J.G. Chemicals Limited (JGCHEM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 10, 2026
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Operator
operatorGood morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the J.G. Chemicals Limited Q1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to Mr. Navin Agarwal, Head, Institutional Equities at SKP Securities Limited. Thank you, and over to you.
Navin Agarwal
attendeeGood morning, ladies and gentlemen. My apologies for the delayed start, it was on technical grounds. It's my pleasure to welcome you on behalf of J.G. Chemicals and SKP Securities to this financial results conference call. We have with us Mr. Anirudh Jhunjhunwala, MD and CEO; Mr. Anuj Jhunjhunwala, Whole-Time Director and CFO; Mr. Amit Agarwal, General Manager, Accounts and Finance. We'll have the opening remarks by Mr. Anirudh Jhunjhunwala, followed by a Q&A session. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Jhunjhunwala.
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveThank you so much. A very good morning to everyone, and a warm welcome to J.G. Chemicals earnings call for the first quarter of the financial year 2027. We sincerely appreciate the time all of you have set aside to join us today. However, before I begin, I would like to take a moment to express our deepest condolences on the sad and very untimely demise of Shri Ashok Bhandariji, Independent Director of our company, who passed away on 3rd August 2026. Mr. Bhandari was an integral part of the company's leadership and made valuable contribution through his wisdom, experience and guidance. His passing is an irreparable loss to the company. On behalf of the Board and the management, I extend our heartfelt condolences and deepest sympathies to the bereaved family. As we begin the new financial year, I am pleased to share that the company has started on a very strong note. JGC delivered its best ever quarterly performance in Q1 FY '27, continuing the strong momentum established in FY '26. We witnessed strong demand across our end-user application with revenue, EBITDA and PAT each reaching all-time new highs quarterly. This performance reflects disciplined execution and favorable demand conditions, and we are also seeing this momentum continue into the current quarter as we sail through that. Let me take you through the key operational and strategic developments. By way of a brief introduction of our company, J.G. Chemicals Limited is the largest zinc oxide manufacturer in India and also the country's largest zinc recycler. Globally, we count ourselves amongst the top 5 zinc oxide producers. Our product today finds application across a wide spectrum of industries, including rubber, tire, ceramics, paints, coatings, pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, agriculture, electronics, EVs and also a wide range of specialty chemical applications. Today, our customer franchise extends to more than 200 domestic customers and over 50 international customers. And we are proud today to supply to every Indian major tire manufacturer and also to 9 out of the top world's 10 global tire companies. Our manufacturing is anchored at our facilities in West Bengal and Andhra Pradesh, which together today command an installed capacity of close to 70,000 metric tonnes per annum. With the addition of Gujarat project targeted for commissioning in Q3 FY '27 and once both phases of the Dahej plant are on stream, our combined zinc chemical capacity will exceed 115,000 metric tonnes per annum, a scale that would position us amongst the top 3 zinc chemical producers globally. Let me now take you through some other strategic developments of the quarter. As far as product development and R&D is concerned, tailor-made product development remains a cornerstone of our business, with over 90 specialized grades of zinc oxide developed to meet diverse customer requirements. During this quarter, we introduced a new grade, which is called the LabPure zinc oxide, a high-purity grade for analytical reagent application. We also introduced JG-ZRA, a zinc oxide rubber activator designed for specific non-tire customer requirements with strong demand and export potential. We are also at an advanced stage of acquiring a patent for another chemical jointly developed with the premier research institute in India, offering improved processability, superior cure characteristics and also easy handling. Further strengthening our innovation capabilities, recently, the R&D center at our Naidupeta plant was inaugurated, supporting new product development, polymer testing and enhanced product quality across the rubber, cosmetic, agriculture and other end-user industries. Coming to sustainability, our Naidupeta facility continues to be a structural differentiator being the only IATF-certified zinc oxide facility and also holding WHO GMP accreditation along with several Pharmacopoeia certifications. Sustainability and circularity remain deeply embedded in our operations with our recycled zinc-led model well positioned as the tire industry sharpens its focus on green chemicals. Phase 1 of our Naidupeta solar power project is operational