Kuantum Papers Limited (KUANTUM.NS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 11, 2025

NSEI IN Materials Paper and Forest Products earnings 47 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Kuantum Papers Limited Q1 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Ms. Nupur Jainkunia from Valorem Advisors. Thank you, and over to you, ma'am.

Nupur Jainkunia

attendee
#2

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and a very warm welcome to you all. My name is Nupur Jainkunia from Valorem Advisors. We represent the Investor Relations of Kuantum Papers Limited. On behalf of the company, I would like to thank you all for participating in the company's earnings call for the first quarter of financial year 2026. Before we begin, a quick cautionary statement. Some of the statements made in today's earnings call may be forward-looking in nature. Such forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, which could cause actual results to differ from those anticipated. Such statements are based on management's beliefs as well as assumptions made by the information currently available to the management. Audiences are cautioned not to place any undue reliance on these forward-looking statements in making any investment decisions. The purpose of today's conference call is purely to educate and bring awareness about the company's fundamental business and financial quarter under review. Now I would like to introduce you to the management participating with us in today's earnings call and hand it over to them for their opening remarks. We have with us Mr. Pavan Khaitan, Vice Chairman and Managing Director; Mr. Vikram Khaitan, Chief Financial Officer; and Ms. Prachi Sharma, VP, Corporate Strategy. Without any further delay, I request Mr. Pavan Khaitan to give his opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#3

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the earnings conference call for the first quarter of the financial year 2026. Let me begin by sharing a few business highlights, following which our CFO, Mr. Vikram Khaitan, will take you through the financials. The domestic paper industry continues to face significant challenges, marked by persistently high domestic wood pricing and an influx of competitively priced imports. These pressures have resulted in a visible strain on sales and margins across the sector. Cheaper imports have impacted sales realizations and intensified competition in the domestic market, leading to lower net sales realizations. In response to the sustained industry appeals, the DGTR has recently initiated antidumping investigations into paperboard imports from Indonesia, signaling potential trade protection measures. Despite these hurdles, we are witnessing a clear acceleration in market preferences. There is a robust growing demand for sustainable, recyclable and agro-based paper products, particularly in specialty, food grade and packaging applications. This evolution aligns with tightening regulations, heightened consumer consciousness around environmental stewardship and a broad-based move away from single-use plastics. At Kuantum, we've aligned our long-term strategy with these evolving customer needs and paving the path for responsible and purposeful growth. I'm pleased to update you on our ongoing projects and performance this quarter. Our largest machine at the mill which, is Paper Machine 4 was successfully upgraded on 30th June 2025. With the addition of a modern shoe press from Bellmer, advanced draining and drying systems, a modified wood and oil-heated calendar and upgraded automation, we are poised for a substantial boost in productivity and efficiency. This will also support our diversification into higher-value writing, printing and specialty paper grades. We've also completed the retrofitting of our recovery boiler in July 2025, including the installation of a 2-stage causticizer and a new electrostatic precipitator. This will enhance our chemical recovery efficiency and optimize process performance. Operationally, both Paper Machine 1 and Paper Machine 2 posted their highest ever monthly production figures in this Q1 FY '26. PM 1 reached 1,860 metric tonnes in the month of May and PM 2 achieved its mark of 1,491 metric tonnes in June. On the digitalization front, project Nirman, our Industry 4.0 and AI-driven transformation, is progressing well with stable MAX system performance on key production sections. The Phase 1 implementation for PM 4 is ready to launch in Q2, expected to further enhance productivity, consistency and cost efficiency. From an environmental and sustainability perspective, I would like to share that we are now fully compliant with the European Union deforestation Regulation, which is EUDR, reinforcing our dedication to combating deforestation and promoting the sustainable management of natural resources. Our social farm forestry program has gained traction, and we covered almost 1,400 additional acres in the quarter, bringing the total area under plantation to 13,870 acres and positively impacting nearly 16,000 local farmers. These achievements and initiatives are in line with our vision and commitment towards sustainability, operational excellence and value creation for all our stakeholders. With that, I would now like our CFO, Mr. Vikram Khaitan, to walk you through the financial highlights for the quarter.

