JSW Infrastructure Limited (JSWINFRA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 21, 2026
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Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to JSW Infrastructure Limited Q1 FY 2027 Earnings Conference Call hosted by Investec Capital Services Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Veenit Pasad from Investor Capital Services. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Pasad.
Veenit Pasad
analystThank you. Good evening, everyone. A warm welcome on behalf of Investec India to Q1 FY '27 Earnings Call of JSW Infrastructure Limited. We have with us the senior management team from the company represented by Mr. Rinkesh Roy, Joint MD and CEO; Mr. Lalit Strategic Adviser and Board Member; Mr. Nagarajan J., CFO; Mr. Vishesh Pachnanda, Head Investor Relations. Now I'll hand over the call to senior management for the opening remarks, post which we'll open the floor for Q&A. Thank you. Over to you, sir.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveThank you, Veenit. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our earnings call to discuss the performance for the quarter ended June 30. The global economy continues to operate in an environment of mixed signals, geopolitical tensions, trade-related uncertainties and supply chain realignments continue to create volatility across markets. Against this backdrop, India continues to stand out as one of the fastest-growing Asian economies globally, supported by strong domestic demand, sustained government investments in infrastructure and a resilient manufacturing sector. We remain optimistic about India's long-term growth trajectory and lead the country's infrastructure and logistics requirements. We'll continue to expand meaningfully over the coming decades. Turning to our performance. JSW infrastructure delivered another quarter of healthy growth despite a dynamic and challenging operating environment. During the quarter, we handled 31 million tonnes of cargo, representing a Y-o-Y growth of 6%. Growth was driven by higher volumes across key commodities supported by increased group cargo and continued momentum across our ports and terminals. Notably, this growth was delivered despite a negligible contribution from our Pujara operations due to the challenging operating environment in the Middle East. Excluding Pujara, our India operations recorded an impressive 11% year-on-year growth in cargo volumes, significantly outfacing overall industry growth and validating the strength of our business model and deep customer relationships. Our financial performance remained robust, reflecting the strength of our diversified portfolio and operating efficiencies. Consolidated operating revenue for the quarter stood at INR 1,445 crores, representing a growth of 18% year-on-year. Operating EBITDA increased by 16% year-on-year to INR 674 crores, while maintaining healthy margins. demonstrating the resilience and scalability of our business model. The quarter was also significant from a strategic perspective as we continue to advance our growth agenda across ports, logistics and adjacent infrastructure. Our long-term ambition remains unchanged. We are building a platform that can support India's growing trade and logistics requirements by expanding our capacity from the current 186 million tonnes per annum to 300 million tonnes by FY '28 and further to 400 million tonnes per annum by FY 2030 or earlier, while simultaneously establishing a comprehensive pan-India logistics network. We intend to achieve this through a combination of greenfield development, brownfield expansions, port privatization opportunities and value-accretive acquisitions. A key milestone during the quarter was the receipt of environmental clearance for Murbe, Maharashtra, along with approval for real connectivity to the dedicated trade corridor. These approvals represent key milestones and strengthen the project's multimodal connectivity, supporting its timely execution and long-term competitive business. Across our development projects, execution continues to progress steadily. The slurry pipeline project has crossed a key milestone with 251 kilometers of pipeline lowering completed, representing approximately 83% strong execution momentum with the project on track for completion by March 2027. At [ Jatadar Port, Orrisa ], the construction activities are in full swing with the innovation agreement executed with the customer following the approvals received from the Government of Odisa. At Kemiport, we continue to make progress on statutory approvals and expect environmental clearance shortly. At Southwest Port, Goa, we received consent to operate for the enhanced capacity of 12 million tonnes per annum, up from 11 earlier. The expansion work at Mangalore container terminal has been completed as a result, capacity has increased to 6 million tonnes per annum from 4.2 earlier. Meanwhile, construction at our Tuticorin bulk terminal is progressing well and remains on track for completion