Mister Car Wash, Inc. (MCW) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

December 1, 2021

US Consumer Discretionary Diversified Consumer Services conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#1

Hi, everyone. It is Simeon Gutman, Morgan Stanley's hardline, broadline and food retail analyst, and it is my distinct pleasure to welcome Mister Car Wash inaugural visit to our conference. We are represented by John Lai, President, CEO and Chairperson of the Board; and Mr. Jed Gold, Chief Financial Officer. Sorry, Jed, if there weren't multiple titles.

John Lai

executive
#2

Simeon, you forgot Chief Bottle Washer as well.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#3

We'll get into that. Maybe that will be my first question. I have a quick disclosure to run off, and then we'll get right into the questions and answers. First, for important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. With that, we're clear to have a conversation. First, again, welcome. I'm glad to have you hope your fixture in this conference for every year we hosted going forward.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#4

John, let me ask you to start about competitive landscape. Maybe just paint the broad strokes, how the car wash business is across the country, competitive-wise, increasing, decreasing or staying about the same?

John Lai

executive
#5

Terrific. Well, thank you, Simeon. It's our pleasure and honor to be invited to this conference. We wish it was in-person. I always get energized by Manhattan in the great state of New York. So Zoom have to do, but hopefully, next year, we'll have an opportunity to do this face-to-face. So big picture, the industry is a very fragmented category, primarily driven by mom-and-pop independent investors. We have, by our own conservative estimations, less than 5% market share. We enjoyed 365 stores today, and we've been growing at a very rapid clip. The industry is in consolidation mode. It's also in growth mode. So there's new units being added daily. But there's also folks that are looking to build out and strengthen their position within each region. We're in that same mode as well. So when you look at the 21 states that we're in today, the 65 MSAs that we're in. We have on average, about a 21% market share. And our opportunity to continue to scale and grow inside our existing markets in our own backyard is right in front of us. We have certain markets like Bakersfield, California or Des Moines, Iowa; El Paso, Texas, where we enjoy an elevated market share of north of 50% and we see elevated performance as a result of that. And so that's emboldening us to continue to expand and increase our penetration in those markets, while we continue to remain opportunistic and very aggressive in looking at going into new markets as well. So the competitive landscape, if you look at the top 20 folks below us, there -- I'm going to say, 90% of them have some form of institutional capital/financial sponsorship. And so they're well capitalized, and they're looking to attempt to replicate doing what we are doing as well. And so things have gotten a little bit more competitive from an M&A perspective as more people are bidding on fewer quality assets. I think the difference in our approach has been focusing on quality, not quantity and making sure that we're buying really good businesses that have great upside potential that strategically are complementary to what our growth vision is. And at the end of the day, what we're attempting to build is this premier brand, this premier service, an enduring company with long-term value, and we're not in this just to roll up or consolidate.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#6

Thanks for that, John. And I regrettably forgot to include maybe my own intro not that anyone wants to hear from us, but this is a truly special business across our entire consumer spectrum, not just in terms of retailers, but in terms of service companies. And I think there is a real culture, which you can say there can be a culture in a car wash business, but I think there is and a real focus on excellence and acumen. And I couldn't believe the level of detail, the angle of the curve, the thickness of the brush, even how you clean the interior of your own, how you construct it so that it's easy to clean for your own sake anyway.

John Lai

executive
#7

But Simeon, if I could add to that, though, so there's the technical, mechanical automation and all the things that we do to process cars quickly and efficiently. I think the magic, though, is through our team members, and we are at the very, very core, a consumer service provider. And by definition, customer service is a piece of that equation. And when most people think of car washing, they think of it through more of a utilitarian clean dry and shiny done quickly, where we're able to differentiate through our 6,500 amazing employees is this elevated level of customer service. We've barred from Danny Meyer at Union Square Hospitality, this notion of hospitality as a key piece of our value prop. And so what we've done is taking care of our team members who take care of our customers, and we're treating them well. We're paying them well. We're offering them full benefits and there's great career path progression. But as a result, we have this magic in-store that you have to experience and you have to go out and feel it.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#8

Yes. And by the way, I'm going to piggyback. I -- we have, and we've gone through other car wash and there was nothing like it. And I wish the video on my phone would work or also can give a little example. I'm going to pivot a little bit. It's not going to be a curve ball, but you said Bakersfield and Des Moines. And if you could just -- if you can relate -- if you can make the rest of the chain, look like Bakersfield or Des Moines, we can have a pretty short discussion. Meaning can we get to 50% market share? Is that a real vision? How do you get there in those markets? And maybe answering that would answer a lot of questions.

