McKesson Corporation (MCK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 15, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Ricky Goldwasser
analystHi, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm Ricky Goldwasser, Morgan Stanley's Healthcare Services Analyst, and we are on day 2 of our Global Healthcare Conference. I'm very pleased to have McKesson's CFO, Britt Vitalone, here with us today. McKesson, obviously, the largest drug and medical product distributor in the country, and has played a very important role during the COVID pandemic and is going to play a very important role going forward in facilitating vaccine distribution. So clearly, we have a lot of questions, and looking forward to the conversation with Britt today. Before we get started, I just want to make sure that this webcast is for Morgan Stanley's clients and appropriate Morgan Stanley employees only. It's not for the members of the press. And if you are a member of the press, please disconnect and reach out separately. And for important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com. And if you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley representative. And with that, thanks again for Britt, and I'll pass it over to you for some introductory remarks.
Britt Vitalone
executiveWell, thanks, Ricky, and good morning. And I really appreciate you hosting us in this virtual way. Let me make a few opening remarks, and I'm going to start with an overview of McKesson, and then just briefly talk about recent performance. McKesson is a global health care services leader with businesses and assets that really span and touch most areas of health care. Let me just talk about a few of those here this morning. We have a scaled U.S. distribution pharmaceutical business that delivers approximately 1/3 of all prescription medicines in North America each day. We have leading specialty and oncology business presence. We have a strong specialty provider network as well as our U.S. oncology network, and we're the #1 distributor to community oncology. We have market-leading medical-surgical business that serves the alternate care market. We have a prescription technology business serving our biopharma and life sciences partners in patients, and we have extensive distribution in retail assets internationally, in both Canada and in Europe. In this evolving environment, we continue to play a very important role as well as through this pandemic. We continue to partner closely with manufacturers, with our customers and with patients, and we're pleased to have expanded our relationship with the CDC to support Operation Warp Speed as a centralized distributor of COVID-19 vaccines and ancillary supplies. Let me just transition here briefly and talk a little bit about recent performance. As we discussed on our Q1 earnings call in the beginning of August, as we expected, our first quarter results were severely impacted by the global pandemic as social distancing requirements, lockdown restrictions placed unique pressures on manufacturers, customers and patients. We navigated the quarter with a combination of discipline and focus and executed through what we continue to believe are going to be peak levels of the pandemic and restrictions and social distancing requirements. We continue to believe that our first quarter results will be the most severely impacted, and we expect to see sequential improvement through the balance of the year in both revenue and adjusted operating profit. Although we don't believe that the recovery in our business will be linear, our business fundamentals remain solid. And we continue to expect to see growth in the second half of the year as compared to the prior year. We are pleased to finish the first quarter ahead of our expectations, and we remain confident in the guidance that we provided on our first quarter earnings call. We have a strong balance sheet that is underpinned by investment-grade credit ratings. This provides us the financial flexibility to continue to deploy capital in a balanced manner. We prioritize strategic investments in the growth areas that we've outlined: specialty, oncology and biopharma services, leveraging technology, data and analytics. And we remain committed to returning capital to our shareholders through a combination of dividends and share buybacks. So before -- as I wrap it up here for you and turn it back to you, Ricky, in closing, the current environment continues to present many unknowns, but our business remains resilient with a combination of strong execution and very stable fundamentals. So thank you for hosting us today.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystThank you, Britt. And obviously, McKesson has a very unique position with visibility into drug transit pharmacies, digitalization of physician offices, capturing your medical and specialty segments and global perspective. So how were the volumes across the U.S. business been trending in July, August and September to date compared to the pre-COVID baseline and versus your expectation?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. As we talked about on our first quarter earnings call, we did expect that the first quarter would be the most severely impacted, principally in the areas of Primary Care and specialty provider as we thought that the pandemic would have unique restrictions on the mobility of patients. As we went through our first quarter, we saw that the recovery began to improve in all parts of our business, particularly in the second half of June. So the trajectory continued to improve as we laid out. And then it began to stabilize as we got through July. So we're pleased with the trajectory and the recovery. It was ahead of our expectations. We continue to see good interaction of patients with physicians, with their specialty providers, and we're encouraged that we think that this trajectory will lead to sequential revenue and operating profit growth through the balance of the year.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystAnd you talked a little bit about the medical, but can you also talk -- share with us some thoughts on the trends that you're seeing on the pharmacy side? One of your peer was here yesterday and talked about your strength in Medical, more of a softer environment on the pharmacy side. What are you seeing for your book?