Lincoln Electric Holdings, Inc. (LECO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 9, 2023

NASDAQ US Industrials Machinery conference_presentation 35 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Bryan Blair

analyst
#1

Good morning. Welcome to Day 2 of the 18th Annual Oppenheimer Industrial Growth Conference. Next up, we have outperformer, Lincoln Electric, represented by CFO, Gabe Bruno today. Good morning, Gabe.

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#2

Good morning, Bryan.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#3

For those a little less familiar with the Lincoln story, maybe provide a quick intro, history of the company, overview of your current reporting structure and strategic priorities.

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#4

Sure. Thanks, Bryan. So glad to be here today, Bryan, and those interested in hearing the Lincoln story. This year marks our 128 years in business. And so we are the global market leader in arc welding, cutting and automation solutions. And so very well recognized brand in our industry with a broad footprint around the globe. When you think about Lincoln, you think about the welding experts, deep technology footprint, anchored around keen knowledge in metallurgy in software in electronics, and how do we provide capabilities to enhance the productivity and efficiency of our customers. So very much a solutions application-driven technology company. And so when we think about productivity and the introduction of new products, we like to emphasize the metric that we call a Vitality Index and give you perspective, the velocity of new product introductions. In 2022, 57% of our sales and equipment were from new introductions over the last 5 years. And I say that to emphasize how we anchor in our capabilities to be able to introduce new ways to drive productivity and efficiency within the welding experience. So we serve a broad end market base in various industries, and we tailor our solutions to be able to be responsive to what best fits the industries from the welding application standpoint. We have very much a structured strategy that emphasizes how, we're going to grow and grow in what we have defined into the high single-digit, low double-digit type of trajectory. We also are very disciplined in thinking through how we continue to shape our business model. And so we translate that in results of our operating profit. So we have defined -- you can review our investor deck and our website, but we have very structured peaks in this strategy cycle that we believe differentiate ourselves in the marketplace, to drive accelerated growth, to look for opportunities, to continue to develop our business through acquisitions. And to do it in a very disciplined way measured through metrics like an operating profit or a return on invested capital, which is a top quartile type performance. So we look to a very balanced capital allocation strategy and very much a high cash-generating business and a focus on the long term of cash conversion ratio of 100%. So that's a little bit background of our business.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#5

Excellent overview. You mentioned kind of the technology underpinning like -- and that's been part of our thesis. We think it's still pretty broadly underappreciated. We'll certainly hit on some of the key points there. Also mentioned the relatively broad end market exposure that you have. Perhaps walk through key end markets, where you're seeing the greater strength, what are areas of relative weakness, how you see markets progressing through '23.

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#6

Yes. So I'd like to walk through this in terms of the biggest -- smallest parts of our end markets. And we think about the trajectory of our business over the last couple of quarters, I mean, 85% of our end markets have continued to be in a growth mode. The largest part of our business, we define within general industry, so almost 1/3 of our business tied to what we define as general industries. And that has been relatively stable strength over the last few years. As we know, key measures like industrial production or PMI are key market indicators to give the perspective of what's happening in general industry. And so we're pretty pleased that we continue to have growth in this first quarter. We're mid-single digit type growth in general industries, pretty stable level of demand. And so despite a lot of the challenges that we read about in industrial production or PMI, we continue to see the stability. So that's a good driver -- a significant driver to our business, so that's been pretty positive. When you look at now heavy industries or automotive, which represents about 19% each of our business, we think about good tailwinds that have contributed to a nice backlog and a nice order pattern. Heavy industries, for example, this is servicing a lot of the big players in heavy construction or large ag or in mining, and that, also continue to see very strong momentum. We're up in the low teens and entering the second quarter, again, good level of demand and backlog to service that part of the market. So we continue to be pretty well positioned in how we see heavy industry is evolving. We still have some room before we believe we're going to hit our peaks that we saw in 2019 in heavy industries. So we're pretty positive on how that positions us. And we do play it [ close eye ] as we all read about some of the big players in this market and what it means into the next 12, 18 months, but our current position is pretty robust. Then you've got the automotive side, and I think about automotive from an industry standpoint in a broad way. You've got real activity in the short term, that means how are we servicing production to meet demand on the automotive space. And we all know about what has -- how has inventory positioning had a real impact on production. So we continue to see strength there. Again, first quarter, we were up in the low teens and with good momentum. One of the key indicators, short term, for us is keeping an eye on the inventory levels. And so we don't believe as the market has -- the industry has outlined that the industry will go back to pre-COVID levels, and I think they've reached an interesting balance in how the industry looks at inventory levels. But consumer demand has been relatively steady, considering increases in interest rates. And so we see continued strength in the automotive industry as we enter the second quarter. And then we think about energy. Energy is about 16% of our business as we estimate, and we saw very good strength up in high teens in this first quarter, good momentum, big demand entering in the second. Oil and gas represents about 2/3 of energy. And so we saw good strength there. I mean we're positioned in renewables, like, for example, wind applications that are specifically tied to technology offering that we have. So we see good potential on wind renewables as well. Where we've seen a little bit more pressure is on the structural infrastructure side of our business. And that's -- it's been down the last couple of quarters. I think some of that, we believe, is market driven. I like to track things like Architecture Billings Index as an indicator, but we also have some choppiness that represents some of the project work that we do, do in this end market as well as tough comps. I mean we've had a very strong run in this space over the last 2 years through COVID into 2021 and 2022, so with tough comps, but we feel there's still some strength in the market, and we'll see how project-driven type activity progresses in the months to come.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#7

