Kewal Kiran Clothing Limited (KKCL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 11, 2026

NSEI IN Consumer Discretionary Textiles, Apparel and Luxury Goods earnings 46 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Kewal Kiran Clothing Limited Q4 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Before we begin, a brief disclaimer. The presentation which Kewal Kiran Clothing Limited has uploaded on the stock exchange and their website, including the discussions during this call contains or may contain certain forward-looking statements concerning Kewal Kiran Clothing Limited business prospects and profitability, which are subject to several risks and uncertainties, and the actual results could materially differ from those in such forward-looking statements. [Operator Instructions] I now hand the conference over to Mr. Hemant Jain, Joint MD, Kewal Kiran Clothing. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Hemant Jain

executive
#2

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today. Welcome to Kewal Kiran Clothing Limited Q4 and FY '26 Earnings Call. I'm joining by Mr. Pankaj Jain, President, Retail and Marathon Capital, our Investor Relations Advisor. We are pleased to report a strong close to FY '26 with Q4 marking yet another quarter of double-digit sales growth and taking full year growth of 20.9%. This performance is well ahead of the average growth rate envisaged in Vision 2028 and validates our brand-wide differentiated strategy. Let me talk -- let me walk you through some of the key highlights for the quarter and financial year. Consolidated revenue for Q4 FY '26 stood at INR 325 crores, up by 12.4% year-on-year and for FY '26 stood at INR 1,212 crores, led by strong growth in both volumes and value. April volume growth on a consolidated basis saw an encouraging growth of 16% year-on-year, driven by strong design capabilities and sustained consumer demand for our product. Coming to our operational performance. Our performance reflects the scalability, resilience and execution strength of our operating model driven by disciplined execution of focused growth strategy across brands and channels, strong consumer traction led by our fashion forward design-led product portfolio. Agility in navigating a competitive landscape while sustaining market shares and profitability. Some notable operational highlights across our brand. First Killer; continued its sustained growth journey with double-digit sales growth in FY '26 and now operated 457 EBOs. The SSG for Q4 '26 is 6.8% and for the year FY '26 is 9.4%. Kraus delivered robust sales performance and growth in EBITDA margins at par overall KKCL margin profile. On track to evolve a significant player in women's casual wear market, started getting good traction in MBOs export market and expanded EBOs network to 28. Focus now towards further improvement in working capital cycle. Junior Killer posted high sales growth in FY '26, validating our focused entry into kids wear. Backed by disciplined execution, the brand is gaining strong traction. Lawman, with this strategic repositioning towards D2C model, the brand has started showing positive traction and consumer acceptance, resulting in robust sales growth in FY '26 and now operated 90 EBOs. Integriti recorded notable growth in both Q4 and FY '26 year-on-year, driven by a renewed focus and targeted brand building efforts. On the profitability front, EBITDA came in at INR 238 crores for FY '26 and INR 62 crores for Q4 FY '26, reflecting a staggering 25% and 18% growth year-on-year, respectively. EBITDA margin expanded upward of 19% for both the quarter and financial year, driven by efficient operational performance surpassing our guided range of 17% to 18%. Our execution-led operational discipline enabled us to grow at scale while protecting profitability, resulting in a strong EBITDA margin of 19.6% for FY '26. On the channel of sales front, our EBO large format stores, MBO and online channel reported a healthy double-digit growth in FY '26, validating the effectiveness of our go-to-market strategy. Revenue grew 16% year-on-year in retail and 8% year-on-year in non-retail Q4 FY '26. FY '26 retail grew 24% and nonretail grew 17% year-on-year, underscoring consistent broad-based momentum across formats. In line with our strategy to expand our brand footprint, we added net 57 EBOs in FY '26, taking our total to 66 stores as on March 31, 2026. Coming to our outlook and strategy. The robust performance in FY '26, particularly the contribution from Kraus Casuals give us the confidence to raise our growth and ambitions backed by an inorganic acquisition strategy. We continue to achieve the Vision 2028. However, we aim to further accelerate the growth target from 15% CAGR to 20% CAGR in the next 3 years, and it's expected to be meaningfully supported by a well-defined acquisition framework. While acquisitions may not materialize uniformly each year, our 3-year strategic road map is designed to deliver this accelerated growth trajectory. Backed by our core principle of stability, sustainability and scalability, we remain confident in our ability to achieve this ambition. With that, I would now like to open the floor for question.

