Lagardere SA (MMB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 13, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveLadies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today to the Lagardère Q3 '23 Revenue. I'm Emmanuel Rapin, Head of Financial Communication, and I will be guiding you through this presentation. The conference is led today by Arnaud Lagardère, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Lagardère SA; Sophie Stabile, the Group CFO; Dag Rasmussen, the Chairman and CEO of Lagardère Travel Retail; and Nathalie Houël, the Group CFO of Hachette Livre. [Operator Instructions] I will be reading questions from financial analysts only. Now I will leave the floor to Arnaud Lagardère.
Arnaud Lagardère
executiveThank you, Emmanuel, and good afternoon to all of you. Before leaving the floor to Sophie, let me just say very briefly that, as you could see on the press release, we still have a very good positive momentum, especially for Travel Retail, but also Publishing showed strong resilience in a little bit more difficult environment. But as you know, Q4 is where we make most of the year result-wise, I mean, so we'll see what happens. But we're still very confident about this year. You're not aware, obviously, of the budgets, but we will beat our internal budget this year, which is a great satisfaction for us. Sophie, I'll leave the floor to you, and we'll get back for the Q&A.
Sophie Stabile
executiveGood evening, everyone. Thank you, Arnaud. Thank you for joining us. I will take you through the highlights of the company's performance. Lagardère Group fueled a remarkable growth trajectory in 2023. The third quarter revenue grew by 9.6% like-for-like. And over the first 9 months, revenue is up 15.3%. This growth was driven by our two main businesses. First, Lagardère Publishing maintained a robust level of activity despite less dynamic markets. Second, Lagardère Travel Retail achieved a historic quarterly revenue on the back of an exceptional summer tourist season. Let's see how this performance splits. Group revenue grew to EUR 2.2 billion in Q3 '23, which represents a plus EUR 193 million increment on a like-for-like basis. As you can see on the slide, it was driven by Lagardère Travel Retail's record-breaking revenue over the quarter. The difference between the like-for-like and reported growth for the group is due to a negative EUR 44 million currency effect and a positive EUR 83 million scope effect, which includes the acquisition of Marché International by Lagardère Travel Retail in Germany. Now let's focus on our divisions' performances. Lagardère Publishing maintained a strong level of activity, slightly down by 1.6% on a like-for-like basis following a very strong Q3 2022. If we look at the activity by segment, the business was driven by continuing demand in Illustrated Books, especially Young Adult publication, with the ongoing success of the Captive series by Sarah Rivens and the success of À contre sens by Mercedes Ron, which benefited from the Amazon Prime movie adaptation. General Literature was lifted by bestsellers, such as Le temps des combats by Nicolas Sarkozy and L’'Enragé by Sorj Chalandon in France, and also fueled by the popularity of titles on social networks such as Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros in the U.K. The good momentum in Travel Guides continued, supported by the upturn in tourist recovery. The Partworks activity is slower, owing to a less dynamic campaign at the beginning of the year than in '22. Looking into geographies. In France, the activity was down by 5% like-for-like, mainly due to the [ advance ] of Guillaume Musso hardback and paperback publication compared to previous year. Apart from this effect and despite a tougher market condition, Illustrated Books and General Literature performed well. In the U.K., the activity was strong at 5.6% like-for-like in a slightly growing market, driven by the Young Adult segment and a strong backlist. In a slower market, the U.S. was down by 5.2% like-for-like due to a softer release calendar and the lack of top-selling reference like Verity by Colleen Hoover last year. Finally, Spain benefited from the peak of the cycle of the school reform for primary education while Mexico is lifted by its trade activity. Moving on to Lagardère Travel Retail. Q3 was a historic quarter for Lagardère Travel Retail at almost EUR 1.4 billion of revenue. This represents a 17.7% increase on a like-for-like basis versus 2022. I would like to highlight the hard work of the team. The commercial initiatives and operational efforts to meet our customer expectations were outstanding over the quarter. In this context, all our geographies performed very well. This is due to a dynamic intra-European market on the back of an exceptional summer performance. The activity in France up 10.8% was boosted by the performance in regional airports such as Marseille and Nice, thanks to a touristic season that has stretched into September. The EMEA region benefited from the European and international traffic, especially from American tourists, with a strong performance in Italy, up 30.6%, and Poland, 18.4%. In North America, the activity profits from the return of Asian passenger, especially in Canada, with up 27.5%. Finally, in Asia-Pacific, the activity is back, up 45.7%, following the reopening of China and with a favorable comparison basis versus 2022. Let's dig into the division's different activities. Globally speaking, this quarter confirms the strong dynamic of the year. The activity is driven by a strong performance in Duty Free and Foodservice within the EMEA region. Overall, the Foodservice segment now represents 27% of the Q3 '23 activity versus 23% last year, thanks to our M&A integration in Germany and Dubai. The Foodservice and Travel Essentials also gained from the leisure traffic in the U.S. Let's move on to Other Activities. The total revenue for the quarter is EUR 56 million, down 6.6% like-for-like. A few points to be highlighted. News is down by 7% due to a softer advertising market and the impact from the non-publication of the JDD for 6 weeks. Lagardère Live Entertainment is down 9% versus Q3 2022 following an exceptional programming in the summer 2022. Overall, Lagardère Group is on a strong revenue growth trajectory. We continue to focus our efforts to secure our leadership position in our various businesses, including our M&A integration capability. In an uncertain environment, we remain confident in our ability to maintain a high level of results. Despite pressure on cost, Lagardère Publishing should maintain relatively similar performances to last year. Lagardère Travel Retail, in a normalized environment as global traffic continues to recover, has potential for revenue and profitability growth, meeting LEAP initiatives. Many thanks for your attention. We are now available to answer your questions.
