Jazz Pharmaceuticals plc (JAZZ) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

March 4, 2024

NASDAQ US Health Care Pharmaceuticals conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Joseph Thome

analyst
#1

Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone, for joining us here today at our 44th Annual TD Cowen Healthcare Conference. I'm Joe Thome, one of the senior biotech analysts here on the team at TD Cowen, and it's my pleasure to have with me the team from Jazz Pharmaceuticals. We have Chairman and CEO, Bruce Cozadd; the Executive Vice President and Global Head of R&D, Rob Iannone; the business unit head of the Sleep division, P.J. Honerkamp; and the business unit head of the HemOnc franchise, Abizer Gaslightwala. So maybe Bruce, if you want to kick things off, it would be great to begin with just a brief overview of the company's recent progress and maybe some of your highlighted goals for 2024.

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#2

Great. Well, thanks for the invitation to be here. We appreciate it. I just want to say the majority of our Executive Committee is female. So I don't know how we happen to end up with an all-male panel today, just happenstance. Before I get into remarks, just a reminder, see our SEC filings for risk factors, see our website for a reconciliation of any of our non-GAAP figures to GAAP. And if I refer to guidance, it's as of the update we gave on our fourth quarter call on February 28. Just a couple of words, and I'm going to use the mic right now because you're going to ask questions, and they're going to answer all of them. So this is my only shot. We had a great year in 2023, really good growth from the business, over $3.8 billion in revenues, our first $1 billion quarter in the fourth quarter. And importantly, our 3 growth drivers: Xywav, Epidiolex and Rylaze together grew 27% for the year. We're also seeing increased diversification of our business in the fourth quarter. More than half of our revenues came from Epidiolex in our oncology business, and only 14% of our revenues came from high sodium oxybate. That's the combination of Xyrem sales and royalties on AG Xyrem. As we head into 2024, we gave guidance of $4 billion to $4.2 billion in revenues. That's about 7% at the midpoint growth rate, so an acceleration of our growth rate. And we're expecting, again, great growth for our key drivers: Xywav, Epidiolex and Rylaze. They should grow double digits combined. We also think our oncology business will grow double digits. And we think we're on track for our Vision 2025 revenue estimates with the Sleep business annualizing at over $1.9 billion, Epidiolex annualizing at over $900 million based on the fourth quarter and continuing to grow nicely in the U.S. and ex-U.S. So that's on track to be a blockbuster product. And then the oncology business, north of $1 billion for the first time in 2023 and continuing to grow with Zanidatamab being a 2025 or earlier launch and the potential to move Zepzelca into frontline and small cell lung cancer. On the R&D side, we've got some upcoming milestones we're pretty excited about. We've already started the rolling BLA for Zanidatamab in second-line BTC. We said we'll finish that in the first half of this year. And then we're expecting GEA pivotal data coming out toward the end of the year. We've also got a Phase III reading out on Epidiolex in Japan and then the frontline combination data with Tecentriq for Zepzelca in small cell lung cancer, either early -- either late this year or early next year. So a lot coming up on the R&D side. And then I'll just end with we're in a strong financial position with $1.6 billion in cash and investments at the end of the year. Good cash flow, $1.1 billion for 2023. So we're well positioned to continue being active on the corporate development side. And if you look at some of the recent transactions we've done, I'd point you towards Zepzelca and Zanidatamab. We're really pleased with the way those are playing out for the company. So excited to talk about the future as well, Joe.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#3

Great. Excellent.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#4

And you did release the 2024 revenue guidance of between $4 billion and $4.2 billion. A large portion of that is on the neuroscience business. Maybe we'll start with the sleep side because that's a big investor focus. I guess with the launch of Xywav in narcolepsy and IH, I guess in your guidance, what's sort of the expectation overall for growth there? And then maybe how are you factoring in Avadel's continued launch and obviously, the generic as well?

