Lincoln Electric Holdings, Inc. (LECO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 16, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Adam Seiden
analystGreat. Thank you, everyone. Hello, my name is Adam Seiden. I am the U.S. machinery and construction analyst here at Barclays. And welcome, everyone, to the first presentation of the Industrial Select Conference. I believe it's 38 iteration here. For our first presentation on this track, we're pleased to have with us Gabe Bruno from Lincoln Electric as well as Amanda Butler, the IR from Lincoln Electric. So just some administrative things since we're starting off here for the day. We will be doing our audience response questions this year, like in prior iterations of this conference. Since we are joining everybody here today virtually, you will see there will be -- those questions will be on the side of your screen. So we would appreciate if you can take a second sometime throughout this presentation to fill out those questions. We think information is certainly pretty informative for everybody on the back end of that. So with that, we'll -- actually, before we jump into the presentation here in the fireside chat, I do want to remind folks that I have -- if you are interested in submitting questions for Gabe, you shoot me an email at adam.seiden@barclays.com, and we'll be sure fit those towards the end of this presentation today. So with that, we'll shift over to Gabe from Lincoln. And Gabe, if you'd mind just starting off for the folks that are new on the line, giving folks a quick introduction on who Lincoln Electric is. And thanks very much for joining us today.
Gabriel Bruno
executiveSure. So thank you all for joining us this morning here at Barclays Conference. Lincoln Electric, we're the world leader in Arc welding. In 2020, we celebrated 125 years in business. And so just reflecting in that before this conference in what we've experienced in the last just about 12 months. If you think about the pandemic. This will be the second pandemic that we have navigated through. So we've global operations. And we're all over the world. Wherever you expect to join metals, you can expect to see Lincoln Electric. And so we have a very mature strategy, very much focused in executing in our strategy, and we're pleased to be here and to share how we're progressing our business in this kind of environment.
Adam Seiden
analystGreat. Thanks very much, Gabe.
Adam Seiden
analystSo it was about a year ago, you officially got the nod to the CFO role and then COVID spread globally. So probably not the first year in the seat that you had expected. We're asking all of our companies today, and you led off with it a little bit in your opening comment there, but how has COVID influenced the business that you think -- how does it influence the business? And how do you think the lessons learned from COVID will play into how Lincoln operates going forward?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes, Adam, that's a great question. And I think about, as I mentioned, 125 years in business. I've been with the company 25 years. And so lots of different challenges, right? I mean, we wake up every day with a new challenge, a new opportunity. You know I've been through different roles. So I've had a role in Corporate Controller, I was Chief Information Officer, Chief HR Officer. So I expect change and challenges. And the pandemic surely brought a whole host of different sites -- types of challenges. We're very proud of our teams, the resilience in how we have executed on our strategy, the agility to be able to change our operating environments and be able to really drive the execution and our ability to serve our customers. And you saw that we had the third highest earnings of record after 125 years. We had the third highest cash flow generation in our business. Our fourth quarter, we had a record fourth quarter cash flow. So we're very proud of the resilience and the agility that our teams have shown throughout this environment. One of the things that I'd highlight is this dynamic of working in a remote, flexible environment. I just don't see that going away. We've learned how we can manage effectively and executing our strategy, working from a global standpoint across all of our teams. We're able to harness the ability to leverage technology. How do we continuously drive best practices, we have what we call the Lincoln Business system. How do we foster that level of collaboration throughout all of our various teams. So we know that's not going away. We learned how to operate very effectively in that environment. And so that introduces an ability to accelerate the level of business execution. So we're very pleased in how we operate in this environment.
