Motorcar Parts of America, Inc. (MPAA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 9, 2023

NASDAQ US Consumer Discretionary Automobile Components earnings 43 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day. My name is Rob, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the Motorcar Parts of America Fiscal 2023 Third Quarter Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Gary Maier, Vice President of Corporate Communications and Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Gary Maier

executive
#2

Thank you. Thank you, Rob, and thanks, everyone, for joining us. Before I turn the call over to Selwyn Joffe, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and David Lee, the company's Chief Financial Officer, I'd like to remind everyone of the safe harbor statement included in today's press release. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 provides a safe harbor for certain forward-looking statements, including statements made during today's conference call. Such forward-looking statements are based on the company's current expectations and beliefs concerning future developments and their potential effects on the company. There can be no assurance that future developments affecting the company will be those anticipated by Motorcar Parts of America. Actual results may differ from those projected in the forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements involve significant risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond the control of the company and are subject to change based upon various factors. In particular, expectations about anticipated future growth and opportunities with customers may not be achieved. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. For a more detailed discussion of some of the ongoing risks and uncertainties of the company's business, I refer you to the company's various filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. With that said, I would like to begin the call and turn the call over to Selwyn.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#3

Thank you, Gary. I appreciate everyone joining us today. Let me begin by addressing factors that impacted our results, and then I will address our expectations for the near future. Before I begin, despite our softer-than-normal sales for the quarter, let me assure you that there were no customer or shelf space losses. There were 2 major items impacting our sales for the quarter. First, a certain customer reduced orders by approximately $14 million compared with the same period a year ago. In addition, we were impacted by delays in new business from certain other customers, representing approximately $17 million of deferrals for the quarter. As a result, our sales targets for the quarter and 9-month period were affected. We are now experiencing a resumption of ordering levels in the current fiscal fourth quarter, with orders expected to gain further momentum throughout our next fiscal year. As a result of the lower sales volumes, we temporarily reduced production, which impacted overhead absorption, which in turn impacted gross margins. As sales and production volume increases, we expect to incrementally benefit from increased overhead absorption. I should emphasize that in the normal course of business, customer returns remain relatively constant. As such, when sales decrease, returns as a percentage of sales increase. Returns as a percentage of sales were higher for the quarter, which in turn further impacted gross margins. Gross margins were also impacted by inflationary costs not yet covered by price increases. We expect to realize the full benefit of our price increases in the current fiscal fourth quarter, with further upside from expected order volume improvement, operating efficiencies and cost reduction initiatives that we continue to implement across the entire organization. These initiatives, including an ongoing company-wide strategic analysis of opportunities to realign our resources and cost structure to enhance profitability and cash flow. Clearly, our results were not acceptable and not what we expected when we hosted our fiscal second quarter call, primarily due to specific customer-related ordering activities and some macroeconomic headwinds, as I just noticed. We experienced some supply chain challenges, primarily due to shortages for certain components, which impacted production of some products. Fortunately, sales that were impacted by supply chain issues last quarter are improving. This will also help mitigate the impact on gross margins