Operator

operator
#3

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Shubham Jain from Counter Cyclical.

Shubham Jain

analyst
#4

I just have 2 quick questions. Sir, firstly, on the monetization side of our land in Goregaon, any update on that?

Hemant Jain

executive
#5

We are still under negotiations for that.

Shubham Jain

analyst
#6

Okay. And what is your expectation when can we complete that part?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#7

As of now, the decision is still standstill. We can update this decision on a quarter-to-quarter basis on every con call.

Shubham Jain

analyst
#8

Okay, sir. Secondly, sir, on the acquisition that we had done in Kraus, 50% stake, are we planning to increase that stake going forward?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#9

There is nothing changed for first 5 years period. After then, there can be some.

Shubham Jain

analyst
#10

And any other acquisitions that you have been planning in other segments form of inorganic growth?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#11

We are open for opportunities, and we're also looking for some.

Shubham Jain

analyst
#12

Okay, sir. Sir, lastly, you raised your guidance from 10%, 15% to 20% plus. Where are you particularly expecting that growth to be coming from?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#13

So what I'm trying to say is that, okay, organically, our growth, we still say that it should be around 15% to 18%. The additional vacuum of close to around 5% shall be covered by an inorganic acquisition.

Operator

operator
#14

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Rushabh Shah from BugleRock PMS.

Rushabh Shah

analyst
#15

Sir, a few calls back, you had said that you see significant export potential for our flagship brands like Killer, Kraus especially in markets with a strong youth. So just wanted to know -- what wanted to have the look of those markets, which are those markets what is the export potential -- and any internal targets you have to reach in exports for the next 5 years?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#16

The exports for KCL, the exports doesn't actually contribute significantly. However, most of the countries which they export to, including Kraus is Middle East and Saudi, okay? You have known the case scenario that over the last 3 months, okay, it has been disturbed. And that's the reason, okay, exports have been a little bit disturbed. Going to the article which we said right now that all the channels have been growing. And we think that, okay, the export is going to remain constant or may degrow for the next year.

Rushabh Shah

analyst
#17

Okay. Sir, my second question is KKCL has also launched the athleisure segment. So how has that segment grown for us? And what do you think about...

Pankaj Jain

executive
#18

It's a part of the entire brand, okay? Some categories move upward, some categories move -- . We are not treating it at a separate format.

Rushabh Shah

analyst
#19

Yes. So, sir, what do you think about this segment? Can this segment going ahead in the next, let's say, 4 to 5 years can be as big as the jeans segment we have?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#20

Too early to speak about it. As I said that we are treating it as a category only, or as one of the category sales for us. We are not treating it as a separate or a sub brand.

Rushabh Shah

analyst
#21

Okay. So my next question is I wanted to know from the vision perspective....

Pankaj Jain

executive
#22

Little bit loud, please.

Rushabh Shah

analyst
#23

Yes. Sir, I wanted to know more from your vision perspective. And this question is not for just, let's say, 2 to 3 years but a long-term thought process. The question is that newer brands or categories like Killer Junior, Kraus, and also the older ones like Lawman, Integriti, do you think these can become as big as the Killer brand? And any steps we have taken, we can see them as a huge brand like Killer jeans over the coming years?

Hemant Jain

executive
#24

See, every brand was launched with a separate mindset, separate price bracket and a separate TG? Okay. Definitely, we had some problems for some of the brands, okay, we have restrategized our strategy, and we have started seeing traction towards it. And I definitely feel that all the such brands have that potential to go where Killer is as of today.

Operator

operator
#25

Your next question comes from the line of [ Arpan Rathore ] from Insight Advisory.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#26

Congratulations on a great set of numbers, and more encouraging is the revision and guidance upward, even considering the current market volatility. So my question is emanating from that only, what is the impact of war on us obviously, we're not too much in export, but the raw material prices have increased substantially across commodities. So what is the impact? Are we able to pass on in terms of revision in price or are we looking at revision in channel pricing?

