Monde Nissin Corporation ($MONDE)

Earnings Call Transcript · May 6, 2026

PSE PH Consumer Staples Food Products Earnings Calls 50 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Michael Paska

Executives
#1

Good afternoon, and welcome to Monde Nissin's First Quarter 2026 Earnings Call. I am Mike Paska, Head of Investor Relations. On today's call with me are Henry Soesanto, Chief Executive Officer; Jesse Teo, Chief Financial Officer; and from the Quorn team, we have with us David Flochel, Chief Executive Officer; and Nick Cooper, Chief Financial Officer. By now, everyone should have access to today's earnings presentation and press release, all posted on the PSE Edge website earlier today. This information can also be found in the Investors section on Monde Nissin's website. And finally, before we begin, please note that the financial information being presented is unaudited. And during the course of this call, management may make forward-looking statements based upon current assumptions and expectations. These are not guarantees of future performance, and I encourage everyone to read the disclaimer in today's presentation. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Henry for our first quarter 2026 business performance. Henry?

Henry Soesanto

Executives
#2

Thank you. Thank you, Mike. Good afternoon, everyone. Before we get into the details, I wanted to share the key takeaways for this earnings call. For APAC BFB, top line growth in the first quarter was driven by volume growth across all businesses. Growth was led by our domestic business, which grew 9.5%. This was partially offset by our international business, which declined due to the Gulf crisis. Gross margin was flat year-on-year, but we saw impacts from carryover pricing actions and our cost management initiatives on sequential basis. We grew sequentially since Q3 2025 with Q1 2026 gross margin over 200 basis points higher quarter-on-quarter and over 400 basis points higher from the lowest Q2 2025. The business also saw solid operating cash flow, which doubled versus a year ago and is more than 100% of our core net income. So Meat Alternative which will be called protein business moving forward, I'll talk about it further later. So we saw continued positive trajectory driven by U.K. retail chilled and frozen as well as a more stable performance across much of our portfolio. We also saw another quarter to increase gross margin -- of increased gross margin with our year-on-year gross margin progression driven by transformation benefits, lower inventory and targeted selling price increases. Lastly, EBITDA doubled during the quarter and EBIT turned positive from negative in Q1 last year. Overall, we would like to highlight that economic impact stemming from the Middle East conflict were also contained during this quarter. Jesse will discuss all this in more detail. Now let us move to our first quarter business updates. Next slide, please. Our consolidated revenue increased by 9.1% year-on-year. Our APAC BFB business, which comprises 84% of top line of Q1 grew by 8.6% year-on-year. With our growth, we sustained our market leadership position for Q1 2026. Noodles market share slightly dipped in Q1. On the macro level, our noodles business underperformed the category as our gain in cup was offset by softness in dry pouch. We continue to see the K curve at play as we enjoy good share growth in cups, supported by our double digit sales growth in the segment. The increasing share by premium players in the dry pouch also support this. To participate in the growing premium segment, we launched Lucky Me! Stir-Fried Jjamppong in select chains in Q1, which is performing well so far. Despite the mixed results in the market share, our noodles business grew in value and volume across all segments in both general trade and modern trade. We will continue our brand building efforts with several activities in place. Next slide, please. APAC BFB market share by biscuits. For biscuits, we maintained the #1 position with market share close to 30%. Our business outperformed the category, driven by broad-based gain across the segments, reflecting the stronger performance of the flavor-led and trade-oriented formats. We will sustain brand investment for SkyFlakes, Grahams, Fita and Nissin butter coconut and work on closing distribution gaps, particularly in Mindanao. We'll also drive awareness and trial for our new formats and continue to scale through stronger execution in regards to availability and in-store visibility. Next slide, please. For Oyster sauce, our market share improved 370 basis points to 63.9%. Mama Sita's continue to drive penetration and consumption for the category. We will continue to emphasize the overall value advantage of oyster sauce over soy sauce to drive category and brand relevance. For beverages, yogurt drink and cultured milk share declined to 88.5% and 23.4%, respectively, due to supply challenges. As supply challenges are addressed, we expect our brand to regain momentum as we continue above and below-the-line initiative from both Dutch Mill and Delight. Next slide, please. Meat Alternative highlights. Our U.K. subsidiary is producing better protein which is complete in amino acid. It is called microprotein from edible fungus fusarium venenatum. In the past, it was basically targeted for producing the Meat Alternative. But the new trend of the consumers demand better nutrition and less processed food. Our protein, which naturally contain fiber can play in this segment and in other categories too. This is like snacks other than Meat Alternative. Our snack segment grew double digits in the past few retails. So I suggest from now on, we call this category protein business. So our protein business, which comprised 16% of our group top line in Q1 delivered a solid start to the year, showing continuous progress under the Transform to Win Together. Core EBITDA was more than double in Q1 2025 and we delivered a profit at the EBIT level supported by further gross margin expansion. Sales were marginally down on a like-to-like basis in a market that remains challenged. And we continue to strengthen brand fundamentals with considerations at its highest since 2022 and improved consumer perception on innovation, natural ingredients, taste and health. These perceptions not only build stronger foundation for a return to growth, but also help us to reframe the brand as a better protein choice with real relevant outside the Meat Alternative category. We drove buyer growth in 2 key areas: snacks and frozen ingredients, where we have focused. And finally, Quorn sales in our U.K. retail business grew year-on-year in both chilled and frozen. With that, I will hand it over to Jesse to talk about in more detail the financial performance. Jesse?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#3