Adam Seiden
analystYes. No, I appreciate that answer. And I could think back to everyone on this call, including myself, we've all become Zoom experts in the last year. So work from home and things like that feels like definitely here to stay. So maybe if we transition a bit into the business, the gen fabrication market was up, and generally, that's been a good bellwether for your business. So while the directions, I think, of each of the individual markets that you guys break out in your pie charts where you're exposed to, it seems pretty apparent. I was hoping you could give us a bit more about where these individual end markets are versus their peak and trough levels?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes, it's a great lead into a broad discussion in our business. So about 1/3 of our business, as you know, Adam is in general industry, general fabrication. And as I reflect back 2019 into 2020 and where we are at now in the cycle, I think about the European business in the early part of 2019 going into a contraction in the industrial cycle. We measure and we track all the same measures that you all track. The PMI, the ISM, all the different measures. The U.S. entered more of a contraction mode in the middle of 2019. So as we were going into 2020, we knew we were navigating in a challenging industrial environment. Obviously, the COVID experience and the depth of what that did to the industrial markets were pretty significant. That said, you saw it starting in the third quarter, into the fourth quarter, general opening up. We saw the expansion unit above 50 is the ratings that we know we track really accelerating those markets. So now we're seeing positive momentum. That has been consistent now, third, fourth quarters on general industries. And we feel we're pretty nicely seated in an expansionary type mode in general industry. That's a 1/3 of our business. I move to heavy industries. Heavy industries, we estimate about 18% of our business. That cycle peaked in the early part of 2019 and then showed steady declines, contraction throughout 2019. And then when the COVID pandemic hit, there was a push to conserve cash. There was a pullback on capital investment. That continued throughout 2020. A lot of discussion in the normal cycle now of an acceleration in the cycle for mining, for ag, for construction type of equipment. So we're pretty optimistic. The comparables do get easier, but we expect to start to seeing some growth probably the middle of the year. And as we exit the year, you're going to start seeing -- approaching, I believe, back to 2019 levels, albeit at the downside of the cycle. But we believe that the heavy industry segment is on a growth trajectory, probably the middle of the year. I think about automotive, transportation, that amounts to about 17% of our business. One of the challenges that we know all of is dealing with the electronics, semiconductor shortages. So the automotive sector transportation was positive in the fourth quarter. We expect that to continue, although because of those dynamics, it may be a bit challenge to get to production levels back to 2019. But generally positive as we look at transportation, automotive real demand in that cycle. When you think about structural. Structural is a smaller part of our business. 10%, was down fourth quarter. We're up third quarter. Our teams are generally positive on structural for the year, although I would say, I feel it's more choppy. So I think overall bullish for the year, although we may be up one quarter down the other quarter. And that's really depending on projects on the infrastructure side, whether it's on bridges or roads repairs and equipment used for as well as energy, power generation, that sort of thing. Broadly speaking, though, as the last segment I'll comment on is energy. That's been compressed, largely driven by oil and gas, as we know. And that continued to be compressed throughout 2020 since that March, April time frame. And we expect energy to be challenged, more of a bearish outlook for energy for the balance of the year. So most industry segments, with the exception of energy, we believe will be driving towards growth mode by the middle of third quarter time frame, and we're pretty positive in the outlook from an industrial standpoint.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. And that's a great overview of all the individual pieces there. Just a little bit more on trends. And I think you alluded to some -- you mentioned some of it, for some of the end markets. But when we think about intra-quarter in Q4 and then even how we're shaping up here in January, early February, how would you describe the trends, the intra-quarter, intra-month trends there within the various end markets?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveWell, inherently, the momentum was more positive as we progressed into the fourth quarter, and we didn't see a pullback on that momentum into January. So we're pretty optimistic in the full year. We talked about -- we gave some assumptions for the full year of us being in the growth mode for 2021, and with an expectation of being in the high single-digit type of growth, organic growth for the year. So we're positive in that. We see growth, not just because of a recovery of the pandemic, but starting to see some movement within the cycles, that gives us pretty good trajectory as we go into this first quarter. Now our comments on the first quarter, we were talking about flat to slightly above prior year levels. But we feel now it's largely pre-pandemic. So we feel pretty good that we're going into a growth mode for 2021.
