Music Broadcast Limited (RADIOCITY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 4, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Music Broadcast Limited Q3 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. Please note, this conference call may contain forward-looking statements about the company, which are based on the beliefs, opinions and expectations of the company as on date of this call. These statements are not the guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. I now hand the conference over to the CEO of the company, Mr. Abraham Thomas. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Abraham Thomas
executiveThank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and a very warm welcome to the quarter 3 earnings conference call of Music Broadcast Limited. Joining me on the call today is Mr. Rajiv Shah, our Chief Financial Officer. During the quarter, the company continued to execute on the strategic realignment initiatives announced earlier, aimed at strengthening profitability, optimizing costs and improving operational efficiency. These actions are now beginning to reflect in our financial performance, particularly on margins and bottom line improvement. As highlighted in the previous quarter, we undertook several decisive measures across manpower, programming and digital initiatives. The benefits of these actions were more visible during quarter 3 with prudent cost controls and better operating leverage. Our focus remains firmly on cost discipline, efficient content delivery and improving monetization across platforms. Most importantly, these initiatives do not compromise operational efficiency or market presence while positioning the company for sustainable profitability. The financial performance for Q3 FY '26, the financial highlights are for Q3 FY '26, the company reported revenue of INR 46.4 crores, reflecting a 23% quarter-on-quarter growth driven by improved advertiser activity and seasonal momentum. Total income stood at INR 54.8 crores. On the profitability front, Operating EBITDA for the quarter was INR 15.9 crores compared to INR 1.3 crores in quarter 2 FY '26, demonstrating a significant improvement in operating performance. EBITDA margins expanded to 34%, reflecting the impact of cost rationalization and operating leverage. Operating EBITDA stood at INR 9.1 crores with EBIT margins improving to 20%. After accounting for finance costs and taxes, the adjusted profit after tax after interest on NCRPS stood at INR 6 crores compared to a loss in the previous quarter. Reported PAT for the quarter was INR 4.1 crores, making a strong sequential turnaround. The 9-month performance of the company ended December 2025, total income stood at INR 155.8 crores. EBITDA was INR 25.3 crores. While year-on-year numbers remain impacted due to softer advertising environment, the sequential trend reflects a clear improvement in business momentum and profitability. The advertising environment during the quarter showed gradual recovery, supported by festive demand and improved sentiment across categories. Radio City continues to maintain its strong advertiser relationships and remained a preferred platform for clients seeking effective regional and mass reach. Our continued focus on alternate revenue streams, including branded content, properties, sponsorships and integrated solutions also supports revenue diversification and resilience. Looking ahead, we remain cautiously optimistic. The structural cost actions undertaken, combined with improved advertising demand position us well to sustain margin improvement, drive profitable growth and strengthen cash flows. We will continue to focus on disciplined execution and capital efficiency while navigating near-term uncertainties. With that, I would now request the moderator to open the floor for questions and answers.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from the line of [ K. Maro ] an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. My first question is regarding our court issue with Phonographic. And I just want to know about the maximum amount involved. That means the amount in dispute. That means what could be the maximum liability that may occur.
Rajiv Shah
executiveSee, the liability is not quantifiable. And as per our stand, we believe there should not be any outflow as per our legal opinion and our case looks to be strong, and we are waiting now for the hearing at the Supreme Court level. We don't see any outflow going.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. So any approx figure?
Rajiv Shah
executiveWe cannot quantify this since it's sub-judice and we have a strong case, and we don't see any financial outflow of this.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. And this court case is with reference to the year 2010 and 2020. Am I correct, sir?
Rajiv Shah
executiveYes.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. So is there any possibility of the same type of a dispute that may occur thereafter, I mean, after 2020?
Rajiv Shah
executiveNo. After that, the copyright Board order has been followed and which nobody is disputing.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeGot it. Got it, sir. So can I go ahead with another question, sir?
Rajiv Shah
executivePlease go ahead.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI want to know the gross debt as on 31st December, gross debt.
Rajiv Shah
executiveThere is no debt on the company's books.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeNo, I'm talking about not net debt. I'm talking about gross debt.
Rajiv Shah
executiveThere is no debt on the company's book. The only debt is the preference shares, which was already redeemed.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Got it. So now what is the cash position, net cash as on 31st December?
Rajiv Shah
executiveIt is INR 373 crores.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. It's a net cash available as on 31st December.
Rajiv Shah
executiveAs on 31st December.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ Meghana ] an individual investor. Since there is no response, we'll move on to the next question from the line of Chandramouli Jagannathan, an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeNow you said that you have a net cash of about INR 373 crores. But you would have redeemed in January the NCRPS about INR 107 crores. So after that, it's still -- I mean, minus thing that it will be roughly about INR 260 crores, you mean to say, right?