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#5

Yes. So we were really pleased to see great growth in Xywav, 33% growth last year despite the introduction of some new oxybate products with the AG generic and the Lumryz product. We remain the only low sodium product on the market, and we think that's really important. We did point out that our royalty rate on AG Xyrem increased significantly on January 1. So for the first time, we gave guidance that we expect over $200 million in royalty income for the year. But with Xywav at $1.35 billion annualized and growing nicely, we particularly want people to focus on the IH growth opportunity. It's not that we're not continuing to invest behind narcolepsy. We are, and we're still seeing growth there. But if you think about IH as a brand-new indication, the only product with an IH indication early on in the penetration of that market, we've got a big market growth opportunity where we're the only product. Narcolepsy growth is a little more mature. It's still growing, but not as fast, and we're not the only product. So we're differentially investing in the opportunity in IH.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#6

And maybe on the IH part because you did mention that this is a huge growth opportunity for 2024 and you're putting resources behind that. Maybe, can you walk us through, maybe some of the key inflection points going forward? What are you doing from that perspective? And then maybe just talk a little bit about patient finding for IH. What has been hard? What have you been successful at?

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#7

Yes. P.J.?

P.J. Honerkamp

executive
#8

Yes. It's the first and only drug approved for idiopathic hypersomnia. We're really pleased where Xywav is. It's not narcolepsy as you can see from the failure of the pitolisant trial and we've seen really strong uptick. And what we're really focused on is driving on both breadth and depth. And to do that, we've increased our sales force to address the IH population. Over 70% of our doctors have indicated that they're going to increase their prescribing of oxybate in IH over the next 6 months. And so we continue to educate them, both on the foundation of the strong clinical data, both in excessive daytime sleepiness for the treatment of idiopathic hypersomnia, but also a lot of the secondary symptoms, which prior to Xywav being available, they really weren't focused on. And so really looking at the breadth of the disease and seeing real strong uptake from physicians right now.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#9

And the patients that you do find, are all patients eligible and should be on chronic therapy for treatment? Or kind of how do doctors make that decision? And what are you telling them?

P.J. Honerkamp

executive
#10

Yes. So again, I think most of the focus has been on excess daytime sleepiness because that's sort of what the patient presents with initially. And it's really sort of opening up the aperture for the doctor to understand that there's so much more going on. These are patients that sleep and they sleep a lot and they have what sleep inertia is probably one of the hallmark symptoms that you see with these patients. So unlike narcoleptics, that are in and out of sleep over a 24-hour period, these people sleep for long periods of time, but they have a really hard time getting up. I always think about story of one MIT student. And his last alarm was a water gun that would shoot him in the face to wake him come up. And so giving an agent at night really helps with that drive in the morning and helps get them up, and we saw that from the secondary endpoints in the trial on the IHSS. You see that dramatic improvement in sleep inertia, which was so important.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#11

Perfect. And then maybe the other component of the narcolepsy for the neuroscience franchise is on the Epidiolex side of things. Maybe what does continued expansion look like in Epidiolex? I know you mentioned ex-U.S. We have the Japan studies reading out. Maybe you can talk about how big that opportunity is?

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#12

Yes. So Epidiolex grew 15% last year, and that growth is coming both in the U.S. and ex-U.S. Ex-U.S., we're a little bit earlier in that launch cycle than we are in the U.S. We're still rolling it out in additional markets. We've got 35 ex-U.S. markets already approved. We're continuing to launch in all of those markets and get reimbursement in those markets. Japan, in particular, represents probably the second largest market behind the U.S. for Epidiolex. We estimate there are between 17,000 and 22,000 patients across the three indications: Dravet, LGS and TSC in Japan. The clinical trial is enrolled very well. So we know there's interest in having a new mechanism of action to treat these very serious childhood onset seizure disorders. In terms of continued growth, we see optimized dosing. So people realizing that if you can get to higher doses of Epidiolex, you get more efficacy with excellent tolerability and durability of treatment. We've got great data going out 3 years that shows the magnitude of the benefit continues to increase. We're seeing increased use in the adult population. So I referred to childhood onset seizure disorders, but these people do grow up and require continuing treatment, and we're seeing more growth opportunity there. And then we're also seeing that we don't promote off-label. We're seeing increased use across other seizure types where there's good data on Epidiolex as a broad spectrum, antiseizure medication with a unique mechanism of action, good combinability with other agents and excellent tolerability.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#13

Perfect. And then maybe jumping a little bit to the pipeline, the sort of near-term readout in the back half of the first half of the year is the essential tremor program. Maybe if you could just talk a little bit on the supportive data that led you to start the Phase II with suvecaltamide? And maybe just a high level what the Phase II is going to be measuring?