with further ESG initiatives under evaluation. The brownfield expansion at our Naidupeta facility is also progressing well in parallel, and we expect to commission that also in the Q3 of the current financial year. Coming to recycled rubber project. The recycled rubber project has now been branded as JG TUR, which means tire upscaled rubber. The pilot trials have received a very good response from our key customers, and we are working with them to further enhance product development and optimization. In parallel, the company is also working on a detailed commercial plan for the project with CapEx, capacity, time lines, and revenue potential, which shall be shared at an appropriate time. Coming to the Dahej greenfield capacity expansion in Gujarat, the company is progressing well with its 40,000-plus MTA (sic) [ MTPA ] zinc greenfield chemical facility in Dahej. The civil work is in advanced stages and equipment installation is already underway. With an investment of about INR 100 crores, the estimated revenue potential will be INR 900 crores. Phase 1 of the zinc oxide production is targeted for commissioning, as I mentioned, in Q3 FY '27. Once operational and stabilized, the facility will strengthen JGC's presence in Western India, enable deeper penetration into high-growth non-rubber segments such as ceramic, specialty chemicals, pharmaceuticals and agriculture. This will support further margin expansion through higher value-added products and improved product mix. Recently, the company has also proposed to incorporate BDJ Materials and Metal Trading FZCO in Dubai, UAE, which upon incorporation, will become a wholly owned subsidiary of BDJ Oxides Private Limited, a material subsidiary of J.G. Chemicals and consequently, a step-down wholly owned subsidiary of J.G. Chemicals Limited. The entity will focus on sourcing raw materials for the principal and also help in sale and distribution of finished goods in the global market, further strengthening the company's global reach and distribution capabilities for both selling and sourcing. Let me now share our perspectives on the industry that we operate in. As far as demand is concerned, our customers, the tire and the rubber remain the largest pillar of our business and demand momentum across the tire industry remained robust through the previous quarter and Q4 ending FY '26, and this has continued into the current quarter also. As per ATMA, the Q1 FY '27 saw volume growth across major vehicle categories: passenger vehicles growing up to 26.6%; 2-wheelers, 16.5%; commercial vehicles, 16.48%; and 3-wheelers more than 11% year-on-year. Strong demand from OEMs, coupled with healthy replacement demand, is expected to support future growth. We are also seeing a trend of several large OEMs expanding their production capacity in India to serve both the domestic and the export market. As far as the tire industry CapEx is concerned, Indian tire majors are expanding their capacities to cater to this demand with approximately INR 25,000 crores of CapEx already announced by leading tire manufacturers. And to this, roughly today, 25% of the tires produced in India are being exported. When the tire industry invests, J.G. Chemicals is a direct beneficiary and our customers today continue to operate at high capacity utilization, which is very encouraging. As far as raw material security is concerned, despite the ongoing global supply chain disruption, which has been quite severe over the last quarter because of the war, et cetera. However, JGC's scale, financial strength and the long-standing supplier relationships have ensured that your company has had uninterrupted supply of raw material, enabling us to maintain a continuous supply to our extremely wide customer base. As far as the non-rubber applications are concerned, outside the rubber and tire, we continue to see encouraging traction in the non-rubber segment such as pharmaceuticals, ceramics, specialty chemicals and agri. Our focus on product customization and customer-specific solution continues to strengthen these partnerships. However, a more meaningful step-up of our non-rubber share will come once Dahej facility is commissioned, given that a significant portion of non-rubber consumption is concentrated in the Western India, particularly the Gujarat belt. Taken as a whole, we remain extremely confident about the long-term prospects of the zinc chemicals business, supported by our deep customer relationships, continuous product innovation and sustainability-led approach. Going forward, our focus will remain on expanding our product portfolio, deepening our presence in domestic and global markets, diversifying customer application across end-user industries and also ramping up our zinc sulfate business and expanding into new geographies. Together with our capacity expansion road map, these initiatives position JG strongly to drive sustainable growth, enhance value creation and capture a significant share of the opportunity that lies ahead. With these opening remarks, I would now request our CFO, Mr. Anuj Jhunjhunwala, to take you through the financial highlights of the quarter. Over to you, Anuj.