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Well, we've seen that trajectory continued to improve from the early days of the pandemic. And we've seen it not only improve through the first quarter, but we've seen it begin to stabilize as we got into our Q1 earnings call. So we're encouraged that the trajectory is on the line that we had anticipated, that it is -- continue to come up to those pre-pandemic levels, and we expect that we'll see sequential improvement through the balance of the year. And in fact, as you may recall, we talked about growth in our pharmaceutical business in the second half of the year as compared to the prior year. So we expect that the trajectory that we're seeing will continue through the balance of the year.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystIn -- if we think about these last 6 months and structural changes to behavior, from what you've observed in the marketplace, are there any structural changes to behavior that you can point to whether it's from trends in independent versus national accounts or how individuals interact with physicians? And are there any new opportunities that you can build on, on a post-pandemic world?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. I would hesitate to talk about any structural changes. Structural changes, to me, happen over a long period of time. And I think that we're still in the early days of this evolving environment. That being said, what we have seen is that our independent customers continue to be resilient. They continue to innovate. And the performance that we've seen in the independent segment has been relatively similar to the other channels that we serve. And so we're encouraged by that. Clearly, we've spent a lot of time supporting our independent customers. Whether that's through innovation, opportunities that might be available to them and certainly helping them understand other needs that they might have. There have been no credit issues thus far. So they've held up very well, and we're very pleased with that. And they've continued to innovate along the areas of things like digitization and how they interact with their customers. So the independents have held up well. We've seen all channels really continue to integrate. So as an example, we talked about telehealth in our oncology practices. That has added what we think is efficiencies in the practices. And we've seen up to 15% of all visits now being telehealth, and that has been additive to the practices. And I would expect the telehealth and telemedicine will continue to have a place going forward. Certainly, the way that we operate, we've become more of a remote environment. We find necessity, but certainly, we found some efficiencies through that over the last 6 months as well. So I think in the areas of working with technology and working from a back-office through technology, interacting with patients in a more digitized manner, those have accelerated. And I think that they'll have a place long term. And certainly, it's an opportunity for McKesson to support its customers through that.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystLet's talk about the vaccine. Obviously, you've been selected by the CDC as the centralized distributor for COVID-19 vaccine. And you had a similar role with the H1N1 vaccine back in 2009, 2010. Quality vaccine distribution is expected to expand beyond the traditional health care side. So can you maybe walk us through the logistics of it all?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. So a couple of things. Certainly, McKesson has the capabilities, the assets to support a program of this type and of this size. We've demonstrated that through our long history. The H1N1 situation is a good example of that, where we were the centralized distributor for the H1N1 vaccine in the ancillary supplies. So we've demonstrated our capabilities in the past. We were able to expand an existing relationship that we have with the CDC. This is a contract now that we've been the exclusive distributor for the last 13 years. So clearly, we've demonstrated our ability to distribute vaccines. And we were selected here by the government to be the centralized distributor for a refrigerated and up to minus 20-degree vaccines as well as ancillary supplies. As we think about this program specifically, there's still a lot to learn. It's still early on in the process. The government will make all the decisions on the administration of the vaccine. They'll make all the decisions in terms of where the vaccine is distributed and which vaccines will be distributed and along what timetable, and we will provide our services as a third-party logistics provider. And we expect to be paid a fair value for the services that we provide through that. So clearly, we're pleased with the opportunity to expand our relationship. We think that it really fits in the capabilities. And certainly with the assets that we have within McKesson, we can certainly leverage some of the operational aspects that we learned through H1N1. But beyond that, I think there's still a lot to learn, particularly around the financial aspects of the arrangement.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystAnd then, obviously, there are specific vaccine candidates that have lower storage temperature requirements than the minus 20. So are you investing in technology to be able to handle those vaccine candidates? Or do you envision other industry players stepping in to fill the role, and you have more sort of kind of like a centralized role to manage all of the different components of it?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Well, look, McKesson has the capabilities to distribute vaccines. We've done that for -- certainly throughout our history. Our contract with the government is for refrigerated and minus 20. That is the scope of this contract. It will be the government's decision if they decide to bring other distributors into the program, but our role will be the centralized distributor for those refrigerated and up to minus 20 as well as ancillary supplies.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystI think that HHS has committed about $178 million to fund investments ahead of vaccine distribution. So what investments are you making to prepare?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Certainly, this program is unprecedented in terms of its size. And the $178 million represents a set of funds to reimburse McKesson for investments that we will make to scale and build new distribution centers and put assets in place to handle really the size and the scope of this contract. So it is a -- it is to reimburse us as we build to handle the size and the scope of the program.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystI got one more vaccine question, and then we're going to move on to another topic from the audience. If you can just talk about the partnership that you have with Cryoport. And are you using them for storage?