Robert Iannone

executive
#14

Sure. So actually, we said first half of this year, we expect the results. So we're getting excited that, that's coming upon us. As you know, we in-licensed JZP385 after having seen the TCOM data. And from that, we really thought we had proof of concept. We also felt that having those data helped us really identify the right patient population that likely to respond and also with the FDA's input to refine the endpoints that we would measure. And I would say even how we measure those endpoints, so we get reliable data. We learn things around and say, the performance scale really requiring on-site local measurement rather than sort of third-party visual, because sometimes you have to ask patients to repeat a task or do it both hands, et cetera, et cetera and that's hard to do post-hoc remotely. So we learned quite a bit about how to set up the next trial. The trial that's ongoing is actually registrational. We consider it a Phase IIb. It has 3 different dose levels and is controlled for placebo. We have a once a night -- sorry, once daily formulation now. And one of the real differentiators for JZP385 is that it's a state-dependent modulator. And what that means is the potency for 385 is higher in those channels and pathways that are active in the brain, where it represents the disease sites for essential tremor. What that does ultimately is, we think, gives us a better therapeutic index. So that's allowed us to push the dose in the Phase IIb up to 30 milligrams, so 10, 20 and 30 milligrams once a day. So we think we have a highly differentiated molecule in a disease area where there's a high unmet need. I would say, 50 years since the last approval, but propranolol is not a particularly good drug. And so we also think we have a design that's based on prior data, and so quite excited to see those results.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#15

And we've seen other essential tremor therapies in development. Obviously, Praxis has their ulixacaltamide agent. Can you touch a little bit maybe on the differentiation between the two compounds? And is it on the compound itself? Or is it maybe some of the clinical trial components that you mentioned?

Robert Iannone

executive
#16

Yes, I would say probably both. And maybe just to mention that I do think the Praxis data lends some credence to the target that we are hitting the CAV3 target. But I think it's both, Joe. It's both in terms of how we've designed this trial, how we selected patients, what the endpoints are, how you measure the endpoints. But importantly, again, this is published, it's available in publication. The potency of JZP385 is really dependent on whether the calcium channels are active or inactive. And so that allows you to sort of have a more targeted drug that benefits patients in terms of the disrupted brain pathways around essential tremor, but less active in areas of normal brain.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#17

And then maybe hopping over to the oncology business. The guidance for 2024 is already essentially the 2025 component of the oncology side of being over $1 billion. I guess, first, what are the key growth drivers do you think over the next year? And then on the Rylaze side, I think that's one of the components that's obviously been growing very well. Obviously, we maybe, didn't know the peak opportunity because of some supply issues with the first kind of shot at this, but how big can Rylaze get?

P.J. Honerkamp

executive
#18

Sure. So just to speak that Rylaze is really happy and pleased being the non -- the only non-E.coli asparaginase approved in the U.S. Continue to see great growth. As you saw last year, we continue to expect growth this year, particularly driven by the adoption of this product in the pediatric setting and continued growth in, we call our adolescent young adult segment. We saw some growth last year. That's a big focus for us this year into that older segment. Again, using asparaginase Rylaze as an alternative to PEG-asparaginase and other products that are used in that setting to get the best outcome. I think we believe Rylaze will continue to be that growth driver for this year and moving into '25. We also have a rolling EU launch going on that started last year with Enrylaze, our product that was approved in Europe last year. Just to remind us, though, that the dynamics in Europe are a little bit different. There's a different competitive set. There's different pricing dynamics. So we do expect the U.S. to contribute the majority of our Rylaze franchise sales, but we see growth coming both U.S. and ex-U.S. I think we look about other growth drivers. We're really excited about, obviously, Zani, speak to that. We hope to have -- we're going to complete, as we said in the first half of the year, the BLA -- rolling BLA submission. We would love to get this product approved by the end of this year, maybe '25 in biliary tract. We have a -- Rob can speak to it, end-of-year readout on gastroesophageal cancer, which we're really excited about based on the preliminary data. And we've got a Zepzelca frontline setting that's going to read out, we think, by the end of this year, that will be a big growth driver for Zepzelca. Just to remind you Zepzelca is the #1 agent used in the second-line small cell lung cancer setting. We continue to see growth if you saw kind of our net sales in the fourth quarter, continued incremental growth. We think this frontline opportunity will be a big kind of inflection point for the product as well.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#19

Maybe we'll start there on the front line small cell study. I guess, what's sort of the accurate comparator for [indiscernible] what atezo would do alone? And maybe what's the bar for what you want to see on top of that to be commercially viable?