John Lai

executive
#9

Sure. So we are on our bikes pedaling very quickly right now to build out and continue to expand our greenfield growth initiative. And we have done extremely well with that arm of our unit growth strategy. As you know getting to where we are today, the bulk of our portfolio has been built through M&A. But as we got to a certain point using El Paso as an example, where there weren't any additional attractive acquisition opportunities that we felt made strategic sense, we needed to build. And as we started to build out to provide more optionality for our customers, we saw this all boats rise the tide in this elevated performance, which is a beautiful thing. And so again, that's emboldening us to not just double down, but triple down on this greenfield development arm while we remain acquisitive, continuing to look for good acquisition opportunities. So the question that you pose is, is it realistic to get to a -- let me stop and say, 100% market share is not the objective, right? So not all businesses make sense for us to acquire. But we think 50% is a good number. It's a target for us. And if we have today, this opportunity to double our footprint in our backyard, in our existing markets, that's pretty cool while we continue to look to move into new markets.

Jedidiah Gold

executive
#10

And Simeon, the one thing I would add there, right, I think it's important when you look at the limiting factors, it really centered around the people. And so we've -- as you've heard us talk about before, we quadrupled the size of the development team here recently. We have more people focused on finding sites, building these sites. But then also the investment that we highlighted on our Q3 call, we're investing in the pipeline of talent that's going to help operate these new builds as we operate, as we open them, right? And then going even 1-layer deeper, some of the investments that we're making around Mister or which is a part of online learning platform to help with the training and development of this future pit pipeline. We've got a Mister specific curriculum that their team members will go through. And then another one as we called Mister Connect. It's a mobile platform that allows our team members to go on and share best practices across the portfolio. Also a way for us to cascade information and highlight and recognize our team members, which is also a big part of the culture and who we are at Mister as well.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#11

Random question for you, John. If I -- you could have had the absolute best location, best corner, best sight line off of an intersection or you'll be a mile away and the service level at that while away is better than that even perfect location. Meaning is it location? Or is it service do you think at the end of the day, that why your share is as high as it is in those markets?

John Lai

executive
#12

Yes. So let me be very precise. Hard corns for us are not ideal in car wash space. Typically, there's impediments to ingress, egress and flow depending upon what side of the corner you're on. So after the light, it's a little easier, but oftentimes, it creates some congestion challenges because we need to be able to get people on and off elegantly and swiftly. So mid-block locations typically are actually more ideal, which is a little counterintuitive when you think of retail because I won't think the hard corners are always the best spots. But at the end of the day, to answer your question, location, location, location is absolutely critical. But once you get that location and you've built a beautiful physical plant to be able to process a lot of cars, you then need to be able to operate it. And I think this is where we excel. We have, Simeon, 25 years of experience. We have built this organization 1 person at a time. And we have now this operations infrastructure that is second to none. We believe in what we call close coverage and close ratio. So we have a 6:1 regional manager to store ratio. We have 2 stores for every facility maintenance technician. We have in-market regional development specialists, regional training specialists. So what we're doing is we're not building out this organization, this infrastructure at the ivory tower level. We're building out at the regional level, so we have these regional hubs of close coverage support to help develop our teams. And that gives us a huge competitive advantage because that strength and when you see how well we execute is because we have this team in place that focuses on all those fundamentals, right? Clean dry and shining, training our team members, supporting our team members and allowing them -- it's ultimately making their jobs easier, so they can focus on servicing our customers, where there's other models where the managers are expected to be technicians. And if something were to break, they have to jump into the conveyor and fix it. We've taken a lot of the pressure off of our site leaders so that they can focus on people, customers and our team members less on the mechanical side.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#13

And because the car wash industry now has so much attention, and you mentioned the private equity that's involved. Given that level of investment, are you -- first, the level of competition, is it getting better, but they're clearly investing in sites and they're maybe taking up spots that you would have eventually have gotten to. So does that create any impediment or a limiting factor in the market share that you can ultimately take?