Hemant Jain

executive
#27

[Foreign Language] We don't want to lose the revenue. Some percentage we will pass on to the consumer. We don't know as such [Foreign Language] We don't want to loss the revenue. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#28

That's good to hear. Any color on the working cap.

Hemant Jain

executive
#29

[Foreign Language] Yes, sir, please. Hello?

Operator

operator
#30

Yes, sir. The line for the current participant has dropped from the queue. We'll move on to the next question. The next question comes from the line of Lakshminarayanan K G from Tunga Investments.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#31

Yes. Good results, especially on the working capital front you have done pretty well. And I think you have sustained the operating margins also, recently enhanced it a couple of basis points. Sir, a few questions from a sale of Kraus brand, how that actually contributed to the growth for the full year? I think this full year is the first financial year with Karus both in the base line as well as towards the end of Fy '26? That is my question.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#32

Growth for Kraus have been in upwards of more than 20%.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#33

And how much Kraus contributes now? Is it when compared to last year to this year?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#34

We generally give the numbers on a consol basis scenario. We don't give brand-wise numbers.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#35

Got it. And in terms of -- because there has been some -- due to GST, there has been some pricing revisions. And is there any stock level loss we had to take? Or is that entire the pre-GST stock has been out of the system. Just tell me, how that actually got handled?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#36

After the GST changes, which was happened on 22nd of September, okay, for the first -- the third quarter, the company had to pass on the entire GST benefit to the consumer, okay? Going forward or maybe for FY '26, we feel that the impact of GST is neutral for the company. For some brands, it's more and for some brands, it's less.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#37

And any price increases we have taken in the last few months?

Hemant Jain

executive
#38

[Foreign Language] We have that room.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#39

And the e-commerce channel, is it growing ahead of your growth? Or is it in line with your company's growth?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#40

It's in line with the company.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#41

Okay. And in terms of full price sales, can you just give a sense of how much it was for the menswear and the womenswear -- because around 65%.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#42

Full-price sell through is close to around 60%.

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#43

Okay. And when you started the year and ended the year, what are the areas which actually did better than what you anticipated for FY '26? And what are the areas which did not do well as per your expectations for FY '26?

Hemant Jain

executive
#44

[Foreign Language] End of the day we have to achieve that business target. [Foreign Language] Yes. We are focusing on Tier 3. [Foreign Language]

Lakshminarayanan K G

analyst
#45

Got it. And sir, in the other segment, which includes innerwear and perfume, glasses and so many other things that has actually also grown ahead of our overall growth, I believe, right? Can you just explain as to within that, which segment is growing in the other faster?

Hemant Jain

executive
#46

Our major focus is on the apparel business. All the accessories business is impulse buying. [Foreign Language] Our major focus is on the apparel side like jeans, shirt, trouser, t-shirt, winterwear, jackets, sweatshirts, sweaters. So our major focus is on that. We are not major focusing on the innerwear or some socks or some of the accessories business. Yes, we do that. But it's -- because the brand is all about the lifestyle, we have to keep all these things, but our major focus is on the apparel.

Operator

operator
#47

The next question comes from Manoj Thakur from Motilal Oswal.

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#48

Congratulations on great set of numbers, both on the operational front and as well as on the revenue growth. So I just had a couple of questions on my side. So regarding our development and progression of Kraus on the margin front, how we were back about 1 year back and how we are doing now? What has been our focus in creating the additional EBITDA margin that we can get from Kraus?

Hemant Jain

executive
#49

[Foreign Language]

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#50

Yes, yes. Great set of number, sir, as I said. On a store guidance level, what are we targeting for next couple of quarters and full year?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#51

Full year should be around net around 50 to 70-odd stores.

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#52

These are all majorly EBOs.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#53

All EBOs. We are talking about EBOs only.

Operator

operator
#54

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Arpan Rathore from Insight Advisory.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#55

So my -- continuing from the conversation wherein I dropped off. Can you give some sense on the working capital.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#56

Can you be a little louder and clearer?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#57

Okay. My question is regarding the working capital. What are the short-term and long-term working capital days, which we are looking at?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#58

Okay. The working capital should stay anywhere between a limit of 130 to 140-odd days.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#59

And this is same for Kraus and the company on a stand-alone basis?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#60

This is the overall limit structure. Okay, Kraus, it will be a little higher.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#61

Any specific reason?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#62

Okay. Most of it business is skewed towards LFS and retail. That is the reason.

