IRB InvIT Fund (540526) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 13, 2025

NSEI IN Financials Capital Markets earnings 37 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the IRB InvIT Funds conference call hosted by the company for discussing the financial results for the quarter and half year end September 2025. We have with us on the call today, Mr. Anil Yadav, Mr. Rushabh Gandhi and Ms. Swapna Vengurlekar from IRB InvIT team. [Operator Instructions] Please note that the duration of this call would be 45 minutes and any queries left unanswered after the call can be subsequently mailed to the management for adequate response and resolution. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now request Mr. Rushabh to give you an overview of the significant development during the quarter. Over to you, sir.

Rushabh Gandhi

executive
#2

Thank you. Good evening, everyone. I would like to extend a warm welcome to all our investors and analysts joining us on the call today. I trust you have had an opportunity to review our detailed financial results in the accompanying presentation. Coming to the acquisition of assets. During the quarter, the Trust successfully completed the acquisition of 3 road assets with a combined enterprise value of INR 8,436 crores. The acquisition was funded through an institutional placement of approximately INR 4,250 crores, marking one of the largest fund raised by any public listed InvIT. This was also the first capital raise since our listing in 2017 and witnessed strong broad-based participation from a diverse group of marquee long-term institutional investors, both foreign and domestic. The 3 highway assets acquired from IRB Infrastructure Trust with a weighted average life of 20 years include Hapur-Moradabad project, which is situated in the state of Uttar Pradesh, Kaithal Rajasthan project, which is situated in the state of Haryana and Kishangarh-Gulabpura project, which is situated in the state of Rajasthan. With this acquisition, the weighted average concession life of the portfolio has increased from 14 years to 17 years, enhancing long-term cash flow visibility. The portfolio now comprises of 9 operational road assets, which includes 8 BOT and 1 HAM asset, with a total enterprise value exceeding INR 16,000 crores, more than double the earlier portfolio size. The Trust has expanded its footprint in 2 high GDP states, which is Uttar Pradesh and Haryana, further strengthening its geographic diversification and growth potential. Coming to toll revenue performance. During the quarter, we recorded a year-on-year toll revenue growth of approximately 6% across our portfolio despite a heavy and extended monsoon across several regions of the country. This growth was driven by the continued strong performance by our key projects with Tumkur-Chitradurga project reporting an 11% increase, followed by Jaipur-Deoli projects with 6% growth. Additionally, the Omalur-Salem project saw a tariff escalation of 2.25%, which was effective from 1st of September 2025. Reset in distribution. With the expanded capital base, the Trust has declared a distribution of INR 192.24 crores, resulting in a payout of INR 1.5 per unit. This distribution primarily comprises of INR 0.9 per unit as interest, INR 0.48 per unit as return of capital and INR 0.12 per unit as dividend. We expect this level of distribution to continue going forward. Strong credit profile and capital management. The Trust continues to maintain a robust credit profile with its AAA rating reaffirmed by 2 of the leading credit rating agencies. During the quarter, we successfully reduced our average cost of debt from 8.5% to 8%, reflecting our strong financial position and disciplined capital management. Additionally, upon receipt of approval from NHAI, the VK1 SPV debt was successfully refinanced at the Trust level, resulting in complete consolidation of debt across the portfolio. This step enhances financial efficiency and optimizes our capital structure. In connection with the recent acquisitions, the Trust also raised nonconvertible debentures amounting to INR 1,150 crores with a tenure of 5 years, 10 years and 15 years with a coupon rate ranging from 7.35% to 7.4%. This structure provides long-term funding stability at competitive rates, further strengthening the balance sheet and supporting future growth. The quarter reflects continued operational resilience, disciplined capital management and a clear focus on sustainable growth. With the expanded portfolio and strengthened balance sheet, the trust is well positioned to deliver consistent distribution and long-term value to its unitholders. Having more than doubled our portfolio size through the recent acquisitions, we are now firmly on track to achieve an AUM of approximately INR 40,000 crores over the next 3 years, supported by a healthy pipeline of opportunities and robust sector outlook. Now I would like to take you through the financial performance for the current quarter as compared to the corresponding quarter of previous year. The total consolidated income for current quarter stood at INR 278 crores as compared to INR 270 crores for the corresponding quarter of previous year. The consolidated toll revenues for the current quarter increased to INR 242 crores as against INR 228 crores for the corresponding quarter of previous year. EBITDA for the current quarter stood at INR 233 crores as against INR 224 crores for the corresponding quarter of previous year. Interest cost, which includes interest on premium deferment for the current quarter stood at INR 73 crores as against INR 72 crores in the corresponding quarter of previous year. Depreciation, which includes amortization on toll collection rights for the current quarter stood at INR 72 crores as against INR 64 crores for the corresponding quarter of previous year. Profit after tax stood at INR 83 crores as against INR 85 crores in the corresponding quarter of previous year. Now I would like to request the moderator to open the session for Q&A.