Understood...

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#8

That's a broad view of the markets.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#9

Yes, I appreciate the walk through there. And I guess same question on geographic trends. Most exposure in the Americas that's been -- in the region, quite impressive growth in region. International has actually felt a bit better than I anticipated at least. Just curious what you're seeing regionally, the puts and takes, and how you see the trend shape.

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#10

Yes. So let's start with the Americas. We've seen very robust activity. Our volumes were up 11% in this first quarter with strong momentum into the second. So Americas continues to be very robust. All the product lines have been -- are up. The automation component of Americas have been very strong with record backlog levels. Think about the automation business now that's running at a $900 million clip. And with 75% of that business has been the Americas segment. So very strong momentum on the Americas side, which is very broad-based. And so we're pretty well positioned when you think about the momentum into the second quarter from Americas, the highest margin part of our business, and so we're pretty well postured there. On the international side, yes, you're right, Bryan. The activity level was more stable than you otherwise think, considering what we're seeing on the industrial side. But we saw some strength across Asia. Middle East has been relatively as strong. A little choppiness in Europe. There's a little bit of timing of impact on business activity in Russia and year-over-year and some timing of projects. So we feel that the European context is more stable as we go into the second quarter. But those are some of the areas that we're watchful of. If you remember this time last year, China had some lockdowns progressing into the second quarter. So China, easier comps. That's less than 5% of our business, but when you think about year-over-year, you should see a little bit better activity in China. So we're tracking the industrial space, as you can imagine, pretty closely in China. But that's kind of the puts and takes on the international side. And then on the Harris side, all of the pressure on volume is driven off our retail business, which is our sales -- consumer-driven type sales to the big boxes. And that has, over the last few quarters, been weaker. Last year's first quarter was very strong. So the comps are pretty challenged on the retail side. But there's a dynamic there of real demand, but also inventory corrections and adjustments to stabilize big boxes to the demand level they're seeing. And so we're hopeful that we've gone through the larger portion of any inventory adjustment on the retail side, but we're looking for more stability there. But all in all, outside of that, been relatively stable on the Harris side.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#11

Okay, understood. Setting aside automation for now, it certainly deserves its own discussion. Maybe walk through Lincoln Electric's exposures to some of the other mega trends in terms of industrial spending, re-shoring infrastructure spending kind of the broadening wave of electrification. From our perspective, your team is pretty attractive in -- likely accelerated exposure in each of those areas. Just perhaps touch on that, and what you think the opportunity set is going for...

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#12

Okay. So let me talk about the mega trends there first, Bryan. Then we can talk about automation or we may leave that in and speak specifically...

Bryan Blair

analyst
#13

Let's leave automation out, I guess, for now, and we'll focus on that more singularly.

