Madrigal Pharmaceuticals, Inc. (MDGL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 30, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Madrigal Pharmaceuticals Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce Ms. Tina Ventura, Chief Investor Relations Officer. Please go ahead.
Tina Ventura
executiveGood morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us to discuss Madrigal's Second Quarter 2026 results. We issued a press release this morning and posted a slide deck to accompany this webcast on the Investor Relations section of our website. On the call with me today is Bill Sibold, Chief Executive Officer; Dave Soergel, Chief Medical Officer; and Mardi Dier, Chief Financial Officer. They will provide prepared remarks followed by Q&A. Please note on Slide 2. We will be making certain forward-looking statements today. We refer you to our SEC filings for a discussion of the risks that may cause actual results to differ from the forward-looking statements. With that, I will now turn the call over to Bill on Slide 3.
William Sibold
executiveThanks, Tina, and thank you all for joining. Before we review our second quarter results, let me remind you why we're so excited about MASH and why we believe Madrigal is uniquely positioned to lead this market. The market fundamentals are exceptional. MASH is a high unmet need disease with the potential for decades of growth given today's low diagnosis and treatment rates and a rapidly expanding patient population. We are at the forefront of one of the most attractive growth opportunities in the industry. We also have what we believe is the foundational therapy. Rezdiffra is the first approved medicine for MASH, a liver-directed once-daily oral medication with demonstrated efficacy across each MASH subgroup and an outstanding real-world profile. Add to that, our commercial execution, our experienced team and our industry-leading pipeline. We believe Madrigal is exceptionally well positioned to lead in MASH today and define where this market goes over the long term. Slide 4 summarizes how we're executing on our 2 strategic growth priorities. Maximizing the value of Rezdiffra and advancing our pipeline. Rezdiffra continues to exceed expectations as we steadily add patients quarter-over-quarter. Over the last 12 months, Rezdiffra has generated nearly $1.3 billion in net sales, reinforcing its mega blockbuster potential. We're also strengthening the long-term value of the franchise. A key pillar of that strategy has been to build a robust patent estate. Last year, we secured our pivotal 2045 F2-F3 patent. This month, we built on that foundation with 3 additional patents, 2 that reinforce our protection in F2-F3 and 1 supporting our potential F4c indication. As we've done successfully to date, we'll continue pursuing IP that protects the future of Rezdiffra. And because we believe Rezdiffra is the foundational therapy in what will become a large specialty market, we're investing behind it. In less than a year, we built what we believe is the industry-leading MASH pipeline, adding more than 10 programs. We now have 4 clinical stage assets following the initiation of the Phase I study of our oral GLP-1 last month. Each of our programs is designed to build on Rezdiffra's foundation and extend our leadership in MASH for years to come. We've accomplished a tremendous amount in a short period of time, but we're just getting started. Our team continues to execute on these priorities to strengthen the leadership position we've established. Let's move to our Q2 results, where I'll provide an update on Rezdiffra. Dave will discuss our pipeline and Mardi will close with a review of our financials. Turning to Slide 6 and net sales. We are continuing to see strong demand for Rezdiffra. Second quarter 2026 net sales were $364 million, representing year-over-year growth of 71%. This performance continues to reinforce that Rezdiffra is tracking in line with, and in many cases, exceeding the best-in-class specialty launches we compare ourselves to. Our strong performance is a result of successful launch execution. It's driving our near-term results and building the foundation for the long-term growth. We have effectively wired the system to build a broad and durable prescriber base. And importantly, prescribers continue to tell us that Rezdiffra is performing even better in the real world, and that experience is translating into action. Today, our target specialists are prescribing Rezdiffra more often, which is driving greater depth across our prescriber base. That growing depth, combined with broad first-line commercial access, Rezdiffra's differentiated profile and strong patient adherence continues to drive patient growth. That's why we've steadily added patients ending the second quarter with more than 49,000 active patients on Rezdiffra, more than double a year ago. Importantly, momentum remains strong as we progress through the third quarter where we surpassed the 50,000 patient milestone earlier this month, a significant accomplishment in any launch. One of the things we're most excited about is how quickly this market is developing, as shown on Slide 8. From year-end 2023 to year-end 2025, the U.S. addressable market has grown nearly 50% from 315,000 diagnosed F2/F3 patients at our target specialists to 460,000. That's remarkable growth in just 2 years, and it's being driven by exactly what you'd expect in a new therapeutic category, greater disease awareness, increasing diagnosis, more patients being referred to specialists, a growing urgency to treat and increased investment by multiple companies. We have continued to see strong market growth again this year and expect the MASH market to expand at a double-digit pace for the foreseeable future. In fact, we see parallels between MASH and other large chronic disease markets like rheumatoid arthritis, IBD and psoriasis as shown on Slide 9, each started with 1 or 2 therapies and evolved into markets supporting more than a dozen products and more than [ $20 ] billion in annual sales. We believe that MASH will follow the same path and that Rezdiffra has a stronger profile than the first products that launched in any of those categories. And today, we're only about 10% penetrated in a market with a roughly 10% diagnosis rate. Think about that, 10% of 10%, that's 1% of the total potential market. Yet even from that starting point, as shown on Slide 11, Rezdiffra is already generating north of $1 billion in trailing 12-month net sales. That's why we're so excited about the future. We are still at the beginning of what we believe will become one of the largest specialty markets in the industry where we have a first-to-market medicine with a best-in-disease profile. Everything I've discussed so far speaks to the strength and opportunity of Rezdiffra in F2/F3 MASH, but there is another significant unmet need ahead of us in well-compensated MASH cirrhosis, or F4c, as noted on Slide 12. It's an untapped market with no approved therapies and a much higher urgency to treat. With approximately 245,000 patients under specialist care in the U.S., we believe F4c could double Rezdiffra's opportunity. We have an event-driven outcome trial underway in F4c that if positive, is expected to support expansion into this indication and support full approval across F2 to F4c. And we see the market evolving beyond these initial stages as noted on Slide 13. Like other complex chronic diseases, treatment will evolve to include multiple mechanisms, combination regimens and increasingly personalized approaches. That's why we've strategically invested in building the industry-leading MASH pipeline. Rezdiffra gives us a foundation no one else has, allowing us to thoughtfully add complementary mechanisms that can provide even more efficacy, broaden patient reach and define the next generation of MASH therapies. And one of the reasons we believe Rezdiffra foundational is what we've heard consistently from prescribers over the last 2 years of launch. They not only value its liver-directed efficacy, well-tolerated profile and once-daily dosing, but appreciate that Rezdiffra works across each patient's subgroup in clinical practice. That breadth and consistency across patients subgroups is exactly what you want in a foundational medicine, and it's unique to Rezdiffra. Dave will talk more about this in his section and share key data demonstrating Rezdiffra's broad efficacy. So with that, I'll turn it over to Dave.
