Macpower CNC Machines Limited (MACPOWER) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 20, 2025

National Stock Exchange of India IN Industrials Machinery earnings 107 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Vinay Pandit

executive
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, I welcome you all to the Q3 and 9 months FY '25 post-earnings conference call of Macpower CNC Machines Limited. Today on the call from the management team, we have with us Mr. Rupesh Mehta, CMD, along with his management team. As a disclaimer, I would like to inform all of you that this call may contain forward-looking statements, which may involve risk and uncertainties. Also, a reminder that this call is now being recorded. I would now request the management to detail us about the business and performance highlights for the quarter, the growth plan and vision for the coming year, post which we will open the floor for Q&A. Over to you, sir.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#2

Yes. Good morning, everyone. First of all, I earnestly welcome you all of Q3 '25 post-results conference call. We will have a brief about the overall performance of the company for the quarter and 9 month which we will take your -- the financial result and presentation have been posted on the company's website and hope you have had a opportunity to go through the same. So, it's already I think, financials and the presentation is in website and Vinay ji also sent the presentation to everyone. So Vinay ji, shall we start the Intex or after question and answer?

Vinay Pandit

executive
#3

Sir, if you have any further comments on the performance, otherwise we can play the video.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#4

We can play. We would like to show you the video. [Audio Gap] [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Submitting the first question from Khush Nahar.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#6

First question you talked about exports. So I think in Q2, we had exported in the Middle East -- we had got an order. So similarly, Q3, did we have any export products? And going ahead, how do we see exports as a percentage of revenue?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#7

No, we just focused Khush ji for the export. First time we had executed exports. [Foreign Language].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#8

My second question was, are we hiring today any senior management level personnel since we're going ahead we're also eyeing for this big expansion? So are we having more people today?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#9

Senior level [Foreign Language]. They're very good enough to handle this expansion. [Foreign Language].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#10

Sir, could you guide how are the realization? How do we expect to end in FY '25 and FY '26 going ahead considering our order book? [Foreign Language].

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#11

In average price?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#12

Average.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#13

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#14

Right sir. Just one last question on the interest cost. [Foreign Language] which is much higher than our other previously quarterly run rates. So any debt we have taken? What is the reason for this?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#15

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#16

Sir, just one last question, CapEx sliding sir if you can give for the next years 2 years. [Foreign Language] in terms of value?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#17

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#18

Right sir. Thank you.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#19

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Operator

operator
#20

We will take the next participant, Mr. Daval Shah.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#21

Yes. So 2, 3 questions. First is what is the update on the land which we are finding for the MOU, which we had signed for defense? So some update, if you can share. And then over the next, after this expansion of 500 machines, as a long-term planning for the next 3- to 5-year period, you are participating in various exhibitions, we are seeing very good response. Now we are going to participate in Germany plus focus on exports. So how will you show the customers that you have the capacity to grow and you have -- when they come for the visit. So what are the plans for that?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#22

Thank you for your question. [Foreign Language] first of all you have to sign the MOU with the government, then demand of land in a district collector office. After that [Foreign Language] you have to submit a project with everything; manpower, water supply, electricity, or [Foreign Language].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#23

[Foreign Language] foreign environment clearance and from the canal division [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#24

[Foreign Language] almost 50% to 60% [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#25

Fantastic. [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#30

[Foreign Language] Overall [Foreign Language] 200 peoples we added in the last 9 months [Foreign Language]

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analyst
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executive
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executive
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#36

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Operator

operator
#37

I will request you to come back.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#38

Yes. Sure. I will do that. Thanks.

Operator

operator
#39

We will take the next question from Manthan Zaveri. Manthan, you can go ahead.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#40

Am I audible?

Operator

operator
#41

Yes.

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analyst
#42

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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#43

Yes.

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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#45

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analyst
#46

What did we expect in Q4? [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#47

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analyst
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Okay. [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#49

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analyst
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So, can we expect [Foreign Language] the last quarter, it was all-time high, somewhere between 17% to 18%. So, can we expect [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#51

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analyst
#52

[Foreign Language] we will steadily grow 20% to 25%. [Foreign Language] Can we still expect [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#53

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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#55

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Operator

operator
#56

We take the next question from Arnav Sakhuja.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#57

So what has been the impact of the fire in your facility? Is it fair to say that the year-on-year fall in revenue that we saw this quarter was partially due to the fire? And also, if you could just highlight if there has been any inventory loss due to this fire.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#58

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#59

But then since this happened in February, will we see some impact of this in the Q4 numbers?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#60

It is there. There is no manpower there. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#61

So my next question is that given that we have announced temporary deferment of INR 10 crores and another INR 5 crores to INR 6 crores of orders pending due to the payment clearance, these additional INR 15 crores of orders will come through in Q4 over and above our regular sales amount?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#62

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#63

Just one last question. You had mentioned something about exports and you had said that you are using the Intex conference to get some good export orders. So what other methods are we using to boost our exports?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#64

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#65

Just to confirm this INR 42 crore orders from Intex, these were export orders or domestic orders?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#66

Almost. I am not calculating the export in these orders. So totally [indiscernible]. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#67

There are export orders from Intex that you got over and above this INR 42 crores and you are evaluating whether these are ethical to go through with?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#68

Yes.

