Kalmar Oyj (KALMAR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 5, 2026

HLSE FI Industrials Machinery special 28 min

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Operator

operator
#1

Hello, everybody. We're just hold on for a few seconds still waiting for everybody to join the call. So just hold on.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#2

All right. I think it's on the hour. So warmly welcome to Kalmar's pre-silent call. My name is Carina Geber-Teir. And with me here today, I have both Sakari Ahdekivi and Katri Hokkanen. And I would warmly welcome also Katri to this -- to join the team. But today, the call will still be hosted by Sakari due to that this is the second or third day that Katri is with us. But maybe before Sakari starts wrapping up kind of where we are, Katri, would you like to say a few words to the team here?

Katri Hokkanen

executive
#3

Thank you, Carina, and hello, everybody, on my behalf as well. My name is Katri Hokkanen. And as you heard, I started as CFO last Thursday. So I'm in the middle of my onboarding. And I might be a familiar face for some of you at least in the call, and I joined Kalmar from Valmet, where I was CFO for 4.5 years. But maybe with that, I'm looking forward to see you all in CMD in November. Thank you.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#4

Well, by that, Sakari, over to you. This is your kind of last call as Kalmar's previous CFO.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#5

Thank you, Carina. Thank you, Katri. Yes, it's a pleasure to host this call. And so one more time. And so as usual, then we'll have a look at the agenda, which is a familiar one. We'll recap where we left off in the second quarter, so the Q2 highlights. We will cover the orders which have been booked and announced for Q3. And we have an update on the market indicators for 2026. And then we have a few other announcements at the end and as usual, a Q&A. But let's just remind us how we left off after the second quarter. So second quarter was characterized by strong sales growth and also a strong cash flow. The order intake was resilient and stable, same level as the corresponding quarter in the previous year, so around EUR 450 million. We had a strong sales growth on the back of the strong order backlog that we had. So sales grew 14% compared to previous year. And also within the sales, the eco portfolio sales grew by 27%. We also had an improvement in the fully electric equipment order intake in the second quarter compared to the previous quarters. The comparable operating profit in absolute terms increased by 9% from EUR 55 million to EUR 60 million. We also had a sequentially improved performance in services, rebounding from a lower margin level in the first quarter and also the fourth quarter of 2025. We continued a good execution with the Driving Excellence, and we had a strong operating cash flow and also our guidance for 2026 was unchanged. Then on the order side, we had a stable order -- overall demand for equipment and services across the different end customer segments. And the order intake was resilient despite the fact that we had fewer sizable orders in the second quarter of -- than in the second quarter of '25. So equipment was in line with the corresponding or the comparison period, services was where we had a slight decrease. And the order book remained close to EUR 1 billion, so at a very, very good level. And then one thing, we had no impact from currencies in the second quarter. So it was comparable from that point of view as well. And then we said that our direct impact from the Middle East conflict was limited, however, did have an impact on logistics costs in the quarter. And then when we look at by market, what happened, the order intake in EMEA decreased because we had fewer sizable orders than in the comparison period. In Americas, we had a growth in the order intake as the gradual recovery in the distribution end customer segment continued. Services customers, however, were still cautious. And then the APAC growth was driven by Oceania. And regarding the demand environment, customer demand in the second quarter remained stable and resilient across all of our customer segments. On the sales side, we had strong growth, both on the equipment and the services side on the back of the strong order backlog from the previous orders, and we delivered our projects successfully. And again, currencies had no impact on second quarter. In EMEA, sales growth was strong due to the previously received sizable orders and the successful deliveries of those. In Americas, sales increased in the Equipment segment. So the 3% came from that side. And in APAC, sales decreased as the growth that we had in Oceania was offset by a decrease in equipment sales in Asia. And then maybe the highlight from this slide was the improved services performance, which I already mentioned before, the equipment profitability remained on a good level. And then as I said, our guidance for 2026 remained unchanged. We expected our comparable operating profit margin to be above 12.5%. Then we have the orders that we have booked and announced in Q3, a large order in straddle carriers, [ 12 hybrid ] straddles for the International Container Terminal Services in the Philippines. We also won Kalmar Care service agreement in Algeciras in TTI. And then also to mention the 2 Kalmar electric reachstackers for the Port of Helsingborg. So very different kinds of orders represented here in the orders that we have booked. Then the market environment, and these are now mostly updated. So the global GDP is still the Q2 graph. However, the others are now updated for Q3. GDP was not available yet for this call. One positive sign here is clearly that the global container throughput outlook for 2027 has increased quite noticeably from the previous level to 5.6% growth before then returning to about 3% in 2028. The global manufacturing output development has also inched up slightly, both for '26 and '27. However, on the global retail side, things are a tad down, but I would say, largely unchanged. And then the demand outlook as per the second quarter was that we expected our total market demand for the next 6 months to remain approximately at a similar level compared to previous quarters. However, of course, as there is a lot of turbulence and geopolitical instability, of course, that could affect Kalmar's markets and then customer demand from time to time. Then we had a big event in September as we opened the industry first fully automated test center in Ljungby, Sweden. This is designed for 24/7 fully automated accelerated lifetime testing of our equipment in extreme circumstances, so varying from very cold temperatures to very hot temperatures. And this -- maybe the thing to remember about this is that this will speed up our R&D work as we are able to efficiently and continuously test our equipment in the facility. And we had a grand opening of the facility attended by a very nice audience of our customers, suppliers and other stakeholders. On September 3, we announced that Kalmar plans to simplify its operating model to accelerate growth, enhance customer focus and optimize operational efficiency. What we are doing in practice is that within our Equipment segment, we are combining 2 divisions, the Horizontal Transportation and the Terminal Tractors. This is a simplification of the organization and it is also there to drive customer focus and service focus. This will not have an impact on our reporting structure. So our external segments being equipment and services remain unchanged as a result. And planning and consultation began immediately after the announcement. What we are targeting here in terms of cost savings is EUR 10 million of cost savings, and the full run rate is expected to be achieved by the end of 2027. The change has no impact on our 2026 guidance. And then as a reminder, there are quite a few changes in the leadership team. So as of January 1, 2027, you see the leadership team here. So Katri as new CFO. And then as a result of the divisional changes, Thor Brenden will be the President of Counterbalanced and Arto Keskinen will be the President of Horizontal Transportation and Terminal Tractors. And then, of course, also our recent joining, Tamara de Gruyter as President of Services. Then as a reminder, Kalmar is hosting its Capital Markets Day on the 2nd of November 2026 in Helsinki, Finland at the Flik Event Studio here in Ruoholahti, Finland. And you see the timetable for the presentations and the program on the slide. And here is a slightly more detailed agenda and the topics that will be addressed at the Capital Markets Day on the 2nd of November. And with that, we are ready for Q&A.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#6