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveThank you. Good morning once again, everyone. And I will now walk you through our financial performance for the first quarter of the current financial year. I'm pleased to share that in this current quarter, your company witnessed its highest ever quarterly sales, EBITDA and PAT. For Q1 FY '27, our consolidated revenue from operations stood at INR 315.7 crores, registering a year-on-year growth of 44.8% and increasing 10.3% sequentially over Q4 FY '26. This strong performance during the quarter was driven by favorable demand conditions across our end-user application and supported by disciplined execution. We are continuing to witness strong demand in the current quarter as well and expect higher sales in the current quarter. These factors collectively enhanced operated leverage and supported the movement in EBITDA margins as well. The EBITDA for the current quarter was INR 36.3 crores with a margin of 11.5% as compared to 10.64% in the corresponding quarter last year. The PAT for the quarter was INR 26.1 crores with a PAT margin of 8.27% as compared to 7.52% in Q1 FY '26. As we had mentioned earlier, the ongoing geopolitical conflict had impacted global supply chains for zinc dross, which is our primary raw material, but the company's strong supply chain relationships has ensured continuous supply of its key raw material and fulfilling all its customer requirements. We remain optimistic that the demand momentum will sustain throughout the year. And with the new greenfield Gujarat plant and the Naidupeta brownfield capacities getting commissioned in Q3, JGC remains well entrenched to cater to the increased demand going forward. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and we would like to now open the floor for the Q&A session.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We take the first question from the line of Harsh Motika from SKP Securities Limited.
Harsh Motika
analystCongratulations on a record quarter. Sir, while we do see that the revenue has grown by 44-odd percent Y-o-Y, can you please point out how the utilization stood during the quarter? And what sort of volume growth did we witness across our product categories?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo the utilization levels are in early 80s right now as we speak, and the volume growth was in double digits for the current quarter.
Harsh Motika
analystSir, when you say double digits, is it across categories? Or is it largely for zinc oxide?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveAcross categories. When we say this, it's generally across categories.
Harsh Motika
analystOkay. And sir, as far as EBITDA is concerned, we've again had a record EBITDA this quarter and a great margin at 10.6%. But how much of this can be attributed to the inventory gains that the management had been pointing out for the past quarters? And how much of this is reversible?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo you see, we have always maintained that in our industry, the EBITDA margins would be in the range of 10% to 12%. And going forward, we will have higher margins because of higher value-added products. And even in the current quarter, as we speak, the share of specialized applications and higher-priced customer orders has increased. So it is a function of operating leverage. It is a function of higher priced and higher-margin orders and plus a small amount of inventory gains, which accrued during the current quarter. I would say, structurally, our EBITDA should be in this range going forward. And as we've just highlighted a short while back, with the launch of newer products and more customized applications, the margins should inch up going forward.
Harsh Motika
analystOkay. And sir, on the CapEx side, so the Dahej plant is supposed to come up in Q3 of this year, as per the presentation. So sir, should we expect this to come up early in Q3? Or will it be more towards the end of the calendar year?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveI would say it will be sometime in November would be a good estimate.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Vinit Thakur from Plus91 Asset Management.
Vinit Thakur
analystCongratulations for getting good sets of numbers. I have few set of questions. How has JGC started seeding the ceramic market ahead of Dahej commission?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveYes. So as we mentioned earlier also, the company has been seeding the ceramic market for the last year or so or maybe slightly more. And we are well -- we've already established good customer relationships. Now it is only dependent on the facility there. Once the facility starts, we expect that the ramp-up of production to the ceramic business should go up quite quickly. So we've already started to seed the market, and we are seeing encouraging results because customers there are also looking for us to set up a facility there and service them more closely.
Vinit Thakur
analystOkay. And how long does customer approvals typically take in ceramic industries? And how is the ceramic approval process compared to the tire industry?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo as we mentioned earlier also, we've already started to seed the market. So customers are aware of us. Relationships have already been established. And as far as your specific question, which relates to the difference in the approval process between, say, a tire and a ceramic. So a ceramic approval process is fairly quicker. It should be roughly in the range of 1 to 3 months. It should be possible, more so because we've already established customer contact from before.
Vinit Thakur
analystOkay. And approval process comes to tire industry?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveTire industry remains to approximately 5 years. Approval process is in the tire industry.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of [ Disha ] from Sapphire Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystAm I audible, sir?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveYes, please.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo sir, you mentioned the volume growth this quarter has been double digits. So sir, we've seen a fair increase in our realizations. So do we expect these realizations to sustain? And when do we expect this normalization to begin?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveI think this is the new normal in terms of realizations because the prices of all commodities have increased. Zinc has also gone up in Q1. And I don't see any reason why commodity prices would go down in the near future. I would say this would be the new normal going ahead.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd sir, what was in the -- will it be possible for you to quantify the inventory gain that we had this quarter?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveNo, it's difficult for us to quantify this number, but I would say it's not been that significant. I mean the margin improvement is a function of a lot of other factors, which I outlined earlier.