Operator

operator
#69

We'll take the next question from Devash Shah.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
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executive
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executive
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executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#77

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#78

[Foreign Language] Can we do 24 hours production or not?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#79

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Operator

operator
#80

We go to the next participant, Mr. Manasha. Please go ahead.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#81

Sir. If we see this quarters order book inflow also [Foreign Language] Just wanted to understand [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#82

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analyst
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executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#86

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Operator

operator
#87

We'll move to the next participant Aryan.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#88

Firstly, could you add some color on the new 5x machines? And amongst the product mix which one is going to expect to drive growth going forward?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#89

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#90

Okay. And sir, on the industry level, any growth drivers?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#91

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Operator

operator
#92

We'll go to the next participant, Samarth Nagpal.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#93

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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#94

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executive
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executive
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#102

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Operator

operator
#103

We'll move to the next participant, Piyush Jain.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#104

Just want to understand [Foreign Language] is it only because of we haven't achieved the sales growth or [Foreign Language] Or does this have some reason for it because you remember 1 or 2 quarter back we had discussing we will move margins from 17% to somewhere number of 27% tied with backward integration and all. Is that target remains still on the cards and it's just one of quarter?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#105

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#106

When will we again back on track? At least 17% type of number which we used to do next quarter, next year after 2 quarters? How you're seeing raw material cost is stabilizing in this quarter or what?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#107

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#108

[Foreign Language] What do we see where we'll achieve this?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#109

[Foreign Language] because of higher value, higher – higher end machines [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#110

[Foreign Language] And you'll get into some JV or something. [Foreign Language] You're expecting some defense related maybe CNC machines [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#111

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#112

[Foreign Language] every call I've attended and I've got the opportunity to have a word with you, we were always sounding bullish there is so much of demand in the CNC machines and all and you're also not running for a turnover or something. You're seeing the growth where the profit is there, you've some -- your criteria [Foreign Language] Do you see some signs or some growth slow down or something subdued as per you which you were expecting maybe a 6 months back? [Foreign Language] Are we just going that [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#113

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#114

[Foreign Language] We have seen you last many years. [Foreign Language] So, now if demand is not the problem, our aggression and our workforce, everything is on the place or something. Let's say we start FY '26 after this quarter let's say...

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#115

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analyst
#116

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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#117

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analyst
#118

[Foreign Language] See, I'm not asking for 1 year, 2 year. We know [Foreign Language] execution is not a challenge from your side. I know that. When we will say, because right now everything is set [Foreign Language]. For FY ‘26-‘27, the platform is set for us. Then we will test 2,500, then we will talk about 5,000 machine growth.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#119

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analyst
#120

[Foreign Language] 100%.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#121

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analyst
#122

[Foreign Language] What is right now our bifurcation of Nexa and…

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#123

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#124

Okay. INR 27 crores and 445 machines.

Operator

operator
#125

We'll take the next question from Deepak Pandey.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#126

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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#127

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#128

Not sold [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#129

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analyst
#130

[Foreign Language] We are still at 1,500, 1,600 [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#135

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#136

On the terms of new capacity that are we putting up [Foreign Language], can you just specify the quarter in which you will be commercializing? [Foreign Language] Can you just provide a guidance [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#137

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#138

Not 500 machines the next 2500 machines?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#139

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#140

Okay. And then you'll have the capacity to [Foreign Language] 2000 [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#141

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Unknown Analyst

analyst
#142

[Foreign Language] Why are we pushing the production [Foreign Language]. Why don't we just started using the whole proposals and utilize that capacity as soon as possible? [Foreign Language] Why are we pushing the CapEx ahead?

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#143

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analyst
#144

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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#145

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Operator

operator
#146

We'll take the next question from [indiscernible]

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analyst
#147

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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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analyst
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executive
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#154

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analyst
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Operator

operator
#156

We'll take the next question from Ajay Surya.

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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
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executive
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executive
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analyst
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#164

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Operator

operator
#165

We'll take the last question for the day from Prateek Kothari. We'll take the last question for the day from Shantanu.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#166

Prateek this side. [Foreign Language]

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#167

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executive
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executive
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Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#181

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Operator

operator
#182

Thank you to all the participants for joining on the call, and thank you to the management team for giving us the valuable time. This brings us to the end of today's conference call.

Rupesh Kumar Mehta

executive
#183

Thank Vinay ji [Foreign Language], very nice conference call. [Foreign Language]

Vinay Pandit

executive
#184

Thank you, sir and we will now disconnect. Thank you so much.

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