Martin Marietta Materials, Inc. (MLM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 1, 2023

New York Stock Exchange US Materials Construction Materials earnings 56 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, and welcome to Martin Marietta's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. I will now turn the call over to your host, Ms. Jacklyn Rooker, Martin Marietta's, Director of Investor Relations. Jacklyn, you may begin.

Jacklyn Rooker

executive
#2

Thank you. It's my pleasure to welcome you to our Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. Joining me today are Ward Nye, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Jim Nickolas, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's discussion may include forward-looking statements as defined by United States securities laws in connection with future events, future operating results or financial performance. Like other businesses, Martin Marietta is subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. We undertake no obligation, except as legally required to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether resulting from new information, future developments or otherwise. Please refer to the legal disclaimers contained in today's earnings release and other public filings, which are available on both our own and the Securities and Exchange Commission's website. We have made available during this webcast and on the Investors section of our website, supplemental information that summarizes our financial results and trends. As a reminder, all financial and operating results discussed today are for continuing operations. In addition, non-GAAP measures are defined and reconciled to the most directly comparable GAAP measure in the appendix to the supplemental information as well as our filings with the SEC and are also available on our website. Ward and I will begin today's earnings call with a discussion of our operating performance and the outlook for the remainder of 2023. Jim Nickolas will then review our financial results and capital allocation after which Ward will conclude with end market trends and our preliminary view for 2024. A question-and-answer session will follow. Please limit your Q&A participation to one question. I will now turn the call over to Ward.

C. Nye

executive
#3

Thank you, Jacklyn. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining today's teleconference. Martin Marietta once again delivered record results across nearly every financial and operational measure extending our long track record of industry-leading performance and responsible, profitable growth. Thanks to the dedication of our colleagues across the enterprise, we achieved accompanying milestone by exceeding $2 billion in trailing 12 months adjusted EBITDA for the first time. Our exceptional third quarter is highlighted by a 42% improvement in aggregates gross profit per ton despite lower shipments, further validating the benefits of our value-over-volume commercial strategy and our commitment to operating with excellence while meeting and exceeding our customers' needs. Importantly, while our work in continuous safety improvement is never done, I'm proud to report the company concluded our safest third quarter on record, with total and lost time incident rates surpassing world-class levels. Another third quarter event, it's notable that just yesterday on October 31, we finalized the sale of our Tehachapi California cement plant substantially completing the planned asset sales from the 2021 Lehigh Hanson West acquisition. Consistent with our SOAR 2025 initiatives, this divestiture of a nonstrategic asset provides us with additional balance sheet flexibility to advance our well-articulated path of quality aggregates-led growth. As detailed in today's earnings release, we raised our full year 2023 adjusted EBITDA guidance to a range of $2.05 billion to $2.15 billion, as pricing momentum will more than offset lower shipments and recently increased energy and related costs. Turning now to Martin Marietta's third quarter financial performance. We established all-time quarterly records across a number of areas, including consolidated total revenues of $2 billion, a 10.1% increase. Consolidated gross profit of $676 million, a 38.6% increase. Earnings per diluted share from continuing operations of $6.94 of 48.6% increase. Adjusted EBITDA of $705.2 million, a 32.3% increase and aggregates gross profit per ton of $7.89 of 42.4% increase. These results reinforce the durability of our aggregates-led business which is strategically situated in well-curated geographies. These record results also reflect our team's focus on what we can control despite heightened geopolitical tensions and persistent macroeconomic headwinds, including growth restrictive monetary policy and continued inflation. Shifting now to our third quarter shipment and pricing results. Aggregate shipments declined 7.3%. Our value-over-volume strategy is clearly an unapologetic component of that result as a softening demand in certain Midwest and Southwest markets, which was partially offset by continued strength in key Southeast markets. Aggregates pricing fundamentals remain very attractive with pricing increasing 20% or 17.2% on a mix-adjusted basis as we continue to expect fair value for our depleting resources. Near sold-out Texas cement conditions, particularly in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex continue to drive strong product demand in a favorable commercial environment. Third quarter cement shipments of 1.1 million tons were flat to last year's comparable period and pricing grew 18.9% as we continue to largely sell as much as we can produce. We expect favorable Texas Cement pricing dynamics will continue and accordingly announced a $15 per ton price increase effective January 1. Turning to our targeted downstream businesses. Ready-mixed concrete shipments increased 3.6%, while pricing improved to solid 20.9%. Asphalt shipments increased 5.7% and pricing increased 6.7%. Before providing our outlook for the remainder of 2023 and a preliminary view of 2024, I'll turn the call over to Jim to conclude our third quarter discussion with a review of the company's financial results. Jim?

