MMG Limited (1208) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 25, 2023

Hong Kong Stock Exchange HK Materials Metals and Mining operating_results 26 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the MMG Limited Second Quarter Production Report. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to hand the conference over to Jarod Esam, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Jarod Esam

executive
#2

Hello, and welcome to MMG's Quarterly Production Report Teleconference. This report and discussion cover the operational performance of MMG's sites for the second quarter of 2023. Joining us today are MMG interim CEO, Mr. Li Liangang; and CFO, and Mr. Ross Carroll, together with other exco members. I'll now hand over to Liangang who will discuss the highlights in the report before we provide an opportunity to ask questions.

Liangang Li

executive
#3

Thanks, Jarod. Good morning to everyone, and welcome to MMG's 2023 second quarter production report teleconference. As always, at MMG, our priority is safety. Our total recorded injury frequency rate for the second quarter is 1.7 hours work. This represents a decrease on the full year 2022 TRIFR of 1.25%. Let's now turn to our production performance for the second quarter of 2023. During the quarter, we provided approximately 93,000 tonnes of copper and 50,000 tonnes of zinc. We are pleased to report that we achieved increased production at each of our operations compared to the first quarter of 2023. Las Bambas copper production in the second quarter was 81,000 tonnes, representing a 153% increase on the same period last year. After resuming money activities in March, Las Bambas has remained at full capacity, with uninterrupted operations. During the quarter, various operational improvements, including optimization of [indiscernible] have resulted in ore mill throughput, reaching 13.6 million tons, the strongest quarter since 2019, and the second highest quarter in operations history. In the second quarter, the state of emergency implemented by the government of Peru and implemented throughout the quarter has allowed for stability along the Southern corridor. With the stability, Las Bambas concentrate transportation has remained uninterrupted since the removal of roadblocks in March. Recently, we achieved record high sales of around 470,000 tonnes of copper concentrate in the second quarter with around 43% of sales revenue contributed by drawdown of stockpiles. The reduction in stockpiles for the first half of 2023 is around 70,000 tonnes of copper concentrate. And when combined with movements in oil inventory, we expect an associated stock cost of around USD 157 million to be recognized in our interim accounts. Now turning to our update on community dialogue, we received a formal dialogue process with the Chalcobamba community in April, and the discussions are progressing. MMG remains committed to working closely with the government of Peru and community members with the aim of ensuring transparent and constructive dialogue. Discussions with the Huancuire community were [indiscernible] due to the [indiscernible] of the [indiscernible] of community on the 12th of June. The community has elected a new community president on 5th of June, and the appointment that was registered as the company's registry on the 6th of July. The Huancuire community has formed a new negotiating commission for the dialogue with Las Bambas with the first meeting held on the 17th of July. Las Bambas is a significant contributor to the local, regional and national economies in Peru. Our average base communities with these communities, together with others around the Southern Road corridor is to strengthen relationships and lead the long-term sustainable development of our host communities the start of Las Bambas. We are optimistic that we'll enjoy agreements from the continued development of Las Bambas can be reached. Now turning to the Las Bambas outlook for 2023. In line with prior guidance, we expect Las Bambas copper production to be in the range of 265,000 tonnes and 305,000 tonnes subject to continuous supply, people and logistics success to site. We are hopeful to be able to commence the development of the Chalcobamba deposit before the end of 2023. Moving to Kinsevere. In the first quarter, Kinsevere copper platform production decreased by 7% to around 11,000 tonnes compared to the same period in 2022. This was mainly due to lower ore mill throughput caused by unstable power supply from the national grid and a planned shutdown for the installation of the cobalt plant. However, a higher ore feed grade and improved recovery rates resulting from an increased supply of higher-grade third-party ore partially offset the lower mill throughput. The Kinsevere team progressed proprietary work [indiscernible] in the second quarter. We expect that fine ore from [indiscernible] restart to be transported to consumer in midsize in the second half of the year. I'm happy to report that construction progress of our Kinsevere extension product is on track. During the second quarter, we completed the majority of the structural and mechanical installation for the cobalt plant. Simple work continues for the construction of the concentrator and commenced for the [indiscernible] and asset plant. We expect the first cobalt production in 2023 and the first copper cathode from sulfide in 2024. The Kinsevere expansion product is expected to extend the mine life [indiscernible] and take annual production after 100,000 tonnes of copper equivalent production once we reach full ramp up in 2025. As for prior guidance, the expectation of copper production in 2023 remains between 40,000 and 48,000 tonnes. However, we expect C1 costs to increase to between USD 3.50 and USD 3.45 per pound from the prior guidance of between USD 2.50 and USD 2.80 per tonne. This was driven by a lower-than-expected cobalt price, reduced ore milled volumes caused by unstable power supply and increased reliance on third-party ore to offset the reduced oxide ore mine. And now moving on to our Australian operations, Dugald River. At Dugald River, we produce approximately 46,000 tonnes of zinc in the second quarter, which is a 12% increase -- sorry, which is a 12% decrease compared to the same period last year. The mine has been prioritizing the [indiscernible] of operations since restarting in late March after a 44-day subscription due to a fatal incident in February with 4 ways of mining and processing achieved in May. So zinc production was also impacted by lower margin grades due to the mining sequence and work area accessibility. However, the processing team achieved a record high quarterly recovery rate of 90.9% by driving incremental improvements from various optimization initiatives. The safe and successful ramp up of operations at Dugald River have allowed the mine's full year production guidance to remain unchanged from last revision, with an expected range of between 145,000 and 150,000 tonnes. C1 cost is expected to be in the range of USD 1.05 and USD 1.20 per pound. At Rosebery, zinc production of approximately 13,000 tonnes and lag production of around 5,000 tonnes were 13% and 12% higher than the same period last year, respectively. During the second quarter, mine and new volumes recovered from lost production time in the first quarter related to the push price. Workforce availability also improved supporting more stable production. New grade from both zinc and product by products were also higher, largely to due to margin sequence and a higher contribution from revenue stops. In line with prior guidance, we expect rotate to produce between 55,000 and 65,000 tonnes of zinc concentrate in 2023. However, due to higher byproduct price and strong precious metal prices. C1 cost is expected to be at lower of guidance of USD 0.45 and USD 0.50 per pound. We are now happy to take your questions. I'll now hand over to the moderator. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Lawrence Lau from BOCI.