Vikram Khaitan

executive
#4

Thank you, sir, and good afternoon, everyone. Let me share a summary of our financial performance for the first quarter of the financial year 2026. For the quarter under review, our operational income stood at INR 223 crores, reflecting a decline of 20.6% year-on-year basis and 19.6% on quarter-on-quarter basis. This was primarily due to planned shutdown of PM 4 for its upgradation, which reduced production by almost 9,000 tonnes and in turn impacted both revenue and EBITDA margins. EBITDA for the quarter was INR 40 crores, down 43.6% year-on-year basis. The EBITDA margin stood at 18.1%. Net profit for the quarter was INR 12 crores, making a decline of 68.3% year-on-year basis. PAT margins were reported at 5.4%. With this, we can now begin the question-and-answer season.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] We have our first question from the line of Manan Poladia from MKP Securities.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#6

Sir, my first question is on the lines of the specialty paper thing. So I know that we're one of the only 2 larger companies that are in the space, and we're trying to foray into tissue paper and other specialty grades. If you could provide a bit more color on what specific products are we looking to get into and what the competitive landscape is around that? And my second question is on the CapEx front. If you could provide an update or what sort of time line we are looking at for the CapEx to like get over, that would also be great. I think that's my two questions.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#7

Okay. Thank you for your questions. I'll take them up one by one. On our specialty foray, we are looking at creating largely flexible grade food wrapping papers. And we are getting the rightful coating plant, which is going to be an offline machine and which is also part of this entire CapEx that we have planned for ourselves, and that is going to come on stream during the currency of the -- either this year or latest by next financial year. It took a little bit of time finalizing the technology and the machine components because there is a lot to play around with, and we have to be careful for our kind of CapEx that we are intending to incur. So this is on the specialty front. On the CapEx front itself, our total cost is INR 735 crores, out of which till date, we have already spent about INR 400 crores on the CapEx. This entire CapEx is going to come on stream by June of 2026. But by March of 2026, which is the end of this financial year, the major upgradations of all our machines, which will happen one by one. PM4 was already completed in June. All other machines are going to get upgraded. So the next financial year '26-'27, we'll see the full force of this entire upgradation and the positive impact coming out next year.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#8

Sir, just a follow-up on the specialty paper thing. If you could -- since you're getting into food grade wrapping papers, I know there's one more other company that's in this. But apart from that, if you could explain the competitive landscape a little bit more, that would be really great.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#9

So I think competitive analysis, the environment is positive because the kind of consumer offtake that is going to happen because of the single-use plastic ban is going to be quite positive. The demand is going to grow. And we are going to see a fair bit of competition coming in with people wanting to invest in this category. At the moment, as you rightly said, there is one big operator in the industry, but there are a lot of small time operators who've taken single, single machines and buying paper from outside, coating them and creating the rightful product. How effective they are versus us, how effective we will be, time will tell. But I'm hopeful that with our kind of size and our kind of technical advancements, we should be able to fare quite better.

Operator

operator
#10

We have our next question from the line of Krushi Parekh from BugleRock PMS.

Krushi Parekh

analyst
#11

So my first question is that how much of the decline in sales and profitability can be attributed to the planned shutdown? And is there anything else that you would want to bring out apart from that?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#12

Yes. It's a good question, Krushi. The shutdown, which undoubtedly was planned and it was for a period of almost 25 days, as enumerated by our CFO, it led to a reduction of almost 9,000 tonnes, which has greatly impacted the performance of this quarter alone. And we just did an analysis in our Board meeting also that had this not happened, we would have maintained our EBITDA margins at 22%, which we recorded even in Q4 of last year. So I may say that EBITDA margins would have been in place. However, the sales reduction is on account of a margin variation, which is very, very marginal. Hardly any variation in sales pricing of this quarter. So I think the majority of the reduction in sales value and EBITDA is on account of the loss of production due to the planned shutdown.