James Nickolas

executive
#4

Thank you, Ward, and good morning, everyone. The Building Materials business posted record quarterly revenue of $1.92 billion, a 10.5% increase over last year's third quarter and record quarterly gross profit of $649.5 million, a year-over-year increase of 38.4%. Aggregates gross profit improved to 32.1% relative to the prior year period to a record $440.6 million as pricing growth more than offset lower shipments and higher production costs, underscoring the strength and effectiveness of our value-over-volume commercial strategy as a distinguishing hallmark to grow profitability through economic cycles. The business also achieved in aggregates gross profit margin of 36.2%, setting a new all-time profitability record despite the shipment decline. Our Texas Cement business also extended its track record of outstanding performance. Revenues increased 18.3% to $199.1 million, while gross profit increased 61.5% to $108.7 million. Pricing growth and lower energy costs more than offset higher raw materials and maintenance costs. Domestic production capacity constraints and robust demand continued to drive extremely tight supply, particularly in North Texas. As a reminder, Martin Marietta has taken 2 notable steps to increase our Texas Cement production capacity to capitalize on the supply-demand dynamics. First, we've wholly converted our construction cement customers from type 1, type 2 cement to less carbon-intensive Portland-limestone cement, also known as Type 1L at both our Midlothian and Hunter, Texas plants. This conversion not only reduces our carbon footprint but also expanded our production capacity by approximately 10%. Second, our Midlothian, Texas plant is installing a new finish mill providing 450,000 tons of incremental high-margin annual production capacity. This project should be fully operational in the third quarter of 2024. As previously discussed, we began utilizing the new silos to low customer trucks in July. In addition to increasing cement storage capacity by over 60%, these silos have considerably enhanced the customer experience by reducing load-out cycle times and are saving our customers up to an hour at peak shipping times each day. Our concrete revenues increased 25.3% to $285.2 million and gross profit increased 81.8% to $34.1 million, driven primarily by steady volume growth, pricing gains and mega project contributions, which more than offset higher upstream raw material and delivery costs. Our asphalt and paying revenues increased 14.6% to $359.9 million, and gross profit increased 33% to $66.1 million, reflecting higher selling prices and lower bitumen costs. Magnesia Specialties revenues totaled $75.5 million in the third quarter, in line with the prior period, and gross profit increased 3.6% to $21.4 million, softening demand in certain Magnesia end markets including TPO roofing and metal lining was more than offset by commercial and operational excellence initiatives and energy tailwinds. We expect demand to soften due to labor unrest in the automotive sector and magnesia end markets remaining weak in the fourth quarter, and as such, have reduced our Magnesia Specialties full year gross profit guidance. During the quarter, our Board of Directors approved a 12% increase to our quarterly cash dividend paid in September, demonstrating its confidence in the durability and sustainability of our company's future growth and free cash flow generation. Our annualized cash dividend rate is now $2.96. Since our repurchase authorization announcement in February 2015, we have returned a total of $2.6 billion to shareholders through a combination of meaningful and sustainable dividends as well as share repurchases. Our net debt-to-EBITDA ratio was 1.8x as of September 30, representing balance sheet strength and flexibility to responsibly grow through quality acquisitions and prudent capital investments while returning capital to Martin Marietta to shareholders. To conclude my prepared remarks, I want to emphasize that the record-breaking financial performance of this quarter and year-to-date has demonstrated a disciplined execution of our value-over-volume commercial strategy yields higher margins, higher profits and higher cash flow without the benefit of growing volumes. With that, I'll turn the call back to Ward.

