Masimo Corporation (MASI) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 17, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

David Lewis

analyst
#1

Well, good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the Morgan Stanley Healthcare Conference 2020, as we wrap up our last medical device presentation of the fourth day. One very exciting half day tomorrow. We've been sticking with the same theme all day, which has been growth. And it's a pleasure for us to have Masimo with us today and their EVP, CFO, Micah Young. Obviously, I'm David Lewis, medical device analyst at Morgan Stanley, and as I've been saying all day, make sure before we begin, you go to Morgan Stanley research disclosures website, /researchdisclosures and see fun facts about me. Micah is kind enough to give us a brief overview of Masimo real quick, and then we're going to jump into Q&A. Micah, the floor is yours.

Micah Young

executive
#2

All right. Thank you, David. Yes, I just want to give a brief overview. So we have a strong history here at Masimo of innovation, and it really started with our SET pulse oximetry, that's our signal [ extraction ] technology. That's basically an LED sensor technology that shines light through the finger or the tissue to measure the level of oxygen in the blood. It really changed the way pulse oximeters work. At the time, there are 70% to 90% false alarms given by oximeters, due to their inability to measure their motion when a patient moves or low blood circulation, what we call low perfusion. Masimo SET, what we did was we separated the arterial signal from the venous signal because you would get a false low oxygen read from the venous signal. So we separate that in real time, and we're able to measure it through that noise. So we're the first company to get an accuracy specification for motion. And at the time, it was plus or minus [ 3% ]. We've improved that recently to plus or minus 1.5%. And what's happened is hospitals learn to trust our technology, the accuracy of it. And SET's been an expandable platform for us. We've been able to expand that technology portfolio, we've gone from 2 LED sensors to 8 LED with over a dozen measurements. When you start to look at rainbow, capnography, SedLine and O3. All those different parameters that we can measure. In hospitals, we've been able to expand that platform across a continuum of care, whether it's OR or the general floor from the hospital and now recently into the home. We have a very strong business model that really is kind of a razor or razor blade [ model ]. We have a large and growing installed base of what you could quote call "razors", which is our monitoring equipment and technology boards that go into our OEM monitors as well. And that installed base grew 13% last quarter to over 2 million drivers. Historically, that's grown mid-single digits in terms of the installed base and of course, we've been increasing our revenues per driver over time with more and more technologies coming out. We have a durable recurring revenue stream. We typically contract alongside of the capital cells, 5 to 7-year contracts for the sensors, and we have a high retention rate, over 98% on those contracts. We're in over 150 countries now monitoring over 100 million patients per year, and we've seen tremendous growth, especially this year with COVID and the need for our technologies to treat a severe respiratory illness like COVID-19. Just a quick overview on the markets we serve are -- we kind of break it down into 3 categories, which I'm sure we'll talk about here, David, is as core parameters where we have SET pulse oximetry, rainbow, total hemoglobin monitoring, continuously, as well as our advanced parameters, like capnography and gas monitoring, and brain monitoring, so SedLine and O3. And that's about a $3.5 billion market opportunity with those -- all those parameters, growing, we believe, the $4.5 billion by 2025. And our long-range plan has us growing about 8% to 10%. And we've been growing here recently closer to 12% so far. And there's multiple opportunities here for upside with what we can do with hospital automation. That's another large market. That's about a $1.5 billion market that provides upside opportunity to our long-term plan. As well as here recently, you've seen us launch a lot of products in our home-based care in terms of telehealth. So kind of hospital to home. And we believe that, that's at least a $4 billion market opportunity when you think about treating opioid patients who are prescribed post surgery or for long-term chronic pain patients, alone. And there's some other things we can do with that platform. So I want to turn it back to you for some Q&A, but I just wanted to give an overview there.

David Lewis

analyst
#3

Great. Thanks, Micah, and very helpful, specifically the audience aren't as familiar with the story. So look, you started with COVID, or we talked about COVID, and that's obviously been the theme of this conference. Product revenues were up a 30% second quarter orders were up 200% or 175% in that quarter. So the question is to you that's pretty significant demand. What have you seen in sort of that demand post the quarter as you kind of progressed through the summer?