within the planned time line. We also expanded our presence in the container segment through the award of the integrated development of the outer container terminal and [indiscernible] at Netaji Subhash Kolkata under the PTP framework. This project further strengthens our position in Eastern India and upon completion will increase our container handling capacity in Kolkata to approximately 1.4 million TEUs. Our brownfield expansion projects are also advancing as planned. At Gigao port major equipment packages have been awarded, while at Dharamtar port work on the converse system and barge and holders are progressing well. These projects will further enhance capacity and improve operational efficiencies across our network. In logistics, NAFTA delivered another strong quarter of strong operational and financial performance, driven by healthy volume growth and focused business development initiatives. It reported an operating EBITDA of INR 33 crores in Q1, an increase of 62% Y-on-Y, reinforcing our confidence in the long-term potential of the integrated logistics platform. We also continue to strengthen our logistics network with the commencement of operations at the Gati Shakti cargo terminal at Arkona, Tamil Nadu and interim operations at Cutini logistics facility in Karnataka. Beyond the existing fleet of 25 rail rates and 17 container rigs, including those operated through [indiscernible], taking our total fleet we have accelerated the scale-up of our logistics platform. As announced earlier, in April '26, we placed orders for an additional 25 container rigs and 15 rail rigs reflecting our confidence in the growth potential of the integrated logistics business. I'm pleased to share that we have already received the first 2 railway rigs under the order, marking the commencement of fleet expansion under this program. The balance rigs are lined up for scheduled delivery in a phased manner, which will further strengthen our real logistics platform and support the growth of our integrated logistics business. This expansion is aligned with the medium-term objective of scaling our fleet to approximately 110 rail rigs and 140 container rigs, creating a combined fleet of around 250 rigs over the next 2 to 3 years with a clear focus on asset utilization, returns and earnings visibility. A major highlight during the quarter was the successful completion of INR 7,503 crores qualified institutional placement, which witnessed strong participation from leading global and domestic institutional investors. The transaction reinforces confidence in our business model, execution track record and long-term growth strategy. The capital raise further strengthens our balance sheet and provides significant flexibility to accelerate our journey towards 400 million tonnes per annum capacity, expand our integrated logistics network and pursue value-accretive growth opportunities while maintaining disciplined capital allocation. Looking ahead, we remain focused on execution, operational excellence and disciplined growth with a strengthened balance sheet, a visible project pipeline and a growing logistics network. With that, I would now like to hand over the call to our CFO, Mr. Nagarajan, who will take you through the financial performance and other details. Thank you.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveThank you, Rinkeshji, and good evening, everybody. Let me first talk about our port business. In [ Q1 ] FY '27, the company handled cargo volumes of 31 million tonnes compared to 29.4 million tonnes in Q1 FY '26, registering a growth of 6 percentage Y-o-Y. The increase was driven by strong performance at Jaigarh, led by higher anchor customer volumes and increasing third-party cargo throughput from newer cargo segments, further contributed by robust throughput at [indiscernible] South West Coast and Enor bulk terminal along with interim operations at the Tuticorin terminal. Growth was partially offset by lower volumes at Fujara terminal due to challenging operating environment in the Middle East which impacted the third-party cargo volumes, which eventually stood at 48 percentage. Operational revenue for the port segment increased by 11 percentage during the quarter to INR 1,208 crores compared with INR 1,086 crores in Q1 FY '26. Revenue increase was driven by volume growth and a favorable product mix. Operational EBITDA for both segment stood at INR 601 crores, up from INR 561 crores jumped by 7 percentage. EBITDA was largely due by increased revenue and the EBITDA margin was close to 49.8 percentage, we are 51.8% a year ago. The deport EBITDA margin is mainly attributable to the lower contribution of volumes from [indiscernible]. Naukar delivered strong operational financial results in Q1 FY '27. Total domestic over volumes stood at 385,000 tonnes, up 40% compared to the same period last year, while Exim cargo volumes reached 83,000 TEUs, representing a 2 percentage growth. Revenue from operations for Navkar rose to INR 191 crores, up 38 percentage Y-o-Y, while operating EBITDA