Integra LifeSciences Holdings Corporation (IART) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 6, 2024

NASDAQ US Health Care Health Care Equipment and Supplies conference_presentation 36 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#1

Welcome, everyone, to another session here today at the Morgan Stanley Healthcare Conference. I'm Drew Ranieri, one of the Medical Technology Analyst here. It's my pleasure to host this session with Integra delighted as CFO, Lea Knight with us today. Before we jump into it, just a quick disclaimer. If you want to read them, go to the website or ask your sales rep. Now we'll move on to bigger and exciting things.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#2

So Lea, thanks for joining us today. But maybe to take a few steps back. I mean last year, we were discussing kind of the ongoing tissue technology recall and the pathway forward. And maybe the best place to start today is maybe helping us better understand the quality compliance master plan that you're laying out and some of the newer headwinds that have popped up? And maybe just talk to us about maybe how Integra got in this position and help us with the road map to get this behind the company?

Lea Knight

executive
#3

We'll do. Thank you, Drew. I appreciate the opportunity to be here with you today. So in terms of how we got here, as we reflected on our Boston and what we learned coming out of our Boston remediation. It forced us to reevaluate our quality system across the entirety of our manufacturing and supply network. More specifically, it taught us we needed to be more effective in standardizing our quality system. And so as we rolled out the compliance master plan, that is our systemic holistic approach to being able to address our quality system and GMP compliance. As a management team, we are focused at both the management team level as well as the Board level, including the creation of a quality committee that is now an official part of the Board of Directors. We've increased investments from a talent perspective, a quality culture perspective, we're investing in our manufacturing facilities, and we're investing to drive quality, to drive supply resilience and to increase capacity, so that we're not only fixing supply for today, but we're better positioned to meet the longer-term needs of the growth on this business. But we know this is not going to be a quick journey. A quick fix. It will, in fact, be a journey but we're committed to do the right thing for our customers, for our patients, for our employees as well as our shareholders.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#4

And with the compliance master plan specifically, it's still fairly early on in that process and getting a resolution here. But is there anything that you can talk to us about today that you're seeing so far in the third quarter that's giving you confidence that time lines, progress is being made. I know you can't share quantitative details. But just maybe help us better appreciate maybe what you're seeing that we may not be able to see on our side?

Lea Knight

executive
#5

Yes, certainly. So we spent time. Again, we announced the Compliance master plan as part of our Q2 call. we mentioned that it was likely an 18-month journey as part of that and that it would be informed by the work we're doing on an internal audit basis to understand what observations are out there that need to be addressed, but also informed by the observations that we get from our normal external regulatory reviews. We've taken that, as part of that is the temporary shipping hold that we announced on our Q2 call. And the remediation effort for that really is addressing on a product by product and by country basis, meeting the compliance gaps that we talked about and releasing the products as soon as possible as those compliance gaps are addressed. And we've been doing exactly that. And during the Q2 call, we mentioned that the effort underway to address that part of the compliance master plan would primarily be addressed in Q3 but that it would extend into Q4 to a lesser degree. And as I mentioned, we see that playing out. As you can imagine, there is no greater focus of our teams in this moment than getting our products back into the hands of our customers. And so we'll continue along that path to address the temporary shipping holds, but also that is the word -- we've also brought on consultants to help us continue to build out the scope of the compliance master plan that will extend through the end of this year and into next year.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#6

And I have to imagine that, I mean, this is a broad company effort and it's probably taking priority even in your own time. But I mean, you've now been here about 15 months on Integra. I mean maybe talk to us about maybe how your priorities have evolved with some of these operational challenges? And like once resolved, what do you want to focus on from a CFO perspective looking ahead?

Lea Knight

executive
#7

Yes. So to your point, the first, second and probably third priority, of the organization at this point is focused in on alleviating the immediate supply challenges, but more importantly, instituting a stronger quality control environment so that we can stay ahead and more proactively address risks or issues as they arise. So they don't become a problem in terms of getting products to our customers at the end of the day. But as I imagine a world where now that's under control and what can we do? It's about doing the work to get this business back to growth. We operate in very stable, attractive environments characterized by areas, where surgeons choice matters. We have long-standing relationships. We have strong products that are differentiated in their spaces. And we have an ability to grow at mid-single-digit levels, and we've been performing below that level because of these supply challenges. So as CFO, I'm excited about the opportunity to get back to that point where we can demonstrate an ability to drive revenue consistent with our potential.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#8

Got it. So this is a question I often get asked by investors and have for some time. But maybe it would be helpful to kind of hear your thoughts on this. Like why does CSS and the tissue technology assets together makes sense and ultimately achieving kind of long-range plan targets. The targets have really largely been unchanged like over the past several Analyst Days, but there's been some kind of changes in the portfolio. But why CSS, why tissue technology together?