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#14

Okay. All right. So let's talk about some of these mega trends. So a lot of conversation as the challenges in the markets and supply chain has pressured industrial markets, us, others in the industrial space in thinking about supply chain. And obviously, we've lived through a quite challenging environment. I mean our posture was to make sure that we minimize any risk of customer disruption. And so we were intentional in building up inventories to respond to that. But with that dynamic, more and more challenging the thinking of, do we need to rethink supply chains and think about near-shoring or re-shoring to tighten up the ability to respond to shocks into supply chain. And so we see some of that, but it's very hard to quantify what that means into incremental capacity. But we do know this, that the largest driver, we believe, will be is in some investment in the Americas. And obviously, that's the biggest part of our business. And so whether it's a dynamic in North America, we're looking at capacity in Mexico to support the U.S. or Canada and looking at that dynamic through South America, I mean we -- our footprint here is well positioned to introduce automation solutions to support labor challenges in re-shoring or near-shoring and participate in what should be a tailwind for growth in the long term, again, has been responsive to looking at supply chain, looking at other capacity constraints in the market. Then when you go to infrastructure, we all know there's been a lot of bills passed, a lot of money being invested in kind of updating infrastructure. And we estimate that about -- some of the studies we've done internally, that about 10% to 15% of our sales or revenues are tied to -- direct or indirectly, to infrastructure, renewables, electrification types of investments. And so we believe that while the administration has taken some time to look at projects and investments that will begin to accelerate, and so we'll be participating as fabrication needs progresses with an infrastructure type of tailwind. So I think that's more ahead of us in looking at the acceleration of infrastructure investment. And then when you think about electrification broadly, Bryan, another mega trend, we think there's a long tailwind there. And the way I like to frame that thinking of strategically is in 3 buckets. One is, how does -- particularly on the automotive industry, how does welding content, how is that impacted by going from a traditional internal combustion type of vehicle to an electric vehicle? And so our -- we believe and our engineers have gone through this, that the value-add content within a vehicle is a push. There's a little bit of trade-offs between a battery carriage and engine and components and that sort of thing, but we think that's a push. And that's a pretty important assumption for us as we look to the impact of a changing footprint in the automotive space. And then you think about capital investment, which is how is, for example, the automotive industry then retooling capacity to be able to serve an EV type of space versus traditional ICE vehicle. And we know that typically in the industry, I mean, there's change out of line. So there's not a lot of going back and kind of refurbishing some of the equipment use on traditional lines. So heavy investment over the long trajectory, and you can read the highlights on the big players and how investing in EV. Well, a lot of that ties to the solutions we have in automation, in providing those types of capabilities within the capacity build. And so our industry segment leaders are very much tied, been working with the industry on how our solutions fit into the built-out of capacity. So that's going to be another tailwind driver in the long term. And then the third area that we like to emphasize, which has been a newer area over the last 12 months or so is looking at how we can participate in the built-out of infrastructure to serve electric vehicles, and what kind of DC fast chargers that we can develop and introduce to be able to participate in this significant growth opportunity. So that's how we look at those 3 broad mega trends and how we fit into this over the next few years, which should be very interesting.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#15

Excellent. And perfect segue into discussing recharging initiatives. So your pre-commercialization there, but the high-level potential is quite exciting. Maybe discuss the strategic rationale for getting into the space, why your team is confident that you have a right to play there, you could differentiate via technology service or otherwise, the setup that you've had. And then please confirm the manufacturing capacity that you're adding, I believe, as we speak, sets you up for something in the range of 500 units per month looking into 2024. Is that correct?

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#16

Yes. So let me just back up for a moment. So when you look at our 2025 Higher Standard Strategy, this wasn't built into our strategies. So for us, we think of this as a low-risk, high-opportunity type of development. And when you think about why we are contemplating this additional capacity and working into this part of the market, it anchors around our capabilities around power electronics. When you think about the depth we have in engineering resources, for our welding equipment, we think about electronic components, modular type development that fits in the needs of creating the kind of DC fast chargers, and we're into the 150-kilowatt type framework to make it available into the market. And so we think about providing high-quality, reliable type fast chargers in a market that's just beginning to evolve. And our team is very confident that we could develop capabilities to serve out of either the public or private sectors and in the fast charging space. So just to give a perspective on some of the numbers we think about in terms of the market. So currently, best estimates saying there's about 30,000 charge points in the public markets, of which the biggest percentage of that is with Tesla. The administration, with all the infrastructure bills and the focus on driving an EV level of progression, talks about developing an infrastructure that's about 500,000 types of charge points. There was a study done this time last year that talked about the U.S. infrastructure requiring about 1.1 million plus of charge points. And you just keep that in context when you think about traditional ICE and gas stations, and how far do you need to go to see a gas station versus how far you need to go to see an EV charge point that you don't need to wait around for a couple of hours to get charged up as not part of your home charging network. So we believe that we could introduce high-quality, reliable DC fast chargers and either working in a public sector with charge point operators or working in the private side with dedicated types of charges for fleets and be able to serve a rapidly growing type market. And so we're actively working on the generation of DC fast chargers to introduce. We're working through the commercialization strategies. We've allocated resources to focus on driving the strategy and then building out the capacities to be able to manufacture, assemble these DC fast chargers. And inherently in all that, it's all leveraging our core capabilities. So when we mentioned an investment in capital for capacity of $50 million, that can be re-purposed for other parts of our business. We're talking about leveraging electronics and engineering capabilities, which are core to power sources that we provided on the welding side. So it fits really nice, it's low risk for us, high opportunity. And so we're driving to introduce product and production capabilities as we wind down this year in this fourth quarter and have that capacity level. Bryan, that reaches 500 units a month, but you can tell over the numbers, a lot of potential here. So we think it's worth the investment, and its lower risk profile for us to engage in this opportunity.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#17