David Soergel
executiveThanks, Bill. As Bill just mentioned, for a therapy to be truly foundational, it should work effectively across patient subgroups. This is especially true in a heterogeneous disease like MASH. The [indiscernible] on Slide 14, with data from our Phase III MAESTRO-NASH clinical trial demonstrates exactly that. Patients on risk differ consistently demonstrated improvements across key subgroups, including fibrosis stage, diabetes status, BMI and genetic background, risk factors that may expedite disease progression. This is another way in which we are differentiating ourselves from the competition and why health care providers overwhelmingly prescribe Rezdiffra when a patient is diagnosed with F2 or F3 MASH. But we're not standing still. Leadership means continuing to advance the science and generating evidence that supports Rezdiffra's clinical benefit well beyond approval. It's an ongoing effort to better understand Rezdiffra, answer important clinical questions and continue to raise the bar for what's possible in MASH. At EASL this year, we presented more MASH abstracts than any other company. I'll highlight 3 presentations that reinforce our belief that Rezdiffra is the foundational therapy in MASH. First is our F4c analysis on Slide 15 using the anticipated NASH risk model. Anticipate NASH is a validated model developed specifically for patients with MASH cirrhosis. It estimates the patient's likelihood of developing clinically significant portal hypertension or CSPH, and future liver-related events. The MASH field is rapidly evolving, and this model has become increasingly accepted tool for assessing risk in patients with compensated matched cirrhosis. This is an emerging area of science, and we are an early adopter of this new tool. That's an important part of how we approach leadership at Madrigal. We're not simply following the evolution of the field, but we're helping pioneer new ways to understand treatment response and disease progression. We applied the anticipated NASH model to the 122 patient 2-year open-label cohort from our Phase III MAESTRO-NAFLD-1 trial. The proportion of patients classified as higher risk for CSPH, declined from 75% at baseline to 55% at 2 years of resmetirom treatment. Why is this important? The development of portal hypertension is the key pathophysiological inflection point in compensated cirrhosis. Once patients progress to CSPH, their risk of decompensation and other serious liver-related events increases by approximately fivefold. These findings further strengthen our confidence that resmetirom has the potential to delay disease progression and improve long-term outcomes in patients with F4c MASH. The second data set extends our understanding of Rezdiffra beyond the liver. Patients with F2/F3 MASH don't just have liver disease, they also carry substantial cardiometabolic risk. In fact, cardiovascular disease remains the leading cause of death in this population and MASH itself is an independent driver of cardiovascular risk. Our secondary analysis from MAESTRO-NASH and MAESTRO-NAFLD-1 showed significant reductions in the ApoB, including Lp(a) and LDL, regardless of baseline statin use. Taken together, these data suggest is different may positively impact both liver disease and cardiovascular risk. Slide 17 highlights differs performance in the real world. Clinical trials establish efficacy, real-world experience builds prescriber confidence. After treating tens of thousands of patients, prescribers continue to tell us Rezdiffra IS performing even better than they expected. The data at EASL support those observations. In one large gastroenterology practice over a mean follow-up period of approximately 9 months, nearly half the patients achieved at least a 25% reduction in liver stiffness, a key measure of treatment response. Real-world evidence like this complements what we've already seen in our clinical trials and reinforces Rezdiffra's best-in-disease profile. To deepen our understanding of Rezdiffra's full clinical potential, we're broadening our evidence generation efforts across real-world studies, investigator-initiated research in company-sponsored trials. We will continue to pursue the questions that matter most to physicians and patients and work to generate new data that can further inform how MASH is diagnosed, treated and managed. Putting it all together on Slide 19, we have translated our leadership into action. In just 1 year, we built the industry's leading MASH pipeline with more than 10 programs, including 4 clinical stage assets, all anchored by Rezdiffra. This momentum will continue into 2027 when we expect to initiate 3 Phase II trials. The first, we'll evaluate MGL-2086, our oral GLP-1 in combination with resmetirom. Our goal is to potentiate resmetirom's antifibrotic effect. We began dosing MGL-2086 in a Phase I single ascending dose study in June. Results from this first-in-human study will inform the Phase II trial. We also plan to initiate a Phase II study of our DGAT-2 inhibitor of Ervogastat in combination with resmetirom. And we'll engage with regulatory authorities on the design of a Phase II trial combining resmetirom with [indiscernible], our siRNA targeting PNPLA3 in license from Arrowhead in May. We're also progressing 1 of the 6 preclinical siRNA assets that we had licensed from [indiscernible]. We recently nominated the first candidate to move into IND-enabling studies. All of this is advancing alongside our 2 ongoing Phase III Rezdiffra trials. First, our F4c MAESTRO outcome study, which is an event-driven trial that we expect to read out in 2027. And second, the F2/F3 MAESTRO-NASH study, which is primarily histology driven with data expected in 2028. We've made significant progress in a very short period of time. With Rezdiffra's foundation and long-term patent production providing the runway to invest and innovate, we have an opportunity to define the future of MASH care and meaningfully improve the lives of patients. With that, I'll hand it over to Mardi.