going forward. Higher interest rates continued to have a significant impact on profitability, primarily due to rates related to long-established customer supply chain finance programs. David will discuss these items shortly. As you know, we are a major supplier of critical nondiscretionary automotive aftermarket parts. We are working with our customers to address the sharply high interest rate environment, which impacts both MPAA and our customers as well as companies doing business with the leading automotive retailers. It's an industry challenge that requires practical solutions and further action. Now let me address our future outlook. We expect sales to increase by $52 million annually, just from a resumption of expected normalized order volume from 2 key customers, starting in the current quarter. In addition, we expect to add incremental sales of approximately $15 million from additional committed new business. We also expect to more than double our business for brake pads and rotors in the next fiscal year. Equally important, our gross margins will be enhanced by approximately $20 million of incremental price increases that start this quarter. In addition, as we ramp up for an all-time record fourth quarter, we expect to see margin accretion from efficiencies related to the higher volume and cost-cutting initiatives. As noted in our press release today, we have revised our annual guidance to reflect the actual third quarter results and our optimism for the current fourth quarter. While we don't provide quarterly guidance, given our quarterly guidance, given our revised update, one can easily calculate it. We expect record sales for the fiscal fourth quarter between $183.6 million and $191.6 million and record profitability of adjusted EBITDA between $27.5 million and $32.5 million. With respect to cash flow, our expectation is to continue to make progress to generate cash. We are committed to maintaining strong organic growth while focused on enhancing our gross margins and cash flow. In short, as a result of all these initiatives, we believe the company is well positioned for sustainable top and bottom line growth for parts and solutions, and our partnerships with our customers will be mutually enhanced. Now let me expand a bit further and discuss the other drivers to support our ability to achieve our longer-term financial targets. Our brake-related product lines are growing with expected operating efficiency improvements as volume increases with further fixed cost absorption opportunities. We believe our brake-related business will exceed $300 million in annual sales, above our fiscal '22 reported results, within the next 4 to 5 years. We are continuing to expand sales in Mexico with multiple product lines as our customers experience increased demand for aftermarket parts, which currently includes rotating electrical, wheel hubs, brake boosters and brake master cylinders. All major automotive retailers are continuing the rollout of our electric benchtop -- rotating electric benchtop tester, and we expect sales from this opportunity to reach a cumulative $80 million in the next 4 to 5 years. We also expect additional revenue for maintenance and add-on services. Our Electric Vehicle contract testing center in Detroit, Michigan continues to attract customers, including a leading agricultural and construction equipment provider and leading EV automotive manufacturers, to support the design and development of electric vehicles. This contract testing is an initial entry into Software as a Solution. In short, we are well positioned to address both the internal combustion engine market and the emerging electric vehicle market with product functionality and applications across both markets. We expect continued strong demand for ICE, internal combustion engine applications for decades, notwithstanding electric vehicle growth, which still represents a small percentage of the overall car part. In summary, we have a broad line of nondiscretionary aftermarket parts necessary to service the car population of approximately 285 million vehicles on the road, representing an uptick based on recently issued industry data. We remain excited about our opportunities, notwithstanding the headwinds we experienced for the quarter. I can assure you, we are working diligently every day with our customers and suppliers to meet the demand for our products as well as addressing the inflationary pressures we are all facing that I touched on earlier in my remarks. I will now turn the call over to David to review our results in greater detail.