Yes, absolutely. It's very exciting. I think as you framed, relatively low risk, potentially very high reward, you make that bet all day. And then we know based on your current pricing, it's about $100,000 per unit...

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#18

Yes. So just to give you a perspective of that. So we believe right now the market is between that $90,000, $100,000 per unit. And we believe it's not going to be dilutive to our operating margin. So the reward potential there is very nice.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#19

Excellent. All right. Price cost is always a focus for investors with your story. Any update there? You've navigated through obviously a pretty unique inflationary period. You've stayed on your proverbial front foot in managing price cost well. That's consistent with historical Lincoln experience. Where do you sit now on that front and expectations over the future?

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#20

Yes. The quick answer is no change, right? So we're very disciplined, long-standing discipline in managing price cost. Our posture is price cost neutral. That's where we were throughout the last few years in the cycle and highly inflationary type pressures. So very much managing an inflationary environment. Some quarters may be a little bit ahead, some quarters may be a little bit behind, but we're constantly going back and anchor on that price cost neutral posture. We continue to operate in an inflationary environment. I think we all recognize that. So we did introduce some pricing actions as we exited the first quarter into the second. And we estimate somewhere between 100, 200 basis points of incremental pricing impact into beginning in the second quarter. And again, that's continuing to maintain that price cost neutral posture. So we're very disciplined. It's a long-standing, clear picture on how we manage our business, and we'll maintain that consistent practice.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#21

Understood. All right. Now focusing on automation, most exciting aspect of the Lincoln story. We couldn't discuss the other mega trends without bringing up automation, just to tie in strategically to so much of your forward growth path. You confirmed that you're above $900 million, run rate according to revenue, so well on your way to exceeding the $1 billion target of the 2025 strategy. Maybe speak to the real differentiation of that platform, the technology advantages that you have, what you've built out in terms of the capability set organically and via acquisition that really sets the Lincoln Electric apart from the market.