Mardi Dier
executiveThank you, Dave. Turning to Slide 20 and a summary of our financial results. We delivered another strong quarter, with second quarter 2026 net sales of $364.3 million, representing 71% growth year-over-year. Demand for Rezdiffra remain strong. We once again steadily added patients, more than doubling patients on Rezdiffra compared to a year ago. We also continue to effectively manage growth to net and continue to expect our gross to net discount to be in the mid- to high 30s for this year. Taken together, these fundamentals support our expectation for continued steady patient adds and robust net sales growth. Moving to operating expenses, which included a total of $35.4 million of noncash stock-based compensation expense in the quarter compared to $25.2 million in the prior year period. Cost of sales for the second quarter of 2026 was $49 million compared to $9.1 million for the prior year period. Cost of sales was primarily driven by an increase in royalties payable to Roche and a write-down of certain work-in-process inventory. R&D expenses for the second quarter of 2026 were $91.2 million compared to $54.1 million for the prior year period. The increase was primarily due to a onetime upfront business development expense of $25 million related to the in-licensing of MGL-0795, a clinical stage siRNA program from Arrowhead. SG&A expenses for the second quarter of 2026 were $289.4 million compared to $196.9 million for the prior year period. The increase was primarily due to continued investment in commercial activities for Rezdiffra including head count for the endocrinology, field force expansion that occurred in the fourth quarter of 2025 as well as marketing efforts, including our DTC campaign. Looking ahead, we expect full year 2026 R&D expenses to be roughly the same as 2025, which is inclusive of the onetime upfront payments we've announced for strategic business development investments in both periods. We expect a full year 2026 SG&A expenses to increase compared to 2025 with the annualization of the Endo sales force as we continue to support the launch of Rezdiffra and build the foundation for long-term growth. Net loss for the second quarter of 2026 was $57.9 million compared to $42.3 million for the prior year period. Net loss for the second quarter was inclusive of a onetime upfront business development expense of $25 million. While our focus remains on supporting our top line growth and building our pipeline, we are also preparing for profitability. Turning to our balance sheet. We ended the second quarter of 2026 with $838.9 million in cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash and marketable securities, compared to $988.6 million at year-end 2025. With a strong cash position, we continue to be well resourced to support the ongoing launch of Rezdiffra, the advancement of multiple pipeline programs and continued business development. So to conclude, on Slide 21, we believe Madrigal is exceptionally well positioned for continued value creation with nearly $1.3 billion in trailing 12 months net sales, Rezdiffra is on its way to a mega blockbuster status. And as Bill said, the third quarter is off to a great start. We've more than doubled the number of patients on therapy over the past year, while the addressable NASH market itself has expanded by nearly 50% in just 2 years, and we believe it's still in the early stages of what will be decades of growth. We're building on Rezdiffra's foundation with the industry-leading pipeline of more than 10 programs. We look forward to multiple future data readouts, including our Phase III F4c trial. We're investing from a position of strength with an R&D strategy designed to extend our leadership and create long-term value. Taken together, we believe Madrigal is exceptionally well positioned, not only for continued growth in 2026, but for sustained value creation for many years to come. I'll now turn the call back over to Tina to begin the Q&A session.
Tina Ventura
executiveThanks, Mardi. Let's move into the Q&A portion of the call. Operator, please go ahead and provide instructions for the Q&A session.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Prakhar Agrawal of Cantor Fitzgerald.
Prakhar Agrawal
analystCongrats on the quarter. I had 2. Firstly, I wanted to ask about the 3Q trends. What are you seeing and expectations for net patient adds for the remainder of the year? Just wanted to get a little bit of better color on what segments are going to drive further growth here. And how do you feel about where the consensus is sitting for 3Q and full year 2026? And second question, you have started targeting endocrinologists last year. Any initial thoughts on what you are seeing on the uptake among endocrinologists. Could that be a meaningful growth segment? Or is it more niche right now?
