McKesson Corporation (MCK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 9, 2020

New York Stock Exchange US Health Care Health Care Providers and Services conference_presentation 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#1

I think we're live now. This is great. So good afternoon, everyone. This is Eric Coldwell. I cover pharma services and health care supply chain stocks for Baird. It's our pleasure this afternoon to have McKesson with us. Speaking today will be Britt Vitalone, EVP and CFO of the company. And Britt, I think you're going to make a few introductory comments, and then we'll jump straight into the fireside chat, okay?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#2

Sounds great. Eric, thank you. And good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for hosting us in this remote environment. Appreciate it. Maybe I'll just make a couple of comments, and maybe I'll just start with a brief overview about McKesson. And McKesson is a global leader with a diverse set of health care assets and capabilities. And our history dates back to 1833. Our breadth of assets and capabilities really touches pretty much all aspects of health care. And maybe I'll just highlight a few of those to start. We have a scaled U.S. pharmaceutical distribution business that delivers approximately 1/3 of all prescription medicines in North America every day. And we have leading specialty in oncology presences in particular. We have a strong specialty provider business. And we have a growing U.S. oncology network business, and we're the #1 distributor to community oncology. We have a market-leading position in Medical Surgical and we service all of the alternate site -- settings of care. Our prescription technology business focuses on key strategies of our biopharma service partners and life science partners and patients. We have extensive reach in distribution and retail assets internationally in both Canada and Europe. We also play an essential role clearly in times like these with the pandemic, in this evolving environment. We continue to partner very closely with manufacturer partners, government entities, our customers and patients. And we're pleased to have expanded our relationship with the CDC as a centralized distributor for future COVID-19 vaccines and ancillary supply. So a very broad-based set of capabilities and assets. Let me just talk a little bit and transition to some recent performance. As we discussed in our Q1 earnings call at the beginning of August, as we expected, our first quarter was more severely impacted by the pandemic as restrictions and lockdowns really impacted and put unique pressures on our customers, our partners and patients generally. We were able to navigate that first quarter with a combination of discipline and focus in what we continue to believe will be peak levels of global lockdowns and restrictions. We were pleased to finish the first quarter ahead of the expectations that we set on our Q4 earnings call, and we continue to believe that the first quarter will be peak levels of these restrictions and lockdowns. And we expect that we'll continue to see sequential revenue and adjusted operating profit improvement through the balance of our fiscal year. As I talked about on our first quarter earnings call, while we don't expect that the recovery in our business will be linear, we do expect that the business will grow in the second half of the year as compared to the first half of the year and that the fundamentals in our business are -- remain solid and our business continues to be resilient. We remain confident in the updated guidance that we provided on our FY '21 call. As I've talked just briefly about our balance sheet, our balance sheet remains strong. It is underpinned by our investment-grade credit ratings, and this provides us the financial flexibility that allows us to continue to execute against a balanced capital deployment approach. We prioritize investments in strategic growth areas, such as biopharma services, specialty, oncology, leveraging technology in our business and leveraging data and analytics. And we remain committed to continue to return capital to our shareholders through a mix of dividends and share buybacks. So as we kind of wrap up here my opening comments, we certainly are seeing a unique time. We're very pleased with the ability to continue to perform in a disciplined manner and execute against our strategic priorities. Our business remains resilient, and we're looking forward to the balance of the second half of the year as we expect that the trajectory will continue to improve. So Eric, those were just a few opening comments.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#3

Great. Thank you very much. You hit on one of the main topics, one of the more recent topics, which is your relationship with CDC to help with our Operation Warp Speed with the COVID vaccine as a centralized distributor. One of the main questions we've been getting from investors is, do you have a sense of [ if other distributors will not ] be involved? Do you think there will be other centralized distributors? Or will you be primarily shipping to other distributors that may be pulled in over time?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#4

Yes, it's a great question. And maybe I'll just step back and frame the relationship for one. And again, we've been able to expand on an existing contract that we have with the CDC, our Vaccines for Children Program, which we won through a competitive bid process in 2016. And we've been named a centralized distributor for refrigerated and up to minus 20-degree temperature vaccines as well as ancillary supplies. The government will direct all of the administration of the vaccine. They will also direct the vaccines that will be distributed in the program. And it will be the government's decision if they choose to bring other distributors into the process. But we will be the centralized distributor for the program, for the vaccines that I referenced to you as well as ancillary supplies.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#5

Great. And one more quick technical one on that. We did see a release from Health and Human Services that McKesson will receive $178 million in funding for the program. I did have some initial questions from investors about whether that was the totality of the revenue or the profit, which of course, it isn't. But I'd love it if you could take a second and address what that $178 million is, when you might see it and what it relates to.

