Kura Oncology, Inc. ($KURA)
Earnings Call Transcript · March 12, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Etzer Darout
AnalystsHello again, everyone. My name is Etzer Darout, senior biotech analyst at Barclays. It's my pleasure to welcome Kura Oncology to our next fireside chat. With me this morning, I have Troy Wilson, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Brian Powl, Chief Commercial Officer. Just maybe just to get us started, Troy, if maybe you can just make some introductory remarks for the team, and then we'll go into a Q&A.
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. Thanks, Etzer. Thank you to you and Barclays for inviting us to attend the conference. It's always terrific. So as folks probably know, Kura is now a commercial stage fully integrated biopharma focused on developing targeted therapies for both liquid tumors and solid tumors. We have sort of 3 priorities this year that we're going to -- I'm sure we're going to talk about in your Q&A. But the first is to drive the launch of our marketed product, KOMZIFTI to majority market share. The second is we have, I think, the broadest and most aggressive development plan for ziftomenib, which -- or KOMZIFTI throughout the treatment continuum, most notably the front line. And then we have a pipeline of therapies to come that at this point, I think, are just a really attractive call option, and we'll move those forward. Company is very well capitalized, and 2026 is going to be an exciting year.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And maybe just again, given the recent launch of KOMZIFTI, can you just maybe kind of comment on at least what you're observing so far, the feedback that you're getting from KOLs on that sort of initial ramp. And then we'll obviously ask a little bit more around that. Sure. Brian, do you want to take that?
Matt Baer
ExecutivesBrian, you wanna take that?
Brian Powl
ExecutivesYes, happy to. Thanks, for the question. So KOMZIFTI, as we know, was approved back in November of last year. We've had a very successful launch so far. We've really built the messaging and the focus of our discussions with KOLs and prescribers around really 4 points of differentiation for KOMZIFTI. One, we have built on a strong base of efficacy in the relapsed/refractory NPM1-mutant space. The safety profile for KOMZIFTI is viewed by KOLs as differentiated and really meaningful for those -- for the physicians and the patients. Third, the combinability of KOMZIFTI with concomitant medications, the ability not to have to change a lot of your dosing is important. And then finally, the simplicity of once-daily dosing is also something that's resonated. The feedback we've heard so far has been very positive. KOLs are seeing that there is an opportunity to bring KOMZIFTI into the market, and we believe that we'll be able to achieve that majority market share based on -- in this space.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And as you think about 2026, what do you sort of see as the puts and takes to adoption of KOMZIFTI?
Brian Powl
ExecutivesYes. I think it really starts back to the profile. We think that there's opportunity that this is a market where the population of patients are coming in as they progress from their prior line of therapy. We think the opportunity to get patients on KOMZIFTI as a monotherapy really is at that point of decision-making. We see that working for us well so far. In the longer term, we also see the ability, while it's not within our label, a lot of the physicians want to combine with other standard therapies. And within the NPM1 space, patients have other options. They may be able to get things like venetoclax/azacitidine. If they're co-mutated with FLT3, there's an opportunity for them to get gilteritinib. And we're hearing that there may be opportunity to rather than sequence a menin inhibitor after those therapies to potentially combine. So that's one of the areas that we see as an opportunity.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And are you observing any friction points, if you will, I guess, similar experience to other companies potentially in the space around center logistics, prior authorizations, comfort positions, DS monitoring. Anything that you'd want to highlight?
