Kofola CeskoSlovensko a.s. (KOFOL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 26, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Lenka Frostová
executiveLadies and gentlemen, welcome to Kofola's 2020 First Quarter Results Conference Call. You will now hear a recording of the summary of the group's results presented by Group CEO, Janis Samaras, and Group CFO, Martin Pisklák. This will be followed by business insights presented by CzechoSlovakia CEO, Daniel Buryš.
Janis Samaras
executiveDear investors, we finished third quarter of 2020, and we can proudly say that EBITDA in third quarter was the highest in the Kofola Group history. We are very satisfied with the strength of our traditional brands and our customers' loyalty. Also both Ondrášovka and Karlovarská Korunní, our important acquisitions, make me happy. Their integration is smooth and performance even above our expectations. But there are also bad news. Currently, we all have to face second lockdown and its consequences on our personal lives and businesses. Mainly, HoReCa segment is reporting huge losses. However, due to strong summer season, our EBITDA target for 2020 remain above CZK 950 million. Utilizing lessons learned in that current year, we are intensively preparing for the upcoming year. We believe in our ability to produce even better results. Last but not least, I would like to thank all our customers, suppliers, employees and other important parties who are helping us overcome these difficult times. Thank you. I am now handing you over to Martin and Daniel who will comment on our business results in greater detail.
Martin Pisklák
executiveGood afternoon, dear investors. My name is Martin Pisklák, and I am Group CFO. Yesterday, Kofola Group published financial results for the third quarter. I am happy to announce that we were successful, not only in the financial numbers but also in business innovations. We managed to launch a new Italian coffee brand named Trepallini, and also we enlarged our rPET portfolio with Radenska Naturelle 0.5 liter in a fully rPET PET bottle, which was also significantly light weighted. Our key financial indicators were improving. We increased our revenues by 11.6%, and we managed to increase our EBITDA to CZK 557 million, which means increase by 27.8% compared to third quarter in 2019. This extraordinary growth was attributable mainly to our CzechoSlovakia business, which was extraordinarily successful in 3Q 2020. On the other hand, our revenues in Adriatic region decreased by 6.7%. This was mainly attributable to lack of tourists in Croatia during the main season. Due to this fact, our EBITDA in Adriatic region decreased by CZK 15 million. We see negative trends also in our Fresh & Herbs division. Decrease of this division is driven mainly by weaker UGO performance. In 3 quarter, revenues of Fresh & Herbs division decreased by 11.6%, and the EBITDA remained almost flat, however, still negative, minus CZK 5 million. Year-to-date results are also positive. Our revenues are practically flat in the first 9 months of 2020, and this is mainly to very good third quarter and our acquisitions Ondrášovka and Korunní. EBITDA for the first 9 months totaled CZK 906 million, which represents increase by CZK 46 million compared to first 9 months in 2019. We are also keeping healthy balance sheet. Our trade receivables are still in very good quality. We improved a lot in cash flow management. In the end of September, we did not utilize our overdraft credit facilities, and we are also benefiting from the fact that the interest rate decreased very significantly in 2020. However, fourth quarter is slightly different story. Our UGO outlets are closed and the HoReCa segment is reporting huge losses. We expect that autumn lockdown will be more negative compared to the spring one. We expect that the HoReCa segment will be significantly limited at least until the year-end. However, due to strong third quarter, we are still keeping our EBITDA forecast between CZK 950 million to CZK 1 billion. Worth of mentioning is also the fact that the general meeting of Kofola Group approved the annual dividends on the level of CZK 13.5 per share. This dividend will be paid off in the beginning of December. Thank you very much for your attention.