Lea Knight

executive
#9

Yes. So Integra has a strong position in 5 key markets, right? You look across our business. It's neurosurgery, it's ENT, it's specialty surgical instruments. It's complex wound reconstruction it's private label. When we talk to the street, when we present our business, we typically present it through the 2 divisions you mentioned, Tissue Technologies and CSS, and we do that for a financial and reporting reasons. But from a management perspective, the businesses are managed, our highly integrated basis from an operating perspective. Underpinning that is a -- our portfolio is based on regenerative medicine. And so we sell regenerative products across those 4 key markets. And we have plans to introduce regenerative products through our newly acquired ENT portfolio. As an example, within neurosurgery, our sales force sells DuraGen and DuraSeal right, regenerative-based technologies. We sell regenerative products in our surgical instrumentation market. And we have plans to introduce to our newly acquired a clearance sales force team access to regenerative products to sell into ENT surgeons for use in procedures like skill-based procedures. And finally, even on an international front, as you look at it across our sales force there, they are highly integrated and servicing our 4 legacy markets. So there's this underpinning around regenerative medicine that makes sense, that drives the entirety of our portfolio across both of those divisions. And then when combined, the businesses generate substantial, have generated substantial EBITDA that's given us access to a fair amount of liquidity that will exceed many of our peer set.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#10

Got you. Maybe just a follow-up question there on the regenerative side in ENT. I don't -- maybe I'm misremembering this, but it doesn't feel like that was necessarily communicated as like the investment thesis for the acquisition. It was more just a bolt-on. So is that something new, is that's kind of been coming out or how you're thinking about the portfolio or synergy opportunities looking at it?

Lea Knight

executive
#11

Yes. So to your point, it wasn't characterized as part of why we did the deal today. But as we look ahead and we said, where does this business have a potential to grow the adjacency that exists between neurosurgery and ENT could it represent an opportunity, right, especially in procedures where they aren't a big piece of what happens today in terms of skull-based procedures, but they're an element that could represent an opportunity for us to leverage that technology. So it is about the potential of where it could go versus the value that we saw in the deal today.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#12

Got it. So it sounds like a bit of market development to kind of reach that opportunity and not necessarily a 2024 type of.

Lea Knight

executive
#13

Correct. Correct. Definitely.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#14

Got it. Maybe kind of like last like a higher-level question before we kind of dig into some of the segments. But just on China, remind us kind of where you are or the size of the business today and maybe what you're seeing from the landscape in China for anticorruption or consumer trends? And what you baked in for 2024?

Lea Knight

executive
#15

So across our China business, it's interesting. So when you look at kind of the neurosurgery products that we offer in China, you consider kind of the early stages we're in, in terms of market penetration and you look at kind of our plans for expansion across that market. It does represent durable growth despite some of the government restrictions that a lot of businesses are faced in that market. We haven't seen a lot of impact due to the anticorruption campaign in terms of the impact on our business. China is about 6% of our portfolio from a total Integra revenue base. We've been growing at high single to low double-digit levels independent of some of the challenges. And even when you think about things like VBP, we haven't seen a meaningful impact from volume-based pricing. And as a matter of fact, and part of that is [ neurosurgery -- ] VBP is not as -- hasn't penetrated [ neurosurgery ] deeply, so we benefit from that. But we also benefit from limited local competition. And then finally, what I would say is we're making investments in that area in terms of our in China for China manufacturing strategy that actually helps a, protect access to that market as we move forward. But b, also mitigates the potential for additional VBP actions. So we feel great about China in terms of the growth potential for this business in terms of what it's done lately, but also where we have an ability to go.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#16

And so the high single-digit, low double-digit kind of growth that you are seeing out of China, even despite some of the factors that China is seeing, are you still confident that, that's like a sustainable growth rate for the company in the business?