climbed to INR 33 crores, representing 62 percentage growth compared to the same period last year, showing substantial improvement, while net profit increased to INR 12 crores, a significant increase from INR 2 crores in the previous year. Overall logistics business, including Navkar and the rigs business has generated a revenue from operations of INR 237 crores compared to INR 138 crores in the same quarter previous year. Operational EBITDA for Logistics segment stood at INR 73 crores, up from INR 20 crores, an increase of 3.6x. EBITDA margin rose to 30.6 percentage for the logistics business from 14.5% earlier. Total consolidated operational revenue for the company stood at INR 1,445 crores, and the operating EBITDA stood at INR 674 crores, reflecting a Y-o-Y growth of 18% and 16%, respectively. Consolidated depreciation was INR 166 crores and finance cost was INR 95 crores in the current quarter as compared to INR 143 crores and INR 91 crores, respectively, in quarter ended June '25. PBT was INR 463 crores versus INR 473 crores, mainly reflecting a lower other income, given the continued CapEx spend for the growth projects. PAT was INR 358 crores versus INR 390 crores, driven by lower PBT and higher ETR. For F '27 and F '28, company plans to invest approximately INR 16,500 crores, with a significant portion, around INR 13,000 crores allocated to the port segment and INR 3,500 crores earmarked for logistics space. The company has incurred a cumulative CapEx outlay of approximately INR 6,900 crores up to June '26, including INR 671 crores spent during the quarter towards ongoing and existing growth projects. In addition, the company has already committed further INR 5,500 crores of CapEx by placing orders for machinery, long-lead items and other civil work towards the ongoing projects across ports and logistics segment. During the quarter, we successfully completed a landmark INR 7,503 crores QIP, attracting strong participation from [indiscernible] global investors. Given the QIP receipt of INR 6,555 crores into the company. As of June '26, we have a net cash position of INR 2,769 crores. This, coupled with steadily increasing annual cash flows from current asset base, we are well positioned to pursue a growth plan to enhance our present cargo handling capacity to 400 million tonnes and in parallel grow our logistics business. I'm also pleased to share that Mobi has assigned JSW infrastructure and investment grade rating of BAA3 from the existing BA1 with a stable outlook, reflecting our strong financial fundamentals, disciplined capital management and resilient business model. With this, I would request the operator to open the lines for Q&A. Thank you.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Bharani V. from Avendus Park.
Bharanidhar Vijayakumar
analystMy first question is on the cost escalation you put all due to the ongoing geopolitical crisis and how it has impacted our ongoing underconstruction projects like pipeline? That's my first question.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo the slurry pipeline work, as I mentioned earlier, we have crossed a very important landmark. We have now moved to 251 kilometers by end of June of pipeline lowering, and it has not affected any ongoing projects in any way. So there were some on and off issues with somewhere of LPG gas availability or diesel availability, but these were a normal part of project execution. So we have moved ahead and the projects are moving on quite nicely.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveAnd Bharani, the total product cost always has a contingency component. So any such minor escalation get adjusted in that contingency component and eventually, it won't affect the overall project cost.
Bharanidhar Vijayakumar
analystSure. Understood. My second question is to note that you've got clearance for -- Can you take us on any being awaited, but where is the process and then you can expect it?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveCould you be louder, please?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveBharani, I think you are quite part of the speaker. So if you can come closer and repeat your question.
Bharanidhar Vijayakumar
analystSorry for that. I was asking the status of getting environmental clearance for -- where it is at, when we can expect it, sir?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo KB clearance is currently, we have applied the Karnataka coastal zone management authority. So they are now examining the matter, and they'll be forwarding the case to MoEFCC. So once it moves to MoEFCC then further approvals will be afforded. So they should take another 3 to 4 months' time to get the environment clearance in place.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Priyankar Biswas from JM Financial.
Priyankar Biswas
analystCongratulations, sir, on the QIP that have successful QIP recently. So my first question is like I understand that your Middle East volumes were impacted by the...
Rinkesh Roy
executiveHello.