Adam Seiden
analystGreat. I just wanted to dive into a line that you guys talked about on the call, but -- because I think it's impactful for the broader trends of the business. And that is that equipment has been running ahead of consumables, it seemed to be a little bit of a reversal in Q4. So what does that tell you about the market? And was that a function of consumables improving? Or was equipment falling back? Or what was the balance [indiscernible]?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveMaybe I'll start off with equipment. We've been very positive to how our equipment business has progressed. Standard equipment. This doesn't include automation. Our new product introductions, we're really excited about. We've had good trajectory with the structure of our strategic business units we had developed a couple of years ago. Those SBUs are focused on opportunities to improving our market positioning. So we've been very excited about the trajectory of our equipment business over the last couple of years. That said, when we're coming out of a recovery, we generally would expect to see the consumable side of our business accelerate. So we had not seen that into that second -- end of second quarter, third quarter. So because we saw that actually accelerate beyond equipment, that's a good signal that the factories with -- around the globe are starting to operate. And we're very nice to see that. We're actually up on the international side on consumables. So it was a pretty positive trajectory and seeing the consumables activity start to kick up. And you're seeing that the pressures within the market as a result of that.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. So I was trying to think about a bit of your guidance for 2021. And I was looking back for historical precedent here, and what I -- I guess what I had seen here was that sales in 2020 in the Americas were about in line with where they were in 2011 on an absolute dollar basis, and margins were the same, too. So the year after, in 2012, volumes grew by 7.5% and price by 3.5%. And that doesn't feel too far off from where your guidance is on a consolidated basis. So my question is, should we be looking back to 2012 with how the margin trajectory should play out in this business? Or what -- could you just remind us of some of the structural changes that have been made to the business and how the business mix may or may not have shifted since then?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveOkay. So when I think about the Americas segment and your point to that 2012, '13 time frame, I think about that EBIT profile of hovering around that 18% to 19%. Our business in the Americas is the biggest structural change we had in the business, is the acceleration in the investments in our automation business. So that's a key difference. Our automation business has grown through acquisitions, and having organic growth, but it's a larger component of business with a lesser margin expectation than the traditional Americas business. So we're confident that we're going to return to that 18% to 19% type range on the EBIT profile. But we need our automation business to reach the targets of that we would expect. So -- and what we've talked about is that the automation business should be at the consolidated average. So while that is less than the profile of the Americas segment, with what we've continued to do in driving our Americas segment, we're confident that 18% to 19% is kind of where we need to be at, and where we expect to be, as we're operating at the normal levels. Our automation business, the EBIT profile has been more -- it's about half of where the target has been and where we actually achieved a couple of years back, but we need to continue to drive that profile and the EBIT profile within automation to achieve to where our expectations are for Americas.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. And when you think of the -- when you think of margin equation, pricing is certainly part of a component and how you guys can offset raw materials cost inflation. So I think you had spoken to price cost-neutral to positive in 2021. I'm just wondering, is there any variation by segment here?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveWell, I look at the international and the Americas segment, pretty similarly. That's our core welding offering. I kind of put Harris to the side. And Harris, when you see commodity pricing, which is what you saw in the third and fourth quarter, is really driven by silver content and brazing as well as copper. It's very a mechanical approach in how we price those products. And you saw we got elevation in pricing as a result of the escalation in commodity costs there. So I pick Harris, put that to aside for a moment. But on the international and the Americas side, we have very disciplined structure in how we manage pricing. We expect to be responsive to where we see material cost trends. And we would expect that to continue. I don't see any significant variation between the segments.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. And maybe it's a good shift into international then. So international, that being the lowest margin segment of your 3 business, and it's been fairly stagnant, but you haven't gotten any real help from the market at all from a demand side. So can you speak a bit to the path on getting to double digit margins? And what type of volume recovery would you need in order to get there?