Mega Lifesciences Public Company Limited (MEGA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 15, 2022

Stock Exchange of Thailand TH Health Care Pharmaceuticals earnings 44 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#1

[Audio Gap] So just to give you the initial flavor, I'm just going to begin with saying that the first half has been good compared to what we have done over the last year. In spite of COVID being at the peak, we have seen some good traction in especially 2 markets, Thailand and Vietnam, have done well. But overall, our branded business across the world we are in has done reasonably well. All brands, brands established. And not only just COVID products -- and I'm sure you'll have this question, we'll answer them as we go along, is it only COVID? No it's not only COVID. The hospitals are open now, and people are -- there's more traffic in the hospitals. So [Foreign Language] Even our drug business, we've seen improvements and traction in most of our markets. A lot of new products that are in pipeline are going along. So all the things that we are doing have promises, and there are issues in spite of the headwinds on fuel cost, energy cost. There have been price increases in a lot of materials. But in spite of all that, with improved efficiency and maybe management of cost, we are still performing well. Thus, the overall guidance, how are we going to do in the remaining half, we still hope to see that we'll continue not growing at the rate we grow in the first half. But overall, as we guided, we should end up with something close to last year of plus/minus 5% to 8%. I mean that's what we had guided [ to seeing ], plus/minus between single digit, not high, but in single-digit level growth in bottom line and top line. So we are still hoping that will happen in the next half. Are there headwinds? Some countries have some issues. Ukraine is one. But we are still doing business, and our business still continues to do fine. We don't expect to see a lot of growth, but we still expect to see business going on. Sri Lanka is one of the problem areas. But in spite of that, we have stocks. And I think [ many LCs ] are being open, goods are going, but it won't see what it used to be years before. So we may have to wait for a year or 2 for it to return to normal. But in spite of all that, we still have products going in, and we are hoping to see that continue over the next 6 to 12 months. Myanmar is a different story. There's a long discussion on that. We will talk about it a little bit more. So before I talk a lot more about the past and the future, future, we remain very focused that by 2025, as we have promised, to double our bottom line compared to our 2019 results. Our 2019 results were about 1,200. We had projected that by '25, we should reach THB 2.4 billion to THB 2.5 billion. I think we are on course. We still remain committed that THB 2.5 billion is very, very likely will happen by '25 with all the strategies we have in place, all the work we are doing. It's all going on the right direction. So I think we will achieve that. The special growth in the period of COVID are exceptions. In spite of that, it's good sign that we are maintaining that for the last 2 years. After COVID, general consumer sentiment around the world is that a lot of these products have actually gone -- will have come down, but they have still reached a new high. So the base has increased. So that's the good thing is a lot of products, the base number of users has gone up. The general wellness consumption has gone up. So a lot of our products which are registered as medicines, C, D, not just the [ fun ] products or the products for quick business during COVID, not those, but established brands are doing well. So I think we are in good position with the right products, right categories, right countries we are in. So looking at all that, seeing our history and seeing our brands, we are, again, as I said, very confident to deliver on our long-term growth. Short-term second half can be a little bit slower. If COVID starts to reduce and die down, there will be some impact. But the good thing is all the other products still continue to do well and will continue to grow. So we remain confident that we should be able to deliver that single-digit growth in the second half and overall for the year 2022. So I will stop here for the moment. [Foreign Language] Khun Francis will give you the background and the details of the financial statement for the half year and the quarter, and then we'll open up to Q&A. [Foreign Language] Khun Francis, over to you.