Operator
operatorSorry to interrupt. We have the current participant disconnected. The next question is from the line of Shubh Arore from ICICI Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analystCongratulations on good set numbers. And volume growth has been there in this quarter. So how do we see the volume growth for this year F '27?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo you see we are taking into account the loss of cargo handling at we are taking that into account. We should deliver you a number of around 127 million tonnes this year.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Priyankar Biswas from JM Financial.
Priyankar Biswas
analystAm I audible now?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveYes.
Priyankar Biswas
analystYes. So sir, my first question is, if operations were normal and not impacted by the Iran U.S. incidents, so what sort of additional EBITDA you could have possibly delivered in this quarter?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveSo the port side, INR 601 crores which we have delivered now, that would have become around about INR 670 crores to INR 675 crores.
Priyankar Biswas
analystSo INR 60 crores, INR 70 crores additional you were saying EBITDA?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveBecause FX has also gone up. It's a dollar earning. So keeping that in mind around INR 65 crores to INR 70 crores of incremental EBITDA we would have got, because the expense of INR 8 crores of is already baked in this lead, which is a drag. So incrementally, you would run that INR 70 crores, taking it to say INR 675 crores of operating EBITDA for the ports business.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay, sir. So in which case, if we see on an underlying basis and generally in the fourth quarter, you have the takeout also, so ideally, we are actually doing slightly better than the guidance. Is that the right way to look at?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveYes, you can say that. And if you look at it, even the India performance as we try to tell you the Indian port volumes, they showed a growth of around 11% in this period.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveOur guidance of INR 3,000 crores, Priyankar, in terms of the EBITDA.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay. One more question since Kolkata is a new development. You have already provided like INR 740 crores would be required as the CapEx. So if I may ask, like at a steady state, what sort of revenue and EBITDA would be possible from this port, let's say from FY '30 onwards assuming the asset comes up in late FY '28?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveIt should be around INR 70 crores to INR 90 crores. It will be in that range.
Priyankar Biswas
analystEBITDA?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveEBITDA, I'm talking about.
Priyankar Biswas
analystINR 70 crores to INR 90 crores EBITDA you can take.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo let me put it to you this way, that currently, the existing facilities have a 90% capacity utilization. So by 2030, when we expect full completion of all projects in area, so we expect at least 75% to 80% utilization in that place. So these numbers will be going up because these are coming in 3 distinct phases. The first one is the [ 70% ]. Second one is the outer terminal and third one is both 1 to 5. So if we look at all the 3 put together, these numbers will be substantially higher.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executivePriyankar, what I spoke about was only the Phase I.
Priyankar Biswas
analystSo this INR 70 crores to INR 90 crores is Phase 1?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveThat's 7 and 8, so that's what I wanted to clarify to you, these are coming up in 3 phases, birth 7, 8, outer terminals 1 and 2 and then birth 1 to 5. So these all put together is 1.4 million TEU. And when we get all the 3 players by that time, the starting point would be 75% to 80% capacity utilization.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay, sir. So if I -- I'm just paraphrasing. So in the first phase, you should be able to get at least like INR 70-odd crores. Is that the right way to look at it? Like once you are done with the first phase, 0.45 million TEUs?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveOn full completion, you can take it to 90, basis the prevailing MSRs, which are there, and we believe it can go up in the next 2 to 3 years by the time this stabilizes. So as of now you can take it at 90, but overall, if you look at it for the entire 1.4 million TEUs, we are looking at around about INR 300 crores to INR 350 crores.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveCorrect.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay. INR 300 crores to INR 350 crores in the long term, when all phases were there?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveYes.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay. And if I could just squeeze one more in. Like I understand that you have got the environmental clearances for the DSP pace, right, for but what about the environmental clearance on the port itself that is Murbe, that is one.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveThat is what we have got. So the ECS for the entire project for Murbe, which includes the connectivity corridor.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay. So you should be able to now start construction, let's say, next year, simply in that case?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo we are looking at starting it in Q3. Somewhere by December, we should be starting the work, although all preparatory works we are targeting to start within a month.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveConcession agreement will be signed in the next 2 to 3 months, order placement will start now, and construction will commence by, say, December and Jan.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo already tenders have been invited. So we'll be moving ahead quite fast from this.