William Sibold
executiveThanks for the question, Prakhar. It's Bill. Maybe just a comment on where we are year-to-date here. We had really, I think, an exceptional quarter in Q2. That was driven by exceptional execution, exceptional market dynamics. And I think that is really the best indicator of where we're headed for the future. The fundamentals of the business are terrific. We have great access. 2026 is going to be another great year. As you know, we exceeded Q2 expectations. Q3 is off to a great start. We have said and we continue to steadily add patients with over 49,000 patients at the end of Q2, more than doubling year-over-year patient numbers. And we did announce this 50,000 milestone, which -- that is a really remarkable number in any launch. I don't care whether you're in a specialty launch, nonspecial launch, 50,000 represents great progress. And that's something that we got across that in July. So we continue now looking forward to Q3 and beyond to steadily add patients. We've been steadily adding. We're going to continue to steadily add patients through third quarter and through the rest of the year. So I think we're set up really well for '26. But Mardi, do you want to talk maybe a little bit about some of the specifics.
Mardi Dier
executiveYes, absolutely. And Prakhar. As Bill said, we're off to a great start in the third quarter, and we're going to expect to steal the outpatients as he just discussed. And with respect to third quarter and fourth quarter, what we'd like to say is that, yes, we're comfortable with the consensus quarterly growth rate for the rest of the year. So what that means from going the growth rate -- the consistent growth rate from second quarter to third quarter and then again, the consensus growth rate from third quarter to fourth quarter. So taken together, just as we said, robust sales growth for 2026.
William Sibold
executiveAnd Prakhar, just to talk about kind of the segments where it's coming from. This continues to be driven by [indiscernible] for the most part. That's just where the prescriptions happen where we would expect that they're going to continue. You also asked about endocrinology. Endocrinology was a fourth quarter 2025 focus of ours. So we're still really early into that. And you have to remember, endocrinologists, just I'll make 2 real quick points about them. Number one, they've been using GLP-1s for great decade, and they still are seeing lots of MASH and want to talk about Rezdiffra, check that box. Number two, they just got started really in the fourth quarter of last year. So there -- in kind of that first year of launch and HexonGI, they have to take their own time to wire the system, know how they're going to access their NITs, what's the pathway they have for their practice. So lots of potential in endocrinology in time, but you have to just know where they are. They're kind of 9 months into the launch really at this point. But certainly very promising.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Ellie Merle of Barclays.
Eliana Merle
analystCongrats on the strong performance. Just in terms of patient growth, it seemed to accelerate versus the first quarter. I guess what are the drivers of this and your expectations for patient growth from here? And then just in terms of F4c, I guess, how is the event rate tracking in that study? And any clarity on FY '27 you might expect to release the data. I recognize you might not comment, but figured I would try.
William Sibold
executiveThanks, Ellie. Thanks for the question. On the patient growth, now I just want to make sure just [indiscernible] the way we report patient numbers is the number of patients that are on Rezdiffra on the last day of the quarter. And that is the net of patients that are coming in the top of the funnel, and patients that are going at the bottom of the funnel, right? I mean as you get a bigger and bigger denominator, you have more and more patients exposed to potentially dropping off. Now the great news this year is that we continue to steadily add patients as I've said. And we don't see that slowing down at all. But remember, you really have to work a lot harder on the top of the funnel as you have a bigger denominator that patients can fall out of. We're seeing persistency like a well-tolerated oral, well-tolerated oral at the 1-year mark is in that 60% to 70% range. No changes there. Product has been performing exceptionally well. When we talk to the community, we hear stories of persistence, which are even higher than that. So we have focused our efforts with our internal teams on how do you address persistency to have more patients stay on longer. And then how do we work with specialty pharmacy -- pharmacies, et cetera, to get that same result. So it's a real focus of ours to drive the top of the funnel, adding new patients and to keep patients on and then we get to that net number. And we think that we have a really good approach, and that's why we continue to say we expect to steadily add. Maybe Dave, I'll return to you [indiscernible].
David Soergel
executiveYes, sure. Yes, a quick update. So I mean clearly, MAESTRO outcomes is an important trial for the field given the unmet medical need and the fact that this is going to be the first outcomes trial in that foresee to read out with outcomes, which is a big thing for the field. So the good news is we're seeing events accrue in the trial. However, as we said in the past, this isn't like, for example, a cardiovascular outcome study where you have a large number of target events. So in this case, precision is very difficult. And when we can be more precise, we'll provide an update at that point. But right now, we're tracking to 2027, as we said.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Thomas Smith.
Thomas Smith
analystCongrats on the nice quarter here. I was wondering if you could clarify and maybe expand on the comments regarding gross to net and inventory dynamics in the quarter and how you see those evolving through the balance of '26. And then could you also clarify the contribution of Europe to the worldwide revenues and patient numbers. We saw there was an early access program that launched in France during the quarter. Anecdotally from some KOLs, it sounded like there's been some nice early uptake there. But can you just comment on that program and how you think about Europe contribution for the year?
William Sibold
executiveGreat. Tom, thanks. Mardi, do you want to talk about personnel?
Mardi Dier
executiveYes, absolutely. So gross to net, as we said last quarter, our gross to net projected for 2026 is in the mid- to high 30s. And we are right in that zone for 2Q, and that's what we expect for the rest of the year. And that's really balanced with a mostly with a high demand quarter with respect to inventory just as we have with every quarter, no big changes there. So overall, everything is going well for the rest of the year in 2026, as we've discussed, what we believe the growth rate is for the rest of the year. In Europe, do you want me?