Lea Knight

executive
#17

Yes. And again, it goes back to kind of how penetrated we are versus where the market opportunity lives? Yes.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#18

Let's dig into Codman a little bit, and we'll start with neurosurgery and then go into the ENT business. But maybe with the supply holds back orders that we were seeing in neurosurgery, it was hit a little bit. But anything more that you can kind of share there and the progress that you're seeing in third quarter that's that can kind of give us confidence that the situation is derisked and I'll shut up and let you answer the question.

Lea Knight

executive
#19

Yes, absolutely. So from Codman in terms of the back orders, there's probably 2 dynamics that I want to speak to. When we left 2023, or exited 2023, we exited with a higher back order levels on the CSS business. And as we enter 2024 and looked at the nature of what was giving rise to those back order levels, we expected them to abate certainly, as we got into Q3 and through the rest of the year. And it has done just that, right? The challenge became as part of the Q2 call, when we announced the temporary shipping holds that was a new issue, right, that introduced a new level of back order that was even larger. And so that's what's contemplated in the July guide that I provided on the Q2 call. And it's against that, as I mentioned earlier, that we're now seeing progress. So what we talked about was we expected to release those temporary ship holds over time throughout Q3, by product by country, we've been doing just that. And again, the focus is, it's literally the #1 priority for us in the moment. We do understand though and we're excited about the fact that our products have proven clinical outcomes. They're trusted. But we know that we've probably shaken the trust of some of our customers as a result of these supply challenges. But we're doing kind of the work and the compliance master plan is our promise to restore that to...

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#20

And what's kind of been the competitive response that you're seeing kind of with the situation? And kind of given the data, the relationships that you do have with some of these products, I mean would you expect to kind of recapture that surgeon mind share, that trust pretty rapidly when you're back to full production?

Lea Knight

executive
#21

Yes. Yes, I think.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#22

Or full supply, sorry.

Lea Knight

executive
#23

Right. I think it's important to remember that as we look across this portfolio, to CSS is about $1 billion, over 2/3 of our business. And as we characterize the expected supply disruption in Q3 and Q4 from just a temporary ship holds. So what we said was it's about a [ $50 million ] impact and about a $10 million impact in Q4. And as I mentioned, because we're going to be releasing throughout the quarter, it means that there's a host of products within that subset that are out for a matter of weeks or maybe a month. And then there's some that do extend longer across that period. And so at a customer level, while they clearly are feeling the impact, it's not quite as stark as it may seem when you consider oh my gosh, there's a [ $50 million ] impact in Q3. So that's part of it. Beyond that, though, clearly, we are leveraging our sales force and the strength of their relationships to stay in front of our customers. They do have a big bag of products that comes -- that they can also use to help satisfy any of the existing needs that our customers have, but also provide kind of transparent communications as to when we're going to be back. And so we've been leveraging all of those things to make sure we maintain the strength of our relationships and that our customers are ready and willing to take our products back when we're ready to return them to the market.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#24

Got you. This is probably a very silly follow-up question. But kind of on that point, like sales force focus, and they do have a large bag, and I'm sure that they're kind of maybe looking at other products that they haven't spent a lot of time on previously just kind of given the bag. Has there been anything like surprising that you are seeing in terms of products that they are selling more forcefully now in the third quarter or fourth quarter that could actually be more sustainable as you're thinking about 2025 and beyond?

Lea Knight

executive
#25

So I think what we've seen a lot of great traction in the cost, and I'll talk about CFS, and if you allow me, I also talk about T technologies because I think there's a good story there. From a CFS perspective, we actually have seen a lot of strong traction in terms of our DuraGen, DuraSeal parts of the business in areas around MicroFrance and ENT. We've also seen a lot of strong growth. So to your point, where we have much stronger supply in other parts of the business, we are seeing a lot of traction and pull-through and that extends even into technologies. While we've had challenges as I'm sure we'll talk about PriMatrix. And [ Serdimen, ] we're seeing great lift in terms of ACell and DuraSorb. So we absolutely are leveraging the benefit of the very broad, diverse portfolio that we have.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#26

Got it. We'll definitely hit on some of those in a few minutes. But maybe just to close out the neurosurgery questions here. Maybe on CereLink, just kind of give us the update there. I mean the global relaunch, I think occurred in the third quarter, at least you're fully up and running now or second quarter, excuse me, but just how is the launch kind of matching your expectations? Or is it exceeding? And any kind of commentary that you can kind of give us on CereLink?