Thank you, Henry. Thank you very much, Henry. I'm glad to report our financial performance for both APAC BFB and protein business. Let me start with the top line, where, as Henry mentioned, we grew 9.1% on a consolidated basis. This is led by the domestic sales of APAC Branded Food and Beverage, domestic Philippines sales, which grew 9.5%. As Henry mentioned, our export business had some hiccups because of our exports to the Middle East which was 0 for the quarter and that was a derailment of our overall sales growth. Our Meat Alternative, our protein business grew 11.7%. Transparently, much of this growth is on the exchange rate as the sterling appreciated strongly against the Philippine peso. On an organic basis, on a constant currency basis, the growth was 1.4%. I will elaborate more on that top line later on. Next slide, please. On consolidated gross profit, we grew gross profit by more than 130 basis points, primarily led by the almost 900 basis points expansion of gross margin in our protein business. This led to a 13% increase in our absolute gross profit. The gross profit carried over to our core net income attributable to shareholders, where we recorded PHP 3.251 billion of core net income for quarter 1. This PHP 3.251 billion is a record quarterly core net income. The margin expansion of core net income attributable to shareholders is lower than the gross margin expansion because of A&P investments, both in APAC Branded Food and Beverage and the protein business. I'll elaborate a little bit more later on. On a reported net income, our reported net income expanded faster at 34% growth versus a year ago. This is largely due to noncash mark-to-market revaluation of the guarantee asset. Whereas there was a PHP 290 million loss last year, there was a PHP 210 million gain this year, primarily due to the stock price, the higher stock price. Again, we will guide everyone to view or judge our performance based on core net income attributable to shareholders. Next slide, please. Now to drill down further on our broad-based growth, in APAC Branded Food and Beverage. We'd like to share the details of our growth. First of all, the first observation is we grew volume across the board. Second key observation is that despite price increases in both noodles and biscuits, our volumes grow. This reinforces that our brands can sustain pricing. The last thing to highlight is that others business, which comprised primarily of culinary, packaged cakes and beverage is growing at double digit rate. Because of the continuous double digit growth rate, it is almost 25% or 1/4 of our APAC Branded Food and Beverage. And within it, all the key categories that I mentioned, culinary, packaged cakes and beverage are all growing at double digit volume. Even beverage, which Henry mentioned had supply chain hiccups, grew at 10.5%. Next slide, please. Now on bottom line, wheat, which is now 14% of our APAC Branded Food and Beverage, COGS has good lock in positions. We are almost fully locked in, in Q2, and we have very substantial lock-ins in Q3. Because of our good volumes, we are pulling forward some of our lock-in positions to supply the near-term strong volume growth that we have. This is good news for us in the short term, but of course, it exposes us later on in Q4 if prices continue to be elevated. The current prices are 100 percentile on a 1-year basis, but we are getting our wheat at a much lower cost because of our lock-in positions. On palm oil, it's the same story. It's 7% of our Q1 APAC Branded Food and Beverage COGS. We have very good lock-in positions all the way to Q4. Our lock-in positions are a combination of physical contracts and swaps. Q4 and Q3 are primarily swaps and they're all in the money at this point. Next slide, please. On coconut oil, it