Operator

operator
#3

[Operator Instructions] First question is from the line of [ Dhvaneet ] from [ Savla Family Office ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#4

My first question is with regards to the 6% increase which we have seen in the toll collection. I understand that comparably it will be a little different because I think so the Pathankot project last year had given significantly less revenue because of certain ongoing issues with that. So this 6%, what is this mainly attributed to why is [indiscernible] revenue firstly? And secondly, these new 3 projects which we have taken, okay? I know it is still early, but can you give us kind of a guidance on what kind of revenues we are looking for? And is it going to lead to higher DPUs in the future or probably the same DPUs, but for a longer we are going to enjoy the same.

Unknown Executive

executive
#5

Yes. Thank you for your questions. I think the first question was on the growth of the revenue and the traffic. Hope you'll appreciate, which Rushabh has covered in his opening remarks that this year, we have seen excessive rain. And that was also -- there was an extended monsoon. So that has led some impact on overall traffic. And this is not with our -- if you look at -- I think there are so many InvIT are listed and there was an impact across. And another reason was that because if you notice that the government has on 15th of August of this year has announced that there will be a rationalization of the GST. And thereafter, there was a bit slower activity on the backdrop of that in terms of the movement of vehicle and other things. So that has contributed some kind of slower traffic. Having said that, now coming to your second question that with regard to the acquisition. So I think in terms of the acquisition, we are committed to expand the life and overall payout to the unitholder. And if you look at the life of the existing asset was declining gradually. And the life was reduced to almost 14 years. And there was consistent decline in the life and even in the unit price. And now we have added the asset which has a life of 20, 21 years. And with that, the asset size has moved from INR 8,000 crores to INR 16,000 crores and life has also increased from 14 years to 17 yes. Not only we have increased the life over 17 years, but if you look at the payout, definitely because if one is buying an asset with a longer life, then there will be adjustment of the DPU. Anyway, the DPU would have been adjusted post the M.V.R. project was about to get over in FY '27, there would have been adjustment. Now I think based on the current addition of the asset, we will be able to pay out INR 6 per annum for this financial year. So only 2 quarters are left for the balance 2 quarters, we will be paying close to INR 1.5 per quarter. And next year, this payout will be expected to increase by 5%. And we are -- as we have talked about in the last con call also that we are -- we will be adding one HAM asset without any kind of dilution to the unitholder. And with that HAM asset, the distribution is further expected to increase to 3% to 4% without any kind of dilution, then overall distribution will increase by that 3% to 4%.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Sarvesh Gupta from Maximal Capital.

Sarvesh Gupta

analyst
#7

This reduction in DPU which has happened, so this is primarily owing to the acquisition? And how does -- is that right? And how does it change the YTM for the -- how does the acquisition numbers now that we have it, how does that change the YTM that we had originally envisaged before the acquisition versus after the acquisition?

Unknown Executive

executive
#8

Can you just elaborate YTM what you are referring? You are referring to the IRR or payout, if you can just elaborate on YTM.

Sarvesh Gupta

analyst
#9

So sir, I'm referring to IRRs basically, let's say, at this time, what we expected to get till the end of the life in terms of percentage, and I think somewhere in the previous calls, you had alluded that, that number is around 13%, 14%. And after the acquisition, how does that change?

Unknown Executive

executive
#10

Yes, Sarvesh, very good question. We will cover that. So if you look at -- as per InvIT regulation, we are supposed to provide the valuation of all the assets where the valuer has factored the numbers, toll revenue and the O&M also. Since we have fixed price contracts, we don't have any volatility in terms of O&M cost is concerned, that is operation and maintenance cost is concerned. If you look at, in fact, the private InvIT 3 assets are valuation are also in the public domain. Considering that both the valuation, as I was talking about this year around 6% kind of -- sorry, INR 6 kind of annualized payout that is translating at current market price around 10% kind of yield and that will be gradually increasing by 5% from next year onwards. And without considering any further asset addition, that will be consistently growing by 5% for next 5 years and thereafter 10%. So I think if you look at the IRR on current price, it will translate around ranging between 15% to 17%, depending upon what kind of growth number one factors in working out the numbers. But it will be upwards of 15.5%, 16% based on the valuation report, which is in the public domain.