Unknown Analyst
analystBecause of the higher price orders and the increase in the specialized applications, I think these were the reasons.
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveAnd the current quarter is also seeing the same traction.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. That is very good to hear, sir. So also, the Dahej plant, which you're expecting to come up in November, just wanted to understand a bit more on the ramp-up. What sort of utilization are we targeting for this year and for the next year?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveThis year, if you assume about 3, 4 months of utilization, obviously, the utilization numbers would not be very high vis-a-vis the capacity. But I would say when we talk about next financial year, which is the first full year of operation, we should be looking at minimum 50% to 60%.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd the next -- and FY '29, we'll expect to reach the peak?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveI mean, ideally, yes. And then we would start the Phase 2 expansion.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. So any sort of color if you can provide us, to how much capacity you'll be adding? Or is it too early to comment on that end?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveNo, we've already indicated that the total capacity that is being added is about 40,000 tonnes. And in the first phase, it would be in the range of 15,000 to 17,000 tonnes.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. And sir, with this -- the margin expansion that you said because of the higher value-added products, we expect the margins to go up to 13% to 14%. Can we expect to reach this mark by FY '29?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveYes, I think so.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of [ Bimal Panchal ] from [ Bimal Panchal & Associates ].
Unknown Analyst
analystCongratulations for the good set of numbers. One of the prominent shareholder is Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Can you tell us how they have acquired shares of our company?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveCould you repeat your question again?
Unknown Analyst
analystOne of the prominent shareholders in FII category is Massachusetts Institute of Technology. So can you just tell us how they have acquired? What is the story behind how they acquired?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveThey were one of the anchor investors in the IPO. So they have been invested in the company since day 1.
Unknown Analyst
analystThey are anchor investors. Okay. Okay, now what will be the payback period for the Dahej project and what is the expected ROI?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveUsually, in our company, we always look at a payback period of 3 to 4 years. And I think in the past, we have always been able to achieve that. So going forward, our target for the Dahej plant as well as other CapEx plans that are currently being contemplated is in the range of 3 to 4 years mostly.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd what is the expected ROCEs from that?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo ROCE would -- the ROCEs would be in the mid-20s. So basically, if you want a payback in 4 years, [Foreign Language] you'll get the payback.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And what is the company's volume growth outlook for the current year?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveAs we've indicated, the volume growth has been in mid-teens for the current quarter.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Deepesh J. Sancheti from Maanya Finance.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystAm I audible?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveYes, please.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystYes. Okay, how much additional capacity will be unlocked through the Naidupeta debottlenecking? And what is the CapEx being done for the same? And how much is left to be done?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo the total capacity being added is about 5,000 tonnes. On the exact CapEx figure, I need to check because a lot of utilities, et cetera, have been already been created beforehand. And over the last few years, we've been building certain capabilities every year. So exactly the number, I'll need to check and come back to you.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystOkay. And what is the utilization which is expected at Dahej in FY '28? And how quickly can Dahej ramp up to its fully achievable capacity?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo I just mentioned in the previous question that in FY '28, we expect a utilization of 50% to 60% minimum. And the following year, we expect to be in the 70s range. And by then, we would start the expansion of Phase 2. So every year, we'll keep on adding capacity depending on market situation.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystRight. And with these higher prices of zinc specifically, how does it affect our EBITDA margin? Or what is the effect of this volatility?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo we are neutral to zinc prices, if you ask me, honestly. So whether zinc is at $3,000 or $3,500 or $3,600, it really doesn't matter to us.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystRight. And how do you plan to leverage the certificates to expand into pharma and specialty chemicals?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo our plants over the years, we've acquired these certificates. And once our foray happens into Gujarat and with the Dahej facility also, we would have these certifications. So basically, these certifications create a differentiation factor. So when the customer in India, he does not have option to deal with zinc oxide producers with these certifications. So obviously, the level of confidence increases. More so these certifications also come in use for global exports because those companies are surely looking at these, and these are the minimum benchmarks they create to approve a supplier.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystRight. And what is the percentage of exports of your total sales?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveToday, it would be between 10% and 15%.
Deepesh J. Sancheti
analystAnd going ahead, maybe FY '28, '29, once the capacities actually come in?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveWe look at similar, about 15% and try to inch up.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Jayam Birawat from YES Securities.