Micah Young

executive
#4

Yes. So in July, we mentioned on our last earnings call, for the month of July, we saw our worldwide sales orders up 40%, driven by another 150% increase in capital orders. So that was very strong, again, as we're headed into Q3. We're expecting -- last quarter, we shipped over 165,000 drivers. This quarter, in the third quarter, we're expecting at least another 140,000. So we can see our installed base probably grow at least exiting this year about 15%. So strong demand for monitoring equipment, especially around pulse oximetry. We also saw some very strong demand for our group in Vital Signs. That was up nearly 5x last quarter as well, and we saw an increase in installations of patients taking that up about 10%, which is very good for not only hospital automation, but also the opportunity for general for monitoring. In terms of our sensors, we've seen that -- the trends there we've seen, we were down as much as 20% at one point during the last quarter. We ended up settling in. Our worldwide sensors were down 8%. U.S. was down a little further than that. July was down about 11%. So we've seen a nice, steady trend back in terms of our volumes compared to pre-COVID volumes. I would say in July, we think it's probably about an 80%, 85% of the volumes that we saw pre-COVID levels.

David Lewis

analyst
#5

Okay. So do you think the post-COVID demand, the reason why that's still -- I'm just trying to get a sense of the underlying demand for the business, underlying driver placements versus COVID, most cap equipment companies, [indiscernible] beds, ventilators and we have some exposure to ventilator boards as well. We can talk about. I'm just trying to get a sense of other cap equipment companies that had a cheap pandemic response are seeing pretty significant shortfalls or just [ about ] resting of their momentum. I wonder, are you also seeing that, or you're seeing more downstream demand as hospitals realize that we don't need a new bed? But we need a better way of monitoring acute care patients across the broader organization. So we can add pulse ox to med-surg beds, not just buying in the rights to new beds. So how do we understand underlying demand versus any risk that we're going to have to see in acute normalization of trends?

Micah Young

executive
#6

Absolutely. We've been very close with our customers, especially with the ones we're selling the equipment in directly with. And what we're hearing is, even though they're working to increase capacity, going from lower acuity beds to higher acuity beds for potential surge in patients who -- treating that backlog of demand of the disease load that's out there, more broadly. They are still looking and saying, well, we've got an opportunity to move and do more monitoring on the general floor. And that's kind of what we're seeing in the trends. It's what we're seeing in the ordering patterns of the equipment that they're ordering. The other thing we're hearing, too, is even though hospitals have lost significant cash flow with procedures being deferred for a period of time, that's put a lot of strains on the capital budgets. And I think what we're hearing, though, is that there's still a demand for pulse oximetry. They may be shaving back on budgets elsewhere. But this is a respiratory disease. We've got a flu season coming in and combined with COVID, and they're preparing for that. I think the demand is still there for pulse oximetry.

David Lewis

analyst
#7

Okay. You did lower your outlook for boards for ventilators a little bit on the second quarter. And then since that time, you've seen more public announcements about sort of ventilator demand shortfall. It's not a very big business, to be honest with you. But is that an incremental risk?

Micah Young

executive
#8

No. Because I mean, if you look at the revenue tied to those boards, it's very -- it's very immaterial from a revenue standpoint on what we get per board. And we've seen that pull back. What we've been saying all year long, though, is we believe that the core boards, the 450,000, whether or not we get that additional 50,000 of ventilator orders, that should give us that increase in our installed base that where we'll exit this year at 15%. So that's kind of what we've focused on because we believe that -- those are the boards that are going to be consuming sensors moving forward.

David Lewis

analyst
#9

Okay. And one of the other companies that was at this conference, their CEO Steve MacMillan and Hologic. He's obviously benefiting also from COVID-related dynamics, specifically diagnostics. So their debate is he's placing a lot of new [indiscernible] or molecular diagnostic systems and people say, "Hey, once you place these systems, we're going to have to demand pull-through? Look, you're placing a dramatic number of drivers here. And you'd like to believe, at some point, there's going to be pull-through, how have you started the work to sort of quantify what the full impact could be? I mean, you can say, " Look, you're only going to use these things as a acute respiratory distress, but that's actually not necessarily true. In some cases, you're just going to democratize pulse oximetry across a hospital system that perhaps wasn't using it as often. And Maybe now that they have it, they're just going to use it. So how have you worked to quantify what the downstream SET opportunity could be based on the significant its stock-based improvement?