Robert Iannone

executive
#20

Sure. So this is published in the New England Journal of Medicine and atezolizumab certainly created an incremental benefit to patients. But I think a key message in that paper is that it's still a very poor prognosis disease. So median overall survival, about 13 months. Median progression-free survival, about 5.2 months in that paper. So a very poor prognosis. And interesting thing is these patients actually tend to respond pretty well to their upfront chemotherapy. The problem is they can't get it for long. They get about 4 cycles of platinum-based chemotherapy before they have to stop. And if you look at that New England Journal Paper, patients are relatively stable and then as soon as you stop their chemo, they drop off. So a key principle here is switch maintenance. Before these patients progress, switch them over to a drug that's highly active and can maintain that progression-free status. And so we think that Zepzelca is well suited for that because if you take patients who are not primarily resistant to platinum, those are the ones that tend to respond well to Zepzelca specially. So we think we can maintain these patients and really bend that curve. We only need PFS for approval. We know that from our FDA interactions provided that there's no negative trend on OS. So we think this is a high POS study where we're going up essentially against nothing. And the key thing for small cell is many patients when they progress, it's so rapid that they deteriorate quickly and never make it to second line where they are given something in second line, but it's just too late. And so it deteriorates the results. So we think you'll get more patients, you will get patients for a longer period of time, and we think you'll see a better benefit from Zepzelca given what I described and further more, there is emerging data that it will actually synergize with the atezolizumab. So we hope that ultimately, you might even see a benefit in overall survival over time.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#21

Perfect. And Zanidatamab has been an increased focus, it feels like for the company. Indicated on the last call, it could be a $2 billion asset. Maybe just to start, because obviously, BTC is going to be the first indication, hopefully approved. Can you just outline the commercial opportunity there for BTC and maybe where are you at with the rolling submission?

P.J. Honerkamp

executive
#22

Yes. I'll give updates on the commercial and turn to Rob for the kind of the filing and the timeline. So as we think about Zanidatamab, the $2 billion, how do we get there? Well, we haven't given specific guidance on exactly which indication, how much money. But just imagine concentric rings is the way we like to think about it. The epidemiology for HER2-positive biliary tract worldwide in the markets that we own. Again, remember, this is a U.S., Europe, Japan. We own global rights with the exception of 1 or 2 markets ex-U.S., 12,000 patients incident in HER2-positive biliary tract patients that we have an opportunity to go after. That's the first set. And we have compelling data. If you remember, biliary tract data was one of the best of ASCO's over June. We continue to see data that looks really promising. Stay tuned for more data that's going to come out later this year. And so, we feel really good about that opportunity in the second-line space in totality. The next kind of big ring is gastroesophageal cancer. We think about 63,000 patients HER2 positive worldwide. That's a 5x opportunity right there from biliary tract based on that population. That data is reading out at the end of this year, really exciting Phase II data that we think has a great opportunity to demonstrate consistent kind of efficacy and safety in the pivotal that we hope to see data by the end of this year. And then you think about breast cancer, obviously, big opportunity, 150,000 patients HER2 positive worldwide. That's the opportunity we're going after. Rob can speak to where we're thinking about that more to come in our R&D Day, but I'll turn it over to Rob.