Francis Rego

executive
#2

Thank you, sir. Good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of Mega Lifesciences, I will be taking you through Mega Lifesciences' H1 '22 performance and quarter 2 '22 performance. In H1 '22, overall revenue was THB 7.75 billion, reflecting a growth of 12.9% on Y-o-Y basis. Brands grew by 23.7%. All regions performed well. Southeast Asia, which constitutes 79.3% of the branded business, grew by 25.8%, while Africa grew by 23.6%. Distribution business grew by 3.5% on Y-o-Y basis. Overall, Mega We Care segment contributed to 51% of the total revenue as against 46.6% in H1 '21, while Maxxcare contributed to 47% of the total revenue as against 51.3% in H1 2021. OEM business remained steady at 2%. Overall gross profit improved to 43.7% of the operating revenue in H1 '22 as compared to 40.2% in H1 '21. The growth primarily driven by the high growth in branded business, which was causing a favorable revenue mix and better segmental gross margins. Mega We Care gross margins were 68% in H1 '22 as against 65.6% in H1 2021. Maxxcare gross margins remained steady at 17.5% in H1 2022 as against 17.2% in H1 2021. Overall net margin of Maxxcare business remained steady at 48.7%. SG&A expenses stood at 26.7% of the operating revenue for H1 '22, similar to H1 '21 where the SG&A expenses stood at 26.1%. Reported net profits were THB 1.182 billion, reflecting a growth of 41.5% in H1 '22. Adjusted net profits were THB 1.191 billion, reflecting a growth of 40% in H1 '22. Adjustments to net profits are arising out of currency gains and losses, losses from new businesses which are investments in future and material nonrecurring items of income and expenses. Overall, operating cash flows were THB 826 million, representing 70% of the net profits. We continue to be a net cash company with a very strong balance sheet. On the CapEx front, we have spent THB 187 million towards CapEx in H1 '22 with majority of the spending, THB 135 million, spent towards consolidation of manufacturing operations and capacity expansion in Thailand. On the new product side, over and above the 16 new unique products which we had launched in 2021, we plan to launch 26 new unique products in FY '22, 12 products in the nutraceutical category and 14 products in the prescription products category. On the second quarter '22 performance, overall revenue was THB 3.93 billion in second quarter '22, reflecting a growth of 9.3% on Y-o-Y basis. Brands grew by 16%. The distribution business grew by 4.6% on Y-o-Y basis. On the gross profits, overall, in second quarter '22, gross profit improved to 42.6% of the operating revenue as compared to 41.9% in second quarter '21. Mega We Care gross margins improved to 66.9% as against 66.8% in second quarter 2021. Maxxcare gross margins were 16.3% as against 17.7% in quarter 2 2021. Overall SG&A expenses stood at 27.6% of the operating revenue as compared to 26.5% of the operating revenue in quarter 2 2021. Reported net profits were THB 569 million, reflecting a growth of 13.3% in quarter 2. Adjusted net profits were THB 557 million, reflecting a growth of 15.2% in second quarter 2022. Going forward, apart from the 26 new products which we plan to launch in year '22, we also have 186 new products which are underdevelopment and which will be launched in the years to come. On the CapEx side, over and above the routine maintenance CapEx of $2 million to $3 million a year, we are also expecting to spend THB 506 million in the next 2 years, out of which THB 295 million will be spent towards consolidation of manufacturing operations and capacity expansion in Thailand and THB 46 million will be spent towards ESG. We also plan to spend THB 165 million towards adding new dosage form, warehouse and plant upgradation in our newly acquired Indonesian manufacturing plant. With this, I open the forum for Q&A, and we request you to give your name and the name of the institution that you represent. Thank you.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#3

Thank you. Yes, please. I think Francis has covered most of the things [ I agree ]. And I think we have also talked about our ESG in the last session, explained what we are doing. And that's an initiative we have started for real purposes. Mega has been doing it for a long time. We use solar. We do a lot of variable motors, LED lighting for a long time. So we are there in many, many ways. We use single-use plastic. Our carbon footprint is very, very low anywhere around the world. So we do everything possible to run a good, clean, governed plant. We have a very high female-to-male ratio. We have [ hedge in ] businesses across. [ We're heavy ] not just in common workman places. So we have a very diverse and a very open environment in terms of governance. We are -- we've been doing this for 35 years. We have very little legal or issues with any government. I mean there are things that happen which are beyond our control or things we didn't know, but not by design. So as a company, we've been governed and made a practice of living our life. We are doing that CapEx, you know already. Indonesia is one area we are building a soft gel line, which will be -- we have to start the design and the construction work. So that's in progress. Other than that, there is no major initiative, except the factory that we're building in Thailand, which should be ready by the end of the year, the new section. And so we can move the old plant here. But no major expansion but new dosage forms in liquids and sachets and all of that, that we are doing. And some expansion in facility and capacity in Australia where we do a lot of our sachet and probiotic products. So that's largely -- and most of the investments are in new products; new doses; and the countries where we are investing and building a stronger Mega We Care and the We Care brand through our wellness We Care facilities where we do a lot of work in rehabilitation, disease management, lifestyle management; and then our digital work that we are doing not only to monetize but to reach our patients and doctors to health at home. And they are all connected into one ecosystem where we are doing things in many markets on diabetes, mother and child programs and connecting the consumer with the doctor and with their advisory services on health. So all this work is going on, and that's how we are planning to build a strong We Care brand, which is sustainable and can continue to deliver growth. In spite of the hiccups in the world market, we believe we are on the right track. And given some time with all these things happening, we should achieve our goals of that THB 2.5 billion or more by '25. I have nothing more to add, and I think I'm going to leave the floor now to questions. When I could preempt some of them and explain some of them, I'm sure those questions will come again. So better you ask and we shall answer. All right? [Foreign Language] Okay. Open to your questions, please.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#4