Lawrence Lau

analyst
#5

I have actually 2 questions about Las Bambas. First of all, we had a very strong quarter for Las Bambas in terms of production. Now I would like to know that in case we cannot start development of Chalcobamba before the end of this year, what kind of production will be for the full year? Can the strong performance continue in the next 2 quarters, even without Chalcobamba? This is my first question. Second, in the presentation, Mr. Li talked about the extension of state of emergency on the Southern corridor. So it will expire next month. So what will happen by then? Can the government continue to expand the state of emergency without limit?

Ross Carroll

executive
#6

Hi, Laurence, it's Ross [indiscernible]. Yes, thanks for the questions. Firstly, with our production guidance, and if there is no Chalcobamba and we're able to operate continuously for the rest of the year. We should be looking at total volume of around about 300,000 tonnes. So that's with Chalcobamba. So yes, so obviously, it's a little bit hard to predict because we've got the impact Chalcobamba [indiscernible] and also the fact of whether we get a rate of [indiscernible] major sort of civil disturbances again. But basically, if we can produce uninterrupted for the rest of the year and no Chalcobamba of about 400,000 tonnes. And then I think with your second question regarding the state of emergency, it's been renewed to the middle of August. And I think the Minister of Energy and mines has come out and said openly that the government will continue to be utilizing [indiscernible] and the police to protect [indiscernible]. So I think that rating that is that obviously, this social disruption earlier in the year that had an effect [indiscernible]. So happy that a piece of the government is going to continue supporting our other mining companies that are impacted.

Operator

operator
#7

Your next question comes from Chris Shiu from BosValen Asset Management.

Chris Shiu

analyst
#8

My question is regarding Chalcobamba. So your announcement that you remain hopeful that the development can commence by the end of 2023. So how long would it take to come on stream, assuming that you can commence by the end of 2023? And how quickly will that be ramped up to full capacity?

Ross Carroll

executive
#9

Chris, we said it depends a little bit on the weather conditions. And if it's in the wet season, it becomes more difficult because we have to put all the infrastructure and will continue building the infrastructure and finishing that. But then if it happens earlier in the year when it's still dry, we're able to sort of [indiscernible] the infrastructure construction together or more in concert. Now the wet season sort of starts in November and goes to about March. So if we happen to get approval in the wet season, we'll probably take us 3 months to prepare the mine or the pits of production and then the [indiscernible] in the mining after that. So it depends on the season, but you're roughly looking at about 3 months of preparatory.

Chris Shiu

analyst
#10

And how about the ramp up to full capacity?

Ross Carroll

executive
#11

No to the ramp up of full capacity, that would take probably 6 to 9 months before we'll be at full capacity.

Operator

operator
#12

The next question comes from Jimmy Feng from Citi.

Jingshan Feng

analyst
#13

I'm very happy to see the normal operation of Las Bambas [indiscernible]. I have a few questions. The first question is regarding the inventory. We note that in the end of first half, there is still large inventory in the Las Bambas. So do you have any guidance that how many inventory will be reduced [indiscernible] assuming normal transportation disruption in the Las Bambas mine at the current rate? And the second question is regarding the negotiation with Huancuire community. We know that the first meeting with the new president of the community was conducted recently. So what's the feedback? Is there any incoming time line for this negotiation and any target for the outcome?