C. Nye

executive
#5

Thanks, Jim. Looking ahead to the remainder of the year and into 2024, we remain confident Martin Marietta is well positioned to capitalize on attractive market fundamentals across our coast-to-coast footprint specifically, infrastructure demand from increased federal and state level investments and heavy industrial projects of scale should counterbalance headwinds in the light nonresidential and historically underbuilt residential sectors, which are more sensitive to tightening credit conditions and higher for longer interest rate expectations. In the third quarter, infrastructure accounted for 39% of total shipments, predictably building to a higher and more normalized portion of our overall business. The value of state and local government highway, bridge and tunnel contract awards a leading indicator for our future product demand is meaningfully higher year-over-year. These infrastructure contract awards grew 18% to a record $114 billion for the 12-month period ending September 30, 2023. Collectively, we anticipate that the historic increase in public sector investment from the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act or IIJA, record state departments of transportation budgets and voter-approved state and local transportation ballot initiatives will provide sustained multiyear demand to this aggregates intensive often countercyclical end market. Aggregate shipments to the non-residential market accounted for 33% of our third quarter shipments. Heavy side energy and manufacturing projects of scale continue to drive demand in this segment as warehouse and data center construction continues to moderate from the post-COVID period. Construction spending for manufacturing in the United States continues to trend favorably with the August season adjusted annual rate of spending for 2023 at $198 billion, at 66% increase from the August 2022 value of $120 billion. The Inflation Reduction Act and CHIPS act together with significant private investments provide funding certainty for these large-scale manufacturing and energy projects that we believe will be disproportionately and positively impactful in Martin Marietta markets. Importantly, we have both the ability and capacity to supply these large projects and with the successful execution of our commercial and operational excellence strategies will do so in a manner that is margin accretive. Moving to white non-residential, while third quarter shipments remained resilient, we expect the recent interest rate acceleration together with tighter commercial lending conditions may impact future demand. That said, the anticipated softness in this segment should be partially offset by the extended cycle and strength of the more aggregates intensive heavy nonresidential sector. Softening in the residential end market, which accounted for 23% of aggregate shipments this quarter, is expected to continue driven by current mortgage rates, which are nearing 23-year highs at 8%. While single-family housing starts, a leading indicator of aggregates demand signaled a near-term bottom and inflection point over the summer, the current higher rates are exacerbating affordability challenges and driving our revised expectations of soft demand in this end market. Nonetheless, we fully expect this current single-family housing slowdown will reverse once home prices and borrowing rates find equilibrium as demand far exceeds supply across key Martin Marietta markets. The result of significant underbuilding over the last decade and homeowners' reluctance to abandon low-rate mortgages. As we look to 2024, our preliminary view anticipates aggregate shipments will be effectively flat as increased infrastructure investment, coupled with robust activity from heavy nonresidential projects of scale should help balance expected softness in interest rate sensitive, private construction end markets. We remain confident that favorable commercial dynamics underpinned by our value-over-volume pricing strategy will be supported by 2023 exit rates as well as the realization of our previously announced January 1, 2024, price increases. Together, we expect this will drive low double-digit growth in aggregates pricing and another year of profitable growth in 2024. To conclude, our team achieved impressive results in nearly every aspect of our business against a challenging macroeconomic and geopolitical backdrop. One of Martin Marietta enduring qualities is our proven ability to adapt quickly and respond effectively and durably to changing circumstances. Accordingly, we are extremely proud of our company's exceptional safety, operational and financial performance through the first 9 months of 2023. Moreover, our record-setting third quarter performance, together with our fourth quarter expectations, reinforce our confidence that we will deliver our full year adjusted EBITDA guidance midpoint of $2.1 billion, an organic improvement of $500 million or 31% over 2022. Through the disciplined execution of our strategic plan, we intend to continue driving responsible and profitable growth in 2023 and into the future. The operator will now provide the required instructions, we will turn our attention to addressing your questions.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Kathryn Thompson with Thompson Research Group.

Kathryn Thompson

analyst
#7

Just following up on the value over volume is clearly is showing through with the pricing performance this quarter and throughout the year. But it can have an impact on relative market share because it's principally you're willing to give up some volume for secure pricing. So could you discuss how it's working, it speaks to what it means to relative market share and how it affects your business, not just only now but a bigger picture over the next several years?

C. Nye

executive
#8

You bet. Kathryn, thanks for the question. So several things. Can it affect degrees of tonnage going at the gate? Yes, it can. So if we're looking at the tonnage down this quarter versus the prior year quarter, probably a little bit less than half of that was due to value over volume. And by the way, we're perfectly okay with that. We've got depleting reserves. That said, on average, we've got 70 years of reserves at current extraction rate. So we've got a long-lived business. But we know the reserves are worth more in the ground tomorrow than they are today. And if we're looking at really where we're seeding some share on, it tends to be lower-margin products. In other words, things like base and fines. So part of what we're trying to do is, we're talking with our customers to make sure that they understand really twice a year is something that we're looking at on revisiting our pricing. The other thing that's important to keep in mind relative to aggregates, and this is different from some other functions as well. It doesn't have to be a 24/7 business. In fact, in most of our locations, it's not and where you've got 24/7 businesses, incremental volume can give a high degree of operating leverage. That's just not something with which we're encumbered in our aggregates. So we shut down each evening and open up each morning, and that gives us an enormous amount of flexibility. And then probably most importantly, Kathryn, when the volume does come back, and by the way, it typically does. It typically comes back at higher pricing. So you can see the math. I mean the value-over-volume strategy works, it protects our reserves. It protects the longevity of our business. And it's something that we've been very clear with our team is important to us and part of what you can see in the numbers is that it's coming through. So I hope that's responsive, Kathryn. Thank you for the question.

Kathryn Thompson

analyst
#9

Yes. And just one quick follow-up with the sale of the California Cement asset, do you speak to the general state of your Texas Cement operations, are inventories relative to demand? Have you seen any changes just to kind of that business as you plan for next year.

C. Nye

executive
#10

Thanks for the question. As you know, when we went into cement in Texas, we said we view that as a strategic cement business. And in my prepared comments I said we sold a non-strategic asset in California. And we said strategic cement for us meant where we're an aggregates leader where the market is naturally vertically integrated, where we have a downstream business taking a significant portion of it in Texas, it's about 30%, and where it cannot be meaningfully interdicted by water. Our Texas Cement business is very solid. And part of the reason it's solid is it's Dallas-Fort Worth and it's in San Antonio. So it removed from the vicissitudes of imports largely. So what we're seeing in that marketplace and what you saw in the quarter is volumes were largely flat because we're broadly sold out. And we continue to largely sell what we're producing. And part of what we're anticipating and part of what we've announced is a $15 a ton price increase for cement effective January 1. So I think that -- those data points give you a good snapshot of where Texas Cement is today.