John Lai

executive
#14

Yes. So right now, there's a race in almost every market as others are trying to build out their share. And so we're in that similar race. And we think we've got first mover's advantage, but we've been at this for a while. And so sometimes those that have more experience and a little bit longer lead time with that come some advantages. But we're not resting on laurels, and we see some really good competitors that are doing some really beautiful things, and we have the utmost respect for them. And so we're focusing on what we know our customers love, which, again, is the fundamental tenets, which are easy to articulate, hard to execute upon. But we're doing that, and we're doing that daily. And I will say this that -- sorry for the background noise. But the one thing that I hear time and time again -- and for us, the table stakes are quality, right? So we have to get that clean dry shiny car. We have to do it very quickly and efficiently and efficiency is we all see businesses that are run really, really well. And we also see stores that are sometimes clusters. We would like to be seen as the former. Aesthetically, our stores are in a beautiful shape. We understand the benefits of curb appeal and site cleanliness. But what we hear time and time again is how do you get your team members to smile? How do you get your team members to walk with a sense of purpose and a quick clip and to engage with our customers? And what we tell folks is that we're not doing it by cracking the web or putting up smile posters in the break room. We're doing it by treating them well. And so if Costco is viewed as one of the kind of the gold standards for employee engagement, our goal is to try to get to that level. And what does Costco do really well? They pay their people well and they treat their people well. And those are very simple principles that we subscribe to as well.

Jedidiah Gold

executive
#15

And Simeon, if I can just jump in there and add, right? So we can't overstate it enough. Not all car washes are created equal. And so to John's point, the investment that we make, starting with our team members, that will then translate into a superior consumer experience, but then also some of the investments that we're making from a growth CapEx perspective, on average, we're investing about $100,000 per location. We're investing behind the maintenance to make sure that they upkeep and that our washes are continuously operating. And then as you know, we -- when we acquire these washes, we convert everything that we acquire to a Mister, put it under a standard banner. We're building a national brand. And then going even 1-level deeper, right? The science behind the wash and the team that we have behind that and the science behind the regional upkeep and maintenance, there. It's about doing a lot of little things right. And you touched on it in your opening remarks, the attention to detail and doing those things, those little things right, ultimately add up and provide a point of differentiation for our consumers.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#16

Great. So I think the 2 stools or legs to this story, the way the financial model will play out is you're going to open stores and I think you're going to grow memberships. I think those 2 things happen. I mean the market share will take care of itself. The quality is already in place. So maybe let's start with opening stores. Maybe just to frame it, how -- what's your target? And then how does M&A play into it? And I know, John, you get this all the time, you're not afraid to do something if it presents itself, but might you end up doing something bigger than you thought if it makes sense at some point, and how the opening is going? So that -- let's just stick on footage growth and acquisition growth?

John Lai

executive
#17

Yes. So let me start on the M&A front. And so we have been highly acquisitive historically, getting to 360 locations. We've done over 100 deals to get there. And we remain very optimistic and aggressive in pursuing good assets that have good upside potential. As others are rolling up and consolidating on a regional basis, there's some -- there's a notion or there's some conversation about is there a potential for us to combine forces and would it make strategic sense for us to either complementary fit or to strengthen our position in a market that we're already in with another platform where we were to come together, and we'll certainly continue to look at those opportunities. And if we can make it work, we would be happy to. But on the greenfield front, that's certainly something that's more predictable and it's more consistent, and it's not quite as lumpy as the M&A front. But it's ones where we can build the stores to our specifications, right? And the mousetrap that we have designed has been based on the learns over the last 100 businesses that we've acquired, and we've baked that into this new prototype that is really set up for volume. And so as we're doing really, really well on the greenfield front, it's really evolving us to not just double down but triple down on that effort while we continue to look at acquisition opportunities.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#18

Sorry, Jed, if you want to say something.