Krushi Parekh

analyst
#13

So can we expect -- because we intend to upgrade our machines one by one over this current financial year, so can we expect a similar kind of numbers for next 2, 3, 4 quarters as well?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#14

No, I wouldn't say so. As I said, PM 4 is our largest machine where our output is almost 300 tonnes per day. So the impact is more. Other machines, 2 machines are about 40 tonnes each and 1 machine is 120 tonnes. So the impact will be much lower. And by that time -- during the time that they will be shut down, our PM 4 is also going to work at a higher capacity.

Krushi Parekh

analyst
#15

Okay. I understand. And second thing, sir, about this antidumping investigation that the government is undertaking. How can we understand the stage at which these investigations are and how do we update ourselves in terms of, if at all, any potential action will come on these imports or not. So I'm just trying to get some sense on how can we measure it, how can we follow it up?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#16

I'll let Prachi answer that for me.

Prachi Sharma

executive
#17

So the DGTR has just initiated the investigations, particularly into virgin multilayered paperboard from Indonesia. So I think this is the beginning of these kind of investigations where the DGTR has taken cognizance of the fact that the domestic industry has been impacted by routing of imports through Indonesia, whether it is from China or other Southeast Asian countries. So right now, since it's at the inception stage, they've just launched it in July. It remains to be seen as to how this progresses. And basis this complaint and the Indian Papermakers Manufacturers Association, IPMA, which is following up, whether this gets extended to other grades of paper as well because the industry has been talking to the government for protection from these FTAs and also these routings from Southeast Asia.

Krushi Parekh

analyst
#18

Okay. But any specific time line that we can benchmark ourselves from the past other such incidences either in the paper industry or in some another industry that we can work with?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#19

So normally, these things do take its course and time. Nothing can be expected in a short while. But I think only time will tell since it's the government who is in control of this entire process and they don't reveal much. One only gets to know once the process is complete. I understand that we may look at about 4 to 6 months for some kind of impact to come in. But it could go even up to a year, 12 months or so.

Operator

operator
#20

[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of Arihant from Bowhead India Fund.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#21

Sir, I wanted to know since the start of this year from April '25, has there been any increase or decrease in paper prices, if you can tell in rough percentage terms?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#22

So this quarter, Q1, we, in fact, witnessed a slight marginal increase in prices compared to Q4. we were able to increase our prices by about up to 1%, about 0.7%, 0.8%. However, in July and August, prices have declined up to 7% to 8% from June quarter.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#23

Okay. Sir, and how do you see the outlook in short term, like in next 3, 4 months? Do you expect them to remain at current levels? Or do you expect them to increase?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#24

So normally, this Q2 is the lean season of the industry. So this reduction in pricing is on expected lines. We are quite well versed with handling such kind of declines through our own operations and efficiencies because on the other side, even raw material input and pricing helps us maintain our margins. In future, 2 things will happen. The printing and publishing industry comes into vigor post Diwali. And this year, Diwali is also earlier on 20th of October. So we will witness a price increase and escalation happening by middle of October or so. Also, this year around, the government tenders have opened up much earlier as compared to the previous years. So the moment they are floated and executed, that is going to release a lot of pressure from the market side and the demand and supply situation will get balanced out. And that will also help in price stability and with an upward trend.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#25

Okay. Sir, can you provide some color like what led to the decline in July and August paper prices by 7% to 8%, a steep decline?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#26

As I said, this is the lean season. The demand for paper sort of declines a bit because everybody starts preparing for the new education year, which is '26-'27 only post Diwali. All the printing happens post Diwali, and that's when the paper industry picks up. So this we consider as normal for the industry. And this trend as we've been witnessing for the past many years, nothing untoward about it.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#27

Okay. Got it. And one more question I wanted to ask regarding like the investigation has started for the paperboards category. So any color whether -- regarding investigation on writing and printing paper, when it will happen or if the government will take that.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#28

We are hopeful because IPMA is representing on behalf of the industry, and we are thankful to them that they have taken up the cause for at least investigating into paperboards. Paper can follow next, we are hopeful.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#29

Sir, how has the competitive intensity been from imports? Has this been like similar to last quarter? Or has the intensity increased?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#30

It's very, very similar. It's not increased. It's very similar. So it's nothing alarming.