Jayam Birawat
analystA couple of questions from my end. Firstly, how much capacity is expected to come in the Phase 1 of the Dahej project? And what will be its contribution to the margins once it's operational?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executivePhase 1, as I just mentioned in the previous question, would be in the range of 15,000 to 17,000 tonnes per annum. And the revenue potential would be in the range of INR 300 crores to INR 400 crores and the EBITDA margins that we expect to generate from that project would be in the 11% to 12% range.
Jayam Birawat
analystOkay. Okay. And can you please help me with the CapEx number for the Q1 and how much CapEx will be done in the remaining 9 months of FY '27?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveI'll come back to you offline on the number. I don't have the number readily available with me on the exact CapEx, which has been done in this current quarter.
Jayam Birawat
analystOkay. Okay. And for the 9 months of '27? Remaining 9 months?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveI'll come back to you offline on both these numbers.
Jayam Birawat
analystOkay. Okay. Okay, no worries. Secondly, I wanted to understand like what EBITDA margins can the company achieve as the share of value-added products increases going forward?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo going forward, our target would be to get to an EBITDA margin level of about 14% to 15% with the higher share of value-added products that we are foraying into now.
Jayam Birawat
analystOkay. Okay. And last question from my end. What's the company's long-term strategy for increasing the contribution from the non-rubber applications segment?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo as we've always maintained that rubber and tire continues to be our mainstay, and this is a good segment to operate. So the company would be taking all efforts to increase and keep harnessing the potential of this sector. But at the same time, the Indian market is witnessing and also throwing open a lot of other sectors, which are more value accretive. And the company is -- this Gujarat facility is very well positioned to capture that demand. So moving forward, with the starting of the Gujarat facility, this segment will grow probably at a much faster pace than the rubber and the tire. And hence, the overall contribution of non-rubber segment will be higher than what it is today. Plus the company is also foraying into new products like we just mentioned, which is about devulc rubber, et cetera. So these would obviously be in the tire and the rubber segment, but it would be a completely different line of the business. So it will be very different from zinc oxide. So those -- as I mentioned, rubber and tire will grow, but because other segments are also growing very well in India, our overall share of that segment will increase going forward.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Vinit Thakur from Plus91 Asset Management.
Vinit Thakur
analystYes. So what are the key operational challenges in scaling a ceramic business? And at what utilization level did JG consider further capacity expansion?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveThere are no real challenges for the ceramic applications because as I mentioned, we're already seeding the market, and it's a grade which is not difficult considering our expertise in the zinc oxide manufacturing. We've been doing this for decades and the product portfolio that we currently have, we are making much, much higher grades than the ceramic grades. So this will not be a challenge. And as we've always maintained that once we hit the late 70s and early 80s is the time when we start looking at further CapEx.
Vinit Thakur
analystOkay. And what is the expected customer mix at Dahej facility?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSorry? Come again?
Vinit Thakur
analystWhat is the expected customer mix?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo we will continue to cater to the tire industry, the ceramic industry, the agriculture, the specialty chemicals. It will be a mix of everything because Gujarat has very large customers in all segments, but tire would be about 60% of it and 40% would be others. Just to give you an indication, 2 of the largest tire companies in India are located at a distance of less than 10 to 15 kilometers from our plant. So obviously, tire would continue to be an important contributor.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Deep Gandhi from ithoughtpms.
Deep Gandhi
analystCongratulations on great numbers. So first is, I mean, as you mentioned that the reason for margin improvement was higher share of non-rubber this year. So I mean, if you can quantify what was the percentage share of non-rubber in this quarter and the same number for last quarter and last year same quarter. So just to understand the delta.
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveThis quarter, the share of non-rubber would be close to 18% or so. I don't have the exact number available for the previous quarter. But as we've guided earlier, gradually, this number is inching up. Every quarter, year-on-year, we see the non-rubber share increasing because the markets are getting created in India, the demand from those segments is coming fresh. So we are seeing that increasing going ahead.