Lea Knight

executive
#27

Yes. For CereLink, we initiated the relaunch in our international markets in Q3 of 2023. Our LAP market to relaunch was the U.S., which is in February of 2024. That business, we sized the monitor sales in that business we sized at about $12 million annually. And we had incorporated a pro rata portion in our guide for 2024. And through Q2, we've been performing well against that expectation. In addition to that, we've seen double-digit sales in our sensors through Q2 as well. So we're seeing nice as expected performance from the mantra sales and really nice growth on the disposable sales across that business.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#28

Got it. Got it. On the ENT franchise, it's been roughly a couple of quarters since the deal closed, roughly. But one of the things out of the second quarter, I mean, you kept the ENT guidance unchanged despite the 2Q beat. So I mean is there any cautiousness that you're seeing in the back half? Or is it more just being conservative with the new asset in your hands?

Lea Knight

executive
#29

It's the latter. So we -- to your point, we acquired Acclarent April 1 as at the time that we acquired the guide that we provided versus how we delivered Q2, we did exceed that expectation by about $5 million. And part of our guide at the time, and it continues to be is to provide for the potential for disruption because we -- it's still early days in terms of integration. And so we'll enroll that upside in from a full year basis and taking our full year number up from 80 to 86, just based on what happened in Q2, we still can have a conservative assumption baked into the second half. Again, until we get through these early days of integration.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#30

In longer term, I think you've emphasized before that you're expecting kind of high single-digit growth out of that business. I mean maybe help us with the algorithm of understanding that, obviously, it was in a larger company that you didn't really have any visibility on at least we didn't have any visibility on kind of the growth. But I mean, are you holding that high single-digit growth stable? Are you accelerating that? And kind of what commercial R&D investments do you have to kind of put behind that to get there?

Lea Knight

executive
#31

Yes. So right before we acquired a Acclarent a few years before we acquired Acclarent. Acclarent was performing at high single-digit growth levels. And so that is the trajectory we expect to continue and it was on the heels of some of the newer innovation that have been released in the market. So we see an ability to be able to maintain that performance as we move forward. We've brought on board intact the commercial organization from Acclarent, the R&D organization from Acclarent. And that's what will fuel kind of our ability to maintain at those levels as we move forward. The other thing is from an integration perspective, we are partnering with J&J. We've instituted some transition services agreements and transitional manufacturing agreements to help manage through the integration so that it does happen smoothly. Those agreements vary in length, but they go up to 4 years, right? So giving kind of further confidence that we'll be able to manage the cutover smoothly. And so far, the teams are working well together. And as I mentioned, we are pleased by what we're seeing from a commercial performance through Q2.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#32

Got it. And you've talked about previously that the ENT business is scaled, big product portfolio today. Where else can you go kind of with this greener field opportunity? I mean what would -- what do you have to add to the bag to make your sales force's life easier?

Lea Knight

executive
#33

Yes. It's interesting because -- so we did typically talk about a lot of our M&A kind of strategies. But as you look at the game board that we've had for some time, we've looked at ENT opportunities in the past, and we've passed them over because they didn't have the scaled commercial sales force. And we knew we would need that commercial arm, which is a sizable investment to be able to execute on those opportunities and drive profitable return. And so those now become options for us. And I can't say more specifically, not for competitive reasons, but clearly, they become options for us now that we can go back and create some very attractive returns.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#34

Got it. And maybe just on revenue synergy side. I know that there wasn't necessarily anything like contemplated there, maybe lightly on the MicroFrance instrumentation side and you're talking earlier about the potential for generative products also. But is there anything else as you've had the asset now for, I'll say, a few months -- a couple of quarters that kind of gives you more confidence that there is revenue synergy opportunity, whether or not you're ready to quantify that yet or not?

