handle the second half of that and I'll let Jim handle kind of how -- what we're thinking about on that pricing front, that it's so exciting with all the information we've already received. But when we look at our current base, we definitely have had many, many conversations and the enthusiasm is really not just internal, it's across our client base, and we'll be continuing to grow as we have these direct conversations. But I think what you're going to see happen and what I see happening, and maybe you will comment on this part, Steve, but when we have issues with clients that are 250-up and they say we need to be doing this, and they're not getting that out of the technology, maybe we got to do a special report. We've got to find another way to provide information. We don't have any other answer than muscling through it, but now we'll have a different answer. We'll say, hey, wow, is that what you need? Well, you're kind of in a role -- you're kind of at a stage where this solution may be the better one for you that. Is that how you see...

A. Arizpe

executive
#66

That's exactly how I see it. I think there is a tremendous level of excitement and that's demonstrated by this. When we rolled this announcement out and we went personal -- made personal phone calls to our largest customers, and those that were growing -- that were headed towards our largest customer. Knowing that we're going to have this new release and solution, we need beta. And the confidence level that our clients, we've had several raised their hands as they said, we want to be part of that beta. That is a real commitment to the relationship. It's an understanding of how powerful this relationship already is and they see the future. So I think that just communicates volumes to where we're headed here.

Jim Allison

executive
#67

Yes. And I'll add on to that for just a second. I mean I think it's my current expectation that there will be A size level determined in the future, where we basically say the new solution is the best solution for you because of the size. And there's going to be a smaller end of the mid-market as we define it today, that's likely to have a choice between the 2 models. And that would be existing customers as well as new sales. At least that's my current expectation. From a pricing perspective, again, we're really excited about kind of the indications, the early indications that we've gotten about pricing. I think there are many questions left to answer. And some of those questions have to do with packaging. It has to do with how much gets put into the base bundle, if you will, of the PEO solution? And what kinds of things might be kept outside of that bundle and included as a separate add-on piece. We will do more research about that as we get closer to launch, and we'll make an appropriate decision much like we have with our existing solution today. We expect that a lot of it's going to be in the base solution. We're getting good indications that people are willing to pay relatively significantly higher prices for that. And I think if you tried to just try to think about -- there's a fee that we charge today. And then there's a fee that Workday charges today in the open market. Both of those fees go down to a degree on a per employee per month basis as customers get larger. And so that certainly is going to impact a mix component of this, depending on how successful we are at what sizes. The second thing that I would say is, if you're thinking about the range of possibilities, the question ultimately is, are we somewhere in between the level of the 2 added together? Are we very close to the level of the 2 added together? Or do we find we're in a situation where when you put the 2 together, that 1 plus 1 may equal a little bit more than 2. That's to be determined. But I also -- I would expect that as we go out with this as a launch, we know that we're going to start in a place and then adjust accordingly as we see the success.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#68

I can give you one example because literally, the day we announced this back in February, one of my first call to a large account of ours that's in the 2,500 employee range. We happen to have a meeting set for dinner that following Monday night. So I called and said, hey, I don't know if you're going to be in that dinner, but if you -- I'll come up to talk about this, if you -- he said, I wasn't going to be, but now I am going to be in that dinner. So we ended up meeting -- we had a great meeting. In fact, what I didn't know was this company had just spent the last year evaluating potential options. And what really was impressive to me was that they commented that, that it was a real struggle decision. They decided not to do it yet because they felt like the investment was so large, the length of time for it to go into effect was going to be a considered length of time. But here's the other piece that was interesting. They said we had helped so much in their business to grow to this level. They felt like they wouldn't be able to afford and both and they would have to let us go to do the other. And once we start talking through this, it was also interesting to say, "Wow, this is great. We get to keep both. And, hey, we know it's going to cost more. And we know it's got a lot of upfront cost". Here, they were telling me that they understood already from what they just went through, that there's going to be additional costs and so on. But if there's any way that it's in the reasonable range to have both that's what they want. So this is -- that was a great little conversation to have, but we've got a lot of work to do to get to the details here, and we'll get that working, right? Mark, do you have 1 more question for us.

