Man Industries (India) Limited (513269) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 16, 2024

BSE Limited IN Industrials Construction and Engineering special 8 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#1

But it's time to switch focus -- focusing on 1 or 2 stocks companies, which we always do on this show. Let me start off by introducing Man Industries. Company is in focus INR 400 crore order win. We have the management, Ramesh Chandra Mansukhani, who's the Chairman of Man Industries with us to talk to us about that.

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#2

When the stock is up and away in trade, if we can have the graph of the stock as well, and that will indicate that the stock is up and away. Sir, it's a large order. Firstly, welcome to NDTV Profit. Good morning. So I think we are on a patchy line there. But there you go, the stock of Man Industries up 6% on the back of that order win. In terms of the Q2 numbers, you saw a good solid set come in. Of course, now we're at the cusp of Q3, but that's probably just to give you a perspective on where we were at the end of Q2, so that one understands as to how large the order is. Q2 in terms of revenue, the company did around INR 1,037-odd crores of revenue. So the INR 400 crore order win is quite large. Also, it has an order book of INR 1,300 crores, and we have Ramesh Chandra Mansukhani back with us. Sir, talk to us about this INR 400 crore order. It's a largest order when I'm looking at the way the company is performing and playing out, but talk to us more about this. The order pipeline currently is roughly INR 1,300 crores. You have 6-odd months to execute these is what you've indicated. What's the traction like in the market? Are we seeing or are we expected to see bigger and better order wins coming through both in FY '24 for whatever is left as well as in the first half of FY '25, what's the visibility like?

Ramesh Mansukhani

executive
#3

Yes. Yes. Good morning, Hersh. Thank you. The order book is comfortable. This INR 400 crores historically is not a very big order in our company. But this is a good order we can say, and the bid whatever we participated this time worldwide is approximately INR 14,000 to INR 15,000 crores. So this is an ongoing process. We have to declare this thing because we got the mix of the order, not a single order, but good order mix. It will be completed in 6 months, and we are awaiting some other news also in coming times.

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#4

Right, sir. Sir, when I'm looking at your numbers, you clocked around INR 2,200-odd crore of revenue in the last year FY '23. You have guided for a roughly INR 3,000 kind of -- INR 3,000 crores kind of a number in FY '24. How confident are you of achieving that? That's my first point. Second point, as you start executing, would you want to build up a larger order book than the INR 1,300-odd crores of order book that you already have?

Ramesh Mansukhani

executive
#5

Yes, to achieve whatever target we kept last year, to achieving we are close, that we will achieve it. We are expecting to achieve it. And the futuristic, right now, it is not good to announce anything because our results only next week. So that's why we are carefully in the guidance, but company order book is comfortable, bid is comfortable, growth moment will continue, the new businesses, which are coming, which will continue growth bolstered. That's why I can say overall, the things are very positive as regard to Man Industries.

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#6

Understood. Sir, when it comes to margins, right, as you continue to grow your order book and overall, we are seeing good traction in the infra space. So as you continue to grow your order book, how are margins really expected to trend? Because you are currently at higher single digits, would one expect you to go into double digits in the current financial year? Would you probably hope to do that in FY '25? Where should that trend?

Ramesh Mansukhani

executive
#7

Our always the objective and our aim to achieve the better EBITDA, although we -- last year, we said it'd to be around 10%, but the mix up because some products, and we are to the product mix basis. But our endeavor always to go the better margin business. We are expecting '24, '25 should be much better because our lot of investment whatever we did, their result is yet to come, and their result will come in '24, '25, then some high API-grade business, high coating value addition items and some other products also coming in the company. So I hope and expect it will improve in coming times. So our objective is to get the more rewards to our shareholders.

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#8

Right. And just for the benefit of our viewers, if you could try and break down, which of your products have a higher margin or are margin accretive for you going into FY '25? And what is the kind of opportunity in that particular set of products out of the INR 15,000 crore which you highlighted in terms of the size of outstanding bids that the company could continue to bid for.

Ramesh Mansukhani

executive
#9

Yes. Hersh, actually, the oil and gas sector, hydrocarbon, some export, where we got some breakthrough, we are the approved vendor. That is our aim. The hydrocarbon sector having a little bit better margin. The water business in India, domestic market having a little bit low EBITDA. But that's why our 70%, 80% is the hydrocarbon sector; 20%, 30% is the domestic water pipelines; and hydrocarbon sector also makes up export as well as still domestic. So we're seeing the good growth after the election also, but as well as we are not dependent on only one country. We have a worldwide big position. That's why we keep insulated our company, whatever position worldwide is going on in future.

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#10

Sure. And out of the INR 15,000 crores, what would -- what part would comprise more of or rather margin accretive business? And how much out of this INR 15,000 crores, would you hope to win? There may be some internal targets that you may have set, but a broad level number on how much would you hope to win in terms of the orders that you are bidding for?

Ramesh Mansukhani

executive
#11

Yes. Very difficult question, but we endeavor to get more business. Our capacity utilization should be much more better in coming time as well as the most important because our -- we put a lot of CapEx last year, and there is no loan in the company actually. So almost debt is 0.1% in the company, net debt to equity ratio. So we are comfortable. But our objective to do much better next year, this year, very closing. We have a proper order book position to complete this year comfortably. And then as well as to go ahead for the '24, '25 with a bright future and bright profit margin.

Hersh Sayta

attendee
#12

Sure. Thank you so much, Mr. Mansukhani for breaking that down for us. We'll let you go on that note. Also, it's time we slip into a very short break, just quickly marking out the stock price of Man Industries, if we may, while on the way out.

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