William Sibold
executive[indiscernible] Thanks for the question, Tom. Look, contribution of Europe is negligible in the quarter, and we would expect that to be for the year. Now let me just talk a little bit just with ex U.S. in general. We've launched in Germany. And as you say, we have the early access program in France and we received approval in the U.K. A couple of observations. This is not a U.S. disease. It's a global disease. There's a high unmet need. Interest is really high firm prescribers and from patients. Reimbursement is challenged. You have to remember, we're in an MFN context here, where there is still uncertainty about where that all lands. And I think we're going to be in a period in the next 12, 18 months where things are still settling down. So systems have not -- when I say systems, other countries have not yet adopted what the ask is of the administration in FM, which is paying U.S. prices. So that's something that we're at the table. We're talking with all of the governments there about this. I'm really hopeful for a long-term solution. But as I said, in this time where it's just kind of really dynamic and a lot of uncertainty as to where policy lands and so forth, that's why we say it's going to be negligible. But remember, we've only launched in Germany. That's where we've done our build. We've been extremely disciplined about the building we spend there. So more to come in the following quarters. But as I said, it's certainly -- there certainly is a high unmet need. It's just we've got to solve the reimbursement piece. And this isn't a Madrigal's specific issue. This is an industry issue overall.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Ritu Baral of TD Cowen.
Ritu Baral
analystI wanted to drill down a little further on outcomes foresee timing and sort of the drivers there for the data. Can you guys confirm that per your design publication that you're still aiming for that 92 event threshold? Or is there a possibility that you might want to boost powering based on what you're seeing. And based on further just based on our conversations with KOLs, they indicate to us that like events in F4 tend to be almost more asymptotic in the sense that they accumulate much, much more rapidly and barely at all in the first part of the trial versus more sort of linear cardiac outcome study event accumulation. Can you comment on what the natural history tells you on that event accumulation curve and how that contributes to how you're approaching giving us additional clarity and narrowing of data timing guidance?
William Sibold
executiveGreat. Thanks, Ritu. I'll pass that over to Dave.
David Soergel
executiveYes. Thanks, Ritu. I think the first thing to comment on is we haven't actually confirmed the target number of events. So what we've said generally is there's a publication by Harrison that's a few years old that was sort of evaluating an earlier version of the protocol. And we've heard other numbers out there. What we said in general is that most of these numbers are in the ballpark, but we haven't confirmed the actual number. I think to your point about accumulation of events, look, I mean we're pioneering in this space. This -- as we've said many times before, this is really the first well-controlled F4c outcomes trial with a therapeutic agent. So what we -- we've heard the same thing from KOLs that the possibility is that events accelerate over time as patients sort of age through the F4c pathophysiology and the patent development, for example. I think the good news is, like I said, we're seeing events accrue. They're in line with our projected completion date in 2027. So when we can be more precise, we'll provide more precision. But I think what you're highlighting is one of the questions that's out there, right? So it's what -- how does the placebo sort of evolve over time within a controlled trial.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Andy Chen of Wolfe Research.
Andy Chen
analystSo we noticed that you provided a time line guidance on the oral GLP-1 and DGAT-2. Just curious if -- can you maybe tell us a bit more about the Arrowhead asset when it's Phase II going to begin. And then with the oral GLP-1, the SAD has initiated. Is it reasonable to maybe predict that maybe we're going to get data next year?
William Sibold
executiveGreat. Thanks, Andy. Dave?
David Soergel
executiveYes. So well, first of all, thanks for the question, Andy, on the pipeline. I love it. It's one of the main reasons why I came to Madrigal, sort of the opportunity to build a pipeline in a space where there's so much potential and so much need. And what I love about our pipeline is that we have a diversity of mechanisms and yet all the mechanisms we know a lot about already, right? So there's a lot of data on GLP-1, there's a lot of data on DGAT, there's a lot of data on PNPLA3. So specifically with respect to the programs, all of these programs have been chosen because there's a strong scientific rationale for complementarity with thyroid hormone receptor beta agonism with resmetirom. So specifically for the oral GLP-1, as you recall, we're developing the oral GLP-1 ultimately in combination with resmetirom to dial in a little bit of weight loss to potentiate resmetirom's efficacy. So as you pointed out, we started our SAD last month. And we'll be running the SAD in the math sort of through this year is our plan. And the data from that trial will then inform the Phase II study, which after we talk to health authorities would start in 2027. So timing -- with respect to timing, we haven't given a specific date to expect Phase 1, but that study will sort of proceed through this year. Similar story with DGAT. We've talked about running a pretty straightforward drug-drug interaction study later this year with resmetirom and Ervogastat. Again, we know a lot about Ervogastat, because Pfizer took the compound through Phase I. So we know it provides a lot of PDFF reduction in patients with NASH. And that PDFF reduction could also potentiate resmetirom's efficacy. So once we finish that drug-drug interaction study, again, the health authorities, talk about our Phase I plan and estimate to start that in 2027. Same story with PNPLA3. So that siRNA program that we licensed from Arrowhead, we start with some very good Phase I data where we have a good understanding of dose range with the molecule as a monotherapy. Again, we have to go to health authorities talk about the combination program and again, estimating a start in 2027. We'll provide more of an update on the specific plans in Phase II as we get closer to the initiation. But right now, just based on where the programs are in their life cycle, we'd expect them to start Phase II in '27.