Priyankar Biswas
analystOkay. Sir, any updates on Oman. So that's my last question because given this Gulf crisis, what I understand is a lot of Middle Eastern countries are actually pushing forward their projects, which keep the Gulf Strait of Hormuz. So any update there?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo as you have rightly stated, this port is outside the Straits of Hormuz, very strategically located. We have already invited bids on June itself for port construction. What is now awaited are some few details where the conditions precedent from their part has to be completed, after which the concession agreement will be signed and then we'll be moving ahead. So these will be all done parallelly. The award of the project, the concession agreement, so this should take another month or 2 to get it completed.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Aditya Mongia from Kotak Institutional Equities.
Aditya Mongia
analystI'll go ahead with my first question. Just taking the lead from the last person, I arrive at an EBITDA margin at the port business, which actually improves Q-on-Q, if you add back the INR 60 crore amount, while you had some pass-through in some in fourth quarter. If 1, 2 numbers are better, could you help us understand where and which ports are driving the margin expansion on a Q-on-Q basis. But otherwise, it should otherwise be falling.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveYes, it is slightly driver, which has driven the revenue as well as EBITDA in this quarter. And I think that's only -- and third-party volumes also have gone up, primarily cargo mix, especially in [indiscernible] because we have handled as well as project cargo in that has been set in some incremental EBITDA in this quarter.
Aditya Mongia
analystSure. So just to clarify, these are obviously recurring volumes that have started coming. So whatever margin improvement is happening should sustain, right?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveNo. These are in this quarter, especially the ones on alumina and project cargo were there in this quarter, but I don't think these will be recurring in nature.
Aditya Mongia
analystOkay. Understood. So the second question that I have also some have happened, especially I think by one year, the period has been deferred now. So I just want to get a sense of what are the key -- point from there on, which may lead to any further delay? Or is everything in control over there versus the FY '30 guidance that we have today? Because I understand that there's a deficit project to get up and running, that's .
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo actually, if you look at it, you're absolutely right. We bought the concession earlier in Keni. But if you look at the EC, we have got it earlier in Murbe rather than Kenny. This has been actually something which was beyond our control because the cases that was not constituted for close to 6 to 7 months in between, there were some issues. So that statutory body was not there. So apart from us, others were also affected in that process. So that has actually delayed that entire process.
Aditya Mongia
analystSo as related question over the -- is there -- should one anticipate beyond you seeing any execution challenges to also kind of string up given the progress you have done to the FY '30 is signed not as a time line.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveNo, we don't foresee much of any problem because, again, these models that the port model that we have come up with are basically reclamation models in the sea. So the land acquisition parts are very minimal. So we don't foresee much of a challenge. Whatever if be is a local project challenge that we'll be facing.
Aditya Mongia
analystUnderstood. I guess a small clarification, if you could suggest the other income decline is quite stark Q-on-Q. Should we just assume that this is being to CapEx or maybe some one off some things correct from here on?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveNo, last quarter, if you look at Q1 of FY '26, the treasury balance was on the higher side. Of course, CapEx spend has been on equity contribution is on for all the projects which are ongoing. It is where the treasury balance has come down. But as of 30th of June, as you are aware, the QIP proceeds have come. So the treasury income will shoot up, at least for the rest of the year.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Alok Deora from Motilal Oswal.
