Iovance Biotherapeutics, Inc. (IOVA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 23, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 25 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#1

Perfect. Well, thanks so much to everybody who's tuning in here. I'm Joe Catanzaro. I'm one of Piper's biotech analyst. It's my pleasure to welcome Iovance and their President and CEO, Maria Fardis. Maria, thanks so much for making the time here.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#2

I guess if we could just jump straight into it and, obviously, maybe start with non-small cell lung cancer. So we recently got some details around the Phase II IOV-LUN-202 trial design. I guess, first, walk us through that trial design and, specifically, the thought process that went into the type of patients that you want to enroll into those cohorts given sort of the emphasis you had put into the thought process around designing this trial.

Maria Fardis

executive
#3

Yes, absolutely. Thank you so much, Joe, for the invitation. Happy to talk to the IOV-LUN-202 study design. We really thought about a study design that would allow us to have the earliest possible patient population that we can treat, and yet we wanted these patients to be unmet medical need. We have seen the data, obviously, from the Moffitt study, and we know that PD-L1 low expression level can yield a durable response. We had also noticed the same phenomena in our melanoma study, where the patients with known PD-L1 expression levels by TPS score of that whole group, approximately half of them were, in fact, responders when you have a low TPS score. And that was encouraging to think that while this patient population is quite an unmet medical need from a PD-1 therapeutic perspective, they are irrelevant from a TIL response perspective. In other words, the patients quickly progressed through their PD-1 -- their anti-PD-1 therapeutic, but they can't respond to TIL. In consideration of that, we thought that the patient population that we could target could be divided to 2 groups by PD-L1 expression, and we chose the very low patient population and the higher by 1%, the division line. We also decided that we are going to de-risk this study by having a Simon 2-stage design, where if we don't see a response that we are interested in, in one of the cohorts, we can discontinue them. If the response is acceptable, we have the opportunity to possibly combine the cohort. So that's how we thought about the design aspect of the LUN-202 study.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#4

So there have been a lot of speculation around a potential focus on the mutant EGFR population. I think some of that speculation had come from the Moffitt data where they had shown a response in a patient. So why didn't that patient population makes sense from a perspective of this Phase II trial design?

Maria Fardis

executive
#5

Absolutely. We did, in fact, pay attention to that data, and we are highly encouraged to see that these patients do respond. However, the patients with actionable mutations are typically treated with TKIs as their first line, sometimes up to 3 rounds of TKIs. And subsequent to that, they are treated with chemo doublet plus/minus bevacizumab and sometimes with atezo combined. So that particular second-line patient population is not an unmet need. And in other words, if you wanted to go to unmet need in that population, we would have to be in third line or later. And we were just concerned -- as I noted earlier, we were concerned that we wanted to have patients that have some degree of health left in them so they have life expectancy to participate in this study. So we excluded those patients because we didn't think that the second line would be unmet need.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#6

This emphasis on pushing TILs into the -- as early as possible in the treatment paradigm, is there any learnings you've found over your entire clinical around TIL generation from different patient populations based on the number of pretreatments? And is there any indication that those with less heavily pretreated disease tend to generate a TIL product that is just more favorable, which can in turn lead to better clinical outcomes?

Maria Fardis

executive
#7

The decision on trying to go to early line is not based on a manufacturing experience or a notice of the phenotype or the profile of TIL product being different. It's more of a clinical observation that when the patients become heavily pretreated subsequent to multiple lines of therapy, particularly immunotherapy, that they're very difficult to turn around with yet another round of immunotherapy. From a manufacturing perspective, our manufacturing success rate has been well above 90%. This is a collective experience over the last few years, as a matter of fact. And we don't see a particularly significant difference between patients that are early line or late line from a manufacturing perspective. By the way, we also don't see a significant difference from an indication perspective as well, and we have published that data.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#8

So we've touched on Cohort 1 and 2, but there's also a couple of other cohorts. I guess, first, maybe Cohort 3, can you just describe what you're trying to do there and what kind of information you're trying to glean from that cohort?