Khun Vivek, this is Yuwanee from Maybank. I have a few questions. The first is on the second quarter. We saw that the gross margin declined Q-on-Q for both branded and distribution. Do you have any color on that or any explanation why is that?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#5

Gross margin?

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#6

Declined Q-on-Q.

Thomas Abraham

executive
#7

If you see on the branded business, gross margins are more or less stable. I think from 68 point something, that's dropped down to 67%. But we have always guided that this is not a sustainable level of gross margin for branded business. If you look at us historically, our gross margins have been in the 63% to 65% range. So we expect our gross margins to settle down at that range as we go along. What we are seeing this year is the high capacity utilization is leading to this high gross margins. And we feel that with cost inflation, everything going up slowly. Slowly, our gross margins will settle down to that 65%, 63% range. So our guidance on this remains the same that we have been saying that before. On the distribution side, I think there has been a change in product mix during this quarter. But fundamentally, the gross margins of 17.5%, I think by end of the year, we will still come to that. So it's quarter-to-quarter based on changes in products and, in principle, mix, this can change. So we don't expect -- nothing has changed fundamentally. You can see that despite all the challenges in Myanmar, our distribution business is still flat as we had guided. I mean we had actually guided a negative growth, but that is still not happened. We still were able to maintain the top line and the profitability as well. And we expect the gross margins to stabilize towards historical levels or at least towards last year's levels by end of the year. Thank you.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#8

By stabilizing, you mean quarter-on-quarter, third quarter will decline? Or do you think...

Thomas Abraham

executive
#9

I think it will come back to last year was 17 point...

Unknown Executive

executive
#10

[ 17.1% ].

Thomas Abraham

executive
#11

And we will come back to that. I think that is the indication. Quarter 1 this year was also 17...

Unknown Executive

executive
#12

[indiscernible] 18%.

Thomas Abraham

executive
#13

18%. So I think around that 17.5% mark towards the end of the year. That's what we expect.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#14

And for branded as well? 66%?

Thomas Abraham

executive
#15

Branded, I think probably 66%, around that in the next quarter.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#16

My next question is about your guidance. You think it can grow 5% to 8%. If you break down into branded and distribution, what is the likelihood of -- what would be branded growth and what would be distribution growth?

Thomas Abraham

executive
#17

We don't really break it down into that many details, but you can see the trends. Brand is still growing at...

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#18

Branded grew in the first half by how much? 23.7%.

Thomas Abraham

executive
#19

And distribution is flat.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#20

3.5%.

Thomas Abraham

executive
#21

Yes. So if the trends continue, we are still looking at similar growth rate towards the end of the year. That's what we are guiding.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#22

But overall, we are saying 8%, 9%. So brand will go down, and the distribution maybe flat...

Unknown Executive

executive
#23

Distribution, double-digit [indiscernible].

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#24

Overall, by the end of the year, to achieve that single digit, brand will probably also come down. That's our view that the brand will probably come down. And overall, we are saying 8% to 10% -- 5% to 10%. But at the moment, we are delivering overall growth of 12.9%, 13%, right? So there will be a decline in both. Distribution is being largely affected by Myanmar, especially consumer products. And ability to import pharma may not have that big a decline, but the consumer products can have, so volume-wise. So I think the branded business should grow but will not be at the same rates in the first half, and the second half will be a little lower. So that's why our guidance is that we can be anywhere between this 5% to 10% if things look good second half because a lot of the other products, as I said, the hospitals are opened up and non-COVID products are also doing well before. Allergy, loratadine, Gofen, all of them are showing growth. So it's not just that only vitamin C is doing well. So the other products in most of our markets are also doing well. In some markets, the COVID products are still good as Thailand and Vietnam. But other than that, largely, non-COVID businesses also doing well. So we will see some traction, some things changing in the second half, and that's the view we have. And that's the view we also see in most markets as well. But the good thing is these are old-time, established brands. So they are there for a long time. They don't drop away to the bottom because they already had a strong base and now they have a new base. So we have many good signs to it. So having said that, we are still hoping that we'll grow overall and we'll achieve this single-digit growth over profit last -- over last year also.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#25