Alok Deora
analystJust had a couple of questions. So one is on the Middle East disturbance now. When do we -- I know it's a difficult thing to answer maybe, but when we are giving the guidance, what are we expecting in terms of where the volumes normalize? Or have you not been any much contribution from that? And also on the insurance side, if there is how -- what would be processed there and how much recovery we are expecting from that side? So that is question one. Question 2 is on the link to the previous question, when -- where you mentioned that the port margins have improved, but there is a certain component of one-off. So we are expecting those things to completely kind of come back to the 4Q levels in the second and third quarter onwards. Yes. Just clarity on these.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo I'll just answer your questions on Fujairah. Number one, by July end, that's another 13 -- 10, 11 days. We expect to get 8 tanks in Fujairah operational. So they'll be ready for operations. And then it depends on the climate at that point of time whether prices are low, where the ships are going to come in. So that will be a separate issue, but we'll be ready for operations with 8 tanks from first by July end or first week of August. So that's one part of it. And we expected a hit, and we have taken that into account when I told you that we are going to minus losses at Fujairah, we should be touching 127 million tonnes per annum. And on insurance, we have already put forward claims, and it has been told by our advisers that is going on well. And we should expect a resolution by end of October. So that's the current state of affairs on the insurance side.
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveAnd talking about the EBITDA margin, Alok. So -- in other expenses, there is around INR 8 crores to INR 9 crores of expenses which are onetime in nature, which have been incurred in this quarter, there was shifting of Crane and Jaigarh Port from one bay area to another Bay Area. So that is one incremental loss which we have incurred. It can't be capitalized. So that is one item. And if you look at the volumes, primarily vis-a-vis last quarter, there has been growth in SWPL as well as Dharamkar. So these are also a bit of a higher EBITDA margin post wherein the volumes have gone up, SWPL as you are aware, the capacity has gone up. That's where the numbers are. And Dharamtar obviously, because of enhanced volumes coming from it -- from the anchor customer, there has been a jump in the overall volume. So these will be more or less kind of normal in nature going forward.
Alok Deora
analystGot it. Just one last question. So you also mentioned about going ahead with the Oman port expansion there. So are we like going ahead with that? Or is there still more like at the MOU stage, which still a chance to change it or having some alternate there because if things don't go as per the plan in terms of geopolitical situation. Yes, that would be my last question.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo as we have been repeating this part of it, that the area outside Hormuz has acquired a lot of strategic importance, be it in UAE or in Oman. So every government is now stepping up massive investments on emergency basis to develop this coast line outside the Straits of Hormuz. So we will be going ahead with this project because these [indiscernible] are -- it's in our perception and everyone's perception. These are not going to be continuing indefinitely. These projects will take another 2, 3 years to come into stream. So I think that's a good decision to move ahead. We'll be continuing on this.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Ankit Shah from Elara Capital.
Ankita Shah
analystAnkita here. Most of my questions have been answered. So one or 2. So we had plans to merge Navkar Corporation. Any thoughts on that?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveWe'll communicate at right time. Will take us not taken anything on that.
Ankita Shah
analystAnd are we looking at any acquisitions in the logistics space in this financial year, given that we are guiding for a strong growth this year and in and next year also assuming it is building in some acquisition. So anything that you can share at the moment on the same?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveYes, for the rigs business, obviously, we continue to place orders for the rigs. On the terminal side, as you are aware, we have kind of bid for NCR, and that at the high end of our so that we should be closing in this quarter. And a couple of assets are in the NCLT where we would like to participate in those assets as a bidder.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Koundinya Nimmagadda from Jefferies.
Koundinya Nimmagadda
analystSir, my question is likely a bit on a medium-term, trajectory right? Can you speak a little bit about the opportunity for third-party volume growth at some of your greenfield port, especially something like would be or you can Murbe as and when they come. Can you give a little bit color on what the catchment looks like, what industries that you're looking for to drive up utilizations here because I think my understanding is that there is not enough support from group for port. So if you can speak a little bit on it, please.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo at Murbe, let's go -- so at Murbe, we are looking at there's an immediate industrial area in Tarapur [indiscernible] area, immediate vicinity, you have a lot of cargo. Then pushing inverse because you're bypassing the Western Ghats, you get the hinterland of MP. You get the hinterland of Telangana and then and western Maharashtra. So that becomes a big catchment area for traffic origin. So here, the traffic we're looking at is not only bulk, the break bulk containers, fertilizers. So there's a wide catchment area. And most importantly, the moment you are connected to the dedicated freight corridor, the hinterland opens up to North end also. So that is where the key traffic elements are going to come from. Number 2 part was on Keni. So Keni, we are also looking at the immediate hinterland behind the Ballari [indiscernible] , et cetra. So there's a lot of potential. Those areas are developing very fast with a lot of mineral based and metal-based industries coming up there. So the hinterland is again quite vibrant and growing. So these are the areas we are looking at third-party cargo.