Daniel Buryš
executiveGood morning, investors. Here is Daniel speaking. I'm responsible for Kofola Czech and Slovak soft drink business. I think Janis summarized the main trends in 2020, so let me briefly comment Q3's success and Q4 expectation. Q3. Retail on expectations, including post merger of Ondrášovka and Korunní, we grew 30%, and excluding of acquisition, 9%. We are very surprised of successful launch of Kláštorná Kalcia onto very competitive Czech market. We tripled sales of this brand year-to-date. Key role in top season played HoReCa segment. Market unfortunately dropped for 8% in Czech Republic and 20% in Slovakia, but we were able grew not far from 10%. For example, our HoReCa market share in cola category in Slovakia is unbelievable, 60%. Key factors of success: maximum focus on growth of Kofola; flexible change of trade marketing strategy from big events, festivals to direct outlet support, Cannes, KOFOKINO seasoned outlets. And of course, we are not so dependent on foreign tourist destinations like Prague. But Q3 is history. Now HoReCa is locked down again. From my point of view, it's a positive fact that more than 30% outlets are open for takeaway. Soft drink sales are, of course, close to 0, but it shows that HoReCa as a segment could survive. We expect reopening next week in Czech Republic. In Slovakia, the situation is more complicated. We, of course, fully focus on retail Christmas season. HoReCa team fully supports retail. Q4 lockdown impact will be similar as spring. But for HoReCa as a segment, the situation is now more complicated because of -- because after spring lockdown, they entered to top season. Now they will open their outlets to lowest season, which is for many of them unprofitable. We expect more outlets closing. It could reach a level between 15% and 20%. We have to be ready for negative market development in first half 2021. Thank you for your attention. And I believe that Kofola confirmed in bad times that our business model is efficient and flexible. See you next time. Bye.
Lenka Frostová
executive[Operator Instructions] We have a first question from Mr. Pavel Ryska.
Pavel Ryska
analystFirst of all, thank you for the presentation and congratulations on a very good third quarter result. My question is directed at the comparison between the current quarter, the fourth quarter and the spring situation. So you said that you think this is going to be more difficult for you than in the spring. A connected thing is that I was, to be honest, a little surprised by the guidance. I saw that after the relatively strong third quarter, the guidance could be raised because the difference between EBITDA for the first 9 months of the year and your goal, your current guidance, is quite small. So it seems to me that this implies that the fourth quarter should be very weak. So if you could comment on the expected drop in the main categories in the fourth quarter and why you think that even the strong Christmas season is not going to compensate for the losses in October and November.
Janis Samaras
executiveWe really believe that the second lockdown will be much more difficult for us compared to the first one. As already Daniel Buryš said, there are several differences in between of these 2 lockdowns. First one is that the first lockdown was followed by the main season. The second lockdown should be followed by the biggest off-season which we have during the year. We are also talking to restaurant owners. And in the spring, basically some 10% of the restaurants were expected to be closed after the lockdown. Now during the second lockdown, the number increased from 15% to 20% of the restaurants. And that's why we believe that these are the main drivers for our very conservative estimation for the last quarter. The true is that during the first lockdown, we calculated the COVID impact to approximately CZK 100 million. Now we are calculating the COVID impact to almost CZK 200 million because in 2019, the last quarter -- EBITDA in the last quarter totaled some CZK 250 million. Now we expect EBITDA in between CZK 50 million and CZK 100 million.
Pavel Ryska
analystSo if I can have 1 or 2 follow-ups. It makes sense what you are saying, this logic with the high season and the off-season. Still, I was thinking that maybe the retail sales around Christmas are strong enough for you to compensate for the weak HoReCa in the winter. And second question touches more the next year. What is your input prices outlook for next year, as usual, the prices of sugar, the PET resin and other prices? So what do you think? Is it going to be pretty much the same as this year? Or do you think there will be some big changes in some of your main inputs?
Janis Samaras
executiveSo first part of your question regarding the retail sales. Our retail sales, especially in December, are traditionally very high and very strong. So we do not count on some extraordinary sales through the retail channel in December as we have usually very strong sales already. And regarding the second questions on the input prices. At the moment, we are finishing the negotiations and monitoring very closely the situation for the next year. It seems that our 2 major commodities that increase the price -- I mean, sugar and PET, the prices will increase by some 10% to 15% at the moment for next year.
Lenka Frostová
executive[Operator Instructions] We have next question from Mr. Jan Raška.
Jan Raska
analystI have one question on Kláštorná water. It seems that this brand has good performance in the CzechoSlovakia market. So can you tell us what revenues do you expect from Kláštorná this year?
Janis Samaras
executiveThis year, we expect the revenues from the Kláštorná around CZK 100 million on the CzechoSlovakia market.
Lenka Frostová
executive[Operator Instructions] Now we have a question from [ Mr. Josef Karasek ].