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes, Adam. So that's a great question that reinforces what our strategy is all about international. We have a very focused team. Our business model, we're very confident it will drive at that double-digit EBIT profile. Just to give you a little -- just a reminder, historically, when we acquired the Air Liquide welding business back in 2017, we knew we were acquiring a low-margin type business. And we knew we needed a lot of work around the business model, around integration of that model. And we've completed that. And so we're very confident that we're progressing into that double-digit EBIT profile. We talked about consistently that we need to see some volumes above that 2019 baseline. And I emphasize that because that is the model that we had shaped after that Air Liquide welding acquisition from 2017. We're very confident that as we start to have some improvements in volumes above 2019, it will arrive at that double-digit EBIT profile.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. And a bit shorter-term here, but if you just think of the components of international and China and Europe, when you're thinking about your expectations for '21, are you thinking about both of those individual regions being up year-on-year or just more improved than off to the levels of what we had seen from the year prior?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveWe're very excited about our team's progress in China. In China, our larger concentrations are in automotive and in heavy industry. So we're very excited about how our business has responded first after the pandemic, and then how it continues to operate. So we're very optimistic, bullish on China, and also same with Europe. We've seen some good trajectory here on orders, particularly on the European side, and we feel like that's going to contribute to growth into 2021.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. So let's shift a little bit to Harris, and like you said, it's a little bit of a different animal, we were talking about pricing, but certainly versus the core business as well to a degree. So Harris has been delivering quite well. Can you talk a bit about the demand in Harris, where the strengths have been, certainly [indiscernible] sort of thing. And really, what I want to get at is the structural differences in margins that we've seen there. And then how much of the 350 basis increase in Harris margins have been real structural changes versus the good volumes that we've seen over the last year.
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes. So Harris, I mean our team at Harris has just done a terrific job in executing on our strategy. And what you've seen on structural changes were not just driven in the last 9 months through this pandemic, right? We had been planning. They have a very disciplined strategic planning process at Harris, and we're executing on that. And in the mid part of 2019, when we started to see that mid-teens profile for EBIT, we said, look, this is kind of the profile of the business. We had completed an acquisition. That's been integrated, and we feel really good about that mid-teens type profile for EBIT. I think about third quarter, if I remember, 17.2% in EBIT, and that volume in the retail side of our business, which is what we're capturing within Harris was significant. And so that incremental was driven by the higher volumes. But our team has just done a great job in navigating the pandemic. I think about the comps in third, fourth quarters of 2021, they'll be a challenge. We did get good momentum out of the pandemic in how we served customers who are in that environment. But we're very confident that, that mid-teens profile for EBIT is where we're at, at Harris. We also have as part of our strategy, we have a mindset of continuous improvement. So our teams are constantly looking for opportunities to improve our business. So we have very healthy operations at Harris, and we're very proud of our team and the execution of the strategy there.
Adam Seiden
analystYes. What a story there. So maybe to shift in thinking about the supply chain, and that was one of the concerns that we had at the onset. And a year ago, myself and your predecessor when we were talking about where there could be potential "impact", supply chain was one of those areas. Certainly, it felt like there's a lot of focus. So curious, how would you view the health of your supply chain today? And how has that fared during COVID. And then speaking to the inventory that you guys have kept on hand, how long do you intend to maintain that safety stock that you have?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes. So Adam, so I would start off just to remind you the strength of our financial position. And we have such strength that we have. We have the flexibility to deal with all kinds of uncertainties. When you look at our working capital position, I mean, we're at the top decile type of performance as a business. And so as we went into the pandemic, we knew there were a lot of uncertainties in that it would be prudent wise for us to keep an elevated level of inventories, particularly our top running items or A-items through that environment. And so we decided to do that. It hasn't been a drain for us from a financial standpoint. But we just felt that it was important with so much uncertainty to keep that kind of posture. As we ended the fourth quarter, we were about 5 days higher in inventories than we would typically be. But we just continue to feel that just all the uncertainties surrounding supply chain. We have a very strong supply chain. We haven't had any significant disruptions from a customer standpoint, customer service standpoint, we just feel that we need to navigate with a little bit of caution with all the uncertainty, supply chain and pandemic. We're still, as you know, we're still deep into the pandemic. We'll probably keep that posture until the -- at least the middle part of 2021 and kind of reassess how conservative we need to be in managing our position from a supply chain standpoint. But I just think it's a wise thing to do, just knowing there's so much uncertainty within the markets.