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveOne thing which we would like to mention, which probably we haven't touched base here is that every crisis throws over an opportunity. The last quarter was definitely a difficult quarter in terms of the geopolitical situation, the cost push that happened in terms of energy, raw material, et cetera. So these are the times when the tough gets going. And I think as a company, we've taken very strong initiatives over the last 3 months in order to cut costs, in order to more cost optimization. So those efforts have also yielded results. And the inch up in the margins that you see in the current quarter, a good part of that is also due to the cost initiatives that the company has taken. And the good part about these initiatives are that once it's on board, these are more sustainable in nature and these last through, and they are not dependent on any short-term gains. So these accrue over a longer period of time and continue to do so.
Deep Gandhi
analystSure. And sir, I mean, in this quarter, there was almost 6%, 7% increase in zinc prices on a quarter-on-quarter basis. And if I look at the zinc prices, they have further increased from June to August. I mean, they increased almost 6%, 7% -- further 6%, 7% increase. So I mean, can we expect higher inventory gains in Q2 compared to the number which we saw in Q1? Q1, you mentioned the -- it was very miniscule. But in Q2, can we expect higher inventory gains?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveAs we said, the numbers are a mix of various things. And without saying too much about it, I would like to say that the current quarter is also experiencing similar margin profile and numbers that should come out.
Deep Gandhi
analystOkay. And sir, I mean, third is on the rubber recycling project. If you can give us some more clarity, I mean, if you can share some tentative numbers around the CapEx, what potential you are seeing? And what are the time lines? I mean, because we've been -- I think we've been very positive about it for last 2, 3 quarters now. So if you can give us some more clarity here.
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveAs we have mentioned to you before that any product development or if you were even trying to introduce a new producer to the tire and rubber sector, it is usually not a very short-term project. This takes time. But because we already have very established relationships with our customers, our process is moving fast. Customers have tried our material from the pilot scale. They've been happy. They've suggested we are working very closely with them in order to formulate the product, which is as per their requirement. So hopefully, these things are now done. And now we would be looking at working parallelly for setting up the commercial scale. And we hope that in the next 12 months, we should be able to commercially start this project. And then the ramp-up should be good because there is an imminent need for the tire business and the tire industry in general to look for recycling alternatives. So this product that we are doing currently is a very, very good option in terms of the tire industry to increase the recyclable content. Zinc oxide, what we do is anyways recycled. So they are very happy that whatever zinc oxide they use, we are now targeting 100% recyclable content. This rubber that we are developing is also from 100% recycled rubber. So this will also be a great initiative for the tire industry in terms of their ESG commitments and their commitments to increase the recyclable content. So we expect faster traction in this product because it's simple. When the customer needs something, the things move faster than when you need the customer.
Deep Gandhi
analystSure. Sir, last question on the 2 guidances. So I mean, till last quarter, we had guided that in FY '28, the utilization of Dahej plant will be 65%, 70%, but we've slightly reduced it to 50%, 60% now. So clarity on that. And secondly, on the margins, our guidance was 13%, 14% EBITDA, but we've slightly inched that up to 14%, 15%. So I mean, if you can help us understand what is driving the changes in both these guidances?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveGuidance as far as the next financial year is concerned, we are still maintaining close to 50% to 60%. Obviously, we had earlier envisaged the project to start in the first half of the current financial year. Now it is starting in the third quarter. So accordingly, we like to give a conservative approach. So we should -- we would still be targeting close to 60%. But for conservatism, let us put it at between 50% and 60%.
Deep Gandhi
analystAnd sir, on the margins?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveMargins, as our CFO just mentioned, it would be approximately close to 14% EBITDA because stronger products are being developed. And over the last quarter, we've also invested, as we said, and come out with 1 or 2 new products. And another product is also on the anvil in which we are expecting the patent to come very soon. So these products would obviously lead to higher realization and hence, the small increase in the EBITDA percentage that we are targeting.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of [ Ashish Soni ] from Family Office.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, higher EBITDA, you said it will be contributing from the new Dahej plant for which particular sectors will it be applicable? And any customer profile you can share?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveThe EBITDA would be on a consolidated company level and due to operating leverage and various other factors that we've guided. It's not that the Dahej plant is the only plant where the EBITDA margins would be 14%, 15%. Overall, the margin mix on a consolidated basis would inch up to that number.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo that's fine. But which sectors will be contributing more to that is what -- or the products in for which sectors is what I'm interested in?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executivePharma, specialty chemicals, cosmetic, certain electronic applications, these would be the sectors which would lead to higher margin profile.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd Dahej facility, full capacity utilization by FY '29 is the realistic assumption?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveAbsolutely. We would inch up to close to 80%, and that is where we would go in for the next phase of expansion.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And again, it will be on more higher value-added products. Is that understanding correct?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveYes. Our expansions, our product mix is always a mix of all the things. It is not that the entire product will be only on higher margin. It will be a mix of all products.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And your Naidupeta plant is IATF approved. So what does it help you and which particular -- because it's one of the only global, what I read from your PPT. So where does it help you exactly in what sort of end-user customer industries?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo this is mainly helpful in the tire business. So it is a requirement for the tire companies to be IATF Tier 1 suppliers to the automobile companies. For the Tier 2 suppliers, it is currently not mandatory. But however, any tire company when it's evaluating its vendor base, they appreciate a supplier of theirs being IATF. So this gives them more confidence. And I think this is one of the reasons why they are able to place larger share of business on us because they see that being an IATF is not an easy thing because ultimately, they themselves are IATF and they understand the rigors behind it. So they appreciate us being there.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of CA Garvit Goyal from Serene Alpha.