Brian Powl
ExecutivesI would say the one thing I'd like to highlight is we haven't really seen a lot of friction so far. In fact, one of the things that's been quite compelling for us is the rapid uptake from payers to put KOMZIFTI onto their policies has been almost more of an upside surprise. We've had over 80% of private payers have put us on policy in the first 90 days, and that's well ahead of benchmarks. So we've seen a lot of open access for KOMZIFTI to go forward. Haven't really seen any major barriers. It's more than just you got to have the patients that come forward. It's an incident market where patients will be considered for KOMZIFTI, and that's what we're going to be working towards with our field teams.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And obviously, the longer-term plan is to move into earlier line settings, particularly the frontline AML setting and several menin inhibitors moving forward in clinical trials to evaluate their drugs in frontline settings. What do you view as a key differentiator for you as you're working to execute your plans around KOMET-017, which is your frontline trial?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. So I think it's sort of 2 pillars, if you will, Etzer. One is the properties of ziftomenib and the other is the manner in which we're executing on the trials. On the properties of ziftomenib, it goes back to something that Brian was saying. Oftentimes, investors are hearing it's all about efficacy, efficacy, efficacy. That's true. But if we -- with the, I think, the differentiated safety, combinability, convenience, you can drive better activity. You can drive better efficacy, whether that's in the relapsed/refractory setting or the frontline setting. You can see that from our frontline data. I would put it up against any of our competitors. We're going to give a data update on the 7+3 frontline Phase Ib. And I think, again, you're going to see that pull through. That's on the molecule side. On the execution side, a number of years ago, we made a deliberate decision to put the 2 Phase IIIs under a single protocol. And we did that because when we went out and we talked to clinical sites in the U.S. and Europe, they said to us, we said, look, you're going to have multiple sponsors. How can we win your love. And what they said was put both trials in one protocol. It's easier, it's simpler to get up and running. It's on 1 IRB. You're standing up really trial. And most importantly, Etzer, any patient who walks in the door can come on 1 of those 2 trials. So as a result, we are rapidly activating. We're going to have up to 200 sites globally. We're rapidly activating. We've got many of kind of the premier sites in the U.S., Europe and Asia Pac. And I think we're just going to outexecute everybody else. We haven't really totaled it, but we've enrolled at this point, 350 patients in the Phase I studies to date with 30 sites. So now the goal is 1,300 and like the game is on.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsRight. Great. And in the Fit AML patient population, you're evaluating combination with 7+3 in both NMP1 and KMT2 patients. I guess what does the biology tell us about where conviction can lie in either both of those patient populations? And I guess, ultimately, how could that translate into durable responses and outcomes for those KMT1 patients and NMP1 -- KMT2A and NMP1 patients?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. Good question. So the -- the biology that you're addressing in frontline is you are trying to get patients to MRD negativity. Why is that so important? You can have 5% leukemic blast counts and be at a CR. If I have 5% leukemic blast counts, you still have full-blown leukemia, right? But if you're MRD negative, as measured in bone marrow, which is the accelerated endpoint for the 017 FIT study, you don't have leukemia down to the limit of detection. There is a very strong meta-analysis that we and the [ Impact ] consortium use to convince the agency to allow MRD negativity as an accelerated endpoint. And that's the association between MRD negativity and survival. So the biology, as you asked about it, is you use the combination of intensive chemo and zifto to drive the MRD negativity down and then you use zifto in continuation therapy to maintain those patients ideally in an MRD-negative state. You called out the 2 genotypes. Let me just spend a moment on each of them. What we're seeing in FIT much to our surprise is that the NPM1 patients, in general, are not going to transplant. And the reason for that is pretty simple. If you're MRD negative CR as an NPM1 patient, transplant is contraindicated. If you're -- the KMT2A patients are going to transplant because that disease is different, it's more aggressive. It has an 8-month EFS versus a 22-month EFS for NPM1. But you -- what we are seeing is we're driving patients, KMT2A patients to transplant and then putting them back on zifto on the other side.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsAnd when we think about MRD negativity and want to sort of understand the bar for success here. Can you give us a sense of the expectations around MRD negativity in the control arm?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. So that's -- let's be clear. There is the MRD negativity assessment that the site makes that's typically done in plasma or in blood. And there's the MRD negativity assessment that you're doing that's centrally confirmed. And those numbers are different. The site numbers are typically higher. The benchmark for intensive chemotherapy in MRD negativity rates in bone marrow after 2 cycles for NPM1 is about 45%. 45% of patients are MRD negative after 2 cycles. Our goal is to demonstrate a rate of MRD negativity using, again, a high-sensitivity assay in bone marrow that's clinically meaningful above that. That's typically 10% to 15%. When we show you the update middle of this year on the intensive chemotherapy combo, look for that rate of MRD negativity that is assessed in bone marrow. The local assessments will always be higher, but the FDA wants to see the central assessment in both the control arm and the active arm.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And then in the unfit population, maybe also your sense around bar for success when you think about CR and overall survival.