Britt Vitalone
executiveI'm sorry, could you just repeat the last part of that, our partnership?
Ricky Goldwasser
analystWith Cryoport. And are you using them for storage?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Well, I really don't want to talk about the specifics on this. McKesson is the centralized distributor. We will use the assets within McKesson and our partnerships, and we'll explore all partnerships available to us to really handle our role in this distribution. I don't really want to single out any particular partner. There will be many partners that we utilize to help us in our role as a centralized distributor.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystSo moving on to Europe. It's been almost 7 years since your investment in Celesio. When you think about the different parts of their portfolio and how the markets have evolved, does having a footprint in Europe still contribute to the overall direction of the enterprise?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Well, I would talk about a few things. Certainly, our business in Europe has had kind of a bumpy history. And it has been challenged, particularly in the U.K. and the retail side of the business. I would remind you, though, that if you look at our second half of FY '20, we had really good improvement in our results, and we had growth and good momentum as we exited FY '20. So we felt good about the investments that we were making in the business, we felt good about some of the cost actions that we were taking. And the results were improving as we went through the balance of the FY '20 year. And the momentum coming into the year was quite strong. Unfortunately, COVID kind of came right at the end of the year and has certainly challenged many of the economies that we participate in. Each of the different countries that we participate in have had different impacts from COVID. Certainly, each country has made different decisions on social distancing and restrictions and lockdowns and so forth. But we have seen, like the rest of our business, the trajectory of volumes and patient interactions continue to improve through our first quarter and begin to stabilize as we exited the quarter. So we believe that the assets will position us to continue to grow. Certainly, we've talked about some actions we took at the end of the first quarter to continue to position our U.K. retail assets by looking at the store footprint itself and taking additional cost actions. But we've done other things such as the acquisition of Echo, which has provided us another way to interact with our patients on a more digital basis. And that really proved to be quite prescient during the pandemic as we saw the number of online pharmacy interactions increased quite significantly. So creating that omnichannel presence really benefited us, and we think that, that will benefit us going forward. So it is a business that continues to contribute to adjusted operating profit. It's a business that performed well in the second half of the year, and we continue to make the right actions that we think will propel us for growth as we come out of this pandemic.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystBritt, it now seems ages ago, but there was an announcement about a JV with Walgreens in Germany. What time line are you looking at?
Britt Vitalone
executiveWell, as we talked about -- well, first of all, we think that it's the right thing, and we think that it will -- that, that JV will propel the combined business to compete more effectively in the market. As we talked about in our Q1, and as we noted in our disclosure, in our 10-Q that we expect that the close of this transaction to happen within 6 months or as regulatory approvals occur. So that same timetable that we're on, no change from the comments that we made in Q1.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystOkay. Moving on from Europe, back to the U.S. and to opioid litigation, I mean, states are obviously under lots of fiscal -- very high level of fiscal pressure. We've seen an influx of media articles on it. Can you just comment on yesterday's decision of the New York State Federal with respect to opioid? Sand overall, do you think it stays are now more open to what we define as a creative solution, but a solution to move forward?
Britt Vitalone
executiveI'm not sure I can comment on what creative is. And there's really not much that I can say at this point. What I can say is that McKesson has been very focused throughout the pandemic on our employees and the health of our employees, the health of our customers and being able to deliver in a consistent and stable manner of the supplies and the services that our customers need. We believe that the AGs have been equally focused on the pandemic, and we continue to believe that a global resolution is the right outcome for all parties. And we'll continue to dialogue where appropriate to -- for that end result. Unfortunately, there's not a lot more that I can really provide in terms of where these discussions are. And in terms of the New York that came out yesterday, it's pretty fresh. I haven't really had a chance to study it in a lot of detail. So there's really not a lot I can comment on now. We'll certainly look at it and look at all the components of that over the next couple of weeks. And if there's something that we think that it's material to provide, we'll certainly do that on our next earnings call.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystOkay. Another headline from the last few days was around the current administration focused on the most favorite nation type of pricing mechanism. Obviously, much of it applies to specialty and Part B drugs. So how do you think about the viability of these proposals post election? And how should we think about any impact to run the business?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Look, I think these are topics that have been around now for quite some time. So I would expect that these will be focus areas, not only up until the election, but probably afterwards as well. I would say that in terms of these specific executive orders, they lacked a lot of clarity. Certainly, we have a lot of questions about them. On the Part B side, it was implement, whatever implement means because there wasn't a lot of clarity behind that. And on the Part D side, the language was develop and implement. But again, it's unclear what that really means. So we remain very active in the discussions with public policy to try to understand what it is that the administration is trying to achieve. As more information becomes available, we'll be able to study it and understand the impacts to not only McKesson, but our customers. But at this point in time, I would say that it's more information without a lot of clarity.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystAnd I have another one from the audience. And I think, Britt, it's pretty telling about the times when I have not yet asked you a question about generics or generic pricing, right? It was front and center in the breakfast we were in exactly 12 months ago. But here's one that touches on generics. And specifically, is how do you see the impact of the evolution of the online pharmacies that we're seeing kind of like scouting on the generic business? Do those type of pharmacies pay into source neck in directly? Or do you just see them as an extension of the independent market in just another customer group?