Operator

operator
#31

[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of [ Tanmay Mota ] from Lucas Investments.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

Hi Sir, can you hear me?

Operator

operator
#33

No.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#34

A bit unclear.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#35

Hi sir, can you hear me now?

Operator

operator
#36

No Tanmay, your voice is quite breaking.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#37

Is it still breaking?

Operator

operator
#38

Yes. Can you move to a better network area?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#39

Yes, one second. Can you hear me now?

Operator

operator
#40

Yes, a bit better.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#41

It's much better.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#42

I just had two questions. So one was on the lines of sort of global [indiscernible].

Operator

operator
#43

Sorry to interrupt you Tanmay, but we are not able to hear you properly. I request you to rejoin again.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#44

Yes, I'll just rejoin.

Operator

operator
#45

We have our next question from the line of Tejas Khandelwal from Prudent Equity.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#46

Yes. So sir, would you be able to give the capacity expansion for each of our machines and the time line? Like the Machine 4 contributes highest part of our capacity? And how much capacity increase you have done in Machine 4 and the remaining 3 machines, how much capacity increase is going to be in each machine and the time line as well?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#47

So PM 4, we were averaging about 275 tonnes per day. That will go up to between 315 and 325 tonnes per day. That also because it depends on the GSM that is being produced on the machine, lower GSMs even at full efficiency will lead to a total overall dipped output. That's why I'm giving a range of 315 to 325 tonnes. Our next upgradation will be PM 1, which will be in November. That current capacity is 45 tonnes. We are planning to take it up to between 80 and 90 tonnes per day. Second, next will be PM 2 in December, very similar to PM 1 from the current about 40, 45 tonnes is going to go up to about 80, 85 tonnes. And third, PM 3 will happen in March of 2026. And from the current levels of about 120 tonnes per day, it will go up to 200 tonnes plus. I hope that answers your question.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#48

Yes, that answers my question.

Operator

operator
#49

[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of Karan Bhatelia from MAIQ Capital.

Karan Bhatelia

analyst
#50

Sir, my question to you would be, can you give a segment-wise breakup of the papers we are manufacturing between writing and printing and specialty?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#51

So specialty is about 20% of our portfolio and balance will be -- 80% will be writing and printing grades of various qualities, which is Maplitho, Cream Wove, Copier and so on and so forth.

Karan Bhatelia

analyst
#52

So from the 20%, is it a split between tissues and the food like the paper cups, which you talked about, wrapping paper, I mean, sorry.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#53

No. So at the moment, we do not make tissue at all. We are sort of manufacturing various specialty grades, which goes into very, very niche applications like cup stock, which you asked for, there is paper bag, there is straw paper. And these are base papers, which go into multiple applications where we don't directly make the final product, but we give it to converters who convert it into various products of specialty nature. So for instance, there is a thermal paper, which goes out on which all these bills are printed in these automated machines, in the teller machines. So we are making the base paper, then we are making various kinds of colored copier, which goes into high-end office stationery and sort of has a very, very specific application and use.

Karan Bhatelia

analyst
#54

Got it, sir. Sir, what would be the sales realization per tonne on this, if you could give a figure for the specialty paper?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#55

So the sales revenue will be about 3% to 5% higher than writing and printing grades.

Karan Bhatelia

analyst
#56

So from the average INR 70,000 per tonne, you mean to say 4% higher on that number, on INR 70,000?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#57

Yes, please.