Hemant Jain

executive
#63

Definitely, we are the manufacturing company. We are not the vendor-based selling [Foreign Language] There is a WIP, so when we are manufacturing [Foreign Language].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#64

Very true.

Hemant Jain

executive
#65

[Foreign Language].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#66

Right. So my second question is linked to that only. Kraus currently, everything is outsourced in terms of manufacturing. This is correct, right?

Hemant Jain

executive
#67

True. Yes.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#68

So and considering that we have on a stand-alone basis, enough capacities wherein we can actually work -- absorb that manufacturing also. Any plan there?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#69

That's not the plan for the immediate future also, okay? Currently, the KKCL is only operating at 100% efficiency structure.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#70

Okay. So any CapEx, which considering that the growth targets have been revised upwards, obviously, with acquisitions, but then also on a stand-alone basis, you will need some capacity expansions.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#71

So, not much, okay? As we said, okay, close to around INR 30 crores to INR 35 crores is the requirement for CapEx. That includes the front end as well as the back end on a year-on-year basis.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#72

Sure. Secondly, in the opening remarks, you had made a pointed remark on growth with alongside acquisitions. So any plan which have been drawn up? I know it's very difficult to point at any specific company currently, but which segment or like we did Kraus, so which would be the other segment which we will be looking at? Any broad strategies around that? Obviously, the name value, everything can't be discussed currently, but broad, broad parameters just for our understanding.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#73

So more importantly, we are right now open for all the company structure. We just define whether we can add to the synergies and we look at it from an ROCE perspective, whether we -- that synergy and ROCE can deliver. Okay? We are also -- we are open for our competitive categories also as well as premium as well as the value segment. We are even open for any gender specific.

Operator

operator
#74

The next question comes from the line of Sahil Doshi from Thinqwise.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#75

Just one on the Integriti, which we said has done exceedingly well this quarter. And so could you just talk a little more on Integriti and for FY '27 with the pivot in the brand strategy, can we start expecting better numbers on that?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#76

Yes. Okay. We have changed the price strategy for that, and we have started seeing interesting results. We have also started gaining counters on the multi-brand as well as same-store formats. We feel, okay, the growth will be in line as what we are talking about the company.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#77

Okay. So meaning the transition in terms of modern trade and number of counters, are we complete in terms of the entire plan?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#78

No... There is huge vacuum left yet.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#79

Okay. Understood. Understood. Okay. So additionally, basically, these all new pivots from Lawman and Integriti should start contributing higher...

Pankaj Jain

executive
#80

From first quarter of this year itself.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#81

Okay. So if I had to just correlate, if I see stand-alone, which is your traditional business, say, this quarter, maybe it's been 8% kind of growth and for full year is 13%. So directionally, do we think that this should start picking up at a much higher level?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#82

Should be. Should be an upward of 15%.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#83

Should be upwards of 15%. Understood. Sure. And just a follow-on in terms of brand -- if I see the segment mix, the bottom and the denim, which typically have higher margins. This quarter, we've seen an improvement in terms of the share of bottoms and denims. But if I see in the stand-alone, at least our gross margins are now showing a similar momentum. So is there some strategic call here? Or I just wanted to get a sense on this.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#84

So the mix would have also changed because of the change in the price brackets for some of the brands, right?

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#85

Okay, Okay. That is -- so a, because I think we used to say 41%, 42% gross margin should be normal on an annualized basis. Is that the which should get?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#86

Okay. But going forward also, the gross margin should stay anywhere between 41% to 43% range.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#87

41% to 43% Understood. And just lastly, we've spoken about a few pivots and you made a presentation on that. So if you can talk about some of these pivots and where are we in that journey and anything further if you can -- ?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#88

Sahil, this year, actually, okay, there were too many things, okay? We also had the organic brands, which were looking at re-strategizing, which we feel we have been able to do. And that's the reason we have slowed down our pivots in the last quarters, okay? The pivots would take a scale from this quarter.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#89

Okay. Any particular pivots in particular, which will be the focus for '27, FY '27?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#90

Too early to answer that, Sahil, maybe a quarter 2 con call or a quarter 3 con call, we'll be able to elaborate on that.