Yes. And I see at least Antti, you already raised your hand earlier here. So maybe you want to start. If you are talking, we cannot hear you. So maybe you should open your mic.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#7

Now it should be working.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#8

Yes, now we hear you.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#9

Lovely. Great. And Katri, nice to see you. Great to continue the cooperation. But at this time, maybe it's fair to point the questions towards Sakari. So maybe let's start with the equipment profitability outlook. And I mean, on the second quarter, you had a strong sales growth, but the margin was a bit muted compared to year before. So Sakari, maybe could you remind us, was there something that you would want to highlight regarding the different business units within the equipment or geographically Americas versus Europe on the profitability development? Or what caused the margin contraction year-over-year?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#10

Yes, Antti, what we said in connection with the Q2 report was that we had some cost headwinds, namely in logistics in some of the oil-based products and some other components as well. And then there was a mix impact also between the -- because there are some differences between the margins of the different equipment. So there was also a mix impact. So those were the drivers that we cited and quoted at the time.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#11

But just looking at kind of the book-to-bill development, if you look at past 6 or 9 months, which I guess is a good proxy for your delivery times, I mean, it's a strong book-to-bill in the Americas, but obviously weaker in Europe because of these larger deals not being on the orders right now. So should that be something that impacts kind of the equipment mix going forward? Is the logistics or any tariff impacts or anything like that more profound on the U.S. sales that we should be wary of when we do our estimates going forward?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#12