Jedidiah Gold

executive
#19

I was just going to -- just from a target perspective, Simeon, just to make sure we lose out on that. So when we look at the target for this year, we're targeting 16 to 18 greenfields. Going back in time, we did 4 in 2018, 4 in 2019, 12 in 2020. So we're making the investments, we're ramping this up. As we look ahead to 2022, we believe that there's a little bit of upside at this point. We categorize it as a handful, but we'll provide further guidance on our Q4 call. From an M&A perspective, the way that we're talking about that is 50 acquisitions -- 50 stores over 5 years, so built into the bottle of 10 per year. Some years, it's going to be higher. Some years, it's going to be a little bit lower. To John's point, though, we're not in the business of just aggregating. We're not going to chase a number just for the sake of chasing a number. But there may be some acquisitions where it makes sense for us to lean in a little bit if strategically it fits into the broader portfolio, bolsters our position, helps facilitate and build out the network effect and you've heard us talk about giving our consumers just that many more locations within the market where they can access our services.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#20

And what are you learning about -- like what are you learning about the greenfield openings about yourself as far as pacing it? Are you finding it more challenging, standing up a pipeline? Is it going smoother? And then John, the proverbial, can you go fast? Not why won't you go faster, but can you go faster because you said it's a race?

John Lai

executive
#21

Yes. So I think as we look at it, there's 2 concurrent paths that are parallel paths that are absolutely critical to this growth equation. One is our ability, from a construction and development standpoint, to build them correctly. So sourcing the real estate is not as challenging as it is on the building front and building really is just a new muscle for us. It's not rocket science, but we're having to build out that resource, and we're building that out very quickly as we speak, so that we can continue this kind of stair-step growth year-over-year. The other piece of the equation though, which is probably even more important is once you build them, you have to run them, right? And operating a store, I don't want to sound overly simplistic, but building is easier than running them. And when you -- and what we have is these elevated AUVs, we have to have the right team members that we can plug in, the right leadership. So we have been making material investments in our management training program through our operations leadership program. We have now over 200 MITs in our pipeline, which is up from 50 about a year ago. So we've quadrupled the size of our MIT pipeline, and that's a significant investment, that Simeon is front-end loaded, okay, which does put a little bit of near-term pressure on margins. But we're not in a margin expansion mode, we're in growth mode. So we're making those upfront investments in our team members so that we can continue to grow at this accelerated pace of store growth. Because if we open them up and they -- we don't have the team to deliver that exceptional experience, things will start to wane, and that's when things will become less fun. So we're very, very focused on both of those.

Jedidiah Gold

executive
#22

Yes. This isn't a business, Simeon, that is capital constrained in any way. The limiting factor is -- when you look at the free cash flow conversion, which we define as EBITDA less the nondiscretionary income, it's about 90%. And so there's lot of cash that's just being generated that we're able to take and reinvest in the business, but it's doing it the right way and with the right team members, right? People, at that heart of that is a good consumer experience.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#23

Yes. And when you deal with towns and municipalities and cities to get -- to be zoned for car wash, I'm making my own example, we all have a spot, hey, down the corner. Oh, that's great. We're going to start and it never happens. But how complicated is it to get that pipeline and to know that you might have to wait some time for a site to get approved or zoned -- anyway can you speak to that?

John Lai

executive
#24

I think it's municipality specific, and there are certain pockets. So to overgeneralize, rural America is easier than urban, right? And so when you get into more concentrated pockets in certain neighborhoods that we may run into some nimby kind of mindset or the planning department may be a little bit slower afoot. I think one of the challenges we've seen coming out of COVID is that so many of the planning departments from a permitting standpoint are stretched thin, they're all working remotely. And so there's lags in our ability to get those approvals. But we're actually building out a team to be able to expedite that permitting process. But up until now, we haven't seen that as an impediment to growth. and we're continuing to -- I've heard stories, we're not in Boston, but I've heard stories about how difficult it is to get a permit in Boston. Fortunately, we haven't experienced that.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#25

Okay. I think we'll move off of expansion and let's talk about membership. Maybe just to set it up, if we take Bakersfield or Des Moines, where is the membership penetration? And maybe should those be the standards for which we expect the rest of the business? And I'm assuming you're still growing in those markets, too?