Unknown Analyst
analystCongratulations to very strong results for Q3 versus the previous year. I'm interested to understand, but what contributed to your strong growth versus previous year? What were the drivers or contributors on revenue, profit and margin?
Janis Samaras
executiveThank you for this question. In general, the biggest contributor in the third quarter was our business in CzechoSlovakia, so the traditional beverages brands, like Kofola, Vinea, Rajec; and syrups. We saw the huge trend in local consumption during the summer, mainly because people were not traveling abroad. They spend their holidays at home. And we have very loyal customers and consumers. So basically, people spending holidays in Czech Republic and Slovakia, they were drinking Kofola, and that's why we are able to report such a very nice results.
Unknown Analyst
analystI have still follow-up questions because from your presentation, what I read that your growth came from CzechoSlovakia largely. It came largely from acquisitions, your growth on revenue, which I assume is Ondrášovka and Korunní, and it came from retail channel. In retail channel, your growth was about 60%. Is that correct understanding? And could you describe what happened in that retail channel? Was it due to the acquisitions and the availability? Or what happened there?
Janis Samaras
executiveWell, I'm not sure which numbers are you now commenting, but our retail channel for sure did not grow by 60% in the third quarter. The true is that the growth was partly driven by our acquisition of Ondrášovka and Korunní, if I should make approximation. So if we grew up by some 12% on the revenue level in CzechoSlovakia, then let's say, that 9% of this growth was attributable to new sales from Ondrášovka and Korunní and the remaining 3% was the growth of our brands which were in the portfolio already in previous year.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd the last one is how much of that is recurring growth, growth that will continue? Or is it one-off? From those drivers, mainly the 9% you described?
Janis Samaras
executiveWell, the 9% was the contribution to sales from Ondrášovka and Korunní. The numbers which we are presenting in the presentations are like without one-offs, then are recurring. So we are presenting just continuing operations.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo you would expect that those trends shall continue.
Janis Samaras
executiveYes. Yes. For sure, in next 2 quarters or 3 quarters -- or 2 quarters, this will be the fact, the numbers will be fully comparable. So the effects of the new portfolio members, Ondrášovka and Korunní, will disappear in the presentation in the second quarter of 2021.
Lenka Frostová
executiveOur next question is from Mr. Petr Bartek.
Petr Bartek
analystCongratulations to the great results. I would ask more to the cost side. If I understood correctly, you expect PET bottles to go up by 10% to 15%, and this applies also to sugar or sweeteners?
Janis Samaras
executiveYes.
Petr Bartek
analystWell, sweeteners as a whole category or only sugar?
Janis Samaras
executiveOnly sugar. The other sweeteners are more or less stable.
Petr Bartek
analystSo it might be 10% to 15% but in single digits for the category.
Janis Samaras
executiveIt will be still double-digit because sugar is majority of our sweeteners.
Petr Bartek
analystOkay. So in Q3, your SG&A costs are basically flat year-on-year, which is good because this is including Ondrášovka. But still, it's some increase compared to the second quarter. So I wonder how much of a cost-cutting exercise from April is sustainable for 2021. Yes, what's your outlook for SG&A costs, if we will increase them or keep it stable?
Janis Samaras
executiveYes. The cost cutting is for sure sustainable. To be honest, I did not recognize any like significant trend in increase of G&A because we did a lot of cuts in the G&A. If I look to the numbers back where it's now, so most probably the answer would be that there was just like different timing of the costs. If I look on our prediction of the G&A costs for the full year 2020, our G&A should decrease for sure, and we should keep this trend also in 2021.
Petr Bartek
analystSo it was probably because of the logistics, the increase in fees.
Janis Samaras
executiveYes. And most probably it would be just the timing, like, difference compared to different years.
Petr Bartek
analystAnd for the next year budget, so basically flat to administrative costs.
Janis Samaras
executiveWe are like pushing for decrease to be more effective, but the flat is the, like, worst case scenario for us. We would like to decrease it.