Maria Fardis

executive
#9

Absolutely. We are offering a core biopsy, which is a smaller amount of tumor to be collected in case of Cohort 3. We intend to grow the TIL through a Gen 3 manufacturing process, which is a shorter manufacturing process of Iovance. And the reason we chose this, the patient population is PD-L1 negative, so the very low patient population. And the reason we did that is we wanted to have a nice comparator with other cohorts of this study, so a clean patient population. And in general, from a strategic perspective, we are optimizing our administration of TIL, trying to turn it into a more patient-friendly process, so the smaller mass of tumor is a step in that direction.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#10

So was the decision to include a cohort -- this cohort in any way and form from your prior experience in lung cancer from the COM-202 trial? And I'm asking specifically from the standpoint of finding patients who have easily accessible -- easily resectable lesions. Maybe it's more difficult in lung cancer than it is so in melanoma or even cervical.

Maria Fardis

executive
#11

That's an excellent point. There certainly has been a presumption that it may be harder to sort of resect a lung tumor compared to a melanoma tumor. Our surgeons tell us that particularly in the patient population, we are dealing with, which are the metastatic patient population, that they're able to resect sufficient tumor in the non-small cell setting. So for the patient population we are dealing with, we haven't seen a significant difference. But in general, our approach to core biopsy is toward, as you noted, collecting a smaller amount of tumor for various indications. Even in melanoma, if we can get away with 3 core biopsies, that's a great outcome from my perspective. So we are trying to make this a more easier-to-administer regimen.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#12

So you mentioned that Cohorts 1 and 2 are using a Simon 2-stage design, which is something you guys have kind of utilized quite frequently in some of your other trials. And if we think back to some of those other trials, the trigger point is largely around a 10- to 20-patient cohort size before you decide to upsize. Does that also trigger a potential discussion with the FDA around, first, do we combine these cohorts into a single cohort? And then subsequent to that, what do we need to show in a registrational cohort out of this trial?

Maria Fardis

executive
#13

Yes. I think the way you're thinking about it is very appropriate that, at some point, when you have enough patients in the 2 cohorts, one can make a decision. I just don't know because we haven't obviously started patient dosing. I just don't know how the rate of enrollment in these cohorts would be and whether they're going to be done sort of one-to-one. They may not be. So one may be further along than the other one. Presumably, if a situation arises where we have approximately the same number of patients in the 2 cohorts, we can take a step, as you are describing, to sort of start talking to FDA. But it requires that the 2 cohorts have approximately the same number of patients so we can actually compare them appropriately. I think it's a little early for me to be able to tell you what's going to happen. But certainly, look forward to being able to update The Street if we have additional information.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#14

So there's also Cohort 4 within this trial, and I received a question earlier this week on why -- on whether you've done this before. So this is the retreatment. And I know there is one similar cohort in the melanoma trial, but your experience there, I think, had been -- it's a little difficult to get a patient who has previously received TILs and progressed to recommit to the TIL process once again. So is this purely just an exploratory cohort to just offer it to the patients if they so choose to undergo the procedure again?

Maria Fardis

executive
#15

It actually is a result of the request from the patients and the physicians. Almost all of them require or request that they would have the opportunity -- if they wanted to come back and get retreated, that they would have the opportunity to do so. So we have created a platform in every study. In fact, all of our studies do have a cohort for retreatment should the patients decide to do that. In melanoma, we initially started with a little bit of a strategic thinking around could we resect a tumor that would have a different TIL profile than the original tumor. And would that give a different response? Initially, that's how we started thinking about it. But it has become more of patients would like to have access to retreatment, and therefore, we want to make sure that we have a platform where we can offer that to them.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#16

Okay. Okay. Got it. So last question with regards to lung cancer, which I'm sure you get frequently, is, what are expectations around presenting data from the lung cohorts of COM-202 and being able to see what kind of data do you have that you're using to support the initiation of the LUN-202 trial?