Garvit Goyal
analystAm I audible?
Operator
operatorYes.
Garvit Goyal
analystI have 2 questions. One is to understand particularly on the new CapEx that we are expecting to be commercialized in Q3, right? I just wanted to understand how fast can we ramp up on that facility?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveThe Q3, the project would get commissioned, and we expect to reach a utilization level of 50% to 60% in FY '28. And FY '29, we expect to reach up to about 80% -- 70% to 80%. And by then, we would have started the Phase 2 construction as well for the project.
Garvit Goyal
analystOkay. And you mentioned the current growth momentum is likely to be there in the current quarter. I just wanted to understand about its sustainability in the coming quarters, maybe in Q3 and Q4. How do you look at it?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo structurally, India is doing well. The automobile business is doing well, and hence, the tire and rubber is doing well. Apart from that, even whether you take the ceramic business, you take the pharma business or you take any other business, today, as an economy, India is doing well in terms of manufacturing and the demand in terms of even the consumer products is very good. So we are very hopeful that this demand scenario should continue in the next part of the year also. I mean after the GST reforms, et cetera, I think as a country, we have structurally moved ahead. And I think the demand scenario is quite good and very favorable currently.
Garvit Goyal
analystAnd just one more clarification, maybe I missed earlier, you must have covered it. The current quarter margins, which are at 11%, do you see them to sustain?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo as we have mentioned that the momentum which has come in the last quarter should continue in the current quarters also.
Garvit Goyal
analystNo, I'm asking from the perspective of an organization, the way we are going, right, the kind of product mix we do have. Looking at that, are these margins structurally going to be there maybe for this year or next year? That's what I'm trying to understand.
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveThe current year, we expect the margins to remain this. And in going forward in the following years, as we have mentioned, we expect margins to inch up further because by then, Gujarat would be in its full year of operation. And on a stand-alone basis, the Gujarat plant would be higher-margin business. So blended EBITDA should also go up.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Shreyans Jain from 3A Capital Services.
Shreyans Jain
analystAm I audible, sir?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveYes.
Operator
operatorShreyans, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but your audio is not too loud. Could you please use your handset?
Shreyans Jain
analystYes. Is it better now? So has the current geopolitical scenario where sourcing has become difficult helped market leader like us? And have we observed shift from unorganized to organized market?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo you very rightly pointed out, I mean, every crisis also throws an opportunity, and you've rightly hit the nail on the head that for an established player like us who has muscle power in terms of financial strength and also the supplier reach, this situation has helped customers place more confidence on us vis-a-vis maybe the -- I would not say unorganized, but slightly less organized. And to a certain extent, also the unorganized segment because this current quarter was characterized by a lot of supply chain constraints. So obviously, our customers were working very well. Their plants were running at almost full capacity. So obviously, their confidence in dealing with a vendor like JGC goes up quite a bit because we know our reach in the global market.
Shreyans Jain
analystGreat to hear that. Sir, my next question is, are we looking to sell our products directly to ceramics, pharma, specialty chemical players as we did in tire? Or we sell our products via distributors?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveOur aim is always to be direct to the customer, and we will continue to do that. And I would expect close to 90% of the new sales also to be driven directly from us directly to the customer.
Shreyans Jain
analystOkay. And could you please provide a capacity breakup of 15,000 to 16,000 that we are expanding between zinc oxide and zinc sulfate and other allied chemicals?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo currently, the 15,000 to 18,000, which Anuj just mentioned some time back, is purely zinc oxide that we are talking of.