Sahil Doshi

analyst
#91

Understood. Great work on the balance sheet, again, yes.

Operator

operator
#92

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Manoj Thakur from Motilal Oswal.

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#93

I'm rejoining again. Sir, one clarification on the movement of other income that we have seen in FY '26 Q4. Can you put some light on that?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#94

Other income?

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#95

Yes.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#96

The other income has gone down. If you're talking about the quarter or the full financial year?

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#97

Quarter, quarter. This quarter.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#98

Quarter -- okay, -- it's generally mark-to-market, and that's the reason it has gone down and...

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#99

Okay. So majorly is that, what would be the quantum of the mark-to-market?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#100

So if you look at the annualized number, okay, our other income should stay with somewhere between INR 30 crores to INR 35 crores.

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#101

Okay. Okay. Got it. And also one more question coming related to Kraus. There are any plans to do a further acquisition of the remaining shares?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#102

Not for the first 5 years.

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#103

Okay. And in the strategy that we said then we would do one more inorganic thing. Would that be a 100% full buyout? Or how would be the structure or we can get the details later on?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#104

Okay. We'll update you about the company and after the buyout actually happens.

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#105

Okay. Okay.

Hemant Jain

executive
#106

Manoj, [Foreign Language]. I can't say anything right now. If the deal is not happen [Foreign Language].

Manoj Thakur

analyst
#107

Yes, yes. Agreed, agreed.

Operator

operator
#108

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Arpan Rathore from Insight Advisory.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#109

Sir, one question on the store addition target. How many store -- company-owned company-operated stores we are looking to add up in this year?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#110

We are looking at close to around 50 to 70-odd stores net to be added, okay? Generally, we try that, okay, that proportion stays close to around 15% as compared to 85% franchisee stores. But however, okay, if any good deal structure happens, so that mix, I can update you on more on quarter-on-quarter basis.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#111

Sure. And the SSG numbers, which we have started disclosing, that's a welcome move. And this is for -- would be for company-owned stores only, right?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#112

For total -- yes, yes, for all the EBOs.

Operator

operator
#113

Your next question comes from the line of Madhur Rathi from Counter Cyclical Investments.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#114

Sir, firstly, sir, instead of paying dividends, sir, have we thought about doing a share buyback?

Hemant Jain

executive
#115

It's a company policy boss, [Foreign Language] already the promoter have 74-pointsome percentage. [Foreign Language] Because it's too early to say anything. And not even we are thinking on that.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#116

[Foreign Language]

Pankaj Jain

executive
#117

We say that, our working capital is should stay somewhere between 130 to 140 odd days, and it will stay in that limit only. The business has also expanded from the base as you are asking for.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#118

Understood, sir. Sir, for this FY '27, sir, what kind of top line are we looking at?

Hemant Jain

executive
#119

[Foreign Language]

Pankaj Jain

executive
#120

As we said in this con call also, growth strategy organically stays somewhere between 15% to 18% scenario. However, if we look at any inorganic growth, the growth strategy for a 3-year period stands at 20%.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#121

For CAGR?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#122

CAGR, yes.

Hemant Jain

executive
#123

Yes. [Foreign Language] even including 2022, 2026, we are growing by 18.6%, and we will maintain that.

Operator

operator
#124

The next question comes from the line of Naveen Baid from Nuvama Asset Management.

Naveen Baid

analyst
#125

Just wanted to check what was the same-store sales growth for the quarter?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#126

I have already updated the SSG growth for quarter 4 was around 6.8%.

Naveen Baid

analyst
#127

And what was the same-store sales growth for the full year?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#128

9.4%.