continues to be elevated. However, it has dipped in the last few months. And we have taken advantage of that, doing short-term lock-ins until the end of Q2. This protects us from further increases. Due to coconut oil continuing to be high, we have taken not only pricing action, which we explained earlier as one of our key reasons for increase of our top line and also reformulations. The reformulations are the key -- are one of the keys for us to be able to restore the gross margin that we lost. We almost have recovered entirely the gross margin we lost due to the edible oil upcharge. Next slide, please. As I mentioned, gross margin has almost been fully recovered versus the peak of 37.1% gross margin last year -- Q1 last year, we are now at 37%. Our absolute gross profit increased by 8.3%, driven by our volume. A&P increased by 80 basis points and this is primarily due to a low base. Last year, because of supply chain constraints in our biscuit business and soft volumes of our noodle business, you will recall that we had double digit declines in our core drag wet pouch business then, we decided to curtail A&P. The 2.5% of sales is an abnormal A&P rate, which we adjusted to because of the soft volumes then. 3.3% reflects a more normal A&P spend. And thus, from a year-on-year basis, there is an increase of A&P as a percent of sales. The higher A&P is the reason why our core EBITDA margins declined. But on absolute, we still increase by 2% because of the higher volume in sales. Core net income shows a better margin progression because of our U.S. dollar stockpile. Recall, as part of our hedge, because a lot of our input costs are in U.S. dollars, we keep a substantial portion of our excess cash in U.S. dollars. And obviously, with the USD appreciating versus the Philippine peso ending March 31 at PHP 60.744, we realized substantial gain in that U.S. dollar stockpile. That's a deliberate hedging strategy for the company and that's -- it helped us in our core net income position. Next slide, please. For the protein business, sales are up 11.7% on a reported basis. That's on a peso basis, as I mentioned, helped largely by the strengthening sterling. On a constant currency basis, the growth was 1.4%. But on a like-for-like days because there are different number of days in Q1 '25, there are more selling days in Q1 '25 than in Q1 '26. If we adjust for a number of days, we actually have a slight decline of 0.8. This is on lower volumes of 2.1%. The highlight, however, on the financials for our [indiscernible] business is the almost 900 basis points expansion. The factors that we explained driving this gross margin expansion continues to be there. And we have good lock-in positions just like in APAC Branded Food and Beverage for our key input costs that will help mitigate the increasing prices that we see on a spot basis of our key input costs. Our core EBITDA was up -- was more than double and grew 131.4% because of the good gross margin. We fully funded our marketing campaign to sustain the momentum that we have for snacking and we still expanded EBITDA, doubled EBITDA. But the key highlight is really after a long while, we finally booked a profit for our protein business. EBIT is positive and this is one of the key milestones that we are looking for and we have finally reached it in Q1 2026. Next slide, please. Lastly, in response to prices, we have recalibrated our CapEx plan. We are maintaining a PHP 1 billion -- almost PHP 1 billion budget for our protein business. However, we adjusted our CapEx plan for APAC Branded Food and Beverage. We pare it down by PHP 1 billion to PHP 6.5 billion, majority of which will go towards building our next bakery line -- bakery plant in Central Luzon. That ends our prepared remarks, and we are now ready for questions.