Petr Bartek
analystAnd if you can elaborate a little bit about your views. I know that's difficult this time, but what is your view on the HoReCa segment for the next year? Because, for example, in Q3, you said that, basically, coronavirus was negative, minus CZK 15 million. But in the HoReCa segment -- not in the HoReCa segment but in the CzechoSlovakia, originally, it was actually positive on the net basis, I would say. So what's your expectation for the HoReCa segment for the next year and also for retail segment for the next year?
Janis Samaras
executiveWell, at the moment, we expect that the HoReCa segment will be closed until the year-end. If the HoReCa segment will be open in December, so the opening will be with very significant limitations on the operation of the restaurants. So at the moment, we are counting with the lockdown. And then we are counting that there should be some limitation basically until the June 2021 in HoReCa. If we are like looking on the predictions of the COVID situation, our current feeling is that HoReCa will be open in the first half of the next year but with some limitations. The question is how big this limitation should be, if this will be only in the opening hours or also like the number of the guests in the restaurants. So that's the most like tricky question in the model because we do not have clarity on this topic. So basically, we are expecting rather like a conservative scenario, so with the bigger limitations. And they will be like working with this scenario also in the first half of 2021.
Petr Bartek
analystYou said that you expect that some 15% to 20% of restaurants would go out of business, right?
Janis Samaras
executiveYes. Right.
Petr Bartek
analystSo you expect that the consumption will move to the remaining ones or there will be an impact because of the number of restaurants.
Janis Samaras
executiveIt's hard to predict. For sure, part of the consumption will move to other restaurants, but also for sure, part of the consumption will disappear.
Petr Bartek
analystDo you plan any restructuring in the UGO chain or some optimization measures? And also what are you going to do with Croatia? Do you have any strategy over there?
Janis Samaras
executiveI will start with Croatia. In Croatia, we did a lot in the past 2 years. And we believe that once the consumption in Croatia will return to some standard levels, they will be profitable in Croatia. There's no question in this. We moved to our production plant in Lipik, a very significant part of the CSD productions for Adriatic region. So also the production effectivity in the Lipik plant will increase very significantly in next year if, for example, started to produce Pepsi in Studenac, which was previously produced only in our production plant in Slovenia, in [ Radenska ]. So now we have much bigger flexibility in planning of the shifts and managing the production cost in the Adriatic region. And this should, for sure, bring the profits in upcoming years. Regarding UGO, UGO experienced a very hard year in 2020. Basically, it seems that almost 6 months of this year, UGO outlets are closed because of the pandemic situation. And we are working on some new models, which should be applicable for the UGO chain, not to be so much dependent on the traditional outlets as it is today. For example, we are investing quite a lot of time to some platforms like home deliveries, office deliveries and so on. So UGO, the true is UGO is in a big pressure also in our internal planning, but we should be able to come with some like reasonable positive numbers in next year.
Petr Bartek
analystAre you going to reduce the number of bars?
Janis Samaras
executiveThat -- to be honest, that's possible. But I cannot comment on the precise number at the moment.
Petr Bartek
analystSo if I understand it correctly, you're targeting something like above 0 for UGO.
Janis Samaras
executiveFor the next year?
Petr Bartek
analystYes.
Janis Samaras
executiveOr this year? For next year, we would like to be in the positive numbers for sure. But the true is that the numbers will be not, let's say, on the higher tens of millions of Czech crowns. They are in the lower tens of millions of Czech crowns.
Petr Bartek
analystIn the retail segment, can you see any pricing pressure so far? Or you expect some pricing pressure in the next year coming from, I don't know, consumer audits or from input materials, so a very big decrease in price of materials this year? So are you going to pass it on to customers? Or how does it look like?
Janis Samaras
executiveI do not have such an information at the moment. Also, my colleagues did not indicate such an information to me.
Petr Bartek
analystDo you mean from their company or from the market or...
Janis Samaras
executiveFrom my company, CEOs of the divisions.
Petr Bartek
analystCan you see any indications in the market how the pricing situation looks like?
Janis Samaras
executiveAt the moment, I would say that the market is working in very standard way. There are no any price wars or something like this. So I would say that the situation is very standard.
Lenka Frostová
executiveWe have an additional question from Mr. Pavel Ryska.