David Lee

executive
#4

Thank you, Selwyn, and good morning, everyone. I encourage everyone to read the earnings press release issued this morning as well as the 10-Q that will be filed later today. Let me now provide a review of our fiscal third quarter and 9 months financial results. Net sales for the fiscal '23 third quarter were $151.8 million compared with $161.8 million in the prior year. Fiscal third quarter results were sharply impacted by a certain customer reducing orders by approximately $14 million compared with the prior year and delays with other customers for new business of approximately $17 million. Orders have resumed in the current fiscal '23 fourth quarter, and we're expected to continue through fiscal '24, as Selwyn mentioned earlier. Gross profit for the fiscal '23 third quarter was $21 million compared with $32.6 million a year earlier. Gross profit for the quarter was impacted by noncash items as well as cash items. Let me provide details for each, and then I will provide further details on the impact on each additional line item so you can further understand underlying fundamentals between periods and the opportunities to enhance profitability. The noncash items reflect core and finished group premium amortization and revaluation of cores on customer shelves, which are unique to certain of our products as required by GAAP. The total for these noncash items in the quarter was approximately $3.9 million. A more detailed explanation of core accounting is available on our website, and I would encourage anyone with questions about this topic to review the video. We also incurred transitory supply chain disruption costs of $2.4 million compared with $4.3 million a year ago, as referenced in Exhibit 3 of this morning's earnings press release. We are encouraged that these costs are decreasing. Third quarter gross profit as a percentage of net sales was 13.8% compared with 20.1% a year earlier. Gross margin was impacted by 2.6% on the previously mentioned noncash items as well as 1.6% from the previously mentioned cash items from transitory costs related to supply chain disruptions. While global supply chain challenges seem to be improving, we are still experiencing challenges and continue to assess COVID-19 and global geopolitical situations. In summary, in addition to the noncash and cash items explained previously, gross margin for the fiscal '23 third quarter compared with the prior year was impacted by inflationary costs not yet covered by price increases, temporary lower absorption of overhead costs due to lower production volume and changes in product mix. Gross margin improvement is expected to be enhanced as the full benefit of certain price increases is realized and with higher sales volumes in the current fourth quarter in fiscal 2024. Operating expenses were down $6.4 million for the quarter to $17.5 million from $23.9 million in the prior year period. This included a noncash gain of $4.3 million for the foreign exchange impact of lease liabilities and forward contracts compared with a prior year noncash loss of $385,000. The remaining $1.7 million of operating expense decreases include cost-reduction initiatives. We reported net income of $1 million or $0.05 per diluted share, as detailed in this morning's press release. Results reflect the impact of noncash items totaling $484,000 or $0.02 per diluted share. Cash items that impacted results included transitory costs related to supply chain disruptions totaling $2.8 million or $0.14 per diluted share. In addition to the above noncash and cash items, as previously mentioned in the gross margin discussion, results for the quarter were impacted by inflationary costs not yet covered by price increases, temporary lower absorption of overhead costs due to lower production volume and changes in product mix. Results are expected to be enhanced as the full benefit of certain price increases is realized and with higher sales volumes in the current fourth quarter and in fiscal 2024. I should note that we have implemented cost-reduction initiatives throughout the company, including travel, outside services, labor costs and overall cost-saving opportunities, which are expected to enhance profitability. Additionally, results for the fiscal third quarter were also impacted by $7.5 million or $0.29 per diluted share of higher interest expenses, primarily due to higher market interest rates compared with the prior year. Interest expense was $11.5 million compared with $3.9 million for last year. Of this increase in interest expense, approximately 98% resulted from higher market interest rates. I should further emphasize that the large interest expense incurred in the third quarter was primarily driven by a sharp rise in interest rates of 4.5% compared with the prior year for the accounts receivable discount program offered by our customers. This increase is more than triple the discount rate the company paid in interest expense in the prior year period. As a critical supplier of nondiscretionary automotive parts, we are committed to arriving at a satisfactory solution to this issue. Additionally, we are focused on improving cash flow to pay down borrowings. Additionally, income tax benefit was $9 million compared with $1.6 million income tax expense for the prior year period. The income tax provision reflects the expected benefit from tax losses. I should also mention that the effective tax rate for the 9 months was affected in part due to the inability to recognize the benefit of losses at specific foreign jurisdictions. However, we expect these losses will be utilized against future profits, which will benefit future tax rates. Net income was $3.1 million or $0.16 per diluted share in the year-ago period. Results a year earlier were impacted by noncash items totaling $4.8 million or $0.25 per diluted share and cash items totaling $3.7 million or $0.19 per diluted share, primarily transitory costs related