Michael Paska

Executives
#4

Thank you, Jesse. I will now moderate our Q&A portion of the call. Questions can be submitted via your chat box. We will attempt to address as many as possible time permitting. Jesse, the first question is from you -- is for you. And the question is, was there any pull forward or advanced orders from trade that accelerated revenue growth? And also a second part of this question is what caused the quarter-over-quarter market share improvement in noodles? And if you can provide any color on the subcategories, that would be helpful.

Jesse Teo

Executives
#5

Yes. So on the pull forward, first of all, our products tend to be bulky. So they're very inefficient to pull forward. Secondly, we follow a very strict revenue recognition rule. Advanced orders are not recognized as inventory unless they are received by our customers. So that's very important. Thirdly, it is widely known that the government requested that we do not take pricing during the month of April. There was a strong request and being good corporate citizens, we adhered to that request. So there was no pricing anticipation in April that led to a strong March. I think the volume-based growth was broad-based because of all our marketing plans and the recovery of our noodles. Speaking of noodles, right, noodles has a low base -- as we -- as I explained, we declined more than double digits in our wet pouch business because of the purchase power issue. I think the times have -- the circumstances that led to that decreased purchasing power have changed since then. And we are starting to see growth in that wet pouch segment, and we are happy to see that change. The growth is modest. But as mentioned by Henry, it's broad-based. So it's across all segments, dry pouch, wet pouch and cups, especially for cups, which grew double digits. And that reflects on our overall volume growth. We also took pricing -- some pricing early in the year just before the crisis. But despite that, the volumes were good. They were not affected by the pricing. And this continues the trend where we were able to grow volume at the time when we had to raise prices. Again, we take pricing on manageable chunks, usually 3% to 4%. And because of that, relatively, we are still one of the best -- one of the most economical food items. And that's why I think we continue to win and win back our consumers.

Michael Paska

Executives
#6

Thank you, Jesse. Jesse, another question for you. And can you address what drove the 20% year-over-year OpEx growth in the first quarter?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#7

Yes. It is largely A&P. For APAC, as I explained earlier, the Q1 '25 base is a low base for A&P. We had that noodles volume issue on the wet pouch, as I mentioned. So we -- in response to that, we cut our A&P spend. And we had supply chain hiccups, machines were being maintained for our bakery business. And so since we were not able to sell the demand, we decided to cut the A&P, so 2.5% A&P as a percent of sales is not a normal base. So we expect a more normal base of 3.3% and that explains the higher OpEx. There was also obviously logistics costs that has gone up, but that was only 10 basis points for OpEx. For Meat Alternatives, as I mentioned earlier, we continue to invest in the business. This is not part of the base. There was no investment yet in Q1 '25 and we are investing following the good results that we experienced when we invested in the latter part of '25. We are continuing that, fueling the fire, if you will, in order to sustain the momentum we have for U.K. retail, especially for snacking.

Michael Paska

Executives
#8

Thank you, Jesse. The next question is for David. And the question for you is, you have recently invested behind frozen ingredients. Can you say more about the results? Is it working? And then also related to that question, can you discuss the recent decision to move from referring to Quorn as the Meat Alternative business to now referring to it as the protein business?