On the branded, do you see the vitamin sales went up in the second quarter as well? What -- I mean, you have medicine and I put it as vitamins. Quarter-on-quarter, it was flat. Did you see the change in the mix in that branded segment? What's happening to the vitamins post-COVID? What do you think?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#26

We had growth of vitamins also in the second quarter. It's not that we didn't grow. We grew second quarter also. But sometimes, looking at this, it's not -- when you look quarter-to-quarter, it's not a very good number because the last year quarter -- last year's second quarter may have been a very high sales. So this year's second quarter will look bad against last year's second quarter. That's how you compare, right? Last year's second quarter was the peak of COVID. There was peak of stocking up. So I think it's not a very good measure to look at quarter compared to last year's quarter, but quarter compared to the first quarter this year. Again, the consumption of many, many products in the first quarter was higher because of COVID. So the second quarter, it's a little bit down. But overall, to achieve 27% -- 23.7% growth, it has to be across the board. So it's been everything, including drugs have grown. So when we say vitamins, we have consumer health. We have probiotics. We have medical nutrition. We have herbal medicine. We have pure vitamins. So they are not all COVID-related products. We also have over-the-counter drugs: Gofen and loratadine, Loreze, ZIRIN, all these. So I think all of them have shown growth, but the vitamin part and some of our cold cough medicine, EUGICA, had also grown. So that's also shown growth. So we see -- when we see growth here, we are growing over the whole half. I mean I don't know. But just quarter-to-quarter, between first quarter, second quarter is lower growth.

Unknown Executive

executive
#27

Yes. So our branded business [indiscernible].

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#28

Still grow. But compared to first quarter is...

Unknown Executive

executive
#29

[ Highest ].

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#30

Compared to first quarter will be still higher.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#31

Okay. My last question is on Myanmar. I saw that they have a new kind of capital control. I'm not exactly sure what it means, but the 65% capital control in regards to the FX. Do you think the...

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#32

Myanmar, there are a lot of things going on. Yes, you're right. I mean there are a lot of things going on. This is a new -- [ one is they have allowed ] that you can import and buy dollar. Like in the old days, about 20 years ago when we are doing business, you can work with exporters, right? Exporters export things, and you can work with them and send money out. So that gives you the freedom to work with. So the import licenses, anyway, for pharmaceuticals are not banned, and you can still get import licenses, part 1. Part 2, exporters who export can -- you can buy from them and do -- but capital control means that 65% of it is not available. 35% of the export dollars are available for imports, right? So that's the second thing. And the third thing is you can also buy dollars in the open market. So for pharmaceutical companies, that's a good thing. In the older -- everything -- you can buy -- I mean, you can buy through these exporters. So all the export companies who are exporting goods, we can buy -- 35% of their export proceeds are available to us to buy for whatever we are importing. So that's the capital control that's coming. 65% of the money coming in cannot be -- is taken by the [ government ]...

Thomas Abraham

executive
#33

Actually, it's better because before, 100% had to be converted. Now they're allowing -- 100% had to be converted in local currency. Now they're allowing 35% to be held as dollars. So it's actually a better improvement. Also, the detail [ as to ] our response to what is happening in Myanmar, we have filed with the stock exchange. You can have a look at that, too.

Yuwanee Prommaporn

analyst
#34

Okay. Last question, how does third quarter compare to second quarter. What's your take?

Thomas Abraham

executive
#35

I think [ very difficult ].

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#36

Look at historically, fourth quarter is the biggest quarter. But last year, it was not the case. So because of COVID, we had a very, very big second quarter. Third quarter was big. Fourth quarter was not as big compared to otherwise, we -- and also, in our plan over the years, the pushing in the last quarter has gone away. So you don't see the fourth quarter as a very big quarter always. But third quarter was big. Fourth quarter was also good but not the biggest. Generally, fourth quarter is always the biggest. Second was the slowest. Historically, because of holidays and Songkran and all, second used to be the lowest.

Thomas Abraham

executive
#37

But this quarter 2 was the highest quarter 2 in the history of the company. So it's a good quarter.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#38

Quarter 2, yes. Quarter 3 is [ saying ] -- how do you see...