I would say that largely the same. Of course, the -- as we know, the oil prices have remained high. So logistic costs have remained high as well. So that is, of course, an impact that will have continued. But other than that, I wouldn't see any larger things to read into.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#13

So the change in geographical mix, if that is to be occur, doesn't have an impact on profitability?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#14

I don't expect so.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#15

Okay. And then maybe, I mean, you touched upon the oil price and obviously, the interest rates have continued to creep up during the quarter. Is this impacting any way your client decision-making, whether it be smaller projects, larger projects, smaller clients, bigger clients, anything you want to share?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#16

I think in the big picture, no, because, of course, the investment cycles are quite long and what has been ordered is delivered. So maybe in some smaller cases, it might have an impact on decisions. But I would say that our customers typically don't change their course so quickly.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#17

Maybe, Antti, to add on that. So the only thing is more on the freight and the availability, there are some problems on availability of shipments and so forth that is there a kind of ship ready to deliver, so due to the high pricing and so forth. So that might affect a little bit of the timing.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#18

That's a good point, especially in Asia. So freight availability can be a bottleneck and could impact some deliveries.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#19

Okay. Good. And then maybe last question at this point from me would be seasonality. If we think about your demand is fairly stable for the rest of the year sequentially. Is Q3 typically a much weaker quarter because of the summer season in terms of orders and maybe also on deliveries, would you expect to deliver typically less on Q3 versus other quarters?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#20

Not due to seasonality. So if there are any reasons, there would be then other reasons. But we don't really have a seasonal business.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#21

Okay. Any further questions? Mikael, please.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#22

A couple of questions as well. Firstly, on the service side, I mean, you mentioned demand being a bit sluggish, especially in the U.S., right? And just wondering, back then, you talked about perhaps this could be a bit of a time lag effect between the kind of equipment orders and service orders, maybe Cass Freight numbers point a bit upwards. Just wondering if you are seeing any signs of improvements here.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#23

Yes. We often refer to the Cass Freight Index. And of course, there, the development up till now has still been quite slow. So I think that -- and as you rightly point out, it's -- the U.S. plays a big part, of course, because when you think about services, a big part is spare parts and then a big part of that is the U.S. market. So of course, that has an impact on the overall numbers.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#24

Okay. But you haven't really seen any changes there then, right?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#25

No.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#26

And the Cass Freight Index for Q3 was still down the kind of -- what it points is upwards towards kind of the Q4, a little slightly, but it's still sluggish if you look at the Cass Freight Index development.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#27

Okay. And then on Europe, how would you describe the aftermarket demand situation in Europe or EMEA?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#28

I would say, normal. So no dramatic changes.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#29

Okay. All right. And then just actually a question on the -- you showed the updated chart on container throughput and you pointed to the fact that the estimates have been raised quite a lot into '27. What is driving that?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#30

That's a good question.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#31

I think...

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#32

I don't know, Carina, if you have any background to that, but...

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#33

I think what is driving that, the kind of that -- the forecast is that the Middle East situation would normalize in kind of going into '27. So I think that's one of the key indicators why there are better numbers for '27.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#34

So it might be pretty volatile then because if the outlook changes, then it would react again.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#35

Right. Okay. That makes sense. And could you maybe, Sakari, just as a recap in terms of the cost savings, cost takeout, the impact that we have seen from those in the numbers, what we should expect into the second half of the year and also into '27? I mean you mentioned the simplification program, but the other stuff that you have ongoing, maybe just a bit of that.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#36