John Lai

executive
#26

We are. So when you look at our average number of members per store, we enjoy a little over 4,000 Unlimited Wash Club members, which we're very proud of. And as you know, that represents about 65% of our overall revenue, a little close to 70% of our total volume. But the predictable recurring high-margin, great lifetime value lift that we enjoy from that member base has been our primary focus. And so we have been and continue to be in member growth mode. And so when you reference a Bakersfield or in El Paso, where we're north of 7,000, 8,000 members per store in those regions. Again, it's kind of -- as we kind of connect the dots, we're saying, hey, where we have north of 50% share where we have these well-designed physical plants that can process lots of cars, let's continue down that path and let's see if we can replicate that. So we're continuing to see beautiful natural healthy growth. We had this unusual spike, by the way, in the first half of this year where, as we've shared on some of the earnings calls, we grew our net member base by over 300,000 members. Simeon, that was kind of an anomaly, right? That was an unusually high number, and we're proud of that number. But I think we're more comfortable with what we call the slower burn. And our approach to articulating the features and benefits of the program to our regular retail customers, we use the word educate and inform. We don't even use the word sell inside of our organization. We don't have a commission plan for our frontline staff. We want them to allow the customer to make an informed decision on their own time. And so oftentimes, as we explain how the program works and the value of the program, we'll see on the second or third visit that regular retail customer will say, "You know what, I'll go ahead and give that a shot for $1,999 or $2,999, go ahead and sign me up. And that's been a really nice, sticky way to build a really strong loyal member base. And today, with over 1.5 million members has been absolutely the game changer for our entire business.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#27

65% of REV as an average, what's the high watermark across the chain?

John Lai

executive
#28

We have some stores that are pushing 85%. And when you get to that level, the question is how many more members can we grow? I don't have the answer to that rhetorical question because you get to a point and I'll use a case study in El Paso, where we had a store called Dyer that had north of 12,000 members and it was one of our highest performing locations. We built a new location called Hondo Pass, roughly 2 miles away from the Dyer location. There was some initial cannibalization where I think 1,000 members were transferred over because they felt that, that location was closer to their home and/or work. But what that did was take pressure off of Dyer, the mother ship, if you will, and that allowed Dyer to continue to grow their member base, while the Hondo Pass location has just been on this beautiful growth rate. So it's not -- as we talk about penetration, densification, or fortressing and building out our market, we don't know the high watermark is going to be. We do know that in certain stores, when we focus on quality and we focus on speed, there's a certain high watermark where you just can't wash more than 200 cars per hour safely or effectively. And in certain locations, we have a store in Eden Prairie, Minnesota, that's kind of at that high watermark, close to capacity. Really what we should be doing is building another Hondo Pass right next to that location. And I probably tip my hands to all my competitors by saying that. But that's been our focus right now. Let's proactively defend and also be on the offensive in the markets that we're in and make sure that we're not leaving any cars on the table.

Jedidiah Gold

executive
#29

And Simeon, just one other point there, when we look at the total portfolio, about 5% of our stores were at or north of that 80% that John referenced. So there's still a tremendous amount of growth and opportunity ahead of us.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#30

And John, you've never tried making a location member only?

John Lai

executive
#31

Radical concept. I think the lifeblood of -- we've talked about it, but the lifeblood of our growth has got to be new members or new customers coming in the door. So what is that healthy mix? We don't know, quite frankly, because we're kind of redefining it as we continue to grow and rediscover. Back in the day, we used to have birthday cakes and celebrations around a store hitting 3,000 members, then we realized sometimes those targets can actually limit your growth potential. So we continue to kick down the door and set new high watermarks almost daily and goal setting. Accurate goal setting is very difficult. And I was speaking to an analyst when I say that, but it's very, very hard for us to predict the future. So we're just going to continue doing what we do and growing our member base. But I think one of the things that we're at kind of that point in our life cycle where if you were to ask me what is our customer acquisition cost or what do we spend on advertising? It's very little today. And that old adage of before you go out and acquire a customer, are you doing as much with your existing customers as you can? And the answer up until now has been no, we have this beautiful opportunity to take what we define as regular retail customers and get them into our membership plan. But at a certain point, we'll need to do some more awareness campaigns and some trial campaigns and in the markets that we're referencing is kind of the rock star markets, those are probably good markets for us to start testing some things.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#32