Britt Vitalone
executiveWell, I think that the online pharmacies are continuing to develop. Certainly, the scale that we have within our generics business and with our sourcing operations, we believe that we can certainly be an asset to help provide low-cost generics with a stable supply. So as those continue to develop, the opportunity for McKesson is to use the scale and certainly the sourcing capabilities that we have to -- like we do with all of our customers, provide good, stable supply at a low cost. And so as those online pharmacies continue to develop, we'll evaluate those opportunities. But as I think about the generics marketplace, what we have seen, for several quarters now is, on the sell side, a competitive but stable environment. McKesson continues to take a disciplined approach towards pricing. And on the buy side, we have a very effective and scaled sourcing operation in ClarusONE. We continue to believe that we source as well or better than anybody in the marketplace. And that provides us the opportunity not only to provide that good, stable supply, but low cost to our customers, which we think is advantageous to them and certainly allows McKesson to earn spread between the buy and sell operations that we have in place. And so stable, competitive environment. The scale and size of ClarusONE, the breadth of relationships really that we have and that we've developed positions us well to help our customers going forward.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystAnd when you think about the supply chain and manufacturing, and whether it's on the generic side or the medical supply, and obviously, in the last 6 months, another topic of discussion was, how do you diversify the supply chain in bringing some of the manufacturing back to the U.S.? How do you think about that? And when you think about the role, do you see in kind of like your future any opportunities for you to be involved in some of that CapEx self-manufacturing? Or is that something that you kind of like stay away from? Obviously, you have your own generic operation, but kind of like just any thought as to how the supply chain is going to evolve.
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. I'd make a couple of comments here. First, I would remind everyone that we do not own manufacturing operations. We have very strong relationships. In some cases, we do contract manufacturing, but we have broad relationships with a number of manufacturing partners in a number of different countries. And so that has served us well. We think that, that still is the right strategy for us. We think that, that diversity of relationships and capabilities and supply is appropriate and positions us well to continue to source effectively in a low cost for our customers. I would just say that the sources of supply have continued to evolve now for several years. And I would expect that manufacturers will continue to look at opportunities to source in a variety of different countries. And the partnerships that we have developed will position us well as they continue to evolve their sourcing operations and their logistics chains. So again, we do not manufacture ourselves. We do not own manufacturing operations, but the strength and the diversity of our supply chain and our manufacturing base, I think it will continue to be a source of as an asset for McKesson going forward.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystGreat. And we have 1 minute, and there's 1 question here that I do want to address because I think as you think about your long-term position, and the question is really about, how is the competitive landscape in specialty distribution, where you have this leading share business and where the future growth opportunities are different from the traditional distribution business? And how do you think about kind of like that landscape evolving?
Britt Vitalone
executiveYes. Well, look, there's a lot of opportunities in specialty. First of all, it's the area of greatest innovation within the drug pipeline, and I think it will continue to be that over time. Certainly, the sites of care are different and provide different opportunities. There's different interactions with our customers. There's different needs from those customers. And so we've built, as I talked about earlier, leading specialty provider and oncology capabilities, not only on the distribution side, but in terms of the data and some of the other services that we can provide, whether that be purely data or GPO services that our customers need. And so I think that having that diversity of customer base, having the diversity of assets that we can deploy for our customers in the area of greatest innovation is a source of strength for us. And I think that that's one of the key reasons why we have highlighted this as a strategic growth area for the business going forward.
Ricky Goldwasser
analystGreat. So thank you, Britt, for joining us today. Thank you, everyone, for joining us on the call, and this concludes our session.
Britt Vitalone
executiveThank you, Ricky. Appreciate it.
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