Koundinya Nimmagadda
analystSir, just spending a little bit more time on [indiscernible] you also need to compete with something like, let's say, GMPT or, let's say, [indiscernible] airport Adani ports, et cetera, right? And when it's a greenfield port where you're just starting what are your strategies? If you can maybe speak a little bit about how do you intend to attract cargo from these customers?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo if the question of how quickly we -- number one, I would say, is how quickly we execute this project. That is number one. And since we have got the regulatory [indiscernible] with minimal land acquisitions involved. I think that, that part of the story, we should be able to deliver quickly. Most importantly, if you would have seen why we strategize to move into logistics was to have this integrated place, what you're looking at. So we are -- we would be one of those few port operators who has a big logistics player right up to the hinterland we will be able to deliver door to door services. So that is where our USP comes in.
Koundinya Nimmagadda
analystSure, sir. Understood. Got it. Sir, secondly, a small bookkeeping question. I'm just trying -- sorry for hopping on this EBITDA margin part. So even if I add that 89 right back to the ports, one-off thing, even then the margins actually look lower, especially given there's a significant contribution for something like a Jaigarh Port in this specific quarter? Am I missing something? Or am I reading it incorrectly, if you can help me understand it, please?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveNo, no. One is that add back, as I said. And second is, obviously, Fujairah is not -- so that is something we need to in terms of Ariane crores would have lost. So those are into 90% is only mode. -- and there will be an option to -- and sir, just to confirm, I hear correctly that your revised volume guidance is INR 127 for the year, please signal an operator this conference is being the
Operator
operatorNext question is from the line of Ketan Jain from even Avendus.
Koundinya Nimmagadda
analystMy So my question is on the rigs part. Have we added any rigs in this quarter?
Rinkesh Roy
executivethis quarter, we did not add. The first 2 rigs have been delivered in this week only. So that's -- I thought as I told you, we wanted to share that good news. So the orders that we placed in April, they have started fructifying here in July.
Ketan Jain
analystOkay. And what -- how many rigs are we expected to add this fiscal year?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo this year, our entire orders of 40 rigs are supposed to come on stream by Jan or Feb latest. So at least we should be having a rig fleet of 80 rigs plus by end of Jan or Feb, we should be having that.
Ketan Jain
analystUnderstood. Just bookkeeping question. I see in our presentation that we have mentioned rail rigs contributed INR 43 crores in revenue and INR 40 crores in EBITDA. Can you help us understand this high EBITDA margin in this?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveYes, because only the premium and the rebate is what we have accounted in our revenue -- there is one more option wherein we can take the premium rebate and also the freight charges. At that point of time, the EBITDA margin will be around 25 percentage. In this case, since the haulage charges or the logistic freight has been netted off. So that is where the EBITDA margins are looking a bit elevated. So we will take -- we will be following this policy from going forward?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveIt depends, like which kind of rates we will be getting. So if it is LSFTO rates, the treatment will be different. If it is for GPWS rates, it will be different. And for container rates, again, it will be a bunched service because the container rates, typically, you give a bunch service wherein the logistics cost plus the handling are all packaged together.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Aditya Bhartia from Investec.
Unknown Analyst
analystWe have the target of reaching 250 rigs by 2030. Just wanted to understand how many of those rigs are likely to be GPW and LSFO rigs and how many of those could be container rigs? So just a related question.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo broadly 150 would be container rig, 110-odd would be LSFO and other GPWIS rigs. So only thing is as of now, we have 19 rigs, GPS in our portfolio, and there is a moratorium on that. So in case the moratorium gets lifted, then this 250 may also be revised upward. But as of now, what we have targeted is a mix of container rates and LFS rigs plus the 19 GPW rigs, which we already have. That is where we are reporting it at 250. But in case the opportunity opens up in the GPW space, we may revise this 250 a little bit upward.