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveThe first question comes from Julien Roch. And the questions come about what is the trend for Q4 for both Travel Retail and Publishing? Dag will start with the trends.
Dag Rasmussen
executiveSo the trends are, as you have seen, fairly good. We are, for the month of July, we were at plus 16% versus '19, plus 10% in August and plus 14% in September, which gives the average of 13.2% for the quarter. We would imagine this trend continues throughout the year, give or take. We don't have any indication that this would change. I'm challenging the teams every day to see whether there is any change in trend. We don't see it. So, so far, so good.
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveI will take then the question from Adrien de Saint Hilaire of Bank of America. I think it comes a little bit the same way as usual, Julien Roch, and just to complete the picture is there is a slowdown between Q3 and Q2. And what about the Q4 maybe? So if you can continue, Dag, on that before we -- yes, the Q4 trend, why there is a slowing down, in fact?
Dag Rasmussen
executiveSo actually, there's no slowdown. And you have to have in mind that these figures are compared to '22. Q1 '22, you had Omicron, which was really strong. You had China completely closed down. So the real, to understand the dynamics of Travel Retail, it's better to compare to 2019, which is what I did with Julien's question. So we don't see any slowdown of the trend for the time being.
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveThank you. So maybe it's Nathalie then that is going to address the question about the trends for book publishing.
Nathalie Houël
executiveYes, thank you. For Q4, Q4 in France should be slightly better than Q3. As you know, we will have an Asterix album, l'iris blanc, which will be released in end of October. We will also have some strong releases such as the memoirs of Britney Spears published by Lattes in France. Lastly, Young Adult segment should remain at a high level. In the U.K., we should have a nice Q4, too. Hachette UK still benefits from the huge success of backlist titles that are popular on social networks. And they will also benefit from a new release in the series Heartstopper, Heartstopper 5, in December. And in the U.S., it's still difficult, of course, in a sluggish market.
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveAfter jumping into market, there is one specific question of Julien Roch on more the governance. So the question is the following: post the put that will take place in December, Vivendi should have between 70% and 80% of the company. How will the Board evolve then? How many people can Vivendi nominate on the Board at the next AGM? We have Pauline Hauwel, who will respond.
Pauline Hauwel
executiveWell, you need to keep in mind, the put is only an option. So Vivendi, indeed, could reach up to 80% of the share capital, but it's just an option. And regarding how the Board would evolve, I would just refer to the public statement made to Vivendi as part of the public offer. They say they might seek representation at the level of their share in the capital, but still as a company, will remain listed, there might still need to be an independent director sitting on the Board.
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveI think there was some question about Christophe Cherblanc about the dynamic of book publishing on the Q4. And I think it was addressed already by Nathalie, especially the fact that we have several great release on the Q4. There was a question about what is the estimated debt at the end of December '23 in terms of lending and especially after the potential -- the acquisition of Tastes on the Fly?
Sophie Stabile
executiveSo the level of the debt at the end of December should be roughly at the same level at the end of June, including Tastes on the Fly.
Emmanuel Rapin
executiveOkay. If I read well, I think we have covered all the questions. We can wait a few seconds to see if something pop up on my screen. But right now, I think we have covered the trends, covered the activities, the end of the year financing. So I think, Arnaud, we have a couple of...
Arnaud Lagardère
executiveYes, Emmanuel, I think I can conclude. I mean, the conclusion will be straight and quite easy. I think, well, in this crazy world, you never know what could happen. But as Dag said, so far, so good, whether it's for Travel Retail or Publishing or Lagardère News. So we are heading to another record level in terms of a head-up for the company, higher than last year. And probably if we compare the activities, the perimeter, definitely a record year. And we worked on -- we are working on a strategic plan that we will present to the Board next week. We will present also to the Board a financial budget for the next 5 years. More detail for next year and the forecast looked great, really great. And we are very optimistic about the future. Maybe to complete also the question of Julien Roch and the answer that correctly Pauline gave, there will be no change in the top management and the integrity of the company, meaning the three divisions, Travel Retail, Publishing and News, will stay as they are. We have some money definitely to make acquisitions, significant acquisitions. But if we need to make a more, even bigger one, we'll be very happy to have the support of Vivendi. But we don't have any in mind as of today. And again, without any acquisition, we can deliver substantial growth for the next 5 years, which is a luxury that we know we have, and we don't want to spoil it. Thank you so much for the whole company, first of all, for those numbers. Thank you for you, dear analysts. And we'll talk to you very soon. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.
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