William Sibold
executiveYes. And maybe just a point on the pipeline, right? We've broadened these assets to be used in combination with [ resmetirom ]. As Dave pointed out in the presentation, as I said, Rezdiffra is the foundational therapy. You see it working across various groups within MASH consistently. So our objective is to find even more efficacy, either in a suburb or in the total MASH population. And you think about that in comparison to the rest of the industry or those that are participating in MASH. They have single assets that they're hoping still to read out maybe positive data and maybe get approved and then be able to launch. They're going to be doing that, and we're going to be already moving forward with our combo strategy, which is going to raise the bar for the entire field. But there's only 1 company that has risk differ. I think that's a point that sometimes just doesn't get quite picked up or understood. We are starting from kind of that foundational therapy, which is the building block for MASH. Thanks for the question.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Yasmeen Rahimi of Piper Sandler.
Yasmeen Rahimi
analystCongrats on a great quarter and all the color. Maybe would love to get color as you guys have been, and I'm sure you're tracking sort of event rates in the real world and the F2/F3 population, which is the indication. But maybe to the extent that you're seeing, if there is any off-label use in F4s, any observations that being made there, whether it's consistent with the MAESTRO data, which you reminded us of earlier today. Just would love to get sort of real-world experience, and I know it's limited and it's probably occurring at a less extent, but I appreciate any color around that. And thank you, it seems like probably if you could quantify like your confidence that the data is in 2027 and the likelihood that it could get pushed out into 2028. That could also be really helpful. Sorry for the very long-winded question.
William Sibold
executiveYes. Thanks for the question. I mean maybe just a comment on kind of the real world, what we're seeing in F2, F3. You never know what's going to happen in the real world, right? You have your clinical studies, they read out, they're well controlled. Everything is controlled for patients stay on drug and you do your readout and you create a bar chart and everyone starts comparing against departure. Then you get to the real world, and that's really what counts. How does the product perform. And what we're hearing overwhelmingly from patients and prescribers is that Rezdiffra is performing exceptionally well. I don't hear stories of Rezdiffra not working. Just -- and that's -- and I speak as you know, the hundreds of physicians, hundreds of prescribers. And I have not heard anyone say, well it isn't working. What I hear is that this is working better than I even thought it would. It is effective, well tolerated, safe, easy to use, supported by a great patient support program that we have here. So we really take care of patients, take care of prescribers. So early feedback, and we're seeing it also in real-world event as being reported, is product is performing really, really well. And that's exciting. You never know that. So as you think about -- as I said, you can compare products on a bar chart, but what really counts is when you move into the real world. And you didn't ask a question about sema, but sema, I think, is on kind of the opposite side of that. Welcome for a clinical trial, looks good in the clinical trial. In the real world, though, you have to stay on a drug, get to a high enough dose and be on it long enough for it to actually work. And I think that's a really, really great example. And I think that as we look into the future, profiles really matter, and we've got a great profile. I like to call it a holy grail profile. Having been in the industry for 35 years, this is what the industry has always wanted to have once a day until that works, right? So maybe that's the place just to give you some context on what we're hearing in the real world. Now regarding off-label use, but we've been crystal clear from day 1, do not use Rezdiffra in F4c patients until we have the trial complete, and we know that it works. And I think that is just the responsible thing to do. And also, look, it makes sense what you don't want to do is have a product used in an area where there could be any kind of adverse event that then carries back to your already indicated population. So I think there is some -- we can't quantify it and there isn't a lot of data to suggest what the experiences in the people. So maybe, Dave, can I turn it over to you?
David Soergel
executiveYes, just a quick add. I mean, you made a comment about the open-label experience. And so we didn't talk about it this time around, but we had in the past where the event rate in that 122 patient cohort over a 2-year period is quite low. It's a 2% to 3% annualized rate. So that's -- even though it's an open-label population, it's a well-controlled and well-characterized population with F4c that looks very much like the [indiscernible] outcomes, Phase III population. So that low event rate is some of the basis for our confidence that resmetirom is -- could be effective as well. I think with respect to timing, as we said, when we have more precision on the estimate, we'll provide you with an update at this point, we're still projecting into 2027.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Akash Tewari of Jefferies.
Unknown Analyst
analystThis is Manoj on for Akash. Just one on the F4c outcomes trial. So given the main baseline platelet count in open level was around 125,000 somewhat higher than the baseline of 150,000 in the F4c trial. Do you view the event rates observed in the oil as the realistic guide for what we should expect in the F4c? And also other blinded given rates in the outcomes trial is tracking in line with what we would expect from the [indiscernible], just a rough estimate on that point?
William Sibold
executiveDave, do you want to?
David Soergel
executiveYes, sure. Yes, I think with reference to the platelet count, I mean, there's going to be some variability, as you know, in the measure of platelets. So in general, we enriched both populations by having a very low exclusion criteria for platelet counts, so greater than 70,000 in the study. And the distribution as we've talked about patients with CSPH, is pretty similar when you look at the open-label population compared to the MAESTRO outcomes Phase III study. So if you recall, anticipate NASH scoring and the Vino criteria are the combination of liver [indiscernible] measurements by VCT and platelet count. So when you combine the two, you got a risk of CSPH. So I think the fact that we were -- we sort of pushed the population towards the CSPH, higher CSPH risk is one of the reasons why we're seeing events and maybe in other programs at other sponsor companies are maybe not seeing as robust accrual of events. We think we've enriched this trial in a particularly effective way, both in terms of CSPH, and using other markers like MRE. So I think that's the key one. Your second question was?
Unknown Analyst
analystWhether the [indiscernible] in line with expectation?