to supply chain disruptions. EBITDA for the third quarter was $6.6 million. EBITDA was impacted by $646,000 of noncash items as well as $3.8 million in cash items, primarily due to the transitory costs related to supply chain disruptions. EBITDA before the impact of noncash and cash items mentioned above was $11 million for the third quarter. In addition to the above noncash and cash items, EBITDA for the quarter was further impacted by inflationary costs not yet covered by price increases, temporary lower absorption of overhead costs due to lower production volume and changes in product mix, as previously mentioned. In summary, EBITDA improvement in the current fourth quarter and fiscal 2024 are expected to be enhanced by the full benefit of certain price increases and with higher sales volume in addition to cost-reduction initiatives. EBITDA for the prior year third quarter was $11.9 million. EBITDA a year ago was impacted by $6.4 million of noncash items as well as $4.9 million of cash expenses, primarily transitory costs related to supply chain disruptions. EBITDA before the impact of noncash and cash items mentioned above were $23.2 million for the prior year third quarter. Now let me discuss the 9 months results. Net sales for the fiscal '23 9-month period were $488.3 million, representing a 3.2% increase compared with $473.1 million in the prior year, which excludes $13.3 million in core revenue due to a realignment of inventory at customer distribution centers with sales benefits evolving as product mix changes. Gross profit for the fiscal '23 9-month period was $77.8 million compared with $92.1 million a year earlier. Gross profit as a percentage of net sales for the fiscal '23 9-month period was 15.9% compared with 18.9% a year earlier. Gross margins for the fiscal '23 9-month period was impacted by 2.4% of noncash items and 1.8%, primarily transitory supply chain disruptions as detailed in Exhibit 4 in this morning's earnings press release. In addition to the noncash and cash items just mentioned, gross margin for the fiscal '23 9-month period was impacted by various items discussed previously for the quarter. We expect gross margin improvement to be enhanced with the full benefit of certain price increases and with higher sales volumes, as I noted in my previous comments for the quarter. Net loss for the fiscal '23 9-month period was $5.7 million or $0.29 per share compared with net income of $7.7 million or $0.39 per diluted share a year ago. Results were impacted by noncash items totaling $9.6 million or $0.50 per diluted share and cash items totaling $9.5 million or $0.49 per share, primarily transitory costs related to supply chain disruptions as detailed in Exhibit 2. In addition to the above items, results for the 9-month period were primarily impacted by various items discussed previously. Results are expected to be enhanced as a result of the various initiatives I discussed earlier concerning price increases and higher sales volume. EBITDA for the fiscal '23 9-month period was $22 million. EBITDA was impacted by $12.9 million of noncash items as well as $12.6 million in cash items. EBITDA before the impact of noncash and cash items mentioned above was $47.5 million for the current period. In addition to the above items, EBITDA for the 9-month period was impacted by various items as referenced previously for the quarter. In summary, as I discussed, for the quarter, we expect EBITDA improvement as the full benefit of certain price increases and higher sales volume are realized along with cost reduction initiatives. EBITDA for the prior year fiscal '22 9-month period was $33.6 million. EBITDA was impacted by $19.9 million of noncash items as well as $14.2 million in cash items. EBITDA before the impact of noncash and cash items mentioned above was $67.7 million for the prior year period. Now we will move on to cash flow and key corporate items. Net cash used in operating activities during the fiscal third quarter was $4.5 million versus $2.2 million cash provided by operating activities in the prior year period. This reflects working capital requirements, support year-to-date sales growth and expect record sales for the fiscal '23 fourth quarter. We expect to generate an increase in operating profit on a quarter-over-quarter basis for the fourth quarter supported by organic growth from customer demand, introduction of new product categories, price increases and operating efficiencies from our footprint expansion. I should point out that due to record sales volume, we expect our accounts receivable balance to increase significantly in the fourth quarter, which will result in further enhancement to cash flow in the next -- in the new fiscal year. It should be noted that our days outstanding receivable is approximately 45 days. Our return on invested capital on a pretax basis at December 31, 2022, was 13.3% compared with 23.1% a year earlier. As our investments bear fruit, we expect to realize further benefit from the expansion of our Mexican operations and the launch of our new brake categories, with expectation of increased returns from both new and existing product lines. Our net debt at the end of the quarter was approximately $176.3 million while total cash and availability on the revolving credit facility was approximately $70 million. Lastly, we recently entered into a fifth amendment to our credit facility to modify the covenants to match the timing of implementing price increases to address inflationary costs and the tripling of interest rates. For further explanation on the reconciliation of items that impacted results and non-GAAP financial measures, please refer to Exhibits 1 to 5 in this morning's earnings press release. I would now like to open the line for questions.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Your first question from the line of Matt Koranda from ROTH MKM.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#6