Mark Marcon

analyst
#69

It's Mark. I don't know if you can hear me well, but your audio on your end at least on volume is breaking up, and I heard the same thing from [ one user ] at different office. So I'm not sure if anybody else is having that problem. If you can hear me, I have one last question, which is what's the ongoing expense that you would expect? And would you anticipate cross-selling on some of Workday's other solutions outside of their HCM modules? And could you get some sort of skips or incentives or market instrument from that?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#70

Yes, that's a good question. They're certainly within our agreement is the co-selling arrangement. And in there involves incenting both teams, ours and theirs for referring clients across and helping to get to a sale in both organizations. So that also takes some time to develop and to get it right. And so we're in that process. But yes, that's part of it. And there's -- obviously, the financial software that Workday has is powerful, and they think it's even more powerful down market. That's not front and center right now because we've got to get this solution out first, but that's out there. They also even have things like the tool, what's that tool they use upfront for? Yes, adaptive training tool which they also move down market. We think that's a very good fit for many of our customers as well. But these are things you're exploring along the way and will be part of the picture going forward. All right. At this point, I'd like to move over to Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Andrew, go right ahead.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#71

I'm going to single vote to Mark, and I think other colleagues that having hard time hearing you so some of my questions, I apologize if they've been answered, we'll go to the direct report for that. But the first one that I wanted to ask was just around on the addressable market. I thought a slide that you put up with the deliver of the market that the joint solution is targeting was super helpful. I just wanted to ask a little bit more about that kind of 18% to 13% to that 31% in the 100 to 2,500 or maybe it's 100 to 5,000 range. What do you think the market share of BDOs in that market is today? And maybe what are time in that currently doing on the test and benefit side? Is BDO expectation you will be benefiting from customers kind of success penalties at competitor PEOs? Are they customers that already have kind of point solutions and are done trying to do it themselves and how that kind of prospect looks relative to your traditional prospects in kind of the 20 employee starting point range?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#72

Thank you, Andrew. That target market that we're talking about more than 100 up to 5,000 and even more narrow if you want to talk over the thousands, for example. It is a highly fragmented market that has a variety of ways things are getting done and no very good way that things are getting done. And in fact, it's really evident to us that it's both a technology and service need, desperate need. So in other words, both the size and sophistication of the current HR function in those businesses, the size and sophistication of the current technology personnel in those businesses. And obviously, the processes that they have going on in the technology that they're using is a lot of times a mixed bag. So what we are convinced of today is this is going to be a hand in glove fit. We know these needs very well and we know that this solution is literally going to be a hand in glove fit. Now in that target market slide that I had up there, you saw that I kind of put it across the top there because it is an elevated solution for us. It's built on our compliance system. So it's got everything we do for our customers to make sure they know that things are happening right and are happening effectively, but the client-facing technology is that Workday solution, and it's going to be our highest priced product. So I put it across the top there. And -- but yes, I believe that there's -- how much of the PEO business is in that space right now, is not very much. It's a much smaller percentage than the 8%. It's not even with the smaller end of the market. So it's a huge market opportunity for us.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#73

Great. And then for my follow-up. Laura talked about the lead further more, it was to grow for the year that I think 60% of historical leads are net new or 60% of them -- of that 60%, half of them feels like they're attractive aspects and kind of fall in your window. I'm just kind of curious, is there any way to quantify the volume in terms of the number and maybe how that compares to what your traditional outreach marketing efforts have brought in, just trying to understand if it's a multiple of the normal need, what kind of needle mover that could be?