David Flochel

Executives
#9

Sure. Thank you, Mike. Yes, in Q4 2025 and Q1 2026, we've invested behind our frozen ingredients business, which has been reformulated to be free from any artificial ingredients and as a high source of protein and fiber. And yes, it is working. As a result of that investment, I think we've strengthened the business fundamentals in, let's say, 3 main areas. The first one, we've been stopping the decline. We've been stopping the double digit decline that we have seen for several years in the core business of the portfolio, this frozen ingredients business, while we've been bringing new shoppers for the first time since 4 years within this segment. At the same time as well, I think it's important to highlight that the core total frozen food has outperformed the total frozen category and the frozen food itself. The second element I want to highlight is the brand performance metrics. We have seen key brand metrics step on. Highlights for me includes a 5 points increase in brand consideration and the positive perception shifts around innovation, natural ingredients, taste and health. All of those is helping us to build a platform for Quorn to reposition itself and positive protein choices for all consumers regardless of whether they're looking for -- to shop Meat Alternative or not. I think we have the ambition now to reframe our positioning and the category we play into. We want to move from substitutes of meat into preferred everyday protein choices with the ambition to win on taste, health, nutrition, affordability and convenience. And I think we can do that with our unique complete protein, microprotein. So more to come on this topic, but we definitely see that on frozen ingredients with, again, the rich source of protein and fiber and no additional ingredient. We see that in snacking as well with healthier snacks than competition and we want to continue on that journey to reposition the brand. The last thing I want to say about the campaign is that we have seen somehow some halo effect across the portfolio because snacking has been accelerating its growth while we were promoting frozen food and frozen ingredients as well. Finally, I think it's worth noting that all of that has been done while delivering a positive EBIT and self-funding the investment I just talked about.

Michael Paska

Executives
#10

Thank you very much, David. Jesse, I have a question for you, and this is understanding that due to the amount of geopolitical uncertainty, you're not providing mid- and long-term guidance. But could you comment on how Q2 is going so far?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#11

Sorry, I was on mute. Yes, April was a very strong month for us with double digit growth domestically. And this is led by noodles. Again, playing out as what we experienced in the past during times of hardship, crisis, noodles being an economical food item, as we mentioned, the demand strengthens. And we're seeing that the total growth was 10%, but noodles was higher than that and lifting the overall growth I guess, due to the times. So far, so good.

Michael Paska

Executives
#12

Thank you, Jesse. Nick, another question for you. And can you comment more on the recent Grocer article guiding to profitable sales growth by the end of the 3-year strategic plan?

Nicholas Cooper

Executives
#13

Yes. Sure, Mike. So this is around the longer-term guidance around the transformation journey. And you'll recall that when David was introduced to this investor group, along with the Q4 2024 results, he outlined an ambition for the turnaround of the protein business, which would see the business back into profit and growth in financial year 2027. And the Grocers article has incorporated something similar in its commentary on our recent filing of our 2025 local results. So in relation to that ambition, that ambition for 2027 remains unchanged. We aim as part of the turnaround to get the business back to full year profit and growth in 2027. We clearly, when we set that ambition, hadn't anticipated a war in the Gulf. But so far, we don't believe that the impact of the Iran war puts that ambition out of reach. But clearly, we need to keep that under review and it certainly introduces some more uncertainty in the short term. So Mike, that leaves us in a position where I think our 2027 ambition remains clear and unchanged. But in the short term, we're not able to provide detailed guidance about what 2026 looks like as a step towards that ambition.

Michael Paska

Executives
#14

Thank you, Nick. I have another question for you. It's 2 parts. Can we expect gross margins to increase beyond the level of Q1? And then also, if you could clarify that the gross profit and EBIT growth for Meat Alternatives was on a constant currency basis?

Nicholas Cooper

Executives
#15

Sure. Yes. So you saw an exceptionally strong gross margin of almost 32% in the first quarter. So that's up over 800 bps year-on-year, over 400 bps quarter-on-quarter. That's driven by the really impressive progress on our transformation journey, some targeted price increases and also in the fourth quarter, higher production output. And there has not yet been impact of any Iranian headwinds in the quarter. Where we have seen some small impacts there that has largely gone into the valuation of our stock and so the Iranian challenges, although they seem relatively modest at the moment, are in the future. So looking at the upcoming quarters, having said that, I do expect gross margin to contract a little from this exceptionally high Q1 level, but still to deliver year-on-year expansion. And that reflects slightly lower production output and some of those headwinds from the Iran conflict. But I think if Iran remains modest and/or short-lived, I do expect to get back to the gross margin expansion journey as we move towards the end of the year and into 2027. But clearly, we need to see what happens from an Iran perspective. I -- and the second part of the question in terms of that expansion of margins and the year-on-year strong performance, yes, that is also the case at a constant currency level. We are seeing those improvements on a constant currency basis.