Micah Young

executive
#10

Yes. I mean, what -- we have a lot more visibility into our direct business. So if you think about the drivers where we have 20%, 25% of our drivers that we ship, are tied to our direct sales to customers. And we've been staying very close. We hear that the utility will be there as they're looking at the used case as monitoring continuously with pulse oximetry for patients who are post -- after surgery, they're prescribed opioids, and they're on the general floor. And if you look at that, I mean, today, the general floor is very underpenetrated. Probably -- it's about 10% penetration because it's not the standard of care today. So what we're seeing is we think that there's going to be a greater shift there, and we're hearing it from our direct customers. What we don't know yet is we're still working through the OEM side of the business because we, typically, are on the front end of that demand, where we provide the technology board that goes into their multi-parameter monitor. And I think we're going to learn more about that as we go alongside our OEM partners and sensor side of the business with those customers. So I think we've got good line of sight on the direct business. And I think that, that's where we are seeing a shift more towards monitoring on the general floor.

David Lewis

analyst
#11

Okay. So it sounds like that this COVID-driven demand is durable, at least for the near term?

Micah Young

executive
#12

We believe so. Yes.

David Lewis

analyst
#13

And then like a [ Beebe ] and a Baxter, you also are exposed to what we call patient or hospital census. If you have less people in the hospital you have to sell less pulse ox sensors. So that business is coming back. It sounds like similar to how a MedTech procedure company would come back. Is there a kind of concern that's going to come back to a certain level, you, I think, you said sort of 80%, 85%. It's going to sit there for a while. But how do you think that business recovers? And when would you expect that core business to get back to normal?

Micah Young

executive
#14

Yes. And you're talking about the volumes of the 80 -- what we saw in July, the 80%, 85%?

David Lewis

analyst
#15

Yes.

Micah Young

executive
#16

Yes. So we're hopeful, based on what we're seeing, that the way it's trending, that we believe it will get back to at least 90%. The question is going to be that last 5% to 10%. I think it's going to come down to patients' confidence going back into the hospital. And I think the trends would tell you that we're heading back there. I think that you've seen some other companies, I've seen some of the other presentations, and they're seeing similar trends in the data points. So I think there was a company 2 days ago that showed a trend line on medical device procedures that was improving even in August over July, and I think those are some of the trends that we're seeing as well.

David Lewis

analyst
#17

Okay. So you're improving pretty much. There's similar trends that we're seeing across the conference, which is encouraging. And one other thing I've done with my company at this conference is looking at, talking just very loosely about '21 versus 2019. And I don't have a model on your company, so I can really go crazy. But look, your -- the Street consensus number from Masimo are kind of 22% above. 21% is 22% above 2019. And at a first plus, I said, look, this business has been growing. You say 8 to 10, let's be honest, you've been doing better than that these last couple of years. So 22% of at best, kind of, 11% per annum on an underlying basis. I say, on one hand, that seems very achievable. Then I don't know because I feel like you have this underlying demand that's going to pull SET pull-through next year, but then you have these awkward costs. So how should investors sort of think about next year, should we be overly concerned about this very challenging comparable?

Micah Young

executive
#18

I think, the most important way to look at this is we will have some tough comps on capital. No question because once capital gets back to normal levels, and normal levels for us are about 60,000 drivers per quarter. And we think that, that's kind of where it'll go back to normal placement cycles there next year, but it's still early. We're still trying to figure out the puts and takes there. But the most important thing is we are going to exit this year with installed base growth of 15%. So if we can get sensor volumes back to the pre-COVID levels, and then you've got an installed base that's up 15%. Even if utilization is a little lower to start out, we should see an acceleration in our sensor growth that is in a much better position than we were at pre-COVID. And I think that's what's important for the long-term growth of this company.

David Lewis

analyst
#19

Sure. So net-net, Micah, you're kind of saying, we could see some capital headwinds over this downstream. Sensor, what we talked about earlier, kind of net out. It's not the same to think like this business can just continue to grow kind of on the underlying trend. It's been growing [indiscernible].

Micah Young

executive
#20

That's right. That's one way to look at it. Yes.