Adam Seiden
analystGot it. So maybe to think broadly over the last 6 to 8 years or so, but thinking about just where organic growth has trended, and there's certainly been a whole lot that's happened in the macro world. But just trying to get your sense of the different factors on demand, how -- what's been evolving? What's been changing? Has there been any changing in competition, the use of materials? Or what are the different drivers for broader growth that you've seen over the last 6, 8 years? And how do you think that sets out for the next 6 to 8 years?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes. I mean that's a key area that we spend a lot of time focused on is what's the longer-term trajectory for organic growth, which is really what you're getting at. Obviously, one dynamic is the mix of our business and the different cycles of the industries that we serve. And so that has an impact, one industry could be up, other industries could be down, and seek the trajectory of the cycles. But I think what's important is that longer term, we believe that just pure organic growth tied to the cycle should amount to 3% to 4% type organic type growth. When you look at it historically, the last 6, 8, 10 years, there were some intentional positions that we took in certain markets where we didn't feel like we were getting compensated for our value proposition. So we pared back in markets like in China and Russia and Brazil. We just felt that with our value proposition and how we serve the markets that we weren't compensated. So that had an impact on the level of growth that you would see from our reported numbers. We also had the dynamics of Venezuela. And we had -- we were the market leader there, and we had to abandon that a few years back. So those -- if you're looking at long-term and looking at our model, those are some of the historical impacts to our -- what you would see in terms of growth. Now going forward, we're very confident in the strength of the industries that we serve. We're also very confident in what automation provides us as upside growth. So we like to feel that automation will give us 2x what we would typically see within that industrial cycle. So that would be 6% to 8% type profile of growth that we anchor on from an automation standpoint. So when you add those back together, I mean, we're very much focused on our strategy in top line growth of being that mid- to high single-digits type trajectory for growth. We're very confident in that kind of profile of our business.
Adam Seiden
analystYes. So you mentioned automation, I can't let that one go before we leave. So if you think about automation, on the call last week, you spoke to some trends outside of the typical spaces that we hear you talk about in automotive and heavy fab. Could you speak to what areas within gen fab that you're seeing more automation usage? And really, what I guess I'm getting at is, what's driven that interest in technology today versus the past?
Gabriel Bruno
executiveYes. So let me give you just a couple of observations. So you know historically, our larger concentration is in the automotive and heavy industry side of the business. And that continues to be a focus for sure. But over the last, I would say, maybe 18 months or so that our team has also been driving level of activity around general industries. And I give you a couple of examples, like on the appliance side. We had an acquisition a couple of years ago that provided us some capabilities and inroads into the appliance industry. And so we've had some very good success there. We also have had a lot of interest on the packaging side. I mean, even within this pandemic environment, you see the level of escalation of interest in looking at opportunities in packaging. So our teams have been broadening out the level of engagement on the general industry side. And we believe that, that kind of profile will give us a broadening level of engagement in cycles that will complement each other. And so we're excited what that means for us in the future. And we've got nice growth potential there. As I mentioned on the call, Chris added to this, and Chris kind of drove the message home is that, look, we've got a business model that is very healthy, that we've continued to shape, and we saw a step change of improvement in the level of activity, coating and ores. There is a lag in how we recognize revenue in the automation business. But we're confident that by the middle of 2021, we'll start to see improvements in that part of our business. And we've got the business model that we feel long-term is going to allow us to achieve our 2025 strategy. And our 2025 strategy is to reach $1 billion in sales when you look at automation and the additive type component of our business.
Adam Seiden
analystExcellent. Well, that's a double, right? So -- well, great. I appreciate very much, Gabe, for you joining us and Lincoln Electric for joining us again at the Barclays conference here. We look forward again to seeing you next year. And thanks, again.
Gabriel Bruno
executiveOkay. Great. Nice to see you Adam.
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