Maria Fardis

executive
#17

Yes. So for -- in terms of data flow, we certainly don't commit upfront to data flow. Typically, our strategy has been that if we have submitted our data, we got accepted into a conference, then we disclose that we did get accepted to the conference. We certainly did pay attention to our COM-202. There was lessons learned from that study in terms of the patient population. In COM-202, we have 2 cohorts of patients. One is checkpoint naive, and we are combining TIL plus KEYTRUDA in that patient population. That's Cohort 3a. And Cohort 3b is a relapsed/refractory patient population, which is expectedly post checkpoint, and many of them are third or fourth line or later. And that's been just our general observation in our TIL program. What we learned is that early-line patients are very difficult to find, particularly in a COVID era where patients may be more apprehensive to travel. And the late-line patients, specifically in the lung setting, don't always survive to give us a data point. And we have seen this before in our head and neck program, for example, as well. So in fact, we did learn something just by observation of the cohorts and the patient population that we use for LUN-202. We have chosen a patient population which is sort of in between for LUN-202. We have chosen a second-line patient population.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#18

So it sounds like there's 2 things. It's, first, having a data set that you internally feel is ready to present and then subsequently finding the venue to present those data from COM-202 lung cohorts.

Maria Fardis

executive
#19

That's probably a statement, yes. Thank you.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#20

Okay. I wish -- I probably had something else I could ask there, but we'll move on to head and neck cancer and the data you recently presented at SITC with regards to the pembrolizumab combination there. The response rate we've seen there, I think it very clearly indicates that this combination is well outperforming pembrolizumab monotherapy in this recurrent head and neck setting. But I guess, how should we think about next steps in terms of this data set evolving and maturing and what you want to see out of that to get comfortable that, okay, this combination is, in fact, providing a durable long-term clinical benefit over pembrolizumab monotherapy and even TIL monotherapy?

Maria Fardis

executive
#21

Yes, absolutely. It is very exciting to see 9 patients' worth of data, but we certainly acknowledge that it's early days and with a short follow-up. So we certainly want additional patients and longer follow-up before we can decide what exactly is the role of TIL in combination with KEYTRUDA in the patient population. But it's certainly exciting given that in post-chemo patients, anti-PD-1 typically would have around a response rate of 16% or so. So we are excited and encouraged with what we see at the moment, but we'll need to continue with additional patients to make sure that the data is accurate and representative.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#22

So ultimately, when we think about this combination and how it could potentially be pushed forward towards a registrational trial, is the only option a randomized trial where you randomize PD-L1 or pembrolizumab plus/minus TIL therapy? Or is there opportunity for a single-arm accelerated path here, depending, of course, on how the data evolve?

Maria Fardis

executive
#23

Yes. You're correct. It very much depends on the clinical benefit, and a single-arm can be considered. But in combination setting, which is where we are, typically, a randomized study is likely required to demonstrate the clinical benefit on the contribution of elements.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#24

So you have cohorts sort of combining your TIL platform with PD-1 within and outside of head and neck cancer. So there are cohorts in lung cancer and melanoma. How much confidence should this initial head and neck cancer data set give us for the melanoma, the cervical and the lung cancer cohorts? Is there -- do you see any sort of parallels and read-throughs that we can make from this initial head and neck combination data set?