David Lewis

analyst
#21

How do you feel about margins? Same kind of dynamic, I mean, I forget the core GL on your sensor business. Obviously, I know, it's higher than hardware. But does that give you kind of a positive mix shift as you head into '21 as well. So I think about GNs in that upper 60s range. I felt that there should be some upward mobility there as well.

Micah Young

executive
#22

Yes, absolutely. We came into the year guiding to 68%. We've seen a lot of pressure on margins due to the high capital mix with sensors being down and capital being up, probably impacted us about 400 basis points last quarter. So if you were to normalize that mix, we would have been around that 68%. Now we've also had some challenges with keeping our workers safe, providing the right social distancing, and that's impacted some of our costs in the manufacturing plan as well as across the company, just like every other company, but we believe that we can still get back on track as we go into next year in those high 60s and continue to get back on track in terms of the margin profile we're trying to expand, which is gross margins back in that 68%, growing about 50 basis points per year.

David Lewis

analyst
#23

Okay. Well, let's transition to the -- one of the big businesses that I came down at the Analyst Day as well. And automation -- hospitalization is a huge focus of that day as was hospital to home. What was -- what kind of traction were you seeing? I know it wasn't that much time to build out that business, but what kind of traction were you seeing in things like Root prior to COVID and what has COVID done to that hospital automation business?

Micah Young

executive
#24

Yes, absolutely. I mean, one of the biggest things we saw here, just more recently in the second quarter was that Root sales were up 5x what they were last year and nearly what we sold all of last year. So we've had strong demand in addition to the installations we've seen on patient SafetyNet. When we were -- last year, as we exited the year, we had about 20 customers who had deployed our full automation suite. So we just deployed that starting last year. So we've made some very good inroads and traction there and then as you know, we acquired the Connected Care business from NantHealth, and that's given us some acceleration of that footprint and given us some opportunities to pull-through more revenue opportunities as well as the full automation suite. So we acquired just over 400 customers from that acquisition. We also acquired a very capable sales team and implementation team. We were trying to build that out ourselves, and we were able to acquire it through the acquisition. So strategically, that was a great fit for our company. And there's a lot of synergies in terms of the opportunity to pull-through in that customer base, other parameter revenue for us because we had very little overlap there. So we're making progress there on the hospital automation front. And now that hospitals are starting to contract again, we're excited about the opportunity to gain some more momentum on some of those implementations.

David Lewis

analyst
#25

And this 5x number you gave us, Micah, is this that hospitals were realizing they need more connected information to manage patients in these kind of acute pandemic times? Or is this just you sold dramatic amount of peripherals that have to get tied together? Or is it just reflective of the underlying momentum you've had in the COVID, it's pretty hard for me to tease out those 3 trends within that 5x number.

Micah Young

executive
#26

Yes. I think, hospitals are, #1, they're trying to increase bed capacity. And an economical way of doing that is with Root because it serves as a single interface in the room, it can be a monitor and display and it can bring all the data from everything together. And it can also, within the cradle of Root, you have your pulse oximeter. So we have a Radical 7 that -- where we can do all the measurement of vital signs information. So that's a way for -- if you're increasing bed capacity, Root is an incredible way of doing that because it really serves as that single connectivity hub, and it increases the power of the data through the hospital system. So they're looking at it twofold, increasing [ to have new ] beds and Root drives that capability as well as on the back end, they can start to connect that in with patient SafetyNet, monitor more patients on the general floor. And start to increase our capacity there as well.

David Lewis

analyst
#27

Okay. Micah, I figure at the Analyst Day, if you map this out. If I take these 3 segments of the business that you started this conversation on with the core SET business, SedLine, capnography, hospital automation, obviously, hospital to home. If you go out 5 years, how does your -- the mix of your business shift, right? With these 2 major segments, your biggest TAMs are sort of the smallest or very large TAMs or the smallest part of the P&L right now, what do those things look like in 5 years?

Micah Young

executive
#28

Yes. I mean, I think, we'll see a bigger shift towards rainbow. We'll see a bigger shift towards some of those advanced parameters like capnography, SedLine and O3. Hospital automation we have a tremendous opportunity to take share. And what we look at is about a $1.5 billion market. So that could -- you could see a greater shift or a more material shift towards revenues that have more of a service component as well. And then if you think about the opportunity we have in the home, especially with opioid SafetyNet, that's over a $4 billion market opportunity for us. So that could be a sizable shift in mix towards opioid SafetyNet. Once we get reimbursement, once we get the product approved, get the reimbursement, which that could be out that kind of about 3-year time horizon.