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. So the bar for success in the unfit population, this is the venetoclax/azacitidine combination. And we're there, we're only enrolling NPM1. You're in the range of about 60% CR rate in NPM1 and your OS is about 22 months for the NPM1 population. So that's what you're -- for both of those, either accelerated or full endpoint, those are the benchmarks you're looking to exceed.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And you've highlighted a couple of updates from other zifto studies, KOMET-007, we'll get an update in the first half of 2026, 008 in the second half of 2026. Maybe starting with the 007 update where you presented some data at ASH. Maybe help us to understand what additional data we would get in the first half of this year. And then again, what should investors be focused on as those data sets are rolled out?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. Thanks. There's actually 3 updates. Maybe I can just clarify. So we're going to present a publication that was really a continuation of the data you mentioned at ASH. That's venetoclax/ azacitidine, ziftomenib in the relapsed/refractory NPM1 setting. The significance there, particularly when you put zifto on top of ven/aza, your ORR goes to almost 80%. So to Brian's point, that's not going to be within the label, but we heard very clearly from clinicians get this data out, like we want to be educated. The physicians want to use these drugs in combination. So you'll see that probably around midyear. We don't control publication timing. That's -- that will be a peer-reviewed publication. There will be a frontline update. What I would look for there is the sort of the median patients had been on the Phase Ib frontline study last year for about 5 or 6 months. This is now a year later. So that means your median patient will have been on almost 18 months. The significance of that is if you -- thinking about the frontline opportunity, if you can -- you have 10,000 patients, if you can keep them on therapy for 18 months, that is a $10 billion market. So investors should be paying attention to that. You're still going to want to see a positive Phase III, but these Phase Ibs are so large and robust, they'll go a long way to derisking it. The last data set is the one you mentioned that is the ziftomenib gilteritinib combo in relapsed/refractory NPM1 FLT3 co-mutated patients. I'll just remind folks, that's half of your NPM1 population in every line of therapy. We have already said we were successfully able to dose escalate and get into an expansion with no DLTs, you're going to see that data back to the point that Brian was making, right now, there's -- what we hear is physicians will sequence FLT3 NPM1 co-mutated patients through gilt and then give them a menin inhibitor because gilt has a survival advantage. It went through a randomized trial. If you can give them data that says, don't do that, actually give the 2 together, you'll drive a better outcome, we think that will be very informative. Look for that data around the end of the year.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsAnd what sort of data will kind of help us inform us, if you will, on sort of whether or not these patients are seeing a better outcome of the combination?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesSo the CR rate for gilt in that setting is less than 20%. The CR rate for zifto is 21%. The CR rate for our competitor is, I think, 23% you want to see a CR rate that is meaningfully better than those numbers and good durability. If you see that, I think you're in good shape. I'll also remind you, Etzer, that we're also evaluating quizartinib plus zifto in the frontline setting. That study is still in dose escalation. But to date, we've had no trouble at all combining with either of the 2 marketed FLT3 inhibitors.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And then TOMET-015 study ongoing in GIST. Maybe if you can just comment on that study and perhaps where you are in dose escalation?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. So what you're referring to is the study to assess imatinib plus ziftomenib in recurrent metastatic GIST. These are patients who have failed imatinib. The significance here is menin controls the transcription of KIT. So by combining a menin inhibitor and a KIT inhibitor, you're attacking KIT from 2 different directions. You're blocking the catalytic activity and you're blocking the transcriptional activity. What we've seen preclinically is we can resensitize KIT failures to almost any KIT inhibitor. If we're successful, this is the first novel MOA in GIST since the advent of KIT inhibitors, right? Believe that's like 25 years ago. So that's a big deal. I think we all appreciate from Cogent, from GSK, how big that GIST market could be. We're currently in dose escalation. I think we're encouraged by what we're seeing. We're at doses now that are higher than the AML doses, and it's going well. I think, Etzer, you're probably looking at a data update next year. We want to have enough data that we can come forward and really have a conversation about where we go from here.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsMaybe we can spend the last few minutes on darlafarnib. A couple of programs there, KRAS G12C mutant solid tumors, RCC. Maybe just first on the KRAS mutant program, what -- how much data, again, could we see across the different KRAS mutant types? And we can have some follow-up questions on that.
