LAMDA Development S.A. (LAMDA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 22, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorThank you for standing by, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the LAMDA Development conference call of the half year 2020 financial results. We have with us Mr. Vassilios Baloumis, Finance Director; Ms. Konstantina Karatopouzi, Chief Operating Officer; and Mr. Alexandros Kokkidis, Treasurer and Investor Relations Director of the company. [Operator Instructions] I must advise you this conference is being recorded today, Tuesday, the 22nd of September 2020. And I will now pass the floor to one of your speakers today, Mr. Baloumis. Please go ahead, sir.
Vassilios Baloumis
executiveThank you very much. Good evening to everybody. We are announcing today the financial results of the first half of 2020. Thoughtfully, as we all realized, I may confess that this particular time might be one of the most unusual and the remarkable period that our company has ever gone through. Since an unexpected event has come to affect the performance of a year, which has definitely started under the best conditions, not only for the Greek economy, but also for our company itself. Certainly, at every opportunity given to us, we had announced the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic and that is exactly what we did in the announcement of financial results of 2019 in April in the prospectus of the bond loan related in early July and the announcement of the first quarter results by the end of July. Consequently, I consider that the financial results we are announcing today were indeed expected, both for the management and the shareholders. At this point, let me also remind you that following government decision and comprehensive measures to protect the business and labor from coronavirus effects, rents have been reduced by 40% from the third up to the sixth month of the year for the totality of retail stores in shopping malls. And in addition to that, for all activities related to F&B services and cinemas still apply the discount within July and August. While this -- there is a rumor, the latter measurements will be expanded up to September at most probably over the following months. Also take into consideration that according to our company's decision, our retailers have been offered an extra discount of 30% during the fourth and the fifth month. It is therefore obvious that the financial implication of all abovementioned measurements have been fully capsuled within our first investor results and particularly reflected to the EBITDA outcome of the retail segment. Overall impact is approximately equal to EUR 12.5 million, but upon extracting both the minority rights of 32% in Mediterranean Cosmos and Golden Hall and the taxation impact, latter impact amounts does not exceed the amount of EUR 7.9 million or EUR 0.04 per share. With regards to the abovementioned measure related to the reduction of rentals, both in the F&B and cinemas, 40% for July and August, the monthly estimated impact is about to reach up to EUR 250,000. Whereas after the equivalent extraction of minority rights and tax impact, the net impact amounts to EUR 180,000. These figures -- I mean this amount per month refer to the second semester of this year. Lastly, regarding customers' visits and shopkeeper sales performance, about the decreased rates following the lockdown period, these have been also affected by the same negative reasons such as imposed restriction and safety distances applied to food stores and cinemas. By the overall security filling in the closed spaces, but also by specific factors such as tourism reduction relevant to Med. Cosmos in Thessaloniki, and the significant reduction in the use of transport means relevant to mall -- to The Mall Athens. So retail EBITDA dropped by 39% to EUR 19.5 million. Total EBITDA before valuation, Hellinikon expenses and Flisvos Marina acquisition impact decreased by 43.3% to EUR 15.3 million. Total EBITDA reached EUR 9.7 million, and net losses of the period stood at EUR 5.7 million, and NAV per share dropped by EUR 0.03 -- approximately EUR 0.03. NAV at EUR 1.150 billion and NAV per share at EUR 6.51. Tenant sales recorded a fall by 43.2%, and customer visits decreased by 47%, both driven by malls' closure and the lockdown restrictions. The average occupancy approached 98%, less than 100% drop compared to the year-end. Collection rate stood at 90%. Finally, the major developments, the successful completion of the bond issue rate at 3.4%, callable on year 2 thereafter. Next, The Mall Athens debt refinancing with National Bank of Greece, and the first phase of demolitions at Hellinikon completed earlier than expected in September. And Flisvos Marina acquisition, the share increased from 32% to 64%, contributing a step-up gain of EUR 8.5 