Lea Knight

executive
#35

Yes. So right now, the revenue synergies that we see continue to be central to the MicroFrance opportunity. To your point, when we first did the deal, again, revenue synergies were not a big part of the value proposition. That said, we've been excited to see the momentum on our MicroFrance ENT business, that business through Q2 is growing at double digits. So we think there is more runway there than maybe even we understood at the time we did the deal. But that continues to be for right now, the focus of where our revenue synergy opportunities lie.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#36

Got it. Maybe let's shift over to the Tissue Technology business. We're going to 3 topics to hit on like to hit on is SurgiMend and in's the proposed LCD, but coming at that a little bit differently than maybe some questions that you get asked and then they [indiscernible]. But with SurgiMend you receive the PMA approvable notification pending the GMP certification. Just maybe kind of remind us on the timing and the lift of getting SurgiMend approved. And I know you can't market report for it yet, but any early thoughts on how you'd be thinking about commercializing or if you need to build like an incremental sales force headcount? Anything that you could share would be great there.

Lea Knight

executive
#37

Yes. Let me start by also because I do -- I want to clarify, I get this question a lot. So what is that PMA approval mean, right? So the PMA approval means subject to an FDA inspection. And that FDA inspection will look to make sure that our manufacturing facilities, methods, controls, comply with our quality regulatory system. In short, it means that we finished all of our clinical requirements as part of the submission, but we still have outstanding items as it relates to the manufacturing part of our submission. And so part of that, when we're operational in Braintree will the FDA will be able to come in and inspect make sure we satisfy those outstanding items we'll complete our submission and then wait for approval. I can't speculate as to when that inspection will actually happen. So but clearly, it's linked to when we operationalize the site out of Braintree. There's a second part of your question.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#38

There was. It was adding -- how are you thinking about adding a sales force headcount?

Lea Knight

executive
#39

Yes. And so the beauty of this is the same sales force that carried the 510(k) products is the same sales force that will now be able to carry the PMA product. And so from that perspective, we don't need to invest in an incremental kind of commercial capability to drive that execution.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#40

Got you. And sorry if you mentioned this earlier, but Braintree will be up and running first half.

Lea Knight

executive
#41

First half we said operational first half of 2026.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#42

Right. So then we should think about inspection at some point after that date.

Lea Knight

executive
#43

Not providing specific dates, but yes, it's tied to the operationalization of the site.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#44

Got it. Maybe just on the proposed LCD. I know that there has been some confusion given your presence in tissue technology and wound care in general. But how are you thinking about the skin substitute market now with the proposed LCD and DFU and VLU. I know, it's not necessarily going to impact your business so much. But I mean, this has been an area of outpatient physician office where integrally hasn't played. So how are you thinking about this from maybe a strategic standpoint when kind of the market, the industry there is actually cleaned up and stabilized.

Lea Knight

executive
#45

Yes. So the LCD determination, so to your point, governed skin substitutes specific to diabetic foot ulcers, venous leg ulcers and we have 2 products indicated for those 1 types, PriMatrix and Omnigraft. And what's interesting is prior to the proposed legislation, there was like over 230 products covered. Given the proposed LCD it now pays at 230 down to 15, and we still have 2 on that residual list of 15. So for us, we're excited about the direction that it's taking to your point, right now, DFUs VLUs are a very small part of our portfolio, but we believe the proposed reimbursement policies now point to products that have demonstrated rich clinical evidence along with products that have increased efficacy. And that plays really well to our portfolio. And so while it's not -- it's kind of neutral to our business right now, from a long-term growth potential, we think it represents a significant opportunity for us.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#46

Got you. So you could go about it both inorganically and organically.

Lea Knight

executive
#47

Absolutely.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#48

As a potential opportunity to downstream. Okay. With maybe heading Integra Skin briefly, it sounds like it's still on track to hit normalized run rates in the fourth quarter. I think it was about $200 million in sales for the company?

Lea Knight

executive
#49

Less than $200 million.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#50

But just kind of what are you seeing in terms of recommercialization efforts here? I mean is it going to be a bit of a kind of missionary sale to start? Or would you expect these clinicians to really just get up to 100% utilization or ramp very, very kind of quickly given the past experience.