Rajiv Shah
executiveCorrect. We asked it as on 31st December. So that is the figure as on 31st December. As on today, it is INR 261 crores.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Okay. And normally, where you just put the interest cost for the NCRPS about INR 2.5 crores, INR 3 crores on a quarterly basis, roughly about INR 11 crores, INR 12 crores on a yearly basis, which will go out from the next -- current quarter, right?
Rajiv Shah
executiveFor 1 month, it will be there for January. And after that, there will be no interest on NCRPS.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo that means next year, the interest cost will be negligible overall as a company. Am I right?
Rajiv Shah
executiveYes, it will be negligible, correct.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Sir, if that is the case, you know that the company's market cap right now is only about INR 200-plus crores, whereas the company net cash is INR 260 crores in spite of the business is not -- but can you guys normally consider about a buyback, the buyback tax is also kind of attractive after the new budget [indiscernible] as a group..
Rajiv Shah
executiveThis, I will not be able to comment right now. The proposal has just come in.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. So what would be -- because in the last quarter, you guys are paying about quarter-on-quarter, the incremental benefit of the cost-cutting measures and things like that will be around INR 6 crores, INR 7 crores. Will it continue? I mean next year will be a good year for music broadcast, if that is the case on the profitability front?
Rajiv Shah
executiveShould be.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo what is the growth that you expect next year, sir?
Rajiv Shah
executiveSo it will depend on how the industry behaves. So right now, we are not in a position to give any guidance for the next year.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. It's not on a top line, at least on a bottom line, there will be a decent growth because of all these measures, right?
Rajiv Shah
executiveYes. There should be -- see, if we say INR 6 crores, we are saving around INR 24 crores on the expenses front and around INR 7 crores on the NCRPS interest. So around INR 30 crores saving in the expense should be there.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. So that will straight away get into a PBT, if I'm right?
Rajiv Shah
executiveYes.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Okay, sir. Okay. Please my humble request from our side to consider buyback where the whatever, whatever thing where we can return to our shareholders. So apart from that NCRPS, there is nothing pending, right? It's all over because it got redeemed in January.
Rajiv Shah
executiveYes, everything is done.
Operator
operatorWe'll take our next question from the line of [ Rajakumar Vaidyanathan ] from RK Invest.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, first of all, congrats for the better set of numbers for this quarter. So I can see the cost savings that you articulated in the last call is kind of fructified this quarter. Sir, the question is still there is a revenue degrowth there compared to year-on-year. So when do you think that this will get addressed?
Abraham Thomas
executiveSo you're right, the advertising market outside is subdued, and there is -- there is also an impact of substantial election political spending last year same quarter due to the assembly elections. So that also has kind of added to the degrowth if you were to compare it to the previous year. So things are slowly getting better. We are expecting things to remain stable going forward.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. So is it fair to assume that you will not lose money on the bottom line going forward given that all the cost initiatives have been baked in?
Abraham Thomas
executiveYes, that is the attempt. I think these cost cuts are sustainable. We are able to manage the business efficiently without impacting any listener experience or advertiser experience. So the cost cuts are definitely sustainable. So it's about growing the top line, looking at alternate revenue streams going forward.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And the cost cuts are fully baked in, in this quarter or some more will be coming up in the upcoming quarters?
Abraham Thomas
executiveNo, most of the cost cuts are over. Actually, cost cuts are complete. And therefore, this is now going to be the stable figure going forward.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd lastly, sir, my question is, do you think that this industry is on a downward path because I can see the revenue is coming down, though people are working hard to maintain the bottom line. The way the market is not giving -- I mean, you can see the stock is trading way below the book value. Is it due to the fact that the industry is being perceived on a downward slope?
Abraham Thomas
executiveSo there is definitely a subdued advertiser sentiment. Having said that, the business itself is now changing towards the Tier 2, Tier 3 markets where there is increased spending from clients. And we have a robust 39 station network across all these markets. So we believe we'll get the advantage of being present in these smaller markets, which is now beginning to show growth.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. And lastly, did you hear anything from the government on the ad rates because in the last call, you mentioned that you are expecting some hike in the rates.
Abraham Thomas
executiveNot yet. We are in continuous talks with them, and we are hopeful of some announcement from that soon.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. So it will come in this quarter or...
Abraham Thomas
executiveThere is no commitment because they are still considering it. So we have no indication when it will come in.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. And one more question on the AI. Do you use AI in your deliverables? Is it one of the reasons that you are able to cut costs?
Abraham Thomas
executiveActually, we have an AI radio jock, which is -- which we have now introduced RJ Sia. And so we are trying to use that to do advertiser integrated solutions and spots and all of that. So that's one part where AI is clearly coming in from a listener and advertiser point of view. Otherwise, we do use some of the tools available for smarter copywriting and smarter content creation wherever we can integrate with our programming.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ Meghana ] an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo I wanted to ask what is the FCT and NF split for the quarter?