Ross Carroll

executive
#14

Thanks, Jim. I might take questions on them and then let Troy handle, he's our head of the Stakeholder Relations and Corporate Affairs, take question too. At the moment, our inventory is about 170,000 tonnes of concentrate at the site. And that would -- the 2 things that impact how quickly the inventory comes down firstly, how much we produce, and that depends on the grade. And obviously, how much or how open the roads are. But you sort of roughly speaking, so to be 30,000 tonnes of concentrate, which is roughly for once, which will be roughly sort of 10,000 tonnes of metal or a little bit under 10,000 tonnes of metal per month would be the broadband.

Troy Hey

executive
#15

Jimmy, Troy here. We're very optimistic with the discussion with Huancuire. The good thing I think you can take from this is that we are meeting with the community. We've now that we may begin Tuesday today, but there are also a number of informal meetings happening there. So we are able to access, talking. We have a schedule and some agreed structures in terms of working groups and a schedule emerging ahead. While we don't have a particular date, I think we're growing in confidence with each [indiscernible] that we understand the issues we need to discuss. We have a clear program of meetings. And as I said, it would be absolutely fantastic to be able to do it and [indiscernible] and nothing that we're seeing today that we should be able to achieve that.

Operator

operator
#16

Your next question comes from Howard Lau from HSBC.

H.B. Lau

analyst
#17

So I got a question regarding our unit cost of La Samba. So I see that there's some increase of C1 costs this year compared to last year. So what's our expectation going forward. With Chalcobamba's development and also without Chalcobamba development in terms of the deal.

Ross Carroll

executive
#18

We're -- so obviously, we don't have final numbers on this, but -- so talking generally, if we're at that sort of 300,000 tonnes a year, I think you find the unit costs have stayed relatively where they are. And then if we are able to bring Chalcobamba into production, and get the higher grades and therefore increase production, I suspect it is [indiscernible] costs come down to probably that sort of $1.30 to $1.50 range. But until we sort of know exactly when we've got Chalcobamba's, it's quite hard to predict. And yes, but -- so as I said, if we stay at 300,000 tonnes, we're probably looking at $70 to $1.90, but if we get up to 400 or close to 400 million a sale, it should drop to in the range of $1.30 to $1.50.

Operator

operator
#19

The next question comes from Eun Young Lee from DBS.

Eun Young Lee

analyst
#20

I have 2 questions. So I'm just wondering how long is the operation possible in the Las Bambas in our development of Chalcobamba. So I'm just wondering what's the color in the Las Bambas. So in case you can't -- so you kind of see to develop the Chalcobamba fleet. So what is your sustainability of the operations [indiscernible]. And the second question, are you considering building on alternative transportation better than [indiscernible] to reserve [indiscernible] community? So I think that when you develop Chalcobamba, you need to have more transportation [indiscernible] and then the way to ship the concentrate. So the completely with our local community is likely to continue. So if you are wondering if you consider any alternative transportation network to the [indiscernible] entirely.

Ross Carroll

executive
#21

Firstly, if we don't get Chalcobamba, we would look at sort of production being in the sort of 200,000 to 250,000 tonnes a year range in sort of the medium term because as the grade drops in Sulfobamba it is typical for us to maintain it. So we're sort of trending down towards that 250,000 to 200,000 tonnes a year mark, which is obviously in an optimal 1, until this is a sort of 350,000 to 400,000 tonne mine. So yes, that's why Chalcobamba is so important to us. And as far as the alternative transport, the only real alternative is potentially building a slurry pipeline. But the issue with that is it's not a short-term fix for us because build the pipeline would meet land assets for the pipeline and then is also the construction period. And it would be very hard to predict how long that would take. But I think as you can see the approval on lines in Peru [indiscernible] won't be a short exercise. And now in regard to your question about the additional volume because of Chalcobamba, what Chalcobamba does when come into production when we get a full year out of it, but we'll push it up to about 370,000 to 400,000 tonnes a year of production. That's well within our means for transport, and we have actually done that, transported that much before. So we do have enough capacity to include Chalcobamba when it comes into production. But Obviously, that can still be subject to roadblocks.

Operator

operator
#22

[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the conference back to Mr. Liangang Li for his final remarks.

Liangang Li

executive
#23

Yes. Thank you, everyone, for your time again. And if you have any further questions, please feel free to catch up with our Investor Relations and corporate affairs teams. And thank you again. Goodbye.

Operator

operator
#24

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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