Lea Knight

executive
#51

Yes. Let me step back a bit because there are a couple, I think, facts or details, nuances that matter. First of all, our equipment for production of Integra Skin is up and running. We have been producing. And we have continued to ship during this whole period, right? So it's not like we've been in any sort of stop ship mode. What's happened as of late as we had originally anticipated getting our production levels up to a point where we were meeting our normalized run rate by the end of Q2. That's now our current production pacing suggests that we're now pacing towards being able to do that in Q4. And so in short, what it means is we haven't stopped shipping to our customers. We just haven't met all of their demand. And so obviously, we have our sales force deployed and working with our customers to help them understand the time lines when our inventory will be back in a position to help better meet their needs and be there when they have their procedures. So that work is underway. We do expect as the -- like I said, as we get into Q4 and then get into 2025 is when we'd expect to see a return to growth for Integra Skin because we're able to regain our position in terms of meeting the needs of our customers.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#52

Got it. Let's maybe shift to another topic here. As we do look at next year, I mean, after the second quarter kind of commentary, you gave some framework for thinking about next year, and I think consensus landed around $1.7 billion in sales, $250 million in EPS. So that would be about 6% top line growth and 2% on EPS. Is that still a fair way to think about next year? And maybe to take a step back, just like help us understand kind of the main puts and takes that we should be thinking about for 2025 and your kind of confidence that given some of the headwinds like you do see the opportunity for mid-single-digit growth for next year.

Lea Knight

executive
#53

So on our Q2 call, I did not provide guidance for 2025. I did provide color to your point. And I'm not going to comment the consensus specifically, but I do -- I'll provide additional explanation on the color I provided. So we think it's appropriate to expect 2025 to grow at mid-single-digit growth off of where we now expect to exit 2024. And we believe that's appropriate, given the strong demand that we continue to see on our portfolio but it also allows for the potential for supply disruption as we continue to make progress against our compliance master plan. And that supply disruption is actually benchmarked off of what we've actually experienced in 2023 and 2024. So we don't have any known explicit examples of where we're going to incur the supply disruption. It really is just an allowance recognizing the fact that -- as we move forward with the compliance plan, we won't necessarily know what we're going to find until we get there. And so as you think about it, what's different about the approach we're taking around this color for 2025 is the nature of the supply issues in '24 were more temporary in nature. So you would expect them to come back in '25. It should be a tailwind to '25. But because we're allowing for the potential disruption we're taking that back down and saying it's just going to be how we exit 2024 at mid-single-digit growth because that's what we've been able to demonstrate.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#54

So it is embedding some potential theoretical disruptions?

Lea Knight

executive
#55

Absolutely.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#56

They don't come through, then we could expect.

Lea Knight

executive
#57

So where we're going to land that balance of where we're going to land will be a function of the demand that we see in the portfolio, along with the level of disruption we experienced. '25 also takes into consideration a full year of Acclarent. And obviously, from a margins perspective, we will have downward pressure on our adjusted margins because of the investments we're going to make in the compliance master plan. And when you step back and look at all of that, I think it's reasonable to what we're thinking at this point is that EPS would be flat to modest to reflect those investments.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#58

Got it. And we have about a minute or 2 left, but just in closing, I mean, there's a lot going on at Integra. I mean there's puts and takes. There's positives and negatives here. But what's something that you feel like is not being fully appreciated or being underappreciated by investors or something surprising that you're not getting asked about?

Lea Knight

executive
#59

So the operational challenges that we've seen to date shouldn't define the potential for this business. Our markets are -- offer stable and attractive growth rates. We operate in niche spaces driven by population growth driven by disease state prevalence as well as innovation. As you look across both of our divisions, they're characterized by for strong brand recognition, spaces where surgeon choice matters, and we have those really strong relationships with our customers. We have product differentiation in these spaces. We support procedures in the hospital setting that are profitable and it allows us an ability to take price. We also -- I mean, as you look across and compared to other med tech companies, there's not as many med tech companies out there that have an ability to grow at mid-single digits, while also offering inorganic and international expansion growth opportunities. We have a strong balance sheet. As I look at this year, in particular, in terms of what we've had to withstand operationally, it's evidence of the strength of our balance sheet, and we have access to liquidity that is above our peer set. So our challenges to date are a supply challenge. They are not a demand challenge. And you there is commitment throughout the organization, from the management team through the Board to do what's necessary, make the necessary investments to ensure we're securing our supply position and delivering more consistent results for our future.

Andrew Ranieri

analyst
#60

Got it. Sadly have to end there. But Lea, thanks so much for the time today. Really appreciate you making it. Thank you so much.

Lea Knight

executive
#61

Thank you, Drew.

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