Unknown Executive

executive
#39

[indiscernible] quarter 1 to quarter 2.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#40

Quarter 3. How do you see quarter 3 projection?

Unknown Executive

executive
#41

[indiscernible]

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#42

I think we are still hoping that most of our countries with the branded business that we are doing. Looking at the quarter, we are seeing the overall business. We are not monitoring ourselves quarter wise. I've said that many times. I don't -- we are doing the right things, and we believe by what we are doing our business will grow and we'll have a strongest brand that you can think of in the markets we are in. And overall, we should be able to close our branded business in that 5% to 10% growth rate to the end of the year. So that's the plan, and that looks very much feasible. We are clocking in the first half, what, 13% overall growth; branded business, 27% growth. So we should be able to hit and achieve that end outcome.

Unknown Executive

executive
#43

[indiscernible]

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#44

Agree. [indiscernible] to achieve that [ 8% to 10%, you ] will decline [indiscernible].

Thanapol Jiratanakij

analyst
#45

Can you hear me?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#46

Yes, please.

Thanapol Jiratanakij

analyst
#47

This is Thanapol from CGS-CIMB. I have 2 questions. So earlier in the call you have mentioned that some of the material costs have gone up. May I know what kind of ingredient is it that went up? And what is your pricing strategy when you see some of the material costs have increased?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#48

I mean fuel is up. Common materials are up, which has an impact on common production cost, which is definite. But as you see, our production has also gone up. So because of production going up, the allocation of our gross margins has improved, right? So when our capacity utilization improves, our gross margin improves. So in effect -- and the other thing is we're also benefiting a little bit from the exchange rate coming in here. So as a company overall, we don't have to pass on a lot of the increase in cost. Freight has also gone up. So freight is generally absorbed when countries import, and we transfer it to the consumer, generally additional cost. So we don't see, what, 2%, 2.5% increase in cost overall. And in many cases, wherever prices can be changed and passed on, we do. And wherever we see overall -- on a finished product basis, probably the impact is not more than 1.5%, I think, 1.5% at the moment. Except there are -- if you look at some -- let's say, out of the 100 products, 5 products have an exceptional increase. So it's anywhere between 1.5% to 3%, 4% at the end consumer level. So some of them is a strategic decision, right, strategic decision. Do we want to keep the volumes? Or do we want to increase prices? Or are we also recovering that by adjusting for exchange rates in the countries? Some we are [ seeing ] current price in the country also for exchange rate. Some we are gaining here because our material cost is, what, 30%, in that range, 20% something, 20% to 30% total if we take freight. So the other 70% is value addition in local currencies, right? So I think we are also benefiting from that as well to some extent. So we look at the overall and then decide. At the moment, we are still doing well and benefiting from all the situations. So we have not transferred. But we monitor prices and then discuss with countries and look at pricing as a strategy and then correct prices wherever we can, wherever -- in most cases, in the old days, it is directly used to change prices in the market. So in some cases, we also decide on a case-to-case basis.

Thanapol Jiratanakij

analyst
#49

Okay. Do you see your competitors increasing their prices? Or everybody is kind of maintaining the same price?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#50

In countries where exchange rate has gone up, most people correct prices. We are seeing that every quarter, every month. When people say exchange rate, they increase prices. We also see many of them where cost of goods has gone up, they have increased prices, yes. There is a shortage of products. In some cases, material. So we were lucky we have stocks and we had no shortages. I mean most of our supply chain was very good, except a few issues. I think across the whole year, last 1.5 years, having our own manufacturing, having stocks on the ground, our supply chain and stock situation were reasonably very good, I would say. So yes, we are seeing some changes in the prices, especially if people are fully importing. Their cost in Thailand will go up if they import from America or Australian dollar, just the exchange rate and then the cost of material, both. So we are seeing changes happening in the market, but we are not taking any advantage. We are keeping our prices as far as possible stable. Other than that, there's a huge currency impact. Otherwise, our prices, I think we have not changed this heavy, and we have not changed our prices -- transfer prices. In the country's correction, they have been made for exchange rate.