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. So we are in that study, combining adagrasib, the KRAS G12C mutant selective inhibitor and darlafarnib. We're evaluating it in patients with non-small cell lung, colorectal and pancreatic cancer. Many of those patients have actually already seen a KRAS inhibitor. You're going to see Etzer, between the -- well, actually, this is just the escalation. You'll see 30 to 40 patients. It's a meaningful data set.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsAnd when you think about sort of the KRAS space, there's always been a lot of focus around PDAC. But is there a particular histology that you think could be more meaningful than others? Or just maybe where sort of the benchmarks line and be able to sort of come ahead of those benchmarks?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesYes. Our goal is -- maybe just to frame the problem, and it's a common problem in both RCC and KRAS. Resistance is the problem, right? So even with all of the successes that we've seen, it's not like we're curing patients, right? Half of them respond off those half most of them eventually relapse. What you're doing with darlafarnib is you're blocking a major resistance mechanism. To your question, what we'd like to show with this data is we're bringing forward a novel mechanism of action that is broadly combinable and whether you have a mutant selective, a pan-selective, you're going to want to combine with darli. What are people doing right now? They're combining with cetuximab, right? They're going back 20, 30 years because they're trying to overcome resistance. So that's really going to be the focus. You'll see us articulate a development plan. Is it pancreatic? Is it colorectal, doublets or triplets. Look for us to do that a little later. At this point, I think we want to get everybody saying, yes, that's obviously an MOA. I would want to combine with these KRAS inhibitors.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsAnd I think to your point around sort of KRAS cancers and then the inevitable escape mechanisms that develop, right, to be able to keep patients on longer, durability matters. So I guess, is there another data set later on that could be more telling in terms of whether or not you're seeing the durability associated with being able to stop that resistance mechanism? Or could we get that type of update at this first?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesI mean the hope is -- so whether we're talking about RCC or KRAS, what you're looking for is if a patient had adagrasib and progressed, a physician wouldn't normally think to put the patient back on adagrasib, right? Same thing with cabozantinib. So if we can show you examples of patients where we've been able to put the patient back into response, the only thing we've done is to add darlafarnib that's pretty interesting in terms of overcoming the resistance mechanism. Part of the reason we're just now much more mature and disciplined. Part of the reason we've waited to show this data is you want to give your responses time to confirm. You want to have enough durability data that you can say something meaningful. It's still a Phase Ia, but we're also using that data in confidential conversations with a number of the players in the KRAS and RCC space because everybody has the same problem, right? And just to go to RCC for a second, there's a view that we're going to see a triplet of HIF-2 alpha TKI-IO go to frontline. If a patient fails that, you've just exhausted the 3 mechanisms in RCC. What do you do, right? And we're hearing a lot of enthusiasm if we can introduce a new mechanism of action that resensitizes patients to one or more of those MOAs, that's a big deal. The second-line opportunity is going to look different and is going to continue to be quite significant in RCC. So lots of exciting data to come in the darli program.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsGreat. And with combinations, particularly with KRAS, I think the question around safety always comes up just given sort of the KRAS historically being a problematic molecule to combine with. Maybe your thinking around like what sorts of safety signals should we be looking out for? What's problematic? What is reasonable to assume from a manageable safety perspective?
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesSo I can say this, right? And folks who have followed this story for a while have heard me say this. I always talk about safety and tolerability because if you can't combine, you can't drive efficacy. The fact, Etzer, that we can combine at a full dose with cabo, alpelisib and adagrasib, full dose of each of them, full dose of darli kind of tells you everything you need to know. Do we -- the only AEs we see are on mechanism myelosuppression, which you're not going to address in a dose escalation because you want to see the tox, but you just give supportive care, you give G-CSF, for example, for the neutropenia, and you can address that quite meaningfully. The beautiful thing about FTIs is this is why I keep pushing this mechanism. We have 5,000 patients worth of data, right? The safety profile is as good as it gets. It's better than cetuximab, for example, no disrespect, right? The -- I think people will be very pleasantly surprised. We hear from the clinicians in the RCC study. The remark at how well tolerated the cabo/darli combo is relative to other things they've seen. And I think that's going to allow us to drive interesting activity.
Etzer Darout
AnalystsRight. So we're up on our time. Troy, Brian, thank you so much for your participation, and thank you to our listeners, and then we'll be back shortly with our next session.
Troy Wilson
ExecutivesThanks Etzer.
Brian Powl
ExecutivesThank you.
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