Sarvesh Gupta

analyst
#11

Yes, sir. Sir, in that one more question was that when I have seen some of these reports in the past, we had assumed almost a high single-digit, sort of low double-digit total revenue or total toll revenue increase, including the inflation increase, which was also earlier higher than what we are doing now. So when you are saying 15%, 17%, have we adjusted to the newer realities where we are able to get maybe only 5% overall revenue growth instead of 8%, 9%, 10% overall growth. So what is the assumption that we have in built because inflation has also come down. And secondly, like-to-like, if you are seeing the toll revenue increase also, for example, ex of Pathankot, even in the latest month, which was -- one asset was disrupted. If I ex out that, then the revenue growth is only 2%. So inflation is anyways down and the overall toll revenue growth is also, I think, ex of the disturbances is not very high, so as per the current reality is this 15%, 17% or as per the earlier 8% to 10% toll revenue growth, it's coming to 15%, 17%.

Unknown Executive

executive
#12

I think if you look at the valuation, valuation report, the current number that is the first number is dependent upon the actual revenue realized. In terms of future projection, the traffic and certain factors what was the historical growth. If you look at the historical growth for this project, the historical growth would have been in the range of 5% to 6%, and if you add the inflation, if you talk about 5 years or 6 years inflation, it was upwards of 5%. So the growth was around 10% in terms of revenue. But as you rightly mentioned that valuer factors 9.5% kind of growth in the overall revenue growth. And other thing we have to look at the inflation we have got in some years around 10%, 11% also in some projects, 14% also. So automatically, if you have higher growth in few years, then automatically, there will be an adjustment of the inflation. Good thing about our project is that our inflation is 3% fixed plus 40% of WPI. So even if WPI remains benign, then also there will be a 3% fixed rate, which we will be getting. And just to give you a right context that if you look at 1 year, the trust was paying around 8.9% kind of interest cost. Now the interest cost has come down to almost 7.9% -- weighted average interest cost has come down 7.9%. This is including the total debt. And now the total debt will be around INR 8,000 crores. And 100 basis point -- 90 to 100 basis points kind of saving will result almost INR 80 crores kind of saving in the interest cost. That is number one. If you look at the even 1% delta in the revenue will be around INR 18 crores. So the saving in the interest cost is much higher as compared to what would have been the reduction in the revenue. So considering this aspect, in fact, the valuer consistently factors the reality in their valuation report on that basis, they value the asset. So I think if you look at the valuation report, those considered the realistic number. And if you look at the little, short to medium-term kind of horizon, we believe that those number is achievable.

Sarvesh Gupta

analyst
#13

Okay. And sir, on the breakup of this, so this time we have also got in some capital repayment. So going forward, what sort of a mix is supposed to be there?

Unknown Executive

executive
#14

I think historically, if you look at 66% to 75% we were paying in form of interest and balance was in form of dividend and capital repayment and which is expected to remain in the similar pattern, roughly 2/3 or 3/4 will be interest and 1/4 will be a kind of capital repayment and dividend.

Sarvesh Gupta

analyst
#15

No, sir, just capital reduction part of it, if you can give some guidance on that because that is treated differently from a tax perspective compared to dividend.

Unknown Executive

executive
#16

Even the dividend also, dividend is exempt in the hands of the unitholders. I will request Rushabh to just provide you the explanation why the dividend is exempted.

Rushabh Gandhi

executive
#17

Sure. So basically, in our case, all the SPVs, except for VK1 are following the old tax regime. So as per the income tax law, if the underlying SPV, which is providing the distribution to the trust is following the old tax regime, then the distribution in the hands of unitholders will be exempt. So in fact, the 3 assets which we have acquired, even those 3 assets are following the old tax regime. But typically, the asset in the -- for BOT asset, initially, they have a book loss because of amortization and finance cost. So in case of MVR, it is on the fag end of the concession, accordingly, it has started generating book profit. So that particular book profit, we are distributing in the form of dividend, which is exempt in the hands of unitholders.

Unknown Executive

executive
#18

So just to clarify that since we are -- all our SPVs are following old tax regime, whatever the dividend is paid will be exempt in the hands of the unitholders. This is what is our understanding of the income tax.

Sarvesh Gupta

analyst
#19

Okay. So broadly, you are saying that for the remainder of the year, you will pay INR 3. And then next year, HAM asset would also be acquired. So next year might be INR 6.5 or thereabouts. Is that the right understanding?

Unknown Executive

executive
#20

Yes, yes, absolutely correct.

Operator

operator
#21

The next question is from the line of Mr. Saurabh an individual investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#22

Am I audible?