Thanapol Jiratanakij

analyst
#51

And earlier, you also said that you saw some traction from Thailand and Vietnam. Is there any particular reason why these 2 countries are stronger than the rest?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#52

I said because I think Thailand and Vietnam both have had a resurgence of COVID, and they both have these additional cases of COVID in 2022. Most other countries have not had so much, and probably people are not -- have not really continued the usage of some of the vitamins that they were worried about last year, right? So in these 2 countries, there have been some resurgence and there is still a consumption going on in certain areas: cold, cough, et cetera. So there is some part also here reflected by pure COVID, which will continue to remain as I told you last time also. Some COVID business has to drop because that is based on consumer mindset, behavior that take it now, protect yourself. The other is some is becoming long-term behavior for wellness, staying healthy. So that we are also seeing that we have got a new high. When vitamin C went from 100 to 200, it didn't come back to 100. It probably came down back to 150. And so in many cases, we have got a new base because people who are taking it not regularly, who are buying it only for a reason have become more regular now and new users have come in also. So that's one thing that is also helping continuity of business. Otherwise, you would have seen what went up [ 40% ] should have come down, 40% in the last year as well. It didn't happen. So there is a strong branded business. And then the other leg is the drug leg, the over-the-counter products. All of them also are stable, right? There is not only one product range this shoots up, that comes down. The impact of that is only on that proportion. So overall, I think it's a very stable business. There is growth, but that exceptional growth will come down. That is what we have been telling you that don't expect to see exceptional growth all the time. But it's going to be a new level, and the overall business is growing. All categories are growing.

Thanapol Jiratanakij

analyst
#53

If you don't mind me asking the last question, how much of your sales can you attribute to COVID? And what type of products, what kind of your -- which of your products do consumer consume more when there is a COVID pandemic going around?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#54

There is -- I mean, I [ don't know ] how we quantify exactly how many. But there's a range of product which I think is very, very [ directed -- not directed ], people believe on vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, [ choline ] and some other areas like cold coughs, mouth spray, that we have. These people take them more regularly if they have COVID. So if you have COVID, you probably use a lozenge and a mouth spray and vitamin C and vitamin D, and all these things you take regularly during 4 weeks' time. It becomes a part of your [ package ] for a week and/or 10 days. While you are recovering, you are being recommended to take it. We have [ 7, 8, 9 ] products in that group which we think have an impact when COVID goes up. But at the same time, those products are also regularly consumed for other reasons. So we had a base which was big enough, and now it's also gone up because of COVID. So that part, some of it will come down as people don't take it, just during the time they have COVID. But there are these long COVID -- people are experiencing cough and cold for months after they have COVID. So they are continuing to have it. So there are a lot of other things that we are seeing happening with the product then. Immunity building, vitamin D has become a very regular part of our regular usage because of the benefits of vitamin D in terms of immunity, in terms of -- a lot of other diseases: bones, joint health. So I think the knowledge of all these products have also grown, and they're also being consumed more regularly compared to what we had before. The number of users have gone up. Regular users have gone up, regularity, more of continuous use. And new users have come in. We had old users who [ were eating ]. We have got new users, and we have got people who are not using it regularly have become more regular. So I think these are the things that we are seeing. And as we go along, a lot of it is also based on data and analysis by research companies, and we are seeing some trends. So we'll know more in the next 6 months. But look, the size is very good because we have a very, I would say, a very spread out base. It's not only 10 products, right? We don't -- we have 170, 180 products. We have a huge drug pipeline, which is purely pharmaceutical, nothing to do with COVID. We are not doing molnupiravir, favipiravir or remdesivir, we don't have. We are doing only pure drugs. So I think that's also growing. So all these are very good strong legs to live on.

Unknown Executive

executive
#55

We have a question on the chat box. I'll just read it also. Can you help to talk a bit more on the Myanmar issue, how Mega manages the risk? Is there any change in strategy or operational procedure to continue doing business as normal?

Thomas Abraham

executive
#56

Vivek said [indiscernible].

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#57

There is a report that has been put up in the website. And I think that on Myanmar situation, we wrote a document and made it available on the website. Myanmar situation is difficult for everybody. We all know that. Mega has been in this country for the last 25 years. Since I started -- we started about '93. Today is 2023. So sorry, it's nearly 30 years. We have gone through this before. At the moment, their fining of dollars is to do with export money coming in, and pharmaceuticals is not on the top of the list. They -- also, pharmaceuticals generally are allowed to be imported. So we still continue to import and sell pharmaceuticals, and pharmaceuticals contribute to more than 80% of our, what we call, profitability and bottom line. So we are confident that we will [ be there ]. Our structure remains in place. We still deliver. There are only some parts of the country where we cannot go to, which we are not going. But other than that, our delivery, our storage, our import services continue to work and products are made available in the market. And the first 6 months are also shown that our business continues to carry on. So we have changed no position. Yes, how we manage, we are more careful. We stock on the ground, and we make sure we send money out, all these things we are doing. So making sure we are very careful in how we operate in the country. Other than that, I think there is no change. Our commitment to Myanmar remains as strong as it was. And I can assure you, all the partners who we represent also are all there. Nobody has left. All our [ pharmaceutical ] partners are still in the country, and they are still operating in the country along with us and are ready to continue doing business in Myanmar, because we also represent companies who are in the pharma business there.