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#22

Yes. So Bryan, first thing I'd emphasize is that we are very much differentiated competitively. I mean we are invested in automation, automation solutions. It's been long-standing, and we are far apart when you start to look at the competitive landscape. We think there's a lot of potential that we've invested. And just to give you -- just to remind the audience about the trajectory over the last few years, so 2020, when we launched our Higher Standard strategy, we were talking about driving towards $1 billion in revenue by 2025. And when you looked at our business then, we were tracking at $400 million in 2020. So it may seem like it was a bit of a stretch objective, but we knew that with the capabilities and the footprint that we have built out, with the secular drivers of labor constraints, need to drive productivity, efficiency and capacity that we know that's a long-term growth driver, and so we've been very much invested in this space. And we went from $400 million in 2020 to $500 million about in 2021, tracking $650 million last year. We acquired for Fori Automation with a run rate of $200 million plus. So we talked about entering 2023 at $850 million, and now we're at $900 million trajectory. So we know that we've got very much, even through just an organic growth, a trajectory to reach $1 billion in revenue. We just announced a small acquisition in Brazil, Powermig, just last week, so we continue to look for opportunities to shape our automation footprint. But the first point I'll make is that we're very much committed and invested in what we believe is going to be a long-term driver for growth. And you've seen it in our numbers and the capabilities that we've introduced. So now you think about what have we done in -- capability-wise. And we have steadily looked at opportunities to continue to shape how we go to market, and very broad-based automation solutions with deep engineering and technical capabilities. We have over 2,000 engineers, technicians tied into automation solutions. And so very deep capabilities surrounding the automation footprint. 2 million-plus square feet of space increasing. You got an update now for this other -- this new acquisition. But what it tells you is the level of investment that is anchored into the long-term growth trajectory of this business. When you think about end markets, we know when you go back in time that the leaders in automation solutions were driven around heavy industries and automotive. Those are the 2 parts of end markets that were really driving a step change in industrial automation. And we've seen that evolve. And so our focus has been in introducing a broader solution set that will tie into general industries. And right prior to the acquisition, we evolved our business in the footprint to be 1/3 automotive, 1/3 heavy industries and 1/3 general industry. So very much a balanced footprint and continuing to introduce solutions. So we, in the last couple of years, introduced Cobots, for example. And Cobots is a much simplified robotic application and that can be introduced in small, midsized fabricators to drive an automation solution. And the acquisition of Fori introduced some other capabilities around end-of-line testing or material handling with automated guided vehicles that, again, continue to enhance how we introduce solutions to our customers that are again, challenging ways in how to respond to welding, fabrication needs in a more efficient, productive way. So that's our thinking behind broadening our capabilities and thinking through what it means for us in the long term to drive the growth trajectory that we know is there and we've proven is there. Now within that framework, we've had a lot of acquisitions. And through the acquisitions, we've had to think through how do we optimize our business model. And just in 2020, 2021, we were talking about an EBIT profile, fragmentation that would push on in kind of the mid- to high single digits of EBIT. So it was dilutive to the overall motto of the company and particularly, in the Americas since 75% of automation is within the Americas segment. And so we have done a lot of work in shaping what we call our Lincoln business system that's anchored around our automation business. And so what that does is that gives us confidence from the front end, how we quote, how we process orders, how we execute on projects to the discipline surrounding confidence and ensuring that we don't have surprises, we don't have issues, we don't have constraints to be able to deploy our solutions. And at the same time, how do we leverage capabilities around commercial, engineering, back-office processes. So as we exited in our core business, 2022, I mean we had moved at high -- the mid- to high single-digit EBIT profile to a low-teens type profile. So that significant incremental type margins contributed in reshaping our business model. And it's taken all of these fragmentation of businesses and capabilities and bringing it into the market, into a single Lincoln automation solution. So that's been key. The acquisition that we just announced is a $200-plus million business, at low double-digit type EBIT profile. I was just there yesterday. So our COO and I yesterday visited our Fori operations here in Michigan and just continued to track the deployment of the integration work, which is broad-based, to deal with systems and processes and commercial strategy and bring them into an integrated type foothold in our U.S. automation-type focus, for example, here. And so very much confident it's going to be a real positive contributor to our long-term success and very much continue to focus to grow this part of our business.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#23

Excellent. And the traction is certainly there, there's no doubting that. So exciting to see where the strategy goes at over time. We have a little bit of time left. Perhaps speak to how Fori Automation has changed customer conversations and allowed your teams to partner more and more. It seems like you're going to be closer to the OE given the capability set of Fori, should be quite important in terms of EV and other considerations over time. So that's exciting. Just curious how those conversations have shifted if there is anything to note to date. And then quickly touch on how Powermig furthers the progression there...

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#24

All right. So just think about, I mean, a deepening footprint on the automotive industry, and we've already talked about some of the growth drivers, EV, otherwise, an investment there. So we're very well positioned to continue to grow where we see the fast-growing market and a change out in the industry on EV. What it also does, though, is it provides us the broader capabilities that we can introduce into general industries. So when you think about, for example, material handling capabilities with ATV and then we tie that into what we do already with a lot of larger scale and general industry or heavy industry types of opportunities. So it continues to enhance capabilities, it deepens the alignment within the automotive industry in what we know is going to be an accelerating type of growth opportunity. Now Fori also provided us a broader footprint internationally, and that continues to be an area that we continue to shape. So when you think about Korea or India or China, I mean, that footprint there is going to continue to develop because we think that's a nice opportunity for us on the international side. That ties also into the Powermig acquisitions. It's a business in Brazil, smaller type business, but focused on automation, and it just continues to complement where we see a lot of opportunity on the international markets that we'll continue to shape.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#25

Make sense, very helpful color. I think we're out of time here, Gabe. Any message you'd like to leave the audience with?

Gabriel Bruno

executive
#26

Thank you for your confidence. Bryan, you mentioned that most exciting is automation. I would say it's the most exciting. We're excited about all parts of our business. And the automation strategy is going very well, and we are excited about that. But really, when you think about broad level of technology solutions, and what we provide in the market, we're excited about them all. And there's a couple of opportunities here that we're leveraging core capabilities like EV, like additives that are all upside with low risk on the investment side. So thank you for your confidence in our business, and we continue to look for opportunities to grow and shape our business model.

Bryan Blair

analyst
#27

All right. Thanks again, Gabe.

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