Karan Bhatelia

analyst
#58

And sir, going forward, like the capacity expansion we are doing, the split remains the same between specialty and writing and printing? Or are we enhancing more towards specialty?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#59

We will be enhancing. As I said, we will be putting and installing a coating plant and that coating plant will help us manufacture further quantities of specialty grades. So I'm expecting our -- this percentage to go up from 20% to about 30% by the end of next financial year.

Operator

operator
#60

[Operator Instructions] We have a next question from the line of [ Tanmay Mota ] from Locus Investments.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#61

Am I audible?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#62

Yes, Tanmay. Please go ahead.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#63

Yes. So I had one question on the lines of pulp prices. So I just wanted to know how we are sort of impacted by global pulp prices. And I mean, pulp, I mean, having bottomed out globally, are we impacted with global pulp prices? And I mean, if so, then what is the sort of nature we expect in terms of realizations going forward? And secondly, the question is on the lines of raw materials. So I think a few other wood panel manufacturers mentioned that they expect some wood supply to enter the market this year. So how is that shaping up? And what is our sort of expectations on domestic wood prices?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#64

So Tanmay, great question. And this is one answer where I will say I wish I was impacted by wood pricing because they have gone down internationally. Pulp pricing has -- sorry, wood pulp pricing. Wood pulp pricing is currently ruling at about $500 a tonne, which has gradually come down from a high of $600 plus, which maintained during the last year. And even soft -- this is hardwood pulp pricing, even softwood is ruling at about $570 per tonne, which is fairly lower than what it was ruling earlier. But we are not really impacted favorably because of reduction in this pricing because the usage for us for imported pulp is very, very miniscule. No more than 3% to 4% of our complete raw material requirement is furnished by imported wood pulp. But going forward, when we are going to be increasing our production output levels, we are looking at increasing and taking in more imported hardwood pulp for our papermaking. And that is going to lend both a betterment in our quality at reasonable pricing. So that's when the positive impact should come in. And as far as the other question, domestically wood availability that unfortunately is remaining on a high because there is another sector, which is the pulp board sector and the MDF sector, which is also a sector which procures all this wood in a large quantity. So we are facing competition from that sector in terms of wood procurement, availability and pricing. So that is where we've taken on this social farm forestry measure and initiative in a big way. We've already reached about 40 lakh saplings on an annualized basis. And our target is to create 1 crore saplings every year in the next -- by the end of 2 to 3 years from here. And that is going to help generate more availability of wood for us and the industry around us.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#65

Got it. Just a follow-up, sir, if you can -- if it's okay. So I just wanted to...

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#66

Sorry, yes, please.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#67

Yes. Just a follow-up, sir, the follow-up was mainly that I just wanted to know if you can sort of quantify the delta. Like, for example, like say, you said pulp internationally is at $500. So until what price of pulp is the -- what would be the price of domestic pulp of the same quantity, if say, for someone like you who grows it and then uses your own saplings, what would be the delta between your price and the global pulp price? Like until what prices pulp have to fall to sort of make you buy the global pulp?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#68

So today, Tanmay, at $500, it is a kind of a balanced pricing for both imported hardwood and the pulp that we make from locally procured wood. They will be costing us in a similar range of about INR 47,000 to INR 48,000 per tonne. So there is no advantage as of now. However, if domestic pricing starts going up from here, then yes, imported hardwood pulp makes sense and starts getting an advantage. And also the fact that with use of imported pulp, our quality is better. So we are able to establish better efficiencies on our machine production. And that helps that delta, though very marginal, it helps in that additional 0.5% to 1% efficiency on our machines, which comes helpful and comes to our advantage.