Robert Iannone

executive
#23

Yes. I mean I do hope you come, listen-in to the March 19 R&D Day because we'll have a chance to really go in greater detail not only on the development plan, but also on the molecule itself. And there's a lot of data in the public domain right now. Actually, quite a bit more even since we did the deal. But the message I want to give you is Zanidatamab is highly differentiated. It's very different than any of the HER2 antibodies or therapies that have come before. Great publication in Nature Communications showing why this is. The biparatopic nature of it means that it binds 2 epitopes and necessarily has to bind different receptors. So much more effectively clusters receptors, interferes with signaling, causes down regulation and internalization, but further interferes with signaling and more effectively marks it for immune destruction. It's really the only antibody that induces complement fixation and complement dependent cytotoxicity. So there's a strong rationale for the mechanism. Preclinically, you see that when you dose it say, compared to combinations of antibodies like Herceptin-PERJETA, looks better preclinically. Clinically, it looks better. Our BTC data, over 40% response rate with more than a year of durability in those patients responding. It's unheard of for BTC. If you look at the combination of Herceptin-PERJETA in that same population from the MyPathway study, it's more like, I think, 23% or 24% and not that durable. So -- and then you can also look at the clinical data and activity after patients who immediately progressed on Herceptin-PERJETA are responding to Zanidatamab. Patients who progressed on an HER2 are also responding. So we would really love for you to get familiar with the data. And I would just emphasize that point about breast cancer. So why do we think we can compete in the breast cancer space? Well, first of all, it's a highly differentiated molecule, as I mentioned. But the breast cancer space is highly disrupted now, although there are a lot of HER2 therapies there. And HER2 is moving to frontline in all likelihood, and none of those other HER2 therapies have data showing efficacy after HER2. And there's reason to think there would be cross resistance. So there's an opportunity for Zanidatamab to get into breast cancer in a way that maybe there wasn't even 5 years ago. So we're excited to lean into that. And then as you just look across indications, this drug is active wherever HER2 is amplified or overexpressed, and call us of what other prior HER2 therapies they've gotten. So that's where we come up with that $2 billion plus.

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#24

I'll also just point out that at our R&D Day, we will have some external KOLs available to also talk about their experience with Zanidatamab.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#25

And then maybe for the BTC indication, if this does go forward and is approved, can you talk about maybe the sales force expansion or anything else that would need to happen? Or are you able to kind of leverage?

P.J. Honerkamp

executive
#26

Sure, happy to give some outline. So I think what we feel really confident about the $1 billion plus that we're generating in oncology is based on a really solid commercial infrastructure that we have, U.S., ex-U.S. as well. So we have a great solid tumor franchise with Zepzelca. Like I said, it's the #2 agent in small cell lung cancer. While in those clinics and those oncologists that treat lung cancer, they also treat GI cancers as well, like biliary tract or gastroesophageal. So we have the kind of footprint and the people and the team and experienced personnel, many of them [Technical Difficulty] HER2 agents in a previous life that will be selling Zanidatamab in those same places that we talk about Zepzelca. So high customer overlap, really leverageable infrastructure, great kind of connections with our channel reimbursement teams as well. So we feel really good about the launch in terms of how we can leverage our existing infrastructure.

Robert Iannone

executive
#27

And maybe a beat that I would just add, that certainly launching in BTC, which, of course, is a smaller indication, I think it's really going to help the Zanidatamab franchise. Same docs who treat BTC, treat GEA. So if you look forward to less than a year from now, we could be on the market with BTC, have positive data in GEA, which I feel would be rapidly taken up into guidelines, and we'd be super well positioned also with ongoing trials in breast cancer.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#28

Maybe on the Phase III GEA, I guess, is there an improvement in PFS that you're looking for, specifically as sort of a bar to be clinically meaningful in the indication?

Robert Iannone

executive
#29

Yes. I mean we haven't said exactly what we think agencies [Technical Difficulty]. But you could look at recent precedent, KEYNOTE-811 less than 3-month median difference in PFS. We certainly are well powered to that kind of effect. And so much so that, that could increase the sample size to get better power on OS and still maintain the PFS readout on the original sample size because we're so well powered to that.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#30

And then on that expansion, can you talk a little bit about what, I guess, just what overall led the expansion? Was that an internal discussion or sort of anything...