I guess I'll just start off with my traditional first question, which is, David, if you could provide the breakdown of revenue between rotating electrical wheel brake products and other.

David Lee

executive
#7

Yes, Matt, for the third quarter, rotating electrical was 66%, wheel hubs was 10%, brake-related products was 20% and others was 4%.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#8

Okay. Got it. Very helpful. And then just trying to understand the -- it sounds like you called out 2 different buckets of headwind in the quarter, one being delays in new business, the other being reduced orders from an existing customer. Is that all coming from 1 customer in particular? And is that all in rotating electrical? Maybe if you could just give a little color on why exactly that reduction, which looks pretty stark kind of on a year-over-year basis?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#9

Yes. So it comes on that. It comes from 2 -- a couple of customers predominantly. I mean, it's a mix between rotating electrical and brake calipers, brake rotors and brake pads, really, it's all of those 4. And really, the good news is that those orders have started coming back in, in this quarter. So we're seeing it now. And if the $35 million just gets to normalized reordering patterns, which we expect it will, I mean that should just give us an organic lift next year, not about new business, just about existing business performing to what our expectations. And then the other piece is new business changeovers that have been committed to us, and we had a little bit of a slowdown in the extreme weather and some softening in the base, but that seems to be coming back as well. So that should give us, again, organic lift of that approximately $17 million. And then we've got additional business. We've got additional business that -- new business that will come on board next year that's already committed and quite frankly, some visibility of even more than that. So...

Matt Koranda

analyst
#10

I guess I'm just trying -- Selwyn, I'm just trying to understand it in the context of like you have a decent-sized customer that's reported results today. And inventory looks like it's up mid-teens for them. Comps are super healthy and yet, we're seeing a reduction overall in rotating electrical revenues. I'm just trying to square the 2 and understand sort of why rotating electricals should be down in that context.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#11

Again, relating to one particular customer, I mean, we can't talk about who it is or what it is or why it is. But no market share loss, but we expect that to come back, just really based on their initiatives really more than anything.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#12

I get it. Okay. Sorry I can take the rest of that stuff offline. That's fine.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#13

Okay.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#14

And then just on the -- okay, so the other thing I wanted to understand is the sequential guide, if I take the implied EBITDA guide at the midpoint for the fourth quarter, it's a big step up. We're looking at close to 900 basis points of improvement that you guys are guiding to. Maybe just if you could give us some confidence in the gross margin versus OpEx split in the fourth quarter, how to think about gross margin improvement on a sequential basis. And how much of that is coming from price versus volume. It would be super helpful just to understand a little bit more about what's embedded in your assumptions.

David Lee

executive
#15

This is David. So we can talk about the 3 items we called out during the prepared remarks. So the inflationary costs, that will be addressed by the price increases that are going in. The large price increases have already started at the beginning of this quarter. So that's going to address the inflationary cost. The lower overhead absorption costs that we talked about due to lower production of volume with now higher sales and growing production volumes, that should also address the lower over absorption. Now we did also have product mix. So product mix, we do expect growth in all of our categories. That should help the product mix a little bit. Another item that Selwyn mentioned was the returns. So returns are constant with the lower sales volume in the December quarter. Returns as a percentage of sales was higher. Now back to higher sales volumes, those returns as a percentage of sales will now turn back to normalized levels. Lastly, we do have one product line that, during the December quarter, was impacted by shortages of critical components. We're already seeing that those sales are back up. So with those higher volume product lines, that will also benefit the gross margins.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#16