Operator

operator
#129

[Operator Instructions] We have a follow-up question coming from the line of Madhur Rathi from Counter Cyclical Investments.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#130

Sir, where do we see our average selling price moving over the next 2 to 3 years with Kraus under our acquisition? Do we expect the jeans, which is a higher ASP product to scale from the current 50% level? So how should we look at that?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#131

See, it was a subdued for denim as a category for last year, okay? This year, we have started seeing that again, the momentum has increased for denim, okay? If that starts happening, definitely, we'll be able to gain much market share. The brands -- most of the brands of KKCL, including Kraus are known for denim wear.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#132

Right. Sir, going forward, either in terms of acquisition or in terms of organic growth, do we see the denim segment increasing as a percent -- the category mix. So what it is 48% currently, can we expect it to move to 50%, 60% over the maybe next 2 to 3 years as well as any acquisition?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#133

I would put it like this, okay, 5 years or 7 years down the line, it was in upwards of close to around 60%. We have intended and tried to derisk the entire category mix and come down to close to around 45% or 48%. I think with the retail expansion, all the categories move in the similar percentage structure. So I think it should stay in the similar mix of what it is as of today.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#134

And sir, on the acquisition, sir, so where do we see this acquisition in terms of price point? Will it be a higher ASP price point whenever that happens? Or would it be on the similar price point that we are currently present in?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#135

On the value channel, see, for Kewal Kiran, everything is open. We are generously menswear led, more casual driven, more denim-centric, okay, there is a lot of vacuum on other side aspects. which can -- which we feel that KKCL can still synergize and explore. That's one. Secondly, if there is something coming on the denim aspect, we are not even disputing that we should not look at it. So KKCL is open on the gender mix that includes ladies and kids, okay? On the menswear also, I feel there is more room on the value segment as well as upper premium price market.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#136

Right. So nothing concrete as of now.

Pankaj Jain

executive
#137

That's true.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#138

Okay. Got it. [Foreign Language]

Pankaj Jain

executive
#139

The vision statement was made a year before, where we had projected at close to around 15% to 18%, okay? We have already delivered at 20%. We are changing our growth strategy for going forward from 15% to 20%, where we again say that 51%, 15% will be organic and that 20% will be from any inorganic buyout, -- so -- but it will be within a 3-year period. So 1 year has already lapsed, okay, maybe in the next 2 years perspective. But if you look at the 3-year CAGR, I'll be able to deliver at 20%.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#140

Understood, sir. And sir, [Foreign Language] EBO, that is company-owned or franchisee-owned franchisee operated?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#141

It's a mix of both of them.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#142

So what is the breakup?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#143

Generally, we -- okay, right now, I think it should be around 15% to 20% should be COCO and 80% should be franchisee-owned franchisee operated. But going forward, that mix can change.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#144

Sir, and what is the ballpark CapEx in one EBO -- to set up one EBO in terms of CapEx and working capital?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#145

So overall, as I said, that the CapEx required should be around INR 30 crores to INR 35 crores on the company level, okay? That includes the front end as well as COCO stores.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#146

Understood, sir. And sir, what were the exports for the current year? And sir, are we doing white label exports or exporting under our own brand?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#147

Okay. We are exporting most of our brands, and it is under our brand name only.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#148

Okay. Okay. And sir, finally, sir, what is the rental as a percentage of top line?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#149

We have very less COCO stores as of now. So removing that percentage will be very mincule.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#150

Okay. Okay. Understood. Sir, going forward, sir, the strategy is to do COCO or FOFO?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#151

I'm again saying, okay, we have explored the Tier 2 and Tier 3 well in advance, where we are able to grab the FOFO franchisee operation stores. Okay? Going forward, okay, it's a mix perspective, which will be coming and the mix will keep on changing on a year-on-year basis.

Madhur Rathi

analyst
#152

Sir, and between our e-commerce multi-brand store, EBO, sir, so where is the margin highest? And how much working capital is required in each of these channels?

Pankaj Jain

executive
#153

See, we generally give the bifurcation of retail and non-retail, where retail it contributes -- includes EBO stores and LFS, while all other channels are part of non-retail. On the channel, the composite mix on the EBITDA margins is almost similar on both the levels, so is the working capital.

Operator

operator
#154

As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to Mr. Hemant Jain for closing comments.

Hemant Jain

executive
#155

Thank you once again for joining us today. We truly value your continued support and confidence in KKCL journey. Should you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out our Investor Relations team. Thank you, and have a great day ahead. Thank you so much.

Operator

operator
#156

Thank you. On behalf of Kewal Kiran Clothing Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you, everyone, for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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