million. Slide #3 presents results for sales and visits for the last 6 years. In H1 2020, there was effect to retail KPIs due to malls' closure for almost 2 months and the economic downturn during COVID-19 pandemic. Shopkeeper sales down by 43.2% and customer visits by 47%. Next slide, #4, present the EBITDA for the retail sector. The fall of the retail EBITDA reached 39%. Here, we can see the drop by EUR 12.5 million, as I have said, excluding the minority interest of Värde and the effect of the corporate income tax of 24%. The bottom-line effect is less than EUR 8 million. Next slide, #5, it presents the KPI and the EBITDA breakdown of The Mall Athens. So shopkeeper sales decreased by 47%, number of visitors decreased by 52%, occupancy 97%, and total revenue is down by 35.8%, and EBITDA decreased by 41%. Next slide, #6, Mediterranean Cosmos. Shopkeeper sales decreased by 42.7%, visitors decreased by 44.6%, and occupancy 99.5%, total revenue down by 34.5%, and EBITDA decreased by 40%. Next slide, #7, Golden Hall. Shopkeeper sales decreased by 37.2%, visitors decreased by 36.3%, and occupancy at 99%, and total revenue decreased by 27.6%, and EBITDA decreased by 35%. Next slide, #8. Total EBITDA before valuations, Hellinikon expenses and Flisvos Marina acquisition impact dropped by 43.3% to EUR 15.3 million versus EUR 37 million last year. Next slide, #9, presents the income statement. The bottom line of EUR 5.7 million loss versus EUR 37.2 million last year. Next slide, #10, is the net asset value evolution, starting from the amount of EUR 1.155 billion. The addition of EUR 8.8 million valuation loss, plus the step-up gain from Marina acquisition, minus Hellinikon expenses, EUR 2.7 million, minus the losses of the period and last EUR 2.3 million other items, reaching to EUR 1.150 billion. Next slide, #11, analyzes the retail investment portfolio. The retail portfolio decreased by EUR 8.4 million. The average EBITDA yield is now 6.9% versus 6.8% in December '19. Slide #12 or the land plots portfolio is now EUR 87.1 million. Next slide, #13, is the total investment portfolio by sector and by country. 81% focused in the retail sector and 94% in Greece. Slide #14 presents the cost of the EBITDA for all the 3 centers in total for the period between 2006 and 2019. I would like to mention that the total EBITDA started in 2006 at an amount of EUR 30 million. And an -- at 2019, it reached the level of EUR 64.3 million, which is a record EBITDA for the group as it happens of the last 6 years, but due to the COVID-19 pandemic has ceased this trend. Next slide, #15 and #16. We can skip the slides, as I think you are very familiar with them since they are repeated each quarter. Next slide, #17, is the balance sheet summary. No -- there are no significant changes in the balance sheet. The right-of-use assets of EUR 178.5 million versus EUR 78.8 million list year represents the addition of Marina Flisvos due to the new consolidation method. Accordingly, the increase of lease liability from EUR 78.7 million to EUR 177.7 million. Next slide, #18, presents the indicators. I would like to point out the drop -- the average interest rate is now 3.2% versus 4.2% last year. Next slide, #19, the share performance from 2016 until now. And the last slide, #20, which is the shareholder composition. So we are ready to hear your questions. Thank you very much.
Operator
operatorThank you. So you're ready for questions?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveYes.
Vassilios Baloumis
executiveYes. Yes, we are.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Jakub Caithaml from Wood Co.
Jakub Caithaml
analystIt's Jakub from Wood. A couple of questions from my side. Would you kindly repeat or kind of elaborate a little bit more on kind of the government rules and also the rent reductions from your side that have been taking place kind of since the lockdown began and into summer, kind of where do we stand now for the different types of tenants and how did we get here. I didn't quite catch this part at the beginning of the presentation.
Vassilios Baloumis
executiveJakub, I don't know if we clearly understood your question. What happened is that in March and April and May, the government directive -- regulation was to provide -- in June -- sorry, in June to provide discounts at 40%. That was the obligation. So in -- LAMDA Development decided for the month of April and May to provide 70% discounts, an additional 30%, 40% plus 30%, that was a decision by LAMDA Development. Then it was -- for the month of July and August, it was announced that -- it was announced there was a new decree that came out from the government, certifying that food, beverage and entertainment should enjoy discounts of at least 40%. Okay. So -- and LAMDA Development followed this directive. This regulation rather. I don't know if we answered your question.