Operator

operator
#69

[Operator Instructions] We have a next question from the line of Arihant from Bowhead India Fund.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#70

Sir, just wanted to ask on the imported pulp price. So I wanted to know, like, do you expect the price -- international pulp prices to fall from this level or remain constant? Do you see any new capacities coming up globally, which can further aid in reducing the price? Any color on that?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#71

So I think in the near term, pricing should not see any kind of variability because at the moment, the entire world rate is quite balanced. However, one doesn't know what will happen with the kind of stance the U.S. government is taking in terms of tariffs. So what has happened is that they have increased tariffs from the closer by countries like Mexico and Brazil. Brazil is a big exporter of wood into U.S. So if they feel the heat by not being able to gain on their sales and markets in U.S., they may be able to divert all those pulp capacities to other parts of the world, and that may help in reducing the pricing somewhat. But that only time will tell because these are country-specific decisions. It doesn't something happen in a short term. Long term -- for the long term, as you pointed out, there are no fresh capacities that are there, which are going to help reduce pricing. Availability and supply is quite matched. And I think for the near term, it's going to remain stable. But as a tendency, I think, being the kind of material that it is, it can see an upward trend from Q3, Q4 onwards.

Operator

operator
#72

[Operator Instructions] We have a next question from the line of Manan Poladia from MKP Securities.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#73

Sir, my question is on the ASP right now. I think last quarter, we had said that it was about INR 66,000 per MT. And you said that this quarter, whatever it was and 7%, 8% lower in July and August. One is that? And secondly, if you could also tell me, in '21, '22, when there was a like very weak paper cycle and realization that really shot up, what sort of realization were we getting then? Do you think those realizations are possible again? Or that was just a one-off because of what COVID-led supply pressures or something of that sort? And secondly, sir, on the specialty paper front, I was just wondering if the pricing of specialty paper also fluctuates like printing and writing paper or it's more or less stable at like a negotiated contract price with the customer? How does that work?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#74

So I'll try and answer all your questions one by one. As you rightly said, Q1 of this financial year versus Q4, the prices have remained largely stable other than the about 0.7% to 0.8% increase, which we were able to effect. And yes, the pricing has come down in this Q2, July, August, by about 7% to 8%. And that is largely led by the fact that traditionally, this quarter is a lean season for the industry and pricing generally comes down a bit from Q1 and then starts to rise in Q3 and Q4. With respect to specialty paper, the pricing again gets varied according to the base pricing of writing and printing paper. So if the pricing of writing and printing paper has come down, the pricing of the Specialty segment also, though not by the same percentage term, but yes, it will come down also and start showing some kind of impact. But as I said, the margins or the premium on specialty paper may vary from about 1,500 tonnes to about -- INR 1,500 per tonne to about INR 3,000 per tonne. That premium and margin is better.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#75

But it is affected by rise and fall in paper prices also.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#76

Yes. And I think you also mentioned that '22-'23 was an exceptional year for the paper industry, where we, as an industry, also averaged about between INR 85,000 to INR 90,000 per tonne. That is the kind of pricing that we were getting. I think these kind of milestones come once in a lifetime. And as you rightly suggested, that was the COVID pressure getting released, which led to such a huge increase in the paper industry pricing. We are not likely to witness that kind of surge in pricing. But yes, we can certainly expect it to go up to levels of between INR 75,000 to INR 80,000 in the coming years.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#77

Right, sir. And just one more question on the specialty front, like since we're getting into food grade paper, et cetera. My understanding is that one large competitor that exists has a decent arrangement with some of the large QSR players, right? Just trying to get an understanding of where we would look to break into that market, smaller QSR players or smaller like 1, 2 kitchen sort of like things? Or how would we want to get into that business particularly since they already have an old established over there?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#78

So we will obviously play out differently because we've gained the specialty of serving niche products and niche markets. So since our capacities will be of specialty paper will not be as large as the competition. So we will be looking at creating very, very specific applications, specific products for special needs of our customers. And that is why we will be adopting a very different route and creating a better margin for ourselves.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#79

But what would scalability -- sorry, please continue.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#80

So actually, that's why we are taking a little bit of more time finalizing on offline coating machine for ourselves, we are going to create much more variability and flexibility in being able to make differential grades of specialty paper and thereby allowing us to serve a very, very differential and a wide variety of customers. And that is going to be a stronger USP and strength.