Operator

operator
#11

Your next question comes from Trey Grooms with Stephens.

Trey Grooms

analyst
#12

So maybe sticking to the pricing theme here, particularly in aggregates. If you could maybe talk through your initial 2024 aggregates pricing outlook of low double digits growth that you've laid out and maybe unpack how much you have coming from carryover '23 midyear increases and how you're setting the stage for low double digits price improvement in '24?

C. Nye

executive
#13

Happy to Trey. Thanks for that. So we're thinking about the '24 guide similar to the way that we did the '23 guide. What I mean by that is the guide that we've given, I think this is more to stayed out immediately, does not include any midyears and again, just as we saw in '23, we think we're going to have midyears in '24. But right now, the guide that we've given does not assume that. So I think that's important. Secondly, as I indicated in the previous question, we think midyears are becoming more and more the norm with our customers, and we think the expectations have been set. The customer letters that have gone out indicate that pricing is largely effective from January 1 to June 30. So in the correspondence that has already gone people know that we're going to protect them through midyear. Now in fairness, there's a footnote to that. And the notable exception is California, where our pricing letters already include announced midyear so that our customers can plan for that in that marketplace. We've long talked about what we inherited when we bought the business in California, and we're trying to address that. Just to be clear, California totaled 2024 increases. Right now looked like that's going to be about $4 a ton across all products and markets as we continue to implement that strategy, in particular, in what's a relatively new marketplace for Martin Marietta. Now to your point, if we're thinking about the way carryovers are going to work, carryovers next year are probably going to be in the low single digits, so a little bit lower than they were this year. But again, we've got a lot of confidence in what we think we will come out with on January 1. And then again, if we have something that even begins to replicate what we saw in midyear next year, and frankly, there's probably some upside to that, Trey. So I think that gives you a good build on the way that we see that working in 2024 based off exit rates in 2023.

Operator

operator
#14

Your next question comes from Stanley Elliott with Stifel.

Stanley Elliott

analyst
#15

Congratulations. Can you guys talk about what you guys are seeing on the M&A front? I mean, historically, you've done a nice job strategically expanding the footprint. Leverage the [ 1.8x ] free cash flow cement sale is even better by year-end. What is the M&A market looking like these days?

C. Nye

executive
#16

Stanley, thanks for the question and for the comments on the quarter. The M&A market is actually looking increasingly attractive. The level of dialogue has ramped up in the second half of this year. From my perspective, that wasn't a tremendous surprise. As you know, 2021 was a big year for M&A for us. And part of what we've been doing since then is a lot of what you saw in today's announcement relative to the sale of Tehachapi, making sure we're getting our pricing right in different markets, making sure we're getting our hands around the operations. And now as we sit here today, several things are apparent. Number one, we're looking at a debt-to-EBITDA ratio of 1.8x. So that's below our targeted range. Two, you can see from the financials, what the cash flow in this organization looks like that can clearly help fuel and will fuel some aggregates led -- frankly, from our perspective, pure aggregate transactions. And then two or three, when we had proceeds that have just come in from Tehachapi, it puts us in a very attractive place. Do I think we'll have anything to announce here in the rest of this year? Probably not. Do I hope that we'll have some things that we can announce early next year? I think that we will. So more to come on that, Stanley. But again, we like financially where we're sitting. We like strategically where we're sitting. We like what we believe or what we know we can do from a regulatory perspective because we think that's a differentiator right now. So we believe that we can continue to give you price. We believe we can continue to give you really good cost control. And we believe we can keep giving you good, solid, attractive M&A. And we think that's a hattrick that very few can offer today.

Operator

operator
#17

Your next question comes from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs.

Jerry Revich

analyst
#18

Just pulling together what you shared in your preliminary comments, double-digit pricing growth, flat volumes, embedding, call it, high single-digit COGS per unit growth. I mean that essentially gets you to roughly $200 million of aggregate profit growth '24 versus '23, which is, I think, probably consistent with the consensus growth expectations for total company EBITDA, '24 versus '23. So I know you're not providing your full '24 outlook here, but it does feel like you're giving us the pieces to get the consensus EBITDA numbers with probably higher profitability and lower volumes than what folks expected on a bottom-up basis. Is that fair? And any other puts and takes that you would add?

C. Nye

executive
#19

Yes, I think that's relatively fair. And if you think about it, Jerry, I think that's what we did in Q2, and I think that's what we've done in Q3. I mean I think part of what you're seeing is, the world can go through different degrees of economic turmoil, and this is a business that continues to be very steady, very durable in all forms of markets. So I don't disagree at all. I'll turn it over to Jim in just a moment so he can add if there are any particular things that he wants to make sure he calls out. But one of the things that I think is worth noting, Jerry, I mean did energy help us this quarter? Absolutely, it did. But I think part of what's so striking to me is even if we did not have the energy tailwind that we did this quarter, we would have set new records this quarter anyway. And I think it's so important because I know what you're looking for those puts and takes, I wanted to go ahead and address that one upfront because while in the quarter, that was powerful. It would have been a very powerful quarter even without that. Jim, anything you want to add?