Jakub Caithaml
analystYes. This is very helpful. And could you perhaps elaborate on how are any subsequent discounts -- in case you are going to be granted and you are granting any sort of subsequent discounts beyond what has been mandated by the government to the tenants as we kind of gradually emerge from the lockdown?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveWell of course, we will follow any new regulation that will be issued, which we are not in a position now. We don't know anything new as yet. It could be -- as Mr. Baloumis mentioned earlier on, it is quite likely, but there's nothing out officially yet. The discounts on food and beverage and entertainment shall continue, but this is not certain. What we are doing as a company is like the same thing we did back during the economic crisis. We are helping those tenants that are significant, and we've been working with them for many years and we have an excellent collaboration of who needs some assistance, and we provide common expenses assistance. You remember, we did this in the past, and we shall continue to do that at this time. And of course, this is an -- on an ad hoc basis. It is not horizontal or something like that. So we are following up with each separate tenant to assist and -- regarding common expenses. We're not changing the contracts, right? The rent contracts remain as they are. So it's up to us to provide this support to specific tenants that within these -- for the benefit of all the shopping centers.
Jakub Caithaml
analystUnderstood. And would you be -- would it be possible to share with -- what percentage of the tenants have you reached any sort of -- this agreement on any sort of interim adjustments to the contract that would help them in a short run? And related to this, could you also comment on kind of the like-for-like turnover dynamics during the summer months, if in case you have the data already for July and August?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveNo. We don't have the official data yet for July and August. I'm sorry for that. But now I didn't really clearly understood the first part of your question. Whether we reach the -- if you can repeat?
Jakub Caithaml
analystRight. So I was wondering if you can share what roughly share of the tenants have you reached any sort of agreement that would mean that for perhaps the time being, they are not required to pay the full rent, but maybe there could be some short-term discounts. I mean is it like 20% of the tenants? Is it 90% of the tenants that you have reached some short-term additions to the overall rental contract?
Konstantina Karatopouzi
executiveIf you're referring about what happened in the past month, it's clearly for everybody. So there's no particular exception or addition. If you're talking about the months to follow, there is no agreement per se because as Mr. Baloumis mentioned, we don't change the contract. There is no specific agreement. They're ad hoc, per case [ as they adjust and ] as we go and as the turnover is changed.
Jakub Caithaml
analystI see. So -- I see. Understood. So as long as the tenant is doing fine, they are required to pay the full rent. And if they are struggling but you see the business case is viable, you would reach some agreement about short-term reduction in the rent?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveIt's not exactly correct to say that -- we're not reducing rents. What we are doing, we are paying part of the common expenses that they are obliged to pay, the tenants, that's part of the agreement. So that's what we offer, our support. So indirectly, you may be right, it is an indirect discount on the rent, but it's not actually -- it is not literally the same thing. That's why we have the -- legally this capability and freedom to decide how much support to provide to the tenant.
Jakub Caithaml
analystSure. Understood. Then on a different topic, could you share kind of the feedback from the appraisers regarding the revaluation result, kind of what were the inputs, what was driving this approximately 1% decline in devaluations? And if -- I mean, obviously, I don't think that there is much of a transaction evidence at this stage in Greece in shopping centers. But would you expect that there could be, I mean, further evolution movements? Or would you really see these valuations as robust based on the feedback that you have from the realtors that you speak with?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveThe line keeps cutting out. So...
Operator
operatorYou are back in the conference. [Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of [ Michelle Femara ] from Halcyon. Okay. We'll go to the next question. Jakub, please ask your question.