Okay. All right. And then just -- you mentioned price, David, maybe someone or David on this one. Can you talk about the rounds of price increase? I think last time, you mentioned there was one in October. It sounds like that really didn't benefit the third quarter at all really from a margin perspective. And so there was another round that you had mentioned in the last call that was supposed to take place in January. So I'm assuming you're referring to that as kind of the last round of price increases. And that's what we're counting on to sort of improved gross margins in the fourth quarter, along with volume and then some of the lower return rates that you mentioned there. But just -- am I understanding that correctly? And -- or is there more price that you're embedding beyond the January actions?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#17

No. So, so far, I mean, that is correct, Matt. Those are all committed price increases that have gone into effect. We continue to evaluate our business and market conditions, and we'll evaluate what we'll do on price as we go forward. But as of now, that's where we are. I mean that includes -- the sort of the annualized leftover is $20 million, $20 million on our existing revenue base, about $20 million of price increase. And some of it just started maybe a little more there. But around that, that's left to go into effect on an annual basis.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#18

Okay. Got it. And then in the press release, I think you mentioned brake pad and rotor product line, net sales is expected to double in fiscal '24. That's not overall brake products revenue as a whole, is it?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#19

No.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#20

I mean, we should be taking the run rate around this year and doubling that for next year, but maybe just give a little color on what that implies for overall brake products growth as we head into fiscal '24.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#21

Yes. Well, I think you're going to see overall brake products growth north of 30%, maybe even 40% for next fiscal year. We haven't really given guidance yet on that, but the pads and rotors is fast becoming a big part of that. We've also got other brake-related products in there that are all growing. So we're up to continue to be optimistic there. And margins are starting to unfold there, where we're just getting through some of that start-up margin headwinds and starting to get to a more normalized level, but they'll continue to improve as this volume continues to grow.

Matt Koranda

analyst
#22

Okay. Helpful. I'll take the rest of my questions offline, guys. Thanks.

David Lee

executive
#23

Thank you.

Operator

operator
#24

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Nagel from Oppenheimer.

Brian Nagel

analyst
#25

So my first question, just with respect to the sales disruption in the quarter, I think it's probably a follow-up, to some extent, to the prior question. But just to get to be clear, I mean were the -- are these sales -- in your view, are these sales just simply delayed? Or is there a component that is lost because of this? It sounds like 1 competitor, the adjustments they've made.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#26

I think they are lost. Having said that, that I think this customer will step up orders and to maintain its competitive position, well, I shouldn't say will, are, they are to maintain their competitive position in the marketplace. And so I think we'll see an elevation and a return with them as they increase their inventory levels. But I don't think those are recoverable. The changeover revenue, that $17 million, that's just a deferral.

Brian Nagel

analyst
#27

And then so -- and I followed you. I mean, I've watched your company for a while now. I don't remember something like this happening in the past. So I guess the question is, does this happen? Is this unprecedented? In an event like this, could it be a leading indicator of something else?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#28

It's unprecedented. We have not seen it at the size before. I think it's an indicator of strategy. And again, we can't talk about any of our customers and their strategies. But I think it's an indication of a short-term strategy that's being reversed.

Brian Nagel

analyst
#29

Got it. And shifting gears a bit, just on the supply chain. Looks like here -- I think, David, I think you were making comments here, but just with regard to the ongoing disruptions. So I guess my question is, we've seen broadly speaking, supply chain challenges for your company, for your sector, even more broadly abate, but there's still some out there. Are we still thinking that most of the supply chain issues are more or less transitory in nature? Are we getting now to the point where maybe some of these disruptions will just simply persist or have now become structural?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#30