James Nickolas

executive
#20

Yes. No, it's just that the cost inflation continues to moderate slightly, still elevated compared to historical levels. But again, as we've demonstrated this year, we expect it to happen next year, pricing growth exceeds cost inflation. So we do expect margins to expand next year.

Jerry Revich

analyst
#21

Super. And can I just follow-up the downstream businesses you folks are executing really well this year, how much of that has been because of a helpful move in diesel and liquid asphalt versus what's sustainable in the new portfolio, particularly on the ready-mix side post the divestitures?

C. Nye

executive
#22

Yes, Jerry, thanks for the question. I would say several things. One, if you think about our ready-mix business, it's almost uniquely in Texas and Arizona. And those are 2 very good markets. And one reason that they're good is, look, you're in New York, if you look at your window, you're going to see asphalt streets and when you get to the bridges, you'll have concrete bridges. If you're in Texas, you're writing on concrete roads and concrete bridges, and you're building things structurally with concrete as well. So those markets tend to be more durable from a supply perspective because again, you've got that really noncyclical or often countercyclical infrastructure market that will place some meaningfully in, in our ready-mix business. And clearly, ASP was up 20% in ready-mix. That helped a lot but frankly, volume was up very modestly. And again, Texas is 80% of our volume in ready-mix. Now alternatively, if you go to [ HMA ] give you a sense of if that's going to be full year probably about 9 million tons. So it's a fairly notable business. Now practically speaking, it's in 3 places. It's in Minnesota, it's up and down the Rocky Mountains and it's in California. And what we saw there was ASP was up 6.7% because liquid wasn't moving as much. But the fact was Q3 was an all-time record of almost 3.9 million tons for us in asphalt. And keep in mind, asphalt's going to be about 95% crushed down. So from our perspective, that's a very attractive business, particularly in Minnesota, where as you recall, Jerry, it's largely an FOB business. So it's truly a materials business for us there. And of that 9 million tons, Minnesota is going to be a little bit over 3 million of it. So at least those are the quick puts and takes that we've got on that. Jim, anything you want to add on that?

James Nickolas

executive
#23

Yes. I mean obviously, the bitumen pricing costs did help the asphalt and paving business improve margins. It wasn't wholly due to that, of course. But on the ready-mix side, I would say, was very, very little additive from the lower energy costs. So hopefully, that answers the question, too, just rounding out what Ward provided.

Operator

operator
#24

Your next question comes from Anthony Pettinari with Citi.

Anthony Pettinari

analyst
#25

Ward, you talked about some softness in [ ags ] in the quarter in the Southwest and the Midwest, if I heard that right. And I was just wondering if you could talk a little bit more about that. Was that weather driven or maybe a specific end market. Just wondering if there's any carryover into 4Q or potential [ reads ] into '24.

C. Nye

executive
#26

Thanks for the question. We had a couple of things. One, in the Southwest, frankly, you had a lot of heat and the heat slowed some things down, and you also had some timing relative to the large energy projects as well. So I see a lot of that being pushed off to the right. I mean, clearly and it's not just the Southwest or Midwest issue. There is some degrees of softening relative to warehousing and data centers. I mean that's not a surprise. We anticipated that. But what we are seeing is a nice renaissance relative to manufacturing and then the timing of energy. Energy is coming. Energy is not one of those issues that we have any concerns about. It's just relative to pace. So I think more than anything, we had degrees of timing and we had certain degrees of softness that, from my perspective, were broadly anticipated. And I think that's one of the reasons that when we were giving you our results at half year, part of what we indicated to you is we thought we would probably see a near-term nadir in volumes in the third quarter. So if we're looking at the way Q3 worked from our perspective, Anthony, honestly, no big surprises, including the way the pull-through came through and some -- obviously, some very attractive incrementals in the quarter.

Operator

operator
#27

Your next question comes from Phil Ng with Jefferies.

Philip Ng

analyst
#28

Congrats on a really strong quarter. And obviously, your price -- your value-over-volume approach is showing in your results. But I'm just curious, how much line of sight do you have on your aggregates pricing in 2024? How are your competitors behaving in this environment? Is that value-over-volume approach potentially a risk to your volumes? The reason why I ask is because one of your bigger competitors calling for perhaps weaker volumes than your flattish outlook. So I just want to understand how the competitive landscape is behaving on pricing?