Michael Paska

Executives
#16

Thank you, Nick. Jesse, I have a question for you, and this is, when is the new biscuit plant expected to be operational? And how much is it expected to contribute to top line in 2026?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#17

Yes. So for 2026, it will be 0 because the line will only be up by first half of '27. So the line, we can produce about PHP 5 billion of sales, that line. That's our target immediately. But we have space for more lines. So potentially, that new greenfield factory can produce even bigger sales once we maximize the footprint that we have.

Michael Paska

Executives
#18

Thank you, Jesse. Jesse, another question for you. And this is, are we confident about supply guarantees of raw materials, especially wheat and palm oil until the fourth quarter? Any risk of force majeure by suppliers, especially on the contract prices?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#19

So far, no force majeure issue that we know of. Our wheat is largely sourced from North America, primarily 100% sourced from North America and have been no hiccups. Prices have gone up, but supply continues to be stable, right? But we do have those stocking positions that will serve us well until Q3. So for palm oil, also, majority of that comes from Southeast Asia, Indonesia and Malaysia. We don't, again, see -- foresee any force majeure issue, no supply constraints. We have physical -- primarily physical lock-ins until Q2 and then we have swaps. But even with those swaps, we don't see our suppliers not being able to supply us [indiscernible].

Michael Paska

Executives
#20

Thank you, Jesse. Jesse, another question for you. And this is, can we expect fairly stable gross profit margin for APAC given inventory covers already secured?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#21

I think it will be more volatile as our lock-ins are consumed. If our volume trajectory continues to be strong, obviously, we will be using up the lower price input costs faster. So that's good for the short term, but again, it presents risk on the longer term. Our hope is that the conflict is short-lived and things normalize and prices go down by the time we had to take positions for Q4. But nobody knows that. We can only be agile day-to-day and take positions as we kind of read how things will unfold in the conflict.

Michael Paska

Executives
#22

Thank you, Jesse. Jesse, I have several questions on dividends. But essentially, given the strong financial performance, are investors likely to expect additional dividends this year?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#23

During the last earnings call, we said that we have a robust cash balance and we have a very cash-generative business. The cash-generative business was in full display in Q1, where we have -- we doubled the cash, free cash flow and have free cash flow that is more than 100% of core net income from PHP 4 billion versus PHP 3.3 billion. That bodes well for us. It gives us -- boost our confidence. But again, we'd rather be cautiously optimistic. We don't know the extent and the severity of the Iran war. We are planning -- we are trying to be agile to ensure business continuity and to protect margin -- reasonably protect margin while still taking care of our consumer. We need to balance those -- balance the short-term and the long-term needs. And since we don't know how the scenario will play out, it will be difficult to provide a guarantee. All I can say is because of Q1, we feel a bit more confident because of our strong cash performance in Q1.

Michael Paska

Executives
#24

Thank you, Jesse. A question for you again. This is on the impact of current oil shock to your costs, such as transportation, logistics, utilities, packaging. How much do they account as a percentage of OpEx? And then also related to this is, are there any pricing actions taken or will be taken in 2026? And will these offset the cost increases?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#25