Jakub Caithaml
analystMe again. Sorry, I wanted to ask about the revaluation results. So firstly, if you could help us understand better what was driving this approximately 1% revaluation was? And also, how do you see this going forward in case you have some feedback from the appraisers that you work with?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveWell as we mentioned, they were -- we provided official discounts. There was a discount for the months of March, April, May and June. And there's a discount on food and beverage for July and August, and that's been taken into account. And that reduces the value. So it is factual reduction in value. Specific -- or specifically defined based on natural facts.
Jakub Caithaml
analystRight. But no adjustments to kind of the long-term capitalization rates or yields or to the long-term sustainable rent levels?
Konstantina Karatopouzi
executiveNo. Probably, you didn't hear the -- because Mr. Vassilios mentioned this earlier. The values do not take a long-term view that this is a permanent or a long-term effect from the pandemic. The view is this is short term. So clearly, we cannot define exactly how short it's going to be, but it's definitely something short. That's the view they're taking. And clearly, they're following the advice of the experts as far as the pandemic is concerned. So when they do their forward-looking -- their forecast on the cash flows, this is what they take into account. So they're only looking at a very small and sort of short, let's say, losses from their rent, and which is what they've already taken into account. Now as the pandemic continues or that any improvement or deterioration of the situation, possibly that might be reflected in the future valuations, but at the moment, this is what they're looking at. They're still following the same method that they did before.
Jakub Caithaml
analystSure. That's quite clear. And last question for me. Could you please -- sorry, go ahead.
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveI just need to stress that it was mentioned that occupancy is around 98%. So we don't have any changes in occupancy. So there's no reason to assume anything else in evaluations. So things continue for the value. As it is a temporary phenomenon, the occupancy remains extremely strong. There still is demand for space. We still have new tenants entering the shopping malls. So the situation is satisfactory, despite, of course, the reduction in consumption overall in the economy and everything, there's no doubt about it and the psychological effects of the pandemic. But otherwise, in terms of the shopkeepers because what -- our revenue is from the shopkeepers, not the consumers. Okay. And they remain stable. And the new entrants, the new tenants, they pay the same rents, if not somewhat higher rents than the older tenants. Those tenants have left and the place is taken by the new tenants. There's no reduction in rents. And therefore, there's no evidence for -- to reduce rents for the valuers. The valuers need facts to base their judgments on and then compare these with the market.
Jakub Caithaml
analystNo, absolutely. Thank you very much for the flow of the information on the rent level, it's very helpful. And obviously then, this makes sense. If I can, one last question on the Hellinikon Project. Could you update us on kind of where we stand? And what milestones can we expect between kind of today and the end of 2021?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveWell I'm sure you heard that last Friday, the State Council reached a decision in favor of Mohegan and therefore, the tender continues. So the -- and the economic offer of Mohegan will be opened now by the gaming committee. So it will happen in the next days, and that will be assessed by the gaming committee. We do not expect any surprises as soon as everything would be normal, then the gaming committee shall approve the economic offer of Mohegan. And this will then be -- will need to be ratified by the Court of Audit, which takes a minimum of a month to do so. And then the gaming committee will issue the casino license, right? So these are the steps. Now how long will that take? We guess it will take about -- towards -- probably towards the end of the year. So this is on this front. So everything is moving very satisfactory on this front, on this -- on the casino front. Now in terms of State Council hearings and decisions following petitions of annulment that have taken place on about 4 separate positions, there has been a delay in the process because of COVID, but we expect 1 decision to be issued within next week. There will be 3 hearings in October, and we expect the decision to be taken by the State Council by the end of the year -- if not by the end of the year. Again, the COVID effect is -- creates a lot of uncertainty because it affects already in how the judges behave and how much -- how easy it is for them to convene and take discussions, take decisions and all that, and it affects all of us. And so it could be January next year. So there's -- and we cannot exactly predict, but everything is moving normally. So I don't know if we answered your question. I think for us, the important thing is that we're not wasting any time, irrespective of how efficient the judicial system is and how quickly they issue their decisions. We are doing what we have to do for Hellinikon. We -- demolitions have started. Not only have started, have even completed the first phase and they continue permitting studies and commercial studies. We have been working very intensively on those studies since the beginning of the year, and they are progressing very satisfactorily. So we're doing all the work that we would be doing anyway if we were the owners of the land, owners of Hellinikon S.A. We'd be doing exactly the same thing, so we're not losing any time effectively.