Britt Vitalone

executive
#6

Yes. Sure. There's really 2 aspects to the program. The first has been announced, which is the $178 million. And this is to reimburse McKesson for expenses incurred to build new and to scale existing infrastructure to support really an unprecedented size of a program here. So we will build new DCs, and we will scale existing infrastructure to meet the demand on both the vaccine side and the supply side. And then separately, as we perform third-party logistics services, we will -- we expect that we will be compensated a fair value for the services that we provide. It's still early in the process. We don't have any other information beyond that but 2 aspects. The $178 million is a reimbursement for expenses incurred.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#7

Last quick one on this. Obviously, you participated in the H1N1 vaccine program around a decade ago. It actually wound up being fairly material to earnings, I believe, fiscal '10, if I remember correctly. Is there any reason to think this program operates differently other than, if and when the vaccine gets approved, the ultimate price, the ultimate volume? Is there any other nuance that would make this program different from H1N1?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#8

Yes, I mean, there are -- I can certainly see the correlation between the 2 programs. They're very different in many respects. Certainly, the size of this program is going to be quite different. I would say that, operationally, that the CDC has taken a similar approach to this program as they did H1N1. But it's still fairly early in the process. There are still some things that are unknown. And if you're drawing a correlation, I would just say the operational approach is similar, but that's all that we can really disclose at this time.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#9

That's fair. One of the big announcements recently also was an internal realign -- announcement of a realignment. You adjusted your organizational and reporting structure, expanded into 4 newly aligned segments. That made a lot of sense to us. We like the move. I thought it was very common sense. But it didn't seem like there was a lot behind it other than moving some businesses, a little bit of a leadership change. I'm curious how you see that realignment really helping you [indiscernible].

Britt Vitalone

executive
#10

Yes, it's a great question. There's a lot of work that goes in to a realignment. There's a whole host of mechanics and teams that are involved with doing such a realignment. So it's not trivial in any respect. I think if you step back and you look at FY '20 as a starting point, when we announced the IPO of Change Healthcare and then the eventual exit of Change Healthcare, we really started to focus in on the strategic priorities around specialty, oncology, biopharma services and really leveraging technology. And so the exit of Change Healthcare, that really was the impetus, if you will, to really provide some more transparency on businesses that we are moving forward with and the strategies that we are moving forward with. And so we felt that it was important and that it would provide good transparency. We felt that it would be better transparency than having assets in another segment to really align those assets and the reporting around the strategy that we're moving forward with. So I think that's really the -- what was behind this. And hopefully, it will give the right visibility to our investor base.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#11

So it sounds like perhaps the thought process was in place. Change was part of the initial stages. Oftentimes we see realignments and down the road, we hear the company is changing their investment strategy or they're getting ready to divest noncore or what are now seen as noncore assets. This seems like more of an evolution of something that's been ongoing for a period of time as opposed to a precursor to something really big ahead. Is that a fair statement?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#12

Yes. I think we've been talking about -- for the past couple of years about the focus areas in the business, and then we really crystallized the strategy at the beginning of FY '20. And that really culminated FY '20 with the exit of Change Healthcare. So it's really been an evolution. And as we've gone through that path, we've tried to provide additional transparency into some of our businesses. We think that the realignment of our segments is going to help bring even more visibility and transparency to investors and the areas that we're focusing on from a strategic perspective.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#13

Last quarter, you -- and in the prepared remarks as well -- mentioned about how some of the businesses that were initially impacted the most recovered quickly, perhaps even faster than you really expected. I want to hit on a couple of those. First one was Primary Care. And obviously, you commented on the very strong recovery in June compared to what you were seeing in the prior 2 months. Since that date, we've seen some conflicted national information on volumes and utilization. Some sources say volumes have sort of stagnated since July, August. Others are seeing a little bit of improvement. I'm curious if there's anything unique to the mix of your Primary Care business, either geography, products, et cetera, that would lead your experience to be different than what perhaps people are seeing on a national average when it comes to utilization.