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#74

Yes, absolutely. This -- the work that we've done so far is to frame the opportunity and get ready to turn the faucet on. The best analogy I have is if you have this new source of flow like that. If you just turn the faucet, it just pours out all over the place. You have to figure out exactly where you want this to flow, what you want it to do. So it's almost like we're in that process now of detailing out all the elements of taking every lead that comes through and how is it processed based on where it's -- what the analysis is of each case and how it goes about, because remember, we're going to be getting leads of all different sizes, different industries, et cetera. So there's a lot of planning to do this right. And we will be turning that faucet on, and it's going to be significant. I'm not ready to quantify it yet. I know that, as I mentioned, I believe, in a previous earnings release, just looking at this one particular source, the number of leads were like double what we produce every year, but there is also the whole co-selling element as our BPAs get connected with their salespeople that are in this space. There's referrals going back and forth. They go through a process to evaluate their potential prospect and if it doesn't fit, boom, it's going to come to us. Same thing we're doing now. We have a prospect that we're calling on, they're at a size where they're looking for their own Workday solution. We're going to be handing it off to them. So there's a lot of different sources even that we are still working on the analysis of how that works. I just know that when you've got these 2 companies doing what we do, going to market together, going after this target with all the different products we both provide that's going to cause a lot of sales activity.

Andrew Nicholas

analyst
#75

Great. And then if I could do 1 more question, if that's okay. Just maybe stepping away from the Workday partnership on BPA and BPA growth. It's obviously been a major driver, technically, growth over the past 10 years. I think on Doug's slide, we cited a 9% CAGR in both metrics. So I was hoping you could speak to maybe the recruiting process, how you bring in salespeople and your ability to keep up with that level of growth as they get bigger. And I know part of your earlier presentations, conversation or discussion about maybe increased tenure amongst your sales force relative to some of your peers, how the sales force looks relative to the primary competitors? Any additional insight on kind of how you think your sales force stacks up and where you're differentiated would be helpful.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#76

Absolutely. And of course, as I mentioned in my initial presentation, we have a system for bringing on the right folks, training them, managing their activities, helping them supporting them. That's been very effective. But maybe more specifically, Steve, you can comment about how we look at it going forward. And even number of BPAs versus BPCs or how you see things moving forward?

A. Arizpe

executive
#77

Yes. So Andrew, if anybody should be good accruing, it should be an HR company is what I'd start with, and we are very good at that. We've got an amazing team of recruiters specific to the sales position. But what we've learned over these -- over recent history is we needed another avenue to attract the best talent. We're certainly doing that, but then we needed to grow talent. So we created a new role, it's called an associate BPA. These are folks with sales degrees, maybe a couple of years of sales experience, and they go through an intensive training program, and we grow them up to sell and communicate our solution the way we want it -- communicate it. And that has proved to be very valuable as we grow our BPAs. So this is all about sales efficiency. You increase leads, you get success early for them. It reduces turnover. Those are all factors in sales efficiency. So that's -- there's not a day that goes by that we're not thinking about every one of those items.

Paul Sarvadi

executive
#78

Definitely makes us excited about the future. So at this point, again, thank you, Andrew, for your questions. We're at a stage at this point where we're running out of time. And so we're just going to take another minute here just to finish this off for today. I want to thank every one of you who are on with us today for your participation and for your interest. And I'm hopeful that you've caught not only the information we've provided, but the level of enthusiasm about our future because what we are doing is we have a new powerful catalyst that is on top of our very successful business and financial model. So it's an ideal opportunity for time of investment, and we're anxious and excited to have you along with us by our side. I'd like to close with one last little quick story. As we were getting near the end of our process to bring this to fruition. I came in one day and in our meeting, we had this mug right here, and you can see it has Insperity's name at the top and this is the first co-branding that took place, had the Workday brand underneath it. And I took one look at it. Now does say made for what matters on the back. But when I first looked at this, I thought, wait a second, who did that? Who made this? And because my presumption was I bet Workday did this because I said we wouldn't have put our name at the top. We would put their name at the top. That's just culturally, that's what we would have done. And it was confirmed to me that, that's what happened. They had produced this. Now once we got this thing going on board, we decided we had to do a Texas size version of this, and you noticed Workday at the top and Insperity at the bottom. So it kind of gives you a feel for how the cultures match, how the cultures work together. And I believe it's a solid, sound foundation for our future. So once again, thank you for being with us, and we look forward, we will review all these questions. We'll make sure to get these types of answers out for all of you. Thank you, again.

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