Arihant Baid

analyst
#81

Sir, like I completely understand what you're saying. Just one thing what I'm trying to understand over here is, will that still be scalable domestically? Or will we have to look towards exports in that case? If we want to scale like very niche lines. I'm assuming the market in India would be a relatively smaller market, right?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#82

No. We've done the dipstick study. The market for these kind of papers is fairly big. And so scalability will not be an issue for us. Once we are able to establish this offline coater that we're going to spend on, there we can easily enhance these capacities one by one in modular form and going for increased market output as and when required. The fact is that we are going to be making the base paper ourselves on our individual machines. So please understand that variability comes from not only the base paper, which can be created on each of our 4 machines, which means 4 different kinds of base paper. And then the coating heads, we are going to implement 4 different coating heads, allowing us to make differential varieties of coated specialty papers.

Operator

operator
#83

We have a follow-up question from the line of [ Tanmay Mota ] from Lucas Capital -- Locus Investment.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#84

Hi sir, you can hear me?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#85

Yes, please.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#86

Yes. So I just wanted to ask two questions. One was regarding the packaging sort of industry. So I mean, given on the industry level, packaging seems to be one of the high-growth areas. So any expectations of packaging segment in any way in corrugation, et cetera? And the second question was on the line of the tissue CapEx. So I think there is some capacity which has come up in Western India in tissue, and there's a lot of capacity coming up in South. So I just wanted to understand how is the sort of demand/supply going to go forward in tissue? Is there that much demand for so much new capacity to be absorbed?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#87

So packaging grades is something, again, because of the kind of specialization that is getting catered to the kind of demand that is coming in from Q-com, e-com and everything. Packaging is seeing an uptrend. And the market, no doubt in future is going to play out favorably for the packaging grade of, again, specific grades, specific applications and specialty segments. Similar is the case in tissue as well. Tissue, in fact, is growing at the fastest pace of about 20% annual growth. And yes, it is getting established very clearly as a dominant product in the industry, largely because the base of this segment, particular segment is very, very low and giving us quite a big enough space for people to get into and make business sense out of it.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#88

Okay. Sir, just a follow-up. Do we plan on entering this packaging sort of grade of paper? Or as of now, there is no plan.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#89

No, sorry, packaging is not something that we're looking at, at all other than the flexible packaging grades that we can make from our writing -- I mean, it's called graphic papers. So we are able to make graphic papers on our machines and whatever flexible packaging that can be created from a mix of our graphic papers with the coating plant that we are investing in, that is what we're going to enter, not the normal packaging of the craft varieties that one knows of. And on the tissue side, yes, there is a future plan to go into tissue manufacturing at some point of time.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#90

Okay. And sir, last question from my end. Like just wanted to understand the sort of geo breakup, like given I think paper cannot be transported very long distances, do you plan on going towards the Central or South Indian market? Or as of now, your focus is primarily on the northern sort of market?

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#91

No, we are already available all across the country, Tanmay, though 40% of our production does get sold in the northern market, and that is close to in and around Delhi, and we have a locational advantage there. And also because Delhi market happens to be the largest market for printers and publishers, and paper consumption in India happens in the most volume in around Delhi. But we are already present in the Western, Southern and Eastern sectors of India as of even today and for the last so many years.

Operator

operator
#92

As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Pavan Khaitan

executive
#93

Thank you. Thank you all for participating in this earnings conference call. I hope we were able to answer your questions satisfactorily and at the same time, offer insights into our business. If you have any further questions or would like to know more about the company, please reach out to our Investor Relations managers at Valorem Advisors. Thank you, and wishing you all a great day ahead.

Operator

operator
#94

Thank you, sir. On behalf of Kuantum Papers Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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