C. Nye

executive
#29

Well, the things that we stay focused on, Phil, is what can we control and how do we run our business, and we do that based on what our needs are. So we're very focused on Martin Marietta. We're focused on where operations are. We're focused on what our inventories look like. We're focused on what our reserves look like in the ground. And we're focused on what we feel like the market can bear relative to these products. So from our perspective, those are really the unique drivers on that. As I indicated before, if you're looking at volumes for the quarter where our volumes down a little bit more than others, yes, probably so, are we okay with that? You bet. Do I feel like that's probably going to find more degrees of equilibrium going forward? I think it probably will. At the same time, if I'm looking at the geographies in which we tend to be focused, let's face it, we're talking about Texas that's going to be awfully good. I mean we're looking at the [ TxDOT ] budget for FY '24, that exceeds $18.5 billion. I mean, that's just a massive budget in Colorado. They recently passed a $5.3 billion 10-year infrastructure bill that's going to be massive in that state here in North Carolina, and it was something that I'm proud to have been part of. We structurally changed the way that we're paying for infrastructure here. Now we're using a degree of sales taxes. And in FY '24, it's going to ramp up to 4% here in North Carolina because North Carolina recognized they needed to increase their spending by over $7 billion over the next decade. But even separate -- distinct from that, if we're looking in Florida right now, Florida is looking at a $17.2 billion budget for FY '24 and that's an all-time record. And I feel like I've said for probably the last 6 or 7 years that every year is an all-time record for transportation in Florida, largely because it has been. And in California, where we brought that new business, the Caltrans budget is $20.5 billion next year. Now to give you a sense of it, that's a 5.5% or 5.6% year-over-year increase with $12.1 billion designated for highway and bridge capital spending. So as we're thinking about what that public funding looks like and we're coming back and looking at what's happening industrially in places like Atlanta, what's going on in South Georgia literally just yesterday, Toyota announced they're adding $8 billion to what is already a large battery plant that's underway in Randolph County that's just downside of Greensboro. These are the types of things that we're seeing in our markets, both in public and heavy nonres that gives us a lot of confidence around the way that we think volumes will work next year. And the fact is with the footprint that we have, I don't have any doubt that we're going to get our fair share of that business. I just want to make sure that we're doing for what we feel like is fair value for that business.

Philip Ng

analyst
#30

Super. And Ward, you mentioned maybe some of the weakness recently is tied to some of these bigger projects, whether it's energy mega products getting pushed out. Can you give us a little perspective when you see that kind of ramping up? Is that early next year, middle part of next year? And then on the public infrastructure side, we could all appreciate there's a lot of money coming. How do you kind of see that ramping up and building into 2024?

C. Nye

executive
#31

Yes, Phil, those are great questions. I think on the public infrastructure side, we're still where we were. We said we thought we would start to see that building in for and then build into '24 -- when I say 4, I mean Q4 of this year. And that was part of what led us to the commentary around the fact that we thought we'd probably see this type of dip in Q3. So again, very anticipated. If we're looking, for example, at the large LNG projects, part of what we're seeing right now is several projects that are already underway. Golden Pass is underway, Chevron Phillips has a large facility in Orange, Texas that's underway; Port Arthur LNG, at least portions of that are underway; Cheniere has a lot of this underway. But if we look going forward, I can think of at least 4 big jobs, and I think this gives you a sense from a timing perspective in Texas, that we're watching. Cheniere has another one in Cameron Parish, Louisiana, Rio Grande LNG in Brownsville and Freeport LNG in Texas, all are looking at, we believe, 2024 start dates. We're actually anticipating some acceptance of materials, maybe as soon as this week on some of those projects. So it continues to be a live conversation. So if we think about it for the year, has timing been a little bit of a headwind on those, yes, it has. Do we think they're going away? Absolutely not. And part of what we're seeing, and frankly, in degrees this is helpful. You've got degrees of material tightness in some of those markets, and that continues to underscore at least the notion of the overall economy in Texas today. So I hope that gives you a snapshot at least on some of the heavy [indiscernible].

Operator

operator
#32

Your next question comes from Timna Tanners with Wolfe Research.

Timna Tanners

analyst
#33

I want to follow up on one would just appreciate that...

C. Nye

executive
#34

Timna, I'm sorry to interrupt you. We're having a hard time hearing you. Can you lean a little bit more, please?

Timna Tanners

analyst
#35

Yes. Is that better?

C. Nye

executive
#36

Yes, ma'am, it is. Thank you.

Timna Tanners

analyst
#37

Okay. Sorry about that. So, Ward, I appreciate the commentary on big projects and starting up in 2024. We have had some delays and cost overruns. So doesn't that affecting your geographies perhaps as much? Or are you budgeting for that as well?

C. Nye

executive
#38

I don't think they're affecting, number one, our geographies that much. And two, to the extent that inflation or varying degrees of it continues to go through, frankly, if we can keep up with that or stay ahead of, Timna, it's actually been an ally to our business, not an enemy to our business. So I do think if we had a strikingly different geographic profile than we have, I would probably feel differently about it than I do. But if we go back to that conversation I was having just a little while ago relative to our leading states and the degree of both public and private activity that we're seeing in Texas and Colorado and the Carolinas and Georgia and Florida. Those are very powerful steady markets right now. And I'm even taken to by the continued resiliency in markets like Indiana and in Iowa as well. Iowa is a state that has been very steady all the way through cycles for us, including probably the single most steady market in which we participated during the Great Financial Crisis. So I just call that out because it's one of those states that doesn't come to mind immediately if you're in New York or Chicago or Dallas or Los Angeles thinking about this industry. But it's been one that for us that's been actually quite important and very durable.