Robert Iannone

executive
#31

Yes. No. What I want to be really clear about is we didn't see any data. In fact, we can't. We're blinded to it. It wasn't anything that we saw that made us change that. At the time of our due diligence, that was a conversation we had with Zymeworks around, okay, the trial is about the same as KEYNOTE-811 which had 2 arms, and we have 3 arms. So clearly, we're going to be less well powered for overall survival there. What could we do to make sure we get better OS power and not delay the first readout for global approvals. And that was -- that's what Zymeworks was struggling with, how could we actually satisfy both. I think the clever idea we had was let's see if the agencies will allow us to use that original sample size or PFS, maintain that timeline. And then after that, it's just a matter of the incremental investment as an insurance policy for us. And when we found out by consulting not just FDA, but global health authorities that we could accomplish both, have your cake and eat it too. It was a little bit of a no-brainer.

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#32

And they were comfortable with that in part because we promised we'd finish the full enrollment before we did that PFS on the subset.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#33

And then on the breast cancer indication specifically, maybe can you just give us a high level of what data you've shown already? And then on the second component, whether in breast cancer, some of these other oncology indications, what will trigger additional investment in starting more internal studies with Zani?

Robert Iannone

executive
#34

I could take the first one. So we've actually published quite a lot in breast cancer. We've published in HER2-positive breast cancer in combination with a taxane in front line, looks really strong. And what I want to emphasize is, don't just look at the response rates, look at the durability and how that compares to other agents. It's really amazing, so well tolerated that patients can continue it, but also it's highly effective. And so you get this long durability. In patients who are double positive, HER2 positive and estrogen receptor positive, we studied a combination with other non-chemotherapeutics, basically estrogen-targeted drugs like CDK4/6 and fulvestrant and saw really impressive data there as well. That was published at San Antonio just last December. And then we have early-stage breast cancer data, which were early in terms of the small sample size but that trial is ongoing, showing really pretty remarkable data in the neoadjuvant setting as well. So we have a lot of confidence in the breast cancer experience. And as I mentioned earlier, these are patients who -- because we also have some later line data, would have progressed on Herceptin-PERJETA standard in frontline. There are patients -- we have a group of patients who progressed on an HER2, and we just continue to see consistent activity. So when you put that together with other tumors where you're head-to-head to Herceptin. So look at the GEA data we published a year ago at ASCO GI, really compares favorably to [ chemo Herceptin ], Zanidatamab chemo. If you look at the data we published at ESMO, where you added a PD-1 inhibitor, atezolizumab, compares really favorably. So wherever your head-to-head comparison to either Herceptin or Herceptin-PERJETA-Zani, that's better. And that's what makes us confident that even in the breast cancer setting, that we should do well. And then what triggers other opportunities, and we're still kind of thinking through that. I mean certainly a scenario where we're on the market with BTC, we've got positive GEA data, we're well underway with some critical breast cancer programs. I think we'll have increasing confidence about getting even deeper into certain tumors like early-stage gastric, early-stage breast cancer and then other tumor types as well.

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#35

I will point out that our guidance for 2024 on R&D expenditures does assume we move forward aggressively in breast cancer as well. So R&D as a percentage of revenues is about constant 20% in '24 as we reported in 2023. But the biggest component of that is Zanidatamab and that doesn't contemplate moving forward based on what we already know.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#36

And then in terms of 2025 guidance, historically, there was a little earmark for either BD or something else from the pipeline. I guess what proportion of that do you think will be filled, maybe by Zanidatamab? And I guess how do you see the need to do a BD transaction?

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#37

Yes. So when we rolled out Vision 2025, which was just over 2 years ago, we wanted to remind people that we've got a history of doing corporate development, we've got the cash flow, the balance sheet to support that and we continue to see great opportunities. We said deals we did post giving that guidance, would contribute to about $500 million potential additional revenue slug. We are not projecting Zanidatamab will do $500 million in 2025. But it will contribute, but we have the capability to do more. Whether that's exactly that amount in 2025 or something that contributes more growth going forward remains to be seen. But remember, this is a core part of our strategy. And again, if you look at where we've been with Zepzelca, where we were with the GW deal, that product has already contributed over $2 billion in revenue to the company since we did it or the more recent Zanidatamab deal. We continually add new things to our commercial portfolio and our R&D portfolio that contribute to that higher growth and sustainable future for the company.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#38

Perfect. And with that, we are at time. So thank you all very much for joining us.

Bruce Cozadd

executive
#39

Thank you, Joe.

Joseph Thome

analyst
#40

Thank you.

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