Maria Fardis

executive
#25

Yes, great question. I think that is precisely why we set up the multiple cohorts, to see, is this a shared phenomenon. Or is this something that would be more sort of focused on head and neck or specific indications? Of course, prospectively, we didn't know which indication or what's going to look good at or what's not going to. I think the issue for us is that they are not all ongoing at the same rate. So this is where we had the most amount of data, and we were able to put it out. But as we accumulate more data and other indications, we're only happy to put that information out. The hypothesis was the same, Joe, though, very much expectedly, in early-line patients. You have 2 benefits that one can think about. The patient's immune system has not been exhausted. If they're immune checkpoint naive patients and certainly in combination with an approved regimen, such as KEYTRUDA, one should see a clinical benefit. So once we have additional data, we can certainly draw that conclusion whether this type of an observation holds across multiple indications or just purely on head and neck.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#26

So I want to stick with head and neck for just one more second here and go back to the monotherapy opportunity for TILs in this setting. You guys have generated some initial data. We haven't seen an update in quite some time. But is there a viable monotherapy path that you still see within head and neck cancer that parallels melanoma, cervical, potentially, lung cancer? And then the other question that I get is I think something you guys have spoken about, is that the durability of responses within head and neck cancer as a monotherapy haven't been up to where you want them to be. Is there anything that explains why that's the case in head and neck cancer and it diverges from what we've seen in melanoma and cervical thus far?

Maria Fardis

executive
#27

Excellent questions, actually. Let me answer your second one first. We cannot figure out why the duration of response will be different in head and neck outside of the fact that it is a different disease setting, of course, and a particularly aggressive one in general. So it seems that head and neck might be a bit more difficult than, say, melanoma or cervical in terms of durability of response. You're correct that in the setting of head and neck as a monotherapy with Gen 2, we were seeing a duration of around 2 to 7 months -- duration of response of 2 to 7 months, and we certainly would like to be able to improve upon that. In order to do that, we have introduced 2 new products into that study. One is a Gen 3 product, the 16-day manufacturing, and one is a PD-1 select product that we have introduced into this study. And those were done early part of 2020. So we look forward to being able to have enough information to assess whether they would add any additional value to the head and neck indication. But it is early days for us to still to be able to draw any conclusions from there.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#28

So the Gen 3.0 product, it sounds like there's some thinking along the turnaround time is quicker. And I know in this head and neck setting -- recurrent head and neck setting, these patients have pretty dismal long-term outcomes. And so having a long turnaround time maybe presents some challenges. And so this 3.0 product maybe helps to that. But is there also any potential for this Gen 3.0 product to have better phenotypic qualities for the TIL product that maybe they're younger and so, in turn, can improve on the durability that you've seen with the Gen 2.0 product?

Maria Fardis

executive
#29

That certainly was our hypothesis, that we thought that there's 2 directions and a new generation of product could help the head and neck patients. One is the shorter manufacturing duration, as you noted, and one is -- we did observe when we went from Gen 1 to Gen 2 that the phenotype of the cells as the manufacturing duration is shorter is younger. And they had better potency as assessed by certain assays, such as Interferon-gamma. So that was definitely a hypothesis, and we did see the same type of pattern in Gen 3. So you're exactly correct that you thought this could be a potential additional benefit that we're offering to head and neck patient population. This is why we put it as a cohort into the C-145-03 study.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#30

Okay. Got it. So I do want to use these last few minutes to, of cause -- of course, talk about melanoma and cervical. And I guess the first question really gets to the broader TIL platform and the potency assays that you're continuing to work on following your discussions with the FDA. I know there's not a lot of specifics you can say about those, the work you're doing. But maybe you could just sort of walk us through at a high level what you're expecting in terms of reinitiating or reengaging with the FDA, if that's not already occurring, and then time lines around the next disclosure for us with regards to the potency assays and whether the FDA is agreeable or not.