Timna Tanners

analyst
#39

Okay. Helpful. And then just on the commentary on M&A. I know in the past, you would have hoped to have some done by the end of this year now talking about next year. Is that just a timing issue? Or is there anything that you can share there?

C. Nye

executive
#40

It's more of a timing issue than anything else, Timna. Obviously, you know what the process looks like. You're going to have dialogue with a potential company you want to acquire, you'll go through a valuation process, you might go through a letters of intent, contracting, and then you also have regulatory processes that you have to go through. And none of that's easy, but our team is essentially very good at it, but we're going to be thoughtful as we do it. So it's not the fact that you haven't seen more done is not indicative of anything other than it's just an ordinary process. Now part of what's been different, too, in fairness, we're typically not in the selling business. And we've been in the selling business for the last 1.5 years more than we ordinarily would be. And you've seen what we've done relative to the Redding plant in Northern California, the Tehachapi plant in Southern California, and even relative to our ready-mix business in Colorado. I mean if you think back to it, between Stockton, Redding, Tehachapi and our Colorado business that we sold, that's over $1 billion worth of divestitures. And that's not ordinary for us. But again, we talk about the fact that it's an aggregates-led business. And when we talk about cement, we talk about a strategic cement business. So -- some years -- most years we're going to be busier buying than selling. The last 1.5 years, we've actually had more on the sell side than on the buy side for all the right reasons. Thank you, Timna.

Operator

operator
#41

Your next question comes from Tyler Brown with Raymond James.

Patrick Brown

analyst
#42

I want to come back to cost a little bit. So it feels like costs are -- they're obviously remaining fairly sticky here. You mentioned a little bit of easing. So just specifically, where are you seeing some of that moderation? Are you seeing in labor, consumables, is maintenance starting to roll? Just a little bit of color there would be helpful.

C. Nye

executive
#43

Sure. I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll turn it to Jim and ask him to come back and give you more granularity. If you think about overall cost, I mean, have we seen supplies go up mid-single digits? Yes. Have repairs gone up low double digits? Yes, and contract services as well. But Jim can give you a little bit more color on that.

James Nickolas

executive
#44

Yes. It's largely the same story as before, which is a continuing slow moderation in cost inflation, still elevated versus historical levels, slowly coming back to normal from where it was very elevated, but it still remains elevated. I would say the most problematic areas are parts costs are still quite high. I don't see those coming down for a bit. But labor is behaving more and more normal as we go on. But otherwise, I'd say high single digits, mid- to high single digits is the right way to think about it for the rest of this year, getting a little bit better moderating next year. Again, I'm holding aside energy, which is very volatile and just holding that one aside because we don't know where that ends up going. Does that answer your question?

Patrick Brown

analyst
#45

Yes. No, that's very helpful. I appreciate it.

Operator

operator
#46

Your next question comes from David MacGregor with Longbow Research. .

C. Nye

executive
#47

David, are you there?

David S. MacGregor

analyst
#48

I'm here now. Sorry about that. I apologize. Congratulations on a great quarter. Yes, I just wanted to sort of revisit the slide in your deck on highway contract awards up 18%. And I get your thoughts in terms of what's changing in the lag from awards to strong demand and strong shipments?

C. Nye

executive
#49

Yes. No, I think it's been, David, from my perspective, a fairly predictable and I think in large measure, because we went for such an extended period of time without more money coming from the federal government in a meaningful way on that. So if you think about what happened, we had a decade plus of continuing resolutions. Then we had the FAST Act that didn't have more money, but it did have more time. And so now what's happened is you've had that very attractive double whammy of, hey, here comes more money, here comes more time. And you also had DOTs who had actually been building up their own budgets for about 15 years because they weren't getting more money and more time from the federal government. So I think what we're going to see, particularly in Martin Marietta states is, it's not so much driven by maintenance and repair. It's going to be more driven by bringing in new capacity. And that's important for a number of reasons. Number one, our states have had a lot of people move to them. So if we're simply looking at overall population trends, I mean, it's pretty eye-popping to think about the fact that Texas has led all the states and population gains over the past decade, adding 4 million people. If we're looking at Colorado, their population has grown 14.8% just since 2010. I mean North Carolina has been one of the fastest-growing states in the country. Georgia is going to move up to #8 in the country in population. So if you think about why these states need to add capacity as opposed to maintenance and repair. That's a big reason. And if you're thinking about what happens from a lag perspective on rather than putting new asphalt on top of old asphalt, but rather adding a new lane or building new roads, it frankly, takes a little bit longer. Now the punchline is, it ends up being considerably more aggregates intensive. So for us, it's like a big birthday. It's worth the wait sometimes. So we feel like good things are coming from this, but I think that's really driving that lag that we've seen the dollars are there. And you can see where they are. You can see what the state DOT budgets are. But again, I think it's those states, those budgets, those population inflows that are driving a different nature of construction. What we'll see in Charlotte, what we'll see in Atlanta, what we'll see in Dallas is going to be a very different story than what you'll see in New York or what you'll see in Chicago.