So there's, of course, 2 things. One is the Driving Excellence. And as you remember, we reached EUR 49 million of gross savings run rate by the end of the second quarter. And the target was -- when we started the program was [ EUR 50 million ]. But what we said in connection with second quarter is, of course, we don't stop there. So we continue the work. Most of the Driving Excellence savings is coming from sourcing activities. And of course, we will continue to work on sourcing savings also going forward. So the EUR 50 million is by no means any kind of limit. And then, of course, we're also working on our internal processes, which going forward should start to show more than it has so far. Then -- so -- and then the 2 things to remember, of course, on that is that it's a 2-year program, and we already achieved some savings last year. So you only have the increment of the run rate. So -- and then we've said that we reinvest some of it into the business in terms of, for example, higher R&D cost. So -- and then to further complicate, of course, then tariffs and customer pricing play a role as well. So that all then becomes part of the equation of what then ends up in the bottom line. So that's a dynamic kind of thing. Then the cost saving that we announced or the structural change that we announced in September is, of course, different by nature because there, we are combining 2 divisions, and that is then targeting fixed cost mostly, whereas Driving Excellence is variable cost. And of course, we are executing the simplification and as a result, target to have EUR 10 million lower fixed costs. So that is a more, I would say, direct impact than the Driving Excellence.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#37

Okay. No, that's clear. And then just finally, on the tariff refunds, anything you can say about that? Anything you have perceived?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#38

What we said in Q2 is that there is no impact on our P&L from tariff refunds up to the end of the second quarter. Of course, there are refunds and then, of course, some of it is also then going back to the customer. So then the impact will be, of course, much smaller than the refunds that we actually receive. But by the end of second quarter, nothing in the result, and we'll come back to that then in more detail when we publish Q3.

Mikael Doepel

analyst
#39

Okay. And then just a final one in terms of the sales funnels for equipment across the regions, how would you describe those now?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#40

I would say that they are healthy. Of course, variable situations, but I see no reason to be concerned about the sales funnel.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#41

Antti, you still have an additional question.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#42

Yes. I wanted to follow up on Mikael's question on the cost savings side and the equipment -- the September announced equipment reorganization, EUR 10 million. Anything on second half? And is -- should we model it so that in '27, your costs will be EUR 10 million lower on a full year basis or that you will achieve this run rate on Q4?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#43

It's run rate by the end of '27, and very limited impact this year.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#44

Okay. So not much in this year. And speaking of the tariffs, not maybe on the refund side, but could you maybe comment a little bit on pricing versus kind of the tariff costs? Where are you in terms of kind of backlog that you are delivering in the U.S.? Have you gotten everything through on price increases? Will that be a headwind for your gross margins on the U.S. side? And how has that evolved?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#45

We have, in the past, now mostly been able to compensate the tariffs in the pricing.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#46

Everything, of course, depends on how the tariff situation evolves. If there are some new legislation or something, so then it's, of course, too early to comment on that.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#47

I was more referring to the rearview mirror here.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#48

So that wasn't really an impact on the second quarter on the bit of the margin weakness that became more on the actual cost and logistic cost side and mix side.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#49

Correct. I think we mentioned that tariffs were also an element, but they were less than the other impacts.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#50

Okay. No. Somehow, I'm just maybe coming back to -- and you already answered on this. So maybe this is a little bit repeating. But when I just think that if the weight of your deliveries shift more to the U.S., I would kind of imagine that sort of those inflationary pressures when it comes to logistics, tariffs and these are more profound on the second half if the share of U.S. grows. But apparently, that is not the case that even if you deliver more in Americas, it's a neutral margin driver for you.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#51

Yes. I don't think the logistics, especially because, of course, we -- the bulk of the equipment sales is terminal tractors, which we produce there. So I don't think the logistic cost as such then has -- I mean, for what we ship from Poland, of course, there might be some impact, but such a big part is terminal tractors from Kansas.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#52

Okay. Good. And the recovery on the U.S. distribution segment, anything you want to comment on that one?

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#53

I think we'll come back in more detail, but I would say that the situation has not deteriorated.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#54

Thank you, Antti. Do we have any further questions from the audience here? No. I cannot -- in that case, I think -- thank you, Sakari, for this was the last call on Sakari's behalf. Thanks for all the questions, and I'm looking forward to both seeing you on our Q3 quarterly release. But as Katri mentioned, the Capital Markets Day then the week after the Monday. So there's going to be plenty of events. Looking forward to those ones.

Sakari Ahdekivi

executive
#55

Yes. And once again, thanks for the good cooperation to all of you. All the best from my side.

Carina Geber-Teir

executive
#56

Bye-bye.

Antti Kansanen

analyst
#57

Thank you.

Operator

operator
#58

Thank you.

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