David Lewis

analyst
#29

Okay. I mean I've covered some of your prior competitors in capnography. How big do you think that capnography market is? And what kind of share opportunity you think is realistic for investors to think about the next few years?

Micah Young

executive
#30

Yes. We've sized the capnography market at about $550 million, and we believe it's growing anywhere from 10%, 15%. And so strong growth there. We have probably 5% share of that market today. So we plan -- in our long-term plan, we plan to grow an X percent in that category. So this will be a great opportunity for us. If we could take our share of capnography alone and get that up closer to our pulse oximetry, that's a 40% market share gain opportunity for us, and that's pretty sizable when you look at that $550 million market opportunity.

David Lewis

analyst
#31

Okay. And when you place -- it maybe early, but when you place Root into a hospital system and start [ training assistants ] about automation. Do you have any evidence in terms of the robotics field, there's a dynamic that we could place a robot, obviously, or implant share is going to go up. And I wonder, if you can get a Root system in, if you have SET in a hospital plus Root, your share of capnography in that particular hospital, I mean, if you have 5% share, your share is going to be a lot higher in some hospitals than lower. What are the elements of places where your share is a lot higher? Is it tied to a broad suite of products and bundling solution?

Micah Young

executive
#32

So Root is basically kind of the -- it's the enabler as far as capnography, SedLine and O3 because everything can tie into Root [ in the ] platform that it ties into. So the more we put out there in terms of connectivity with Root, the opportunity we have for pull-through. So if you look at the accounts we're placing Root, that's where we're gaining the most traction on pulling through the capnography business.

David Lewis

analyst
#33

Okay. Understand. Okay. Then just -- there's a bunch of stuff going on, obviously, in patient monitoring. I don't know because there is a lot of different areas there. The -- I think opioid got a lot of attention at the Analyst Day, but they're obviously with SafetyNet. Can you just help me size, just to start off before we get into specifics, size the relative markets within patient monitoring across some of these key areas, Safety, opioid. I guess there's -- yes, I guess, we could start with those 2.

Micah Young

executive
#34

Yes. I'll start with opioid and SafetyNet. So we've sized that up as a $4 billion market opportunity, really looking at -- and it's in excess of there, but we've kind of conservatively viewed it that way. We've sized it up as about 45 million prescriptions. We tied those really to the volume from patients who are prescribed opioids post surgery as well as long-term chronic pain patients. And 191 million prescriptions of opioids a year. So we've taken kind of a more conservative approach on really targeting those 2 segments to start out. So that's a big market opportunity for us. Masimo SafetyNet. We took the opioid SafetyNet, which is still -- or working through with the FDA to get approved on. We've given them a tremendous amount of clinical data, especially the data that we've seen in hospitals where we're monitoring patients on the general floor for using opioids. And we basically repositioned it when a lot of the focus became on COVID-19. So we took the wearable wireless radius PPG device that we had as well as our clinician portal, where you can communicate those vital signs as well as it ties in with the smartphone. And it's got Bluetooth kind of [ connect ] the data back into the hospital. So we position that to treat COVID patients. So that's -- the way to look at Masimo SafetyNet right now as more for COVID patients. The opportunity that's bigger here is when we can start to monitor other disease states for patients. So things like chronic respiratory disease, COPD, emphysema, asthma or chronic heart conditions like CHF. Those are the things that we can expand on that SET platform because it's the most accurate technology out there. And because of its ability to limit false alarms, that gives us the ability to go into the home and expand on that category. But we're still early in sizing that market opportunity up.

David Lewis

analyst
#35

Okay. When can I -- and 2 follow-up questions here. First, on opioid, look, big opportunity, there's some barriers to kind of access your -- when does this business start becoming material to the P&L? Is it 18-months away? Is it 36-months away? Honestly, there is some reimbursement elements or other access issues, but materiality was the real question I had when I left the Analyst Day.