Britt Vitalone

executive
#14

Yes. I think if you start back with the guidance that we provided, certainly, the timing of our guidance was challenging for us, right, really in the beginning stages of the pandemic. And we highlighted that we thought that areas around Primary Care, elective procedures, some specialties would be the most impacted. That turned out to be true. Certainly, the trajectory of those businesses recovered faster than we had originally anticipated. We saw that, that trajectory continued through June and then begin to stabilize through the end of the quarter. We are still seeing that trajectory improve. As we talked about on our first quarter call, we expect that there will be an improvement sequentially in both revenue and adjusted operating profit. We still continue to believe that, that will be the case and that the first quarter will be the peak levels of this. We did talk, though, at the beginning of the year and I think it's important to just point out again that we do not expect the recovery in our business or even parts of our business to be linear. And this is going to be a year of really nonlinear trajectory, if you will. And in some parts of our business, it will be even more dramatic than others. But generally speaking, we still feel that the trajectory of our business is up. We still believe that the second half of the year will be growth as compared to the first half of the year and that the patient volumes and visits that we were seeing, in particular, our Primary Care business, will continue to improve throughout the balance of the year.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#15

In a similar vein, your oncology platform in total had a nice recovery. And oncology was generally seen as one of -- if not the, perhaps one of. It's not the most resilient of all the therapeutic classes for obvious reasons. If I heard you correctly on your second -- on your first quarter, fiscal first quarter call, I think you were back to about 5% of baseline on total visits, although a component of that was telemedicine. Question is, have you seen [ a movement ] back to live visits, the actual patients going to the site? And then tied to that, can you maybe spend a minute giving us a sense on how economics vary between a live visit and a telehealth visit? [ Any nuances? ]

Britt Vitalone

executive
#16

Yes. Let me unpack those questions in order. We did see -- oncology generally is more resilient. Cancer patients are going to generally continue on therapy. Certain aspects of oncology were more impacted than others. And so visits did kind of drop off through the pandemic period. Visits have been continuing a positive trajectory throughout the first quarter. We did see that telemed -- telehealth as a component of that recovery. I think on the first quarter, I called out about 15% of all visits that we were seeing in the quarter were telehealth visits. We think that, that's actually adding a lot of efficiency to the practices. And we think that it's adding more time that doctors can spend with patients and more patients that they can see. So we think that there are some definite benefits to telemedicine. In terms of the economics from a reimbursement perspective, there's not a material difference between telemedicine and a live visit. And I would expect that we will continue to see a mixture of the 2. Will it get higher than 15%? I think time will tell. But generally speaking, the economics are relatively consistent from a reimbursement perspective.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#17

Europe -- I have a few more I want to hit on quickly. I'll start with Europe. Again, on your fiscal Q1 call, you commented that your U.K. and European businesses recovered better. And I think it was something we actually expected. You have a pharma-centric model. It's a different footprint than your big, visible competitor, Walgreens. We felt like that business was really resilient and proved to be the case. So because of COVID and some of the [ conversations that, that business has been undergoing ] for a few years now and that you're working hard to protect and improve profitability there, I'm just -- I'm curious if you can give us an update on the status of Europe, your U.K. pharmacy operation in particular. And then talk about some of the transformation that you're doing in that business, including digital and other methods.