Unknown Executive

executive
#23

Yes, Saurabh, go ahead. You are audible.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#24

Yes. So I'm just taking a step back and trying to understand the big picture. I have been an investor and I have been in InvIT, I think, for just after listing. Sir, I just want to understand in terms of -- and I've been attending all your conference calls for the last 6, 7, 8 years. In the last 2 calls when we were discussing about these assets, the way this acquisition was supposed to be structured was without diluting the return for the shareholders, for the existing shareholders. But today's press release shows that there is a decline of INR 1.5 on an annual basis, which is fine. We've acquired new assets. The life has become elongated for the asset. But when can we see growth? Because when I look at your monthly toll numbers that you report, we are growing, the country is growing, but somehow the DPUs, the asset price for IRB InvIT does not seem to grow. When we acquired the HAM asset 2 years back, it was supposed to add some additional return. What am I missing here? I mean, next year, you are saying it's going to be INR 6.5. And I think in a few years back, some calls, you had mentioned that in 2030, we will get as high as INR 15, INR 20 dividend. So I'm not getting into number specific, but I'm just trying to understand, and I have other InvITs as well in my portfolio. All of them seem to be growing, but I'm missing something in IRB InvIT. I'm just trying to understand what is it that I'm missing. Your monthly toll numbers seem to be growing, everything seems to be growing, but the DPUs and share price are the only 2 things that don't seem to be growing. So what am I missing? And interest rate affects all the InvITs and the REITs. So it's not specific to IRB InvIT. The economy is doing well. So I'll take a pause here. I would appreciate some comments from the management.

Unknown Executive

executive
#25

Yes. Thank you. Thanks for candid feedback. And I will take all the questions. I think in terms of the price of the InvIT, if you look at when we have announced this transition, that time, the price was trading between INR 50, INR 52. And over the period of time, the price has moved to around INR 6. And in terms of if you look at -- since you are the unitholder, you will be better placed to appreciate this fact that the InvIT, which is adding the asset and growing the portfolio, in terms of the price performance, their price performance was much better as compared to the InvIT, which is though they are paying very high DPU, but there was the decline in the prices. There are certain other InvIT to give the example. It will not be appropriate on my part to take the name. But there are -- both the kinds of InvIT is there. One is basically growing and adding the asset and their price is increasing. And secondly, and there, in fact, the yield may be lower yield, I think 9% to 10%, but still, there is a consistent improvement in the price. I think the expectation of the investor is that if there is InvIT, there should be definitely yield to the unitholder, but there should be consistent growth in the InvIT. And in fact, if you track the InvIT who has been growing and raising the money from the market, all the capital raises were 10% to 15% higher than the previous capital raises. So I think we believe that now we are also on the growth path. And hopefully, there will be a consistent addition of the asset. And now coming back to your yield aspect, as you rightly appreciated that if there is toll revenue growing, there should be a reward to the unitholder and yield to the unitholders should also be consistently growing. And in terms of the DPU, I think as Rushabh has explained that this year, it will be a kind of 6% -- INR 6 per annum. And next year, 8%, 9% growth, there will be a 5% growth in the DPU based on the existing project. And further, there will be improvement with the addition of the HAM asset. Having said that, since there can be one question that since revenue is growing by 8% to 9% or 9% to 10% but the DPU is only increasing by 5%. So there is -- in terms of the debt repayment also, that also keeps on happening and the debt repayment are structured in the ballooning way. So then there is a debt repayment is also happening, but that gets adjusted. So considering that we are -- whatever we are discussing, we are providing a guidance in terms of whatever the data is there in the public domain. This year, roughly INR 6 per annum basis for the balance 2 quarters and followed by 5% growth in the next financial year.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#26

Just one follow-up question. So I understand -- forget the next 5 years, whether the economy or you grow by 5%, 3%, all of that is fine. But when can I expect -- when can we, as investors, expect a bump up in the dividend? If I go back 1 or 2 years in the conference calls, once these premium repayments are finished, we are supposed to see a nice jump in the DPUs. Is that still applicable for the year 2029, 2030 or that's also gone?

Unknown Executive

executive
#27

No, no, it's not gone. You are absolutely correct. You have studied the model since as you are aware that there is a deferment premium also happening and which is expected to get over by FY '30. Once that gets over, then definitely, the entire surplus will be available for the distribution. So that definitely will be there. But having said that, now that will get distributed to the larger base of the unitholders. So I think in FY 2030 and onwards, then definitely, there will be a big jump up.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#28

If right now, your team can just mention to all the investors, how much will that jump up be? Sorry, that's the final question.