Shreyans Jain
analystOkay. And just one last question. Could you please provide revenue breakup between zinc oxide and zinc sulfate in FY '26?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo the revenue for zinc sulfate is less than 5%. I don't have the exact number with me, but it's less than about 5% to 6% of the overall sales.
Operator
operatorWe take the next question from the line of Deep Gandhi from ithoughtpms.
Deep Gandhi
analystSo sir, as you were mentioning that we are already at 80% utilization and the new plant is only going to come in November. So I mean, in Q2 and part of Q3, are you confident of seeing double-digit volume growth or the growth will be slightly more driven by value?
Anuj Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo when we say 80%, we mean 80% of the achievable capacity. So we still have room to increase our capacity from the 80s to the 100% level. So we are not talking about on the installed capacity. We talk about the achievable capacity. So I think we should be easily able to ramp up our capacities and ramp up our production as and when required from the customers. And through debottlenecking and through improved efficiencies, the productivity per lines have also been increased in the last few years.
Deep Gandhi
analystSure, sir. And sir, just last question. I mean, we've talked about quite a few new products in this quarter's presentation like LabPure, ZRA. So if you can give us some sense about the market size of this product, what is the export potential? And what kind of margins do we make in such kind of niche products?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo these products would be mainly targeted to the non-tire customer and for exports also to the non-tire rubber applications as far as ZRA is concerned. These products are slightly higher margin accretive because there are not many people making this. And this is fulfilling certain needs of the customer. I would -- let's put it this way, that this is fulfilling certain issues which the customer faces in its operational process, and we would try to solve their -- identify and solve their problems. So when you're solving somebody's problem, it is always a happy scenario for both the seller and the buyer. So in that sense, these products should be there -- again, they are niche products. They will take time to ramp up, but we expect that once it enters the customer's home, then it remains sticky in nature and the customer will be kind of compelled to use this going forward.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, we take the last question from the line of [ Lakshmikant ], an individual investor.
Unknown Analyst
analystAm I audible?
Operator
operatorYes.
Unknown Analyst
analystI have a couple of questions. Like, what will be the strategy for development of products such as sodium sulfate -- sorry, zinc sulfate. What will be the future growth plan with regarding such specialized products, which you think will be driving the growth of the company?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSo zinc sulfate is one of those products that you're speaking about. As far as zinc sulfate in particular is concerned, the Southern India market continues to be attractive. There are no large players in that market. And so we will continue to grow that business in South India. At the same time, as you may be aware, that one of the raw materials for the zinc sulfate, which is the major raw material, is a byproduct of our zinc oxide business. So structurally, it is important for us to do this also in Western India. So going forward, we will also try to capture the market in the Western India because of easy availability of raw material through our own process of zinc oxide in the Dahej plant. So this business will continue to grow along with the zinc oxide business. And this gives us complete circularity. So in terms of whatever waste our zinc oxide business generates gets consumed internally for our zinc sulfate business. So inherently, the raw material advantage in our zinc sulfate business from day 1 starts because it's a waste from our previous process.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo what role will the R&D and customized products play in getting market share, you see?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveSee, I mean, I will be honest that products like the ZRA, products that we are working on in which we are expecting the patent very soon and also TUR, et cetera, these are all result of our R&D efforts. And going forward, we are strengthening our R&D team further. So as and when you create differentiated products, which are more higher technical technology in nature, then those are definitely going to be more sticky with the customer. So our focus, I would say, in the last 1 to 2 years has increased on more R&D capabilities. And hence, we will continue to focus on this.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo you mean to say the specialized and high-performance products will continue to drive growth -- future growth of the company, right?
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveAbsolutely. That is what the aim is today.
Operator
operatorThank you. Ladies and gentlemen, with that, we conclude the question-and-answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Anirudh Jhunjhunwala for the closing remarks.
Anirudh Jhunjhunwala
executiveLadies and gentlemen, thank you once again for joining us today and for your continued interest in the company. I would like to thank our Board of Directors for their guidance, our employees for their dedication, our customers for their continued trust, and our investors for their unwavering confidence in the company. If you should have any further questions, please feel free to reach out to our Investor Relations team at Go India Advisors. We appreciate your participation and your continued support. Thank you, and have a very great day.
Operator
operatorThank you, sir. On behalf of SKP Securities Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.
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