Unknown Analyst
analystUnderstood, sir. Understood. And what proportion of these rigs utilization is likely to be linked to the group? And how much is it likely to be for third party?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo it would be around 45 55, it will be in that ratio on the rate front because the larger proportion would be container rates, 150 versus 110. 110 would be more or less group. 150, some part of it will be on the group -- so currently, if you look at Navkar and all the other operations that we do, it's around 75-25, 75 third party, 25 group.
Unknown Analyst
analystPerfect. Perfect. That's helpful, sir. And just one more question on Morbi. In Morbi, what proportion of traffic is likely to be container? And within that, on the bulk cargo, how much of that is likely to be linked to the group? Or should we assume it largely to be third-party?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo we are basically looking at, as I told you, a hinterland in MT, which is more of fertilizers, some part of other movements. A part of it will be definitely container. -- mostly it would be partially serving group somewhere in Tarapur, they would be serving. So it would be a mix of 20, you can put it
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Shubham from ICICI Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy question is for this quarter, majority of growth in volumes have come from and how do we see that growth in...
Rinkesh Roy
executiveAs we said, we will be keeping that headline number of 127 in mind. And basis that the cargo volumes will play out.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Achal
Unknown Analyst
analystJust 2 questions actually. First, if I understand you rightly, 127 million tonnes doesn't include Fujera. What about INR 3,000 crores of EBITDA, how much loss or profit are we accounting for Fujaira in this EBITDA, sir?
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveAround 40 percentage of the numbers we have baked in for Fujera. -- as Rakesh was mentioning that we'll be ready to operate 8x by August and say another 3x by, say, September or October. So we have baked in around INR 100 crores to INR 125 crores of EBITDA coming in from Fujara operations out of the INR 3,000 crores numbers which we have guided.
Unknown Analyst
analystGot it. And in terms of volume...
Jambunathan Nagarajan
executiveVolume around 2 million to 2.5 million tonnes... Got it.
Unknown Analyst
analystThe second question I had, you mentioned about the third-party cargo which got handled at Jaar. Was that just the ODC cargo and alumina product and that is more onetime? Have I understood right? Or is there a recurring third-party cargo, a new set of kind of category which is kind of emerging?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveNo. from the project cargo as well as the alumina cargo, that is onetime. But we have also got an incremental cargo on the LPG space. So that we expect to take it forward or continue in the subsequent quarters.
Unknown Analyst
analystRight. Understood. One clarification in terms of the other income, the Q-o-Q fall, if you could clarify, sir, you clarified the Y-o-Y fall. What about the Q-o-Q? Was there any like large one-off income in this INR 90 crores in 4Q FY '26?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveYes, because we had receivables from Hiranandani, which were in India and JV with us in the Jag. So on the receivables around INR 40 crores of interest we paid to us in Q4 of FY '26. So that is accrued in our financials. Otherwise, if you look at it, Sam, it would have been in that INR 50 crores to INR 55 crores mark in Q4 FY '26.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd this INR 40 crores you have received or you have accrued sitting as receivable?
Rinkesh Roy
executiveWe have received and that's how we have That is how we have accounted for...
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Shubham from ICICI Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy question has been answered.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, that was the last question of today. And I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.
Rinkesh Roy
executiveSo we delivered a strong quarter driven by healthy cargo growth, resilient operational performance and steady execution across our growth projects. We continue to make good progress on our brownfield expansions, while key milestones at Murbe and Jhatadar further strengthen the visibility of our greenfield pipeline. Our logistics platform is also scaling up well through rail fleet expansion, new asset commissioning and strong performance at Navkar. Given the strong operating momentum and execution progress across ports and logistics, we reaffirm our operating EBITDA guidance of approximately INR 3,000 crores for FY '27 and INR 5,000 crores for FY '28. Thank you all.
Operator
operatorThank you. On behalf of Investec Capital Services, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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