David Soergel
executiveYes. So as we said, I mean, the events are tracking in a way that would estimated delivery of the data in 2027. And when we're able to provide more precision on that estimate, we'll give you an update. But right now, 2027.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Ash Verma of UBS.
Ashwani Verma
analystYes, I got 2 on F4c also. So just maybe can you talk about like what type of relative risk reduction on the composite wood position is Rezdiffra, the drug that can have broad adoption based on the feedback that you're getting from physicians are out first 50% type outcome? Or can we get even a broad adoption with a lower dis-reductions, that's first. And then secondly, a lot of discussion on just the event rates here. Maybe just like if you can help us understand on the placebo events in this study, like why would this be any different in this study versus the prior 5% to 10% annualized event rate that you've seen? And I believe your stat plan assumes a annualized 10%, but if it's more like a 5%, is it still a 2027 readout?
William Sibold
executiveDave?
David Soergel
executiveYes. Well, I mean, I think, look, first of all, what's a clinically relevant reduction in hazard in F4c. The reality is, I think anything that's statistically significant and yields an approval would be clinically wrong. I mean this is a disease where there is no treatment and these patients were really on the cusp of end-stage liver disease and either death or a transplant. So I think one of the really important things is getting a medicine to these patients and any risk reduction is going to be a big change in the field for patients. With respect to the placebo rate, I mean, we've sort of guided to the 5% to 10% range based on the natural history. As you pointed out, we -- in the earlier Harrison paper, which was, again, was done sort of drafted using an earlier version of the protocol, the estimate of the placebo rate was about 10%. The 10% placebo rate, as you know, determined sort of the duration of the trial. It doesn't really affect trial powering. So the hazard reduction is the key thing that determines trial powering. And those 2 things together, the placebo rate and the drug effect determine the blinded event rate. So as we've said, the blinded event rate is tracking in line with delivery in '27. And we have more data, and we'll provide you more precision on that estimate.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Michael DiFiore of Evercore ISI.
Michael DiFiore
analystTwo for me. The first, regarding Rezdiffra patient growth and underlying demand. Can you separate 2Q patient growth into new starts versus reactivations following first quarter insurance disruptions versus discontinuations? And my second question is, you've already reached over 10,000 prescribers that have indicated that -- and have indicated that the commercial focus is increasingly shifting towards prescription depth. My question is what percent of 2Q new prescriptions came from existing prescribers versus first-time riders? And how is that mix changing?
William Sibold
executiveMike, thanks for the question. Maybe let me start a little with that. You mentioned the 10,000 prescribers. That has been another really, really significant milestone to crossing the launch. I mean my experience, you exceed 1,000 and you've really got your base of prescribers that can drive your future into, in this case, we might have blockbuster. And that's something which hasn't set so way and reported on that number in a while, but it continues to grow. We have new prescribers all the time. When you think about that mix, you're always going to have more of your scripts on a monthly basis coming from the existing pool of prescribers. So think about it, if you add 10 prescribers on the 10,000 disproportionately, there's so many -- no that's not the right number, adding 10. We're adding more than that. I can assure you. So it's always going to be weighted towards the current prescribers. And that's why depth becomes much more important than breadth once you cross that 10,000 threshold. And we're continuing to see across all of the prescribers just increased depth of prescriptions. And why is that? Well, because they're having good results. Why is that, because they're diagnosing more patients, and they're learning the product. They're setting up -- they're wiring their system. They're setting up their pathways. They're making sure they have access to or have their own IT. So that is what takes time in the launch. And that's why products typically don't go from 0 to 100. It takes kind of years to get to full penetration because people just get more comfortable and work down through their deck of patients, if you will. And we're seeing exactly that. And we're tracking exactly like we had hoped and like what we had thought we would. Now so how does that translate, now back to your question about monthly [indiscernible] so you said the mix. We haven't reported that on the mix of prescribers and so forth. If you think about pets and GIs are the predominant writers, GI's out number has just in the country by about [indiscernible]. So that's where the volume is going to be because they just have more patients and more prescribers, okay? Now what about patient adds. That net number then we show, we don't break it out into what's coming in the top of the funnel, what's going at the bottom of the funnel and -- and as you can see, that's steadily adding when you look back over the quarters, that's kind of our definition of steadily adding. And most importantly, we expect to continue to do so going forward. Now we're going to do everything we can to accelerate adding to the top and decelerate leaving from the bottom. That's what we do. That's what -- that continues to make it a great launch. So that's what I'll leave it now, Mike, we'll update in the future. But we are in really, really great shape on kind of all key metrics and really the one at the end of the day that counts as patients. And that's the one that I think that is [indiscernible] 50,000 milestone. That is a big number. I just -- and that's why we kind of pulled that 1 ahead. We didn't want to wait another quarter and say, and we know everyone will be doing well, what day of the month was that it happened. Let me assure you, the 50,000 is consistent with the steadily adding patients. It's a big number that the world should know about.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Jay Olson of Oppenheimer.
Jay Olson
analystCongrats on all the progress and thank you for providing this update. Since you have a number of new patents and multiple levers available to drive residue for sales growth, including potential combinations. How are you thinking about the peak sales magnitude and time line to achieve peak sales? And what's your vision of how the MASH market dynamics may evolve in the next 10 years in terms of patient segmentation and which genotypes or phenotypes do you suspect might be appropriate to target for a more personalized approach to treating MASH with precision medicine?