So we have 5 minutes. I have 2 topics or 2 questions, and then I'll put the onus on you to get them answered within the 5 minutes. The 2 pillars or questions are, one, on pricing. The Unlimited Wash Club has been somewhat of a sacred cow as far as pricing goes. To think about how that interplays in what is an inflationary environment. And then the second topic is Tyson over time, it's margin. And you said we're in growth mode, we're not about margin. But where does the margin of this business should naturally lay out over time? Those are the sort of the 2 questions.

John Lai

executive
#33

Okay. So again, just to restate, we are in member growth mode, unit growth owned. We have not been in margin expansion mode or revenue maximization mode at all. So we've been very, very conservative from a pricing standpoint. One could argue unnecessarily conservative. Simeon, we have pricing power, right? That we could deploy should we so choose, but where we come to the table kicking and screaming every single time and used to see some of the internal debates around pricing and the art of pricing. But the most recent move we made, which is a very incremental move on our retail in November was modest, right? It was roughly a 7% increase to retail, which represents, again, that 25% -- 20% our business-ish. And we think that, that -- and so that, on average, it was an express based price point of $7, that moved to $8. Very reasonable pass-through where many of our competitors are at $9 or $10 already. Not criticizing their decision, that's their choice, but we are -- the fact that we have some gas in our tank on retail, we're happy with. But to your real question, which is the $1,999, $2,999 price points, we haven't taken a price increase since inception in those programs. And we think that as we raise our retail price, that value ratio between regular retail and Unlimited Wash Club, there's greater value in the consumer's mind. And so we're not in any -- today, where we have no plans to take a price increase on Unlimited Wash Club. We're going to continue on the trajectory of member growth. And our margin profile -- when you look at the first half, and we had this beautiful spike, right? Where it went up to the mid-30s. And once we deliver mid-30s, Simeon you say, I want more, I want more, and I'm like take it easy. We think a low 30s is a good number, a healthy number. It wasn't that long ago when we were going from 19% to 20% margins, but we're doing it all through volume growth, not through pricing, definitely not through cost squeezing our staffing model. And so we're going to continue on this path. We have this beautiful opportunity in front of us to continue building out and we're 365 stores strong today. We feel we can triple our footprint. And when we get to 1,000 stores, Jed will pat me on the head and say, 1,000, you're not thinking big enough, was not to suggest that we can get even bigger. We want to be very intentional. We want to make sure that we're not growing too quickly, again, where our standards perhaps would start to wane. And we've seen other -- in other industries, other companies that have scaled way too fast they didn't have the infrastructure to support it. And that customer experience is starting to get negatively impacted. We are determined not to let that happen in Mister Car Wash.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#34

Well, you got it under the gun. Hey, can I ask you, John, this is totally random off-the-beat bet. You were at an industry show a couple of weeks ago. Anything you learned that was interesting as far as growth, as far as technology? Was there anything need?

John Lai

executive
#35

Well, it was interesting to see. We call them the Blue Coats, but all the institutional capital guys that we're milling around. So lots of private equity. I call it the mosh pit, but it's typically at night and some of the industry social events where things get really -- but it was fascinating to see how many folks are pursuing the next great platform. And we feel very fortunate that we have kind of this lead in that we started many, many years ago. And for us, it's not -- so acquiring a business is not that difficult, right? It's what you do with it after you buy it. And so as an operations-driven company, a company that would like to see ourselves is very focused on operational excellence. That's taken us 20-plus years to build out that muscle and you can't replicate that overnight. So that is our ultimate competitive advantage. And it's why we're delivering such great results at store level.

Simeon Gutman

analyst
#36

Awesome. Well, thank you very much, John, Jed. Congratulations on the success so far. Good luck. Have a happy holiday season and look forward to keeping in touch.

John Lai

executive
#37

Thank you so much.

Jedidiah Gold

executive
#38

Thanks, Simeon.

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