No. I think they're transitory. We're seeing it getting better and better. As this COVID and factories become more predictable and are able to stay open on a more predictable basis, which we had a massive outbreak of COVID in China and some delays prior to Chinese New Year and coming out of Chinese New Year, but it looks like -- and I'm, by no means, an expert, but it looks like the COVID, while the outbreaks may be luminous, the severity of it seems to be passed. And it seems like -- and again, it's not over yet, but it certainly seems like for us that, as it passes over the predictability of our factory and supply chain, we'll get much better. And we're seeing that already. I mean I'm cautiously optimistic. I do feel like we have to continue to watch what happens in China or in particular, both with COVID, which I think, again, we're able to see it now. And I think it -- hopefully, we're getting through that. And then hopefully, there are no -- I'm not sure what the other political ramifications will be as we go down the road, just the whole geopolitical situation in the world now is a little crazy. But I think it's stabilizing. Freight seems to have stabilized, and that's a transcontinental freight that seems to have stabilized. We still have a lot of headwind in local freight. And -- but hopefully, capacity in the roads will catch up and that part of the freight equation will get better. But for now, that's sort of a headwind and then predictability on semiconductor chips and some of these Chinese factories are still -- there's still some headwinds there.

Operator

operator
#31

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Bill Dezellem from Titan Capital Markets.

William Dezellem

analyst
#32

Relative to the $17 million of new business that was delayed, did we hear you correctly that, that is now coming back or ramping up here this quarter that has already begun?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#33

Yes, that has begun, and we're excited about it, yes, continues to ramp up.

William Dezellem

analyst
#34

And what category or categories is that in?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#35

Yes. It's a mix, Bill. I mean, predominantly brake-related and electric vehicle, I mean, in general.

William Dezellem

analyst
#36

Okay. And then next, relative to the delayed orders kind of the $14 million, given that you have price increases that were taking place at the beginning of the fourth quarter, what would cause a customer to delay the shipments? It seems as though they're just instituting a price increase on themselves by doing that.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#37

That's a good point. No question about that. And again, very -- we just can't talk about what our customers are doing, unfortunately or fortunately. I mean, it's just -- it's something that's up to them. This is just so extreme that we felt was appropriate to call out. So I mean, I prefer not to go down that road, but the comments that I can make are, yes, that orders that are coming in now will be at a higher price. And yes, the orders have resumed coming in. And we feel like they have a strong strategy going forward and that we should benefit from it. And we'll be keeping a close eye on it as it progresses.

William Dezellem

analyst
#38

So counter to what one would normally expect to see, which is orders in advance of a price increase, they just ignored that. And it sounds like you did not give them a special deal where they were able to have the old price but a later shipment?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#39

That is correct.

William Dezellem

analyst
#40

And by the way, thank you for not giving them a special deal. Also, where are you all at from a back to work in the office, hybrid versus work from home? Where are you at in that whole scheme of things?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#41

That's -- that differs by department. A number of people are back in the office on a full-time basis. Some of the people, more of the analytics and data-driven people are on 2 days a week mandatory, but many of them come into the office. And so we have flexed schedules by department.

William Dezellem

analyst
#42

And are you at all feeling like it may be time to have people in the office more frequently given these external challenges that are coming at you and that may be more quickly and readily addressed if there's more person-to-person contact?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#43

Yes. I don't -- I think that the meetings are extremely effective remote and hybrid as people in and out the office. But I will say, just as COVID settles and as we get through the winter months, I mean, we'd be evaluating a full-time return to the office in the spring and summer.

William Dezellem

analyst
#44

And if I may ask one more relative to the vendor finance programs. What progress has been made at finding a solution there?

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#45

Yes, I can't discuss that unfortunately at this point.

Operator

operator
#46

And there are no further questions at this time. I'd turn the call back over to Selwyn for some final closing comments.

Selwyn Joffe

executive
#47

Thank you very much. I appreciate everybody's questions. And I appreciate the interest. I will say that sort of to summarize where we are, that notwithstanding the headwinds that I discussed this morning, we are excited about our future. We have built a solid foundation for both top line and bottom line growth for our existing product lines. And it is supported by strong demand for replacement parts and an aging car part. In closing, we have great team members, and I appreciate their dedication to the company and our customers. We appreciate your continued support and we thank you again for joining us for the call. We look forward to speaking with you when we host our fiscal 2023 fourth quarter and year-end conference call in June and at investor conferences in the future. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#48

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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