Jakub Caithaml
analystSure. Understood. And I mean on staffing, are you already, I mean, expanding the headcount of the company to be kind of able to tackle the project of this size? I mean how is that looking at the moment?
Konstantina Karatopouzi
executiveYes. We're definitely expanding. During the last year, there's been over 50 hirings at all levels, senior level and middle management, let's say, especially for the, let's say, specializations that are required for the project. So definitely, the team has been strengthened. And there are also changes in the organizations taking place in order to address the project.
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveWe have hired a lot of very experienced people from basically all over the world. A lot of Greeks who were working abroad, took this opportunity to return to Greece and enjoying this very important project. So we are very, let's say, privileged that we have a lot of very qualified people working for LAMDA Development and for the Hellinikon Project. Also, as you can imagine, there are a lot of engineers who are available for the project to work with us. We used to have a very -- a lot of big construction companies that were operating in Greece and doing a lot of construction work and there's plenty of talent and experienced people available. So we're on this front because human capital is the most important thing. We do not encounter any problems, any issues on that front.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Kaveh Sheibani from Lexcor Capital.
Nicolas Gourdain;Lexcor Capital;Founding Partner
analystThis is Nicolas actually from Lexcor. So I guess we -- so we saw some news today that Astir Palace, the development, has sold 3 villas for, I think, EUR 110 million or something like that, which I guess is a good -- those are bigger villas than yours, but from a euro per square meter, I guess, and the read-across is quite good. I'm just wondering, do we -- should we see this as a sort of good head signal in terms of sort of...
Konstantina Karatopouzi
executiveNicolas, sorry to interrupt. If you could kindly speak a little bit louder because we can't hear you very well.
Nicolas Gourdain;Lexcor Capital;Founding Partner
analystYes, sorry. I'm saying, we saw 3 villas at Astir Palace being sold for EUR 110 million today. Is that a good read-across in terms of the strength of the high-end residential market in Athens? And I guess can you already start to market those villas and maybe sort of progress with some of the presales in the period whilst you wait for the deal to close? Any thoughts there?
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveWell as you know, these Astir Palace villas are very large in terms of size. And the consideration paid explains that. But it's very good news overall. It's very good news for us. Although we don't intend to build such sizable villas, this is not part of the market plan, but we're definitely building villas. But what this sets is, let's say, a precedent on a square meter valuation that will help us. And also -- it has also set a -- it's good news for us, too, because this -- as you did read what happened that a lot of people will read about in the news, and that will keep their interest in the Greek market. And as soon as we come out to the market to resell the villas, which we are already discussing by the way, but we just don't have the permits -- the building permits in place, so we'll be able to sign contracts, et cetera. But this increases awareness. This is a very important thing, as you know, that awareness helps very significantly the Hellinikon Project. And the sale of the Astir Palace villas is definitely positively helping us in the Hellinikon Project. It increases awareness and then sets a precedent. So we're happy this is happening. And actually, we're more optimistic in our case because our villas are not as [Technical Difficulty] Sorry. So Nicolas, I don't know if you heard me, what I was saying or not when we were cut off.
Nicolas Gourdain;Lexcor Capital;Founding Partner
analystYes. No, it's very clear. I mean a great read-across in terms of euro per square meter, especially given the number of square meters you guys have basically, I guess. So it's good to -- thanks for the answer.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] There don't appear to be any -- currently any further questions. [Operator Instructions]
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveSo it seems there are no questions?
Operator
operatorNo questions.
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveOkay. Well thank you very much for your participation. And we are at your disposal. If you want to, contact us for anything you may want to inquire. Okay? Thank you very much.
Konstantina Karatopouzi
executiveThank you. Good afternoon.
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveBye-bye.
Operator
operatorThat does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now all disconnect.
Alexandros Kokkidis
executiveThank you.
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