Maria Fardis

executive
#31

Right. Yes, we absolutely have done both. We continue the engagement with FDA as well as continue to provide additional data to the agency. Just to remind ourselves, on the cytokine assay that we had provided to them, they wanted additional data refinement. So we continue refining the data to provide to FDA. On the second set of assays that had been provided to the agency, we continue with our work in validating that assay to provide a full data package to FDA. And on the third front, where we consider them additional assays, we are to continuing to develop assays, some of which we have used in our research work will be having -- developed for commercial for these assays. So all the work is continuing, and the dialogue with FDA is also continuing. In terms of sort of a specific point of time where we can update The Street, we have to receive something that is meaningful and -- to be able for us to communicate to The Street. So some sort of clarity from the agency would be needed before we are able to update the agency -- the shareholders. At the moment, I'm not sure what that time point would be. The agency is not obligated to review the documents we submit to them. They're not on the clock, so to speak. So it has to be something that we get some clear feedback from them in order for us to be able to communicate. We won't do that before getting some sort of clarity from them.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#32

So essentially, moving time line to the side, it's just from the perspective of being able to say we believe we've come to an agreement with the FDA around these potency assays, and then you could then provide sort of updated guidance around a BLA filing.

Maria Fardis

executive
#33

And they may not be in that order. It depends on sort of how the agency comes around and talks about it. Typically, in a pre-BLA landscape, just from my prior experience, the agency, when they agree, they would still say this is a review issue. And that by itself doesn't give me the absolute percent -- 100% confidence. But they say it's a review issue, but you may proceed with whatever next step. So there may not be communication. If that's the type of answer we get, there may not be communication to The Street. We may just proceed to, in fact, submit the BLA if that is their advice next step. It's pretty hard for me to speculate, to be honest, because, I mean, it is looking into the future and deciding what -- who says what and how this is going to look. If we get any clarity from the agency, we certainly will communicate it, but I'm not sure if we will get it or we will not. So I'm not kind of confirming or denying what the communication would be.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#34

Okay. Fair enough, but that's even still really helpful. With regards to Cohort 4 of melanoma, we've gotten sort of the top line data back in June, if I remember correctly. Are there expectations for a more fulsome data presentation from that cohort in 2021?

Maria Fardis

executive
#35

Yes. So we probably will not cut the data until we have some degree of agreement with FDA on submission. The purpose of the data cut would be towards submission, and so it needs to have some degree of contemporaneousness. So it cannot be cut significantly before submission. So a lot of our upcoming data flow in melanoma is going to depend on when is it we think we can submit the package and contemporaneous to that or a few months before that we cut the data to provide to them, at which point we can consider communication. But I don't know if we can necessarily commit to a time line until we have agreement on the filing time frame with FDA.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#36

Is that the same way, and this is a good segue, how we should think about the cervical cohort in that timing of a data cut is contingent maybe on potency assays coming to alignment with the FDA and future time lines around a BLA filing within cervical?

Maria Fardis

executive
#37

Yes, I agree. So pivotal programs typically have to be read. At least, we're treating them very much like pivotal randomized cohorts, in fact. So we are not cutting the data unless we have some degree of agreement with FDA before we provide it to them. And then if we have it, then we can publicly disclose them as well. But we won't do it just for public disclosure. We are doing it more based on FDA requests and time line.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#38

Okay. Got it. Maybe last question in this last minute or so here. As you think about commercial preparations and -- how has the BLA filing delay impacted maybe what you're thinking about accomplishing now with regards to commercial preparation versus closer to the BLA filing and during the review period? What's ongoing now? And what's going to happen later?

Maria Fardis

executive
#39

Yes, absolutely. I think my commercial team has gotten a little bit more time to prepare the sites to continue their negotiations with the payers as well as preparing the market. We can also possibly consider additional sites that we can target for activation for the commercial landscape. So it gave us an opportunity to catch our breath a little bit and making sure that we are able to do everything that we can do in anticipation of lifileucel hopefully coming to market. So we continue with everything that we have been planning on the commercial side, the site preparation, payer negotiation, our market research and all activities, in particular, discussions with CMS. We just feel that we have a little bit more time to accomplish everything we wanted to accomplish.

Joseph Catanzaro

analyst
#40

Okay. Perfect. Well, Maria, I think we are out of time and appreciate you making the time. I always enjoy our discussions. And thanks, everybody, for tuning in. Take care.

Maria Fardis

executive
#41

Thank you, Joe.

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