Micah Young

executive
#36

Yes, it's a great question because we've always said that the gating factor here is reimbursement. We thought that we're looking at -- it'd probably take about 2 to 3 years to gain reimbursement once we have approval of the device. And before any material revenues. The one thing that we're trying to look into right now is the MCIP. It's a proposed rule that came out from CMS about a week or so ago. Where it's a Medicare coverage for innovative technology. So they're providing a temporary reimbursement of up to 4 years for breakthrough technologies. And as you know, we were 1 of 8 technologies that were considered breakthrough technology for the opioid crisis challenge of the FDA. So we're hopeful. We're working through that. I think it's something to stay close to because we're trying to work through, do we qualify under that new proposed rule and that could give us some temporary reimbursement pathway that could help us as early as next year. And I would say more material revenues would follow probably the year after.

David Lewis

analyst
#37

Okay. I want to push you on something on Masimo SafetyNet. I mean if you -- Huron bought this big company, [indiscernible] core product is a -- basically, it's a mobile wheeled solution that just does 2 things. It's basically blood pressure and temperature, right? Even they have tried to develop wearables to get after those 2 things because the cost savings to the hospital from a human capital perspective and then cost in total management, if you could just do blood pressure and temperature would be something. So what's the opportunity for Radius T? I mean, it just seems to me that if that can work for blood pressure, you could dramatically reduce the pressure on patient management and inside hospital systems?

Micah Young

executive
#38

Absolutely. I mean, Radius T, we can do continuous core body temperature measurement. So now it gives us the capability to where we can measure now oxygen saturation, respiration rate, pulse rate and now temperature. So that gives us great utility in the hospital. We think there's better outcomes as patients can become more mobile in the hospital system. And all these wireless devices that you're starting to see that common theme from us, can make some big improvements there and drive some value in those hospitals. The other thing I want to add is we also have Centroid, which is a -- basically, it's a wearable wireless sensor that monitors a patient's position and it helps clinicians reduce pressure ulcers or bedsores. And we've recently came out with that. Recently, it was cleared by the FDA. And as you know, I mean, bed -- pressure ulcers affect nearly 2.5 million patients per year, and we've seen where 60,000 of those patients die as a direct result. The other thing is that bed sores are defined as a never event by CMS. So there can be penalties for reimbursement there. So there's a lot of these devices that we're coming out with. You're seeing the common theme of wearables. And I think we've got a great opportunity to drive value in the hospital as well as in the home if you think about Radius T, combined with what we can do with Radius PPG.

David Lewis

analyst
#39

Okay. What is the total? How do you define the TAM, Micah, for SafetyNet?

Micah Young

executive
#40

For Masimo SafetyNet? Or the opioid [indiscernible]?

David Lewis

analyst
#41

Yes. No. Masimo SafetyNet, sorry.

Micah Young

executive
#42

So Masimo SafetyNet, we're working on to find the TAM with a more broader view, and that's because we can expand on the different disease states. The way to look at it right now is still only focused around COVID patients because we got an emergency use authorization. So it's over a certain period of time. We've got right now about 120 hospitals that have fully deployed it. And we have about 1,500 in our pipeline right now, and we typically sell that at about $150 per kit, but it's not quite the waterfall that we get from normal disposable sensor contracts. So just keep that in mind. It's more of a hospitals are piling it. They start to use it. And reorders, and they -- it's more of a stocking type revenue sale.

David Lewis

analyst
#43

Okay. I'm sorry. Why would that not be -- why would they not turn into a per patient pulse ox like business model?

Micah Young

executive
#44

We think it will -- we think that it definitely can get there longer term. But I think what's going to be critical for us is to expand that for the indications of it as well as expand it to other disease states.

David Lewis

analyst
#45

Okay. Yes, that's a -- could be a home run. Okay. Well, on home run, Micah, we're out of time, unfortunately. But I really appreciate anything that we've missed that we should be hammering here at the end here.

Micah Young

executive
#46

No, I think, we touched on everything, all the big hot topics right now, especially with COVID and kind of where utilization is in the hospital. So appreciate the time, David.

David Lewis

analyst
#47

All right, sir. Thanks so much for joining us. I really appreciate you spending time with us.

Micah Young

executive
#48

All right. Thank you. Take care.

David Lewis

analyst
#49

Bye.

Micah Young

executive
#50

Bye.

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