Britt Vitalone

executive
#18

Yes. Thank you. So our European business is really a dozen different businesses. Each country behaves a little bit differently. Certainly, there are different reimbursement schemes in each country. We have retail in some countries and not in others. Generally speaking, the countries in Europe have been growing slower than we would see in like our specialty business, as an example, but resilient businesses nonetheless. COVID has had an impact across Europe. Some countries have had greater restrictions and lockdowns than others, and so they recovered less than other countries. But generally speaking, our business has been performing well from a distribution perspective. Where we've had challenges in the model in Europe has really been on the retail side and really focused in our U.K. business. We've taken a number of actions over the last few years to either rationalize the footprint, to take additional cost reduction actions, to look at shared services and other ways to bring greater efficiencies to that business. One of the things that we did do a couple of years ago was we made an acquisition of a company called Echo, which helped us continue to digitize our model and provide a more omnichannel experience for our customers. That proved to be quite prescient as we got into the pandemic. Customers needed to find other ways than walking into a pharmacy to fill their prescriptions, and more customers became comfortable with the digital experience. We talked about a 300% increase in the number of digital experiences on Echo in first quarter versus the prior year. In fact, we saw 100,000-visits increase on the Echo platform. It took 4 years to get the first 100,000. So customers and patients are becoming more comfortable in an omnichannel presence and more comfortable with the digitized experience. And certainly, that's been one way that's helped us sort of improve the fundamentals of our European business in addition to just basic cost efforts and restructuring of the footprint.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#19

The last one I wanted to hit on from a segment perspective is Medical Surgical, another area that I thought, all things considered, did quite well. A specific question here is on PPE. We had a lot of our coverage list of companies that either white label or contract manufacture or actually directly manufacture their own PPE, and everybody's had a bit of a different experience. One of the things that we've seen is that several of the distributors that don't have access to their own product or having to source from Asia or elsewhere certainly had revenue benefits from PPE, but there were pretty big headwinds on profit. Costs went up, logistics costs, inventory costs, et cetera. I'm curious if you can give us an update on what you're seeing with PPE and what your experience is there. And then maybe looking down the road, does any activity that's happened in the last quarter or 2, does that create a comparison headwind or even a profit tailwind, you tell me, as we look into the next 12, 18 months?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#20

Yes. So I think it starts -- as you think about our business, pharma side is very similar to our medical side. We have very strong and great depth of relationships with manufacturers, whether that be national brand suppliers or some of our own private brand products and categories. Certainly, PPE's different margin profile than other product categories. Even within the med-surg space, we saw increased -- very significantly increased volume demand coming through PPE. And I think that, that put some unique pressures and challenges on -- all the way down the supply chain. Our depth of relationships and the number of partnerships that we have, including the partnership that we have with Walmart, which allowed us to source gowns in a very partnered way, helped to bolster our and support the businesses that went through these, really, spikes in demand. So from a supply chain perspective, I think we managed it quite well given our partnerships, whether it be it Walmart or the depth of partnerships that we've had for a number of years. Clearly, that creates a mix, a product mix, within the business. But we'll see how that demand plays out over time, whether that was just an initial spike. Everybody kind of rushed in to make sure that they had PPE. But our relationships, I think, put us in a good position as we move forward.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#21

Britt, I think you mentioned in your prepared remarks and again in response to an earlier question that it doesn't require linearity. You do expect some fluctuation and variability through the year across the company as well as across individual businesses. [ I think every ] company deserves a pretty big hall pass this year with guidance, and it would be hard for any [indiscernible]. But let's assume that [ if we say there is a second shutdown ]. I want to play devil's advocate, and let's say a second wave of shutdowns. What if there is [indiscernible] if there is a second wave of shutdowns that the country is going to be more prepared than the first time so perhaps the impact won't be [ as severe ]? We heard that from another company today in another presentation. What are your thoughts on that if we did, for example, have a really rough flu season, we -- in the late winter, early spring, we had a second round of shutdowns? Do you think that you're much better prepared to handle that, the second go?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#22

Yes. I would start with -- back to your comment on guidance. Our -- the guidance that we provided was an interesting time for us to provide that. And certainly, we gave a lot of thought into how -- if we give guidance and how we gave guidance. We thought that it was important to do that. And certainly, the quarter evolved quite rapidly. And so I think it's important for us to continue to provide you our best view as time goes on because I think that this is going to continue to be an evolving environment. I think all companies, including McKesson, learned a lot through this first phase. It certainly pressure-tested a lot of the supply chain relationships and capabilities that we had. I think we performed quite well through this. We didn't see real supply shortages or supply challenges. We were able to continue to distribute in a very effective way, in a timely way to our customers. So I think we performed well through the first initial spike. I think we learned a lot through that. I don't anticipate that if there is a second lockdown that it will look like the first one. I think that governments and countries and economies learned a lot through that as well. I think it's hard to predict what a second wave could look like. But certainly, having gone through the experience and really managing it in a disciplined way with good execution, I think we learned a lot. If there is a second wave, then I think that McKesson is well prepared to continue to service its customers.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#23