Rajiv Shah
executiveFCT and NFCT split.
Abraham Thomas
executiveIt's about -- I think NFCT is approximately about 20% of our revenue.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. And what has been the inventory utilization like?
Abraham Thomas
executiveInventory utilization is about 85% to 90% on a 15-minute per hour basis.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay, this is for the quarter?
Abraham Thomas
executiveYes. For the quarter, it will be about close to 90% inventory utilization, assuming 15 minutes per hour is the cap.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. And what about the volume growth for Q3?
Abraham Thomas
executiveSo the volume has actually shown a degrowth according to Aircheck of minus 4%. That is what Aircheck data shows that radio volumes have degrown by minus 4%. And YTD, it's about minus 1%.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. YTD 5%. And your rates have increased or decreased this quarter? And how is it like if we compare to pre-COVID levels?
Abraham Thomas
executiveThe rates are stable. They are kind of at the same level. So they are lower than pre-COVID levels and the [indiscernible].
Unknown Attendee
attendeeHow much?
Rajiv Shah
executiveSo it would be around 75% of the pre-COVID numbers.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. And we saw some savings in employee cost and other expenses. So like on the employee cost front, what have we done?
Abraham Thomas
executiveWe have actually rationalized the whole manpower thing earlier. There were different teams that we have now consolidated and merged into one team. So they are more -- so that resulted in some amount of savings. Even in terms of programming, we have kind of rationalized the content and a lot of regional content is going from one station to the other. So the format of the on-air has actually been rationalized and which has led to some amount of content savings and manpower savings.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. So you have basically transitioned to leaner teams, is it?
Abraham Thomas
executiveYes. And more vertical teams rather than multiple horizontal teams.
Operator
operatorWe have a follow-up question from the line of [ Rajakumar Vaidyanathan ] from RK Invest. His line is disconnected. [Operator Instructions]. As there are no further questions, we have one question from the line of [ Mani ] an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI just wanted to understand in terms of your digital venture that you're doing, how do you guys make money? And what are the source of revenue in those mediums? If you can explain about that, it would be helpful.
Abraham Thomas
executiveSo broadly, this whole business has transformed into a solutions business, and we are trying to create solutions for clients for their marketing challenges. So the solutions that we now create are not restrict to radio alone. They also include digital solution, and it also includes maybe an on-ground extension of that. So digital solutions is beginning to play an important part in driving outcomes, and this is what is reflecting in what all advertisers are beginning to now starting to adopt. So that's how -- so there is digital solutions, which is an idea which we create and which is executed on the digital assets. And then there is also a revenue which comes from our own digital assets and the revenue that comes from social media and YouTube and all that. So these are the 2 digital revenues that we get. But in the solutions play, there are lots of areas, whether it's influencer marketing, whether it is integration of an idea into the content and so on and so forth. So digital solutions, we see playing an important part to drive digital revenues.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeYes. But is there a way that in the digital solutions offerings that you do, you get to capitalize on the strength that you have in your radio network? Or that is a completely different field altogether?
Abraham Thomas
executiveIn fact, it is driven by our strength in radio. So we use the combination of radio plus digital to drive more effective solutions. So even if it's like a creation of a podcast for a client, a series of podcasts that the client wishes to create, we create it for them, but we also drive audiences to the podcast through radio. So the radio plus digital works well for us, given our strength in radio.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Got it. But for people who offer digital solutions, they can continue to use your radio medium as an advertising to drive revenue.
Abraham Thomas
executiveYes. We try and integrate it smartly for them, so it's seamless for the consumer.
Operator
operatorNext question is from [ Rajakumar Vaidyanathan ] from RK Invest.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, the question is, given your lower market cap, would it not make sense for you to fold it under Jagran, you can at least consolidate all your costs and...
Abraham Thomas
executiveNo comments on this right now.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo is it something which you are exploring or...
Rajiv Shah
executiveNo, we cannot -- this is something we will not be able to comment right now.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. No. I mean my question is, would it make sense from a prudent standpoint? That's what I'm asking. Are there any legal restrictions not to -- I mean, to operate as 2 separate entities?
Abraham Thomas
executiveRight now, as again, no comments on this right now.
Operator
operatorAs there are no further questions, I now hand the conference back to Mr. Abraham Thomas for closing comments. Over to you, sir.
Abraham Thomas
executiveIn closing, to conclude, quarter 3 FY '26 marks an important inflection point for the company with a clear turnaround in profitability and operating performance. We believe the steps taken over the last few quarters have strengthened the foundation of the business and improved our ability to deliver consistent value to the stakeholders. Thank you all for joining us today.
Operator
operatorThank you. On behalf of Music Broadcast Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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