Operator

operator
#50

Your next question comes from Michael Dudas with Vertical Research.

Michael Dudas

analyst
#51

You've been terrific observations about the markets and some of the puts and takes heading into end of this year 2024. Just wondering, as you look at the residential side of the business in your important states, it seems -- we're at a -- is that the flywheel that could impact positively expectations on volume given it seems like we're at a bottom or in this kind of longer base bottom given the affordability issues. Is that kind of where the help could come if volumes could get better? And is that a market that you'd be able to take advantage of, given your positioning in your -- certainly your backlog and your ability to serve?

C. Nye

executive
#52

Yes. Look, I think the answer, Michael, is yes and yes to all of the above. It's interesting because you've got 2 issues relative to housing in the United States today. We've talked about one of them, and that is affordability and clearly seeing mortgage rates move to 23-year highs drive some of that. The other issue that doesn't get the airtime that it probably should, but it does in our states is availability. And that's a big issue today. And single-family housing in the U.S. is structurally underbuilt. I mean it's a practical matter, it ought to be trending comfortably over 1 million starts a year, at least as we drill it down to the markets in which most of our business is because, again, we're back to those population trends that I mentioned in the dialogue with David MacGregor just a few minutes ago. If you come to Raleigh, your biggest issue is can you find a house? Same issue in Charlotte, Same issue in Atlanta, in varying degrees the same issues in Dallas Fort Worth and in Colorado today. So to the extent that there could be some upside there, could it be single-family housing driven, I think so. And for example, several things are happening. Our homebuilders looking at having their own mortgage companies within homebuilding companies, they are. Are they doing that because they want to keep building, they do. Do they want to keep building because they know the market is there. Absolutely. And in some instances, are they building and basically building to rent even in the near term because they recognize that they can do that. So I think your point around a swing factor on housing is important. And I think it's relevant to say keep in mind, single-family housing is 2 to 3x more aggregates-intensive than is multifamily. So if you're watching housing look, is it nice to see multifamily go? Yes, is it really nice to see single-family go? The answer is yes. But I think what we've just described is worth watching and could be a build in 2024. And I hope that helps, Michael.

Operator

operator
#53

Your next question comes from Adam Thalhimer with Thomas Davis -- Thompson Davis.

Adam Thalhimer

analyst
#54

Great quarter. Two quick questions, getting late in the call. Two quick questions. One, where do you want us for Q4 because the range is pretty wide. And I'm just curious if we wanted to bake in an early onset to winter, where would that put us? And then the second question is, do you ever see yourself recreating what you've built in Texas and other geographies?

C. Nye

executive
#55

Well, that's 2 big questions for a guy late in the call today, Adam. A couple of things. I'll take the second part of that. I'll leave the first part to Jim. Texas is a tremendous market. And when we bought TXI and when we've done some of the moves that we've made in Texas since then, frankly, we thought it was going to be that kind of a market. But at the same time, we're in some other markets today that are enormously attractive. Do we think we can do some very great things in California? Yes, I think we can. Can we continue to grow our business in places like Florida and still in Texas and in Tennessee and others. The short answer is yes. But one thing I think is so important for me to say, Adam, is you should expect us to continue to be an aggregates-led company. And I think that part of what is so evident in these numbers is, again, how durable that is. Now with respect to Q4, I'll pivot over to Jim, and he can talk to you a little bit more about how we see some puts and takes on that. But frankly, a lot of it is going to be driven by when does winter show up in different parts of our business. So Jim?

James Nickolas

executive
#56

Yes. So Q4, I would say, look, generally speaking, look at the midpoint of whatever we put out, that sort of -- the best way to think about it. What could push it to the bottom end? Ward mentioned obviously, bad weather, rainy weather in Texas, early winter in the north parts of our footprint. And then, of course, there's cost timing and shifts. There's nothing fundamentally happening that's sort of troubling. The costs could shift from 1 quarter to the next, causing volatility. If those slipped into Q1 that would help Q4. If they don't, that would hurt Q4. So I think I'd just stick with the midpoint for now, Adam, and go with that.

Operator

operator
#57

There are no further questions at this time. Please proceed.

C. Nye

executive
#58

Thank you again for joining today's earnings conference call. To conclude, our strong third quarter results underscore the resiliency and secular durability of our aggregates-led business model through various business cycles. Our focus remains on building the world's safest, most resilient and best-performing aggregates led public company for the benefit of our shareholders, customers, employees and other stakeholders. Thanks to the disciplined execution of SOAR and the fidelity of our teams to safety, commercial and operational excellence. Martin Marietta is poised to continue delivering sustainable growth and superior shareholder value in 2024 and beyond. We look forward to sharing our fourth quarter and full year '23 results with you in February. As always, we're available for any follow-up questions. Thank you for your time and continued support of Martin Marietta.

Operator

operator
#59

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