I want to wrap up. We have about 3 to 4 minutes left. So I have 2 more big topics here. First off is more macro, perhaps harder to put a specific finger on it. But we had a number of companies across all of our coverage list that have talked about the learnings and adaptations with COVID, things that have been accelerated, investments or decisions that have been accelerated because maybe the future has been catalyzed, pulled forward 5, 10 years, in some cases, with things like telemedicine or digital. In the vein of never let a good crisis go to waste, what has McKesson learned? Have there been -- if you had to list 1, 2, 3 of the biggest things that you've taken away from your last 6 months' experience in terms of how that shapes your next 6 years, what are those?

Britt Vitalone

executive
#24

Well, I think one of the first things that I learned and I think some my colleagues would share is just the incredible resistance of our employees. Frontline workers have performed amazingly through this. And as I just think about my own teams, we were -- we moved to a remote environment overnight, and we did that during our year-end close. So imagine what a year-end close is like without a COVID experience and then to do it in a remote way literally. The resilience of our employees, the adaptability, the ability to flip technology around very quickly and the business continuing to really not miss a beat. I think our employees showed a lot through this. I think that technology has played a big role in supporting that. So that would be the first thing that I would say. The second thing I would say is, going back to what I talked about earlier, is the digitization of the pharmacy experience in the U.K., the importance of an omnichannel approach to things. Telemedicine is certainly going to play a bigger role going forward. And I think, again, we adapted to that really on the fly and really without a lot of hiccups. And I think customers are taking to that. And I think that our patients are taking to it and manufacturers are taking to it. So I think continuing to stay ahead of the curve, adapt the technology, continue to bring efficiencies into play, not only for the company, but how that plays down to our partners and our customers is going to be increasingly important and staying ahead of everybody else in that -- in gaining that efficiency and automation.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#25

So I'm going to end on the least favorite topic but the one that I'll be probably beaten up if I don't ask it. It's the obligatory sell-side ask on every distributor call and has been for years: opioid litigation. I assume if there was anything [ that needed to be said, it had been ] said already. But the main questions are twofold. One, it was almost a year ago. We heard about $18 million (sic) [ $18 billion ] over 18 years. Obviously, we had a pandemic, and things maybe didn't progress on the schedule that maybe some people would have hoped for. Two, now that things are opening up -- or combined with that, now that things are opening up [ can you remind us of ] some resolution or some progress here that will be more tangible to The Street. And [ I want to go through your ] West Virginia cases [ in the prior year ]. There's a lot that's been going behind the scenes. I'm just curious if there's any update whatsoever on opioids.

Britt Vitalone

executive
#26

I appreciate you asking the question. I certainly understand. I understand it's an important topic. Look, we've been very focused getting through this pandemic, focused on our employees, focusing on our customers. We believe that the states have equally been focused on the pandemic as well. We continue to believe that a global resolution is in the best interest of all parties. And we still think that, that would be the right outcome. Other than that, there's really not a lot of additional incremental information that I can provide you at this time. And if there's some breaking information to provide, we'll certainly provide it. But I think the focus has really been on the pandemic, and I think the focus still remains on getting to a global resolution, which is in the best interest of all parties.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#27

Britt, I appreciate it. Hopefully, you'll bear with us. We sell-side analysts, we have to ask the question that we get so often. I appreciate [ the comment ]. I really appreciate it.

Britt Vitalone

executive
#28

I understand.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#29

Maybe we've gone about a minute over. We need to wrap it up. But I just want to thank you and McKesson for joining us and participating here. And congrats on the strong performance through the early stages of the pandemic.

Britt Vitalone

executive
#30

Thanks so much, Eric. Appreciate it. Bye-bye. Thank you.

Eric Coldwell

analyst
#31

Thanks, Britt. Bye.

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