Pavel Ryska
analystAfter the discussion about costs, so I would just like to sum it up if I am right. So because you expect some of the important costs such as the sweeteners and the plastic to be more costly next year, but you carried out some reductions in SG&A costs this year, so would it be fair to say or expect that next year should see somewhat higher costs overall? I'm now talking about operating costs, not costs on the financial level, but operating costs. And the very final question, do you still expect your net leverage to be somewhere between 3.5 and 4 at the end of the year?
Janis Samaras
executiveYes. I will start from the end. Yes. At the end of the year, our leverage level should be right in between 3.5 to 4. With the current expectations, we will be much more closer to 4. And regarding the first part of your question, I'm not sure if I understood it correctly. So you were asking that the price of sweeteners and PET is increasing. On the other hand, we have some cost reduction in the general administration. So what would be the overall effect on our operating costs? Was it the question?
Pavel Ryska
analystYes, exactly. If you take all the operating costs together, if they are going to be up next year or down compared to this year.
Janis Samaras
executiveAt the moment, I would say, like I do not have like a precise number in this way in front of me. So I would not be like answering the question at the moment.
Lenka Frostová
executiveWe have an additional question from [ Mr. Josef Karasek ].
Unknown Analyst
analystI have 2 questions in terms of expansion of your additions to the portfolio, the acquisitions you've done. Given the success of your water in retail, as far as I understand it, what are your plans -- new water brands to expand into HoReCa? That's number one. And the second question is how do you measure your success with the coffee business? I mean how much would you anticipate that it would contribute to your incremental growth or to your revenue growth for next year or couple of next years?
Janis Samaras
executiveYes. So Ondrášovka and Korunní. Already in 2020, we started with the expansion of Korunní brands to HoReCa segment. We launched a glass bottle to HoReCa segment, and this launch was quite successful. We were quite satisfied with the numbers during the summer. So we are continuing in this activity. And Korunní should be like a local mineral water for the HoReCa market. Regarding the coffee business, we are still at the beginning of our, like, coffee story, but we see a huge potential of coffee business in Czech Republic in general. The market is really fragmented. So we would like to take a substantial part of this market for sure. But I don't want to comment on some like growing indexes for the future for the coffee business as we did not publish the forecast for next year yet.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And one more, the coffee business, do you plan to sell it only on CzechoSlovakia? Or you expand across the countries?
Janis Samaras
executiveAt the moment, the business is running in Czech Republic and Slovakia, and of course, we are like considering if this business model can be successful also in other countries like Slovenia or Croatia.
Lenka Frostová
executiveWe have an additional question from Mr. Petr Bartek.
Petr Bartek
analystI would have follow-up question to the leverage. You said that you expect to be closer to 4x net debt-to-EBITDA by the year-end, which seems a bit high to me. If I take the dividend payout of CZK 300 million and some CapEx of, say, CZK 100 million above EBITDA, it would arrive at something 3.5x or a little bit more. So you expect significantly negative working capital for development in Q4. So related to that, how does it look like with the bank covenants, which are set at 3.5x? So will we receive [ favors ] again? Is it already pre-agreed? Or how does it look like?
Janis Samaras
executiveLet's start from the end. We are now finishing the agreement with our financing banks. The paper is pre-discussed and pre-agreed. In terms of the leverage, like the last quarter for us, still we will be like paying off the dividend. That's true. We will be paying some CapEx, which are still remaining. There is -- there are lease payments also remaining until the end of the year. What is important is that in the end of October, the government moratorium for the bank loans terminated. So basically, in the last quarter, we are also like repaying our current loans, which is kind of pressure -- put pressure on the cash flow. So overall, we really expect that we will come to the level approximately for -- at the moment because...
Petr Bartek
analystThat is the low end of your guidance like CZK 950 million, which you described as very cautious.
Janis Samaras
executiveExactly. Yes. Exactly.
Lenka Frostová
executiveWe have an additional question from Mr. Jan Raška.
Jan Raska
analystSo can you repeat your expectation on retail sales on December in Q4? What's your expectation on December sales in retail?
Janis Samaras
executiveDecember sales in retail should be on the base standard level, namely slightly increase due to the effect that the HoReCa consumption will be limited, but should be, let's say, comparable over the period.
Lenka Frostová
executive[Operator Instructions] This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. A recording of today's call will be available on our web page. You may now disconnect.
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