Unknown Executive

executive
#58

Any more questions?

Thanapol Jiratanakij

analyst
#59

Can I ask another question on Maxxcare? So since a lot has happened in Myanmar, and I know you can manage the risk in the country, but so far, what have your customer response been? I understand that most of your customers are MNCs. What is the typical response from them?

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#60

In the pharma business, we have -- we don't have many MNCs. We have a few, and they are with us -- they are in the country for the last 30 years. So they are still there, still operating and still continue to do business, no change. All the other generic -- what we call, branded generic companies are still very bullish. They still have their teams on the ground, no change. So no change. The consumer companies are still operating. All of them are operating. They still continue to do business. Nobody -- I hear nobody has left. They are still operating in the market, the ones we work with, and they are discussing on ways how to -- a lot of them have operations in Thailand, and the Thailand land route is allowed for trade. So they are all working on ways to do trade through Thailand land route as well. So I think we have partners who are committed to Myanmar. We have not yet had anybody who has said we are leaving the country, not yet, at least not in our portfolio. I don't know. Unless something will happen in a day or 2, I don't know about. But have you heard anybody who's given us notice to leave? No. We have not had any of our clients both in the consumer and pharma who have decided to quit Myanmar.

Unknown Executive

executive
#61

There's another question which says, "With your expertise and experience, any chance to win additional [ principals ]?"

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#62

Yes. That's a good thing that we are still there, but I think the key at the moment is to keep what we have, ensure the supplies are regular, because we cover most of the areas in the country. If we can do well and grow what we have, that is the one strongest thing we can do in this environment, to ensure supply availability, consistency on our product, maintaining prices, et cetera. So I think that's the first part. Second, I'm sure there are many partners. We are also looking at things we can do in Myanmar more, not less, now. We have some ideas we are evaluating. [ Principals ] are -- some of them are also looking for partners who are trying to look for. We are also discussing. But these are times when we have to really understand and evaluate. As you said -- you're right. There may be opportunities that may happen if they come our way and they're right. We are -- definitely, we are there, we are talking and we are looking at all these things as they come our way, yes.

Unknown Executive

executive
#63

If there are no more questions, then we would like to close this call. We'll wait for another 2 minutes.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#64

All right. Ladies and gentlemen, investors, all our funds who are joined us for this call, I wish to thank you so much for your understanding, your time you take, and hope we continue to deliver on your promise. We are doing our best we promise you. There's one...

Unknown Executive

executive
#65

So is [ that Andrew ]?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#66

It is. Sorry. Quick question. You've mentioned in the past that the weakness in the Thai baht has helped you. Can you just sort of provide a bit more clarity in terms of how it helps and what the magnitude of it is in terms of your results at the moment?

Thomas Abraham

executive
#67

I think -- see, on an average, we feel 6% to 8% on revenue, on top line impact, and on the bottom line, 3% or thereabout. That's our estimate.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#68

6% to 8% on revenue...

Thomas Abraham

executive
#69

On the revenue, and bottom line -- 3% to 4% on the bottom line, yes.

Vivek Dhawan

executive
#70

So if there are no more questions, I want to thank all of you again. [Foreign Language] Till we meet again next quarter. We hope things will continue, and we'll continue to develop and grow our business in the right direction. We are not quarter focused, as we keep telling you. We are building brands in many countries. We have done that over the last 25 years in Thailand, Asia. And now we are also doing the same thing in sub-Saharan Africa, some parts of Latin America. And things are good. I can assure you that our brands are very strong wherever we are. You'll be happy that Mega brands are well known and respected for what we do in these markets. And we are continuing to do that and build a strong, long term, sustainable company that will live and grow beyond us. So once again, thank you very much. Till we meet again. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Executive

executive
#71

Thank you.

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