Yes. So let me start with electricity. For electricity, we're lucky that 7 of our 9 plants, the major ones have lock-in positions. And fortunately, it's not crude oil-based or coal-based power -- electricity. So we are protected both against the rate increases, rate of generation costs and also force majeure risk, we are -- we have a lucky position there. For transport, total logistics is about 4.5% of sales for us. We have been modeling how it will go up or up with different diesel price scenarios. Obviously, we have moved from 150 now back to 100 and still keeping a worst-case scenario of maybe 200. We don't know what will happen. We have some formulation on -- we have some kind of adjustment to know the impact of fuel on our transport costs. As to pricing to cover our cost up tranche, before I talk about pricing, let me talk about packaging. Last time, I talked about resin as a risk. The good news is we have secured resin supply until Q3. So supply looks like in the short term -- short to medium term will not be an issue. However, most of our suppliers cannot commit to any pricing. So right now the indication is that it could be very high. So it's a very high double and sometimes triple digit increases in packaging, primarily resin-based packaging. How do we plan to offset that? In the past, as I said, we balance the need to maintain margins with ensuring that consumers can still afford our products. So we take pricing actions in manageable chunks. I will not be able to guide you on exact percentages or exact timing as we do not signal pricing in a public forum. But I would say that we will maintain our success model that we have implemented in the past when similar prices was experienced by the business.

Michael Paska

Executives
#26

Okay. Thank you, Jesse. I have a question for David. And this question is in regards to how is the foodservice business doing?

David Flochel

Executives
#27

Thank you, Mike. Foodservice is slightly less than 20% of our total protein business. And I think like the overall business, the sales decline we saw in that channel has stabilized. And I think we've progressed through our turnaround plan. If we remember, last year, we started the year with a decline close to 7% in Q1, then 4% in Q2, 2% in Q3 and stabilizing in Q4, actually in line as well in Q1. So stabilization of the business would be the comment on foodservice. However, in spite of this improvement in the trajectory, there's still a lot of work to be done. And I have to say that we recruited a new leader to lead that business for us, is now in place and is here to drive a return to profitable and sustainable growth in the coming quarters.

Michael Paska

Executives
#28

Thank you very much, David. The next question is for Henry. And this question is basically, how do you think about margins versus sales volume?

Henry Soesanto

Executives
#29

I think it's difficult to predict today. If you look at the headlines there, the inflation rate stood up to 7.2%. That definitely will affect the disposable income of our consumers, right? So -- and then also the recent development of pesos exchange rate, that will first off increase the material cost as well. So let's see, all of this if this short term, then doesn't pose too much threat. But don't forget also, all our brands are the market dominant brands. Of course, if necessary, we can take pricing, but we are going to do it very, very cautiously, of course.

Michael Paska

Executives
#30

Thank you, Henry. Jesse, I have a question for you and this is what percentage of COGS comprise palm oil?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#31

We mentioned that, 7% in the presentation.

Michael Paska

Executives
#32

Okay. And a couple of other parts of this question is, are you launching any new products?

Jesse Teo

Executives
#33

We do not share things that have not been launched. But what we like to emphasize and I hope people will try it, our new Stir-Fried Jjamppong dry pouch. That's our foray into the premium dry pouch, so far doing quite well. As I mentioned, we have been losing share versus the premium and super premium noodle brands. And we hope with our Stir-Fried Jjamppong, we will start to participate in that growing segment, so.

Michael Paska

Executives
#34

Thank you, Jesse. This concludes the Q&A portion of the call. I would now like to turn it back over to Henry for closing remarks.

Henry Soesanto

Executives
#35

Thank you. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, everyone, for your participation in this call and continued interest in our company. In summary, our APAC BFB business delivered robust top line growth in the first quarter, supported by volume growth across all categories. We are encouraged by the sequential improvement in gross margin despite ongoing inflationary pressures. For our protein business, sales stabilized at constant currency in Q1 with gross margin expanding almost 900 basis points year-on-year. So we achieved positive EBIT reflecting steady progress in our ongoing transformation, supported by continued cost reduction and efficiency initiatives. Despite a strong start to the year, we remain mindful of the ongoing uncertainties and inflationary headwinds. We will continue to manage the business prudently while remaining sensitive to our consumers when price adjustments are necessary. With that, I look forward to speaking to you again in August when we hold our first half 2026 earnings call. Until then, stay safe and healthy. Thank you.

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