William Sibold
executiveThanks for the question. Let me start with kind of the market dynamics because I think these are -- this is something which is really so remarkable about MASH. I'll go back, first of all, to when we communicated what the approachable patient number in F2/F3 was at the end of -- that was the 315,000 and we did that same analysis at the end of '25, and that was 460,000. So almost 50% growth in patients. Now you would say, well, gee, how sustainable is that? Well, here's why it's really sustainable because is about 10% diagnosed today, the disease. And we have about 10% penetration. So we're about 1% into the journey. Now that is a setup where all the demographics, everything that we're looking at is driving towards MASH continuing to be a challenge, not just for the next 3, 5, 10 years, decades. So that's the backdrop that we're against. We've got -- we had almost 50% growth in 2 years. We expect double-digit growth for the foreseeable future. And you heard me say that Q3 is off to a strong start, but that we are expecting and seeing patient growth in the market in 2026, consistent with what we've communicated before. So that growth of the market is where the real opportunity lies. And as great as Rezdiffra is, as I said, in my opinion, holy grail profile. We're looking for even more efficacy in either the whole population or segments of the population. And a real specific [indiscernible] kind of the personalized medicine. This is where the PNPLA3 deal that we did with Arrowhead, we are so excited about. That is a very specific identifiable patient population that could benefit from having a not only a foundational therapy like Rezdiffra, where we work really well in that if you look at our presentation, but if you add to that this targeted siRNA, could we get more adequacy. So we look at -- there's going to be the segments that open up in time, partially driven by the data, partially driven by just natural market evolution. So that's why we're not only optimistic about Rezdiffra's, but whole franchise and having a solution for patients that cover really the gamut of MASH. We haven't commented on peak and we're not, but you have heard us say that we think that Rezdiffra had made a lot of blockbuster potential, and that's even before we start to add these next-generation products that we're working on, which, again, I'll remind you, as we have combo products, others will be still fighting for their first product in a pathway that we probably already got a compliment.
Operator
operatorOur next question comes from the line of Kripa Devarakonda of Truist Securities.
Srikripa Devarakonda
analystCongratulations on the quarter. I wanted to ask about the competitive landscape. As we get closer to competitor Phase III data in 4Q of this year, I was wondering if you can comment on how you view any potential impact on Rezdiffra's trial were to be successful and MASH patients get another oral option. I think it also takes back to the prior question regarding fragmentation because some of our KOL checks, have suggested that this drug would target specific subsegments or drugs in gender could target different subsegment. So I would love to hear your comments on that. And also, I wanted to just ask about also the recent patents issued for [indiscernible]. You already had a previously issued patent extending resmetirom to 2045. Can you just talk about the impact of the recently issued ones and how that strengthens the profile of the drug?
William Sibold
executiveLook, thank you very much for the question. There's a lot there. Maybe just starting with IP. Last year, we secured our -- last July, actually, we secured our pivotal F2/F3 patent, which is the waste threshold dosing, which gives us out to 2045. And the reason that patent was so important, it allows us to think about our pipeline and portfolio a little differently. We have a lot of time with Rezdiffra, so we can place a bet on earlier-stage programs or later-stage progress. Like we're not -- we don't have a short-term problem. So that's really good. The patents that we announced just, I guess, this month was that we secured [indiscernible] patents, and those cover important safety information in our label. So generics have to include that type of language in their label, so them trying to do a single label really makes it challenging for them. And these are both [indiscernible] book-listed patents. So that's just further reinforcing the 2045 patent that we have. We now have a new F4c patent, and I'm really excited about this because this remember, 45 came out of the approved label. And we don't have a label yet in that F4c, but we've already secured a used patent, which gets us into the [ 40s ] as well. And that's before a label where there's potentially other opportunities to generate a peak. So I feel like we've said all along that we -- that IP is really important. And we've made it a focus, and I think we've made really, really significant progress with our IT strategy. Now I think you're probably referring to the [indiscernible], that's what it was, right? And look, what we've always said in the [indiscernible] is going to be a big market and support multiple products. And the new entrants, we think, help us if there are new entrants. You start to have a successful product, you have to get it approved and all those minor details build a big commercial organization launch. But if you get to market on day eventually, it is -- can really help to drive growth. And I think we've seen that with [indiscernible]. I think there being here has really helped us. You heard me say a little bit earlier, though. This isn't about comparing bar graphs anymore. It's really both the real world. We're over 2 years on the market, over 50,000 patients. We have high satisfaction by prescribers and patients, and it's just continuing to press. So against that backdrop, it's kind of hard to see where lanifibranor will fit. It comes down to profiles, if you heard me say it many times, and we've got a great profile. Lanifibranor, 1,200-milligram pill, it's a PPAR associated with weight gain and edema. Now this is at a time when the world is obsessed with weight loss. So we don't see weight gain as a real benefit, particularly in NASH. And we had some market research with prescribers and 80% of prescribers said they wouldn't use lanifibranor because of the weight gain. So if they get here, look, MASH is a big market. We've got lots of room for more products. That's why we're building our pipeline. We think it overall helps. But they got a long way to go, and we wish them luck. I think that's really great.
Tina Ventura
executiveGreat. Thanks. And actually, we're past the top of the hour, Cory. So I think we'll conclude today's call. And so thank you all for your time and interest. This now concludes our call. A replay of the webcast will be available on our website in approximately 2 hours. Thanks for joining us.
Operator
operatorThank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. You may now disconnect. Have a wonderful day.
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