Unknown Executive

executive
#29

I think as of now, what we are guiding is 5% growth for first 5 years and followed by the 10% growth. And thereafter, whatever the additional jump up will be there, then we will be providing separately those numbers.

Operator

operator
#30

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Mr. Rahul Jain from Alt Capital. Since the participant is unresponsive, we will move on to the next participant. The next question is from the line of Mr. Yash Mishra from SKS Capital & Research.

Yash Mishra

analyst
#31

Am I audible?

Unknown Executive

executive
#32

You're audible, loud and clear.

Yash Mishra

analyst
#33

So I had just 2 questions. Firstly, what would be the NAV post dilution?

Unknown Executive

executive
#34

I think there is a simple math in terms of NAV. Earlier the NAV was around INR 93, INR 94 and the unit capital was issued -- QIP was at INR 60. And this with regard to the preferential allotment, which was done to IRB and L&T that was at INR 63. So considering that it should be a submission of the both divided by 2, ideally it should translate between INR 75 to INR 80.

Yash Mishra

analyst
#35

Okay. And the second question would be a simple one. So the reason for the decline in DPU would be mostly due to the increase in number of unit holders?

Unknown Executive

executive
#36

No, no, that is not the reason. I think one thing I would like to, in fact, would like to highlight, these are the toll assets. And toll asset has 8% to 9% kind of growth over the life of the asset. So once there is -- the asset which you are owning that has a 14 years life and asset which you're acquiring is 20, 21 years of life, then there is a mismatch of the life also because there will be consistent growth in the revenue. Whenever you are buying the asset, which has a larger life then automatically, there will be adjustment in the payout. It's not that just unit capital is increasing, that's why the DPU is decreasing. It has to basically the life of the asset. If I would have added 10 years life of asset to my InvIT , then definitely DPU would have been increased.

Operator

operator
#37

The next question is from the line of Mr. Sunil Kumar, an individual investor.

Sunil Kumar

attendee
#38

Again, I'm a retail investor, sir. [indiscernible] general question everybody asked, but I want a little bit of clarity on this. Other InvITs also where I invested, I do see that they do acquisition and you know -- kind of resulting into the DPU as well. And our case, I understood that the explanation you gave before. And at least it shouldn't be like not falling. -- the DPU shouldn't be falling. But unfortunately, we do see that falling. Why is this the difference between other InvITs versus us, sir?

Unknown Executive

executive
#39

Yes. So I think let me answer this. If you have something more, you can add on. So I think very pertinent question you have raised. In terms of InvIT, if you are looking at the kind of InvIT, which is having kind of this transmission asset or in our case also annuity asset, where the revenue is to begin with -- revenue starts at a higher base. And gradually after 8, 10 years, the revenue starts declining and there is no growth in the revenue. So there from day 1 and the life of the asset will be typically 15 years for the HAM project. So there from the day 1, there will be increase in the payout. So as we were talking about one HAM asset addition whenever we have -- in past we have did one HAM asset addition that time also the DPU has improved. And we are about to add one HAM asset there also the DPU will increase. Whenever -- you will have the asset which is not -- where the revenue is not growing, your DPU will increase from the day 1. Whenever you have a growth asset, which is consistently compounding automatically there is a mismatch between the life of existing assets and the asset which you are buying, if the life of those assets is much larger, then definitely, it is bound to happen that those DPU will fall. Just to -- may not be exactly pertinent for you, just to give you the example, we have formed one more private InvIT, which is private InvIT and it's a development platform. It's nothing to do with the public InvIT where initially the investor has invested in financial year 2020, and there was no payout until 2024. Because if the assets are just completing and initially, the revenue will be lower and as the asset will be maturing, there will be increase in the revenue. In fact, in our -- if you look at in the sponsor's corporate presentation, they have provided one slide how the BOT or TOT or toll road asset, which is on the basis of toll revenue, how the evaluation of -- evolution of those assets happens over the life of the asset. So typically, if you have a different mix of the life, then automatically, it is going to affect your payout to begin with. That was one reason. Second reason was that since the MVR asset was about to go and there would have been automatically readjustment of the payout. If you look at the MVR asset is today paying close to INR 2 per unit. So anyway, there would have been readjustment of the payout post the MVR asset would have been handed over. But now with this asset addition, this will be taking care. There will not be any blip in the payout when MVR asset will be completing its life.

Operator

operator
#40

Ladies and gentlemen, this was the last question for today. I would now like to hand over to the management for the closing comments. Please go ahead, sir.

Rushabh Gandhi

executive
#41

Thank you very much to all the investors and analysts on the call.

Operator

operator
#42

Thank you so much, sir. On behalf of IRB InvIT Fund, this concludes the conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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