Natera, Inc. (NTRA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 11, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Kyle Mikson
analystHi. Welcome to the 41st Annual Canaccord Genuity Global Growth Conference. I'm Kyle Mikson, from Life Science Tools & Diagnostics at Canaccord. And we're pleased to have Natera here with us today. Natera is a pioneer and global leader in cell-free DNA testing from a simple blood draw. The mission of company is to change the management of disease worldwide with focus on women's health, oncology and organ health. Representing the company, we have Mike Brophy, CFO. Great to have you here, Mike. Thanks for joining us today.
Mike Brophy
executiveThanks for having me, Kyle. Great to be here.
Kyle Mikson
analystSure. So Mike, just set the stage. So let's start with the 2Q results. So Natera announced last week results ahead of your preliminary numbers announced July 19, and you increased your revenue guidance to $620 million, which is impressive given you started 2021 with guidance of $500 million to $525 million. So I guess what drove the broad-based success in the second quarter? And then looking forward, what are the company's expectations regarding volume, patient flow and self-access in the second half of the year?
Mike Brophy
executiveYes. I mean, thanks for the question. So the -- yes, both the Q2 results, I think, and the revised guide for the year really come from the -- just strengthen the volume growth. We've had a tremendous amount of success across each of the businesses. In the women's health business, we're, I think, in the early stages of a secular trend where there's something like 1 million to 1.25 million NIPTs being run in the United States today, and there's something like 4 million to 5 million eligible pregnancies in the United States. So that's a huge gap. And just last fall, the two relevant professional societies, The Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine specialists and the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists put out a joint practice bulletin recommending NIPT as effectively the standard of care for pregnant women in the U.S. So now you have this huge gap between the number of NIPTs being run and the number of NIPTs that probably will be getting run in the next few years. And we're starting to see that growth. We're just starting to see that market penetration. As a market leader, we feel like we're very well positioned to get more than our fair share that just natural increase in the NIPT testing market. When we grow the NIPT business, that gets amplified in our business by the fact that we very often also get a carrier screening test ordered at the same time as the NIPT. And we also get a microdeletion test ordered very frequently along with the NIPT. So for every 100 NIPTs, there's something like a little more than 40 carrier screening tests that get ordered for every 100 NIPT users, something like 75 microdeletion tests that get ordered. So we're very well positioned to take this one kind of macro trend and see it really amplified in our business. So that's kind of about the women's health business. Transplant and oncology, I think they're really kind of in the same zone, which is -- we're launching these products. I mean we launched our transplant business about a year ago. We launched the oncology business really in Q3, Q4, but it's really only into Q1 where we had a commercial presence calling on the community oncologists. And so Q2 is really the kind of the first full quarter where everyone's kind of been in their seat and know where to go and have their interests and things like that. And we've seen the -- we see we've been very pleased with the way that the volumes have really ramped there. I mean, there's a tremendous amount of demand and excitement for Signatera and Prospera. And so that we've never ramped our volume guide in that way in previous years. I mean we take the guidance very, very seriously. We set what we think is accurate guidance. It's not a layup. It's going to require good execution, but it's something that we feel -- we take very seriously. It's not aspirational either. We feel very -- we take it very seriously that we hit it. We've never set a guide in March. Totally re-rated that guide in May and then come back in August and had to completely re-rate upwards again in August, and that's just a function of where we are as a business, just as good a time as we've ever been -- ever seen in NIPT and then launching these wonderful new products.
Kyle Mikson
analystGot it. Yes. And I'm glad you went over all the businesses. It's clearly a broad-based strength in the quarter. And then can we talk about kind of the macro trends with NIPT? You are the market leader, entered the space in 2013 and the impressive with -- Panorama has been impressive. It's been a really strong performance, right? And I think that's driven by the kind of the quality of performance of the test itself as well as the commercial structure and performance of your sales team. So can you just talk about other factors that driven the kind of unique commercial success of the product and whether that's the actual technology itself? Or like I said, just your investments to kind of beef up the infrastructure?
Mike Brophy
executiveYes, there's two things. I mean there's the core technology itself and then there's the commercial execution. So on the technology itself, I think it's worth understanding that while nominally, there's a lot of competition within the NIPT space. There's a much different labs that will offer you NIPT. In terms of the technologies, for almost the last decade, there's really only been two technologies effectively. There's been a shotgun sequencing approach that was innovated by kind of the first mover in the space, which was acquired by LabCorp, more than, I think, like 6 years ago now. And that IP from that first company is now kind of jointly owned between LabCorp and Illumina. So all these other labs essentially they have their own branding, their own sales reps, but the back-end technology is paying the license into LabCorp and Illumina for the recipe, and they're just using a shotgun sequencing approach, where they're just kind of quantitating the amount of cell-free DNA they find on the sample. If the amount of data they find exceeds the certain reference quantity, then they call that aneuploidies. reasonably well for Down syndrome. It doesn't work as well for some of the other disorders that you want to track in a pregnancy. Compare that to Panorama, where we take the time to actually separate maternal DNA, some fetal DNA that we get out of the tube of blood, then we use a set of PCR primers that we can multiplex at a massive scale that we continue to work on for the last 10 years to continue to optimize. Instead of just kind of randomly kind of amplifying in the genome, we actually go and we amplify a specific regions of genome called call SNPs, okay? So you and I have almost the exact same genome file. I mean it's shocking, and you can put us next to a rack to them. It's amazing how common chromosome varies. And obviously, we've got some significant differences in terms of our phenotypes and what we look like and things like that. If you want to go looking for the differences between people, the most productive places they look are the areas in the genome where there is no wild type or the variability of the human population exceeds 1%. Those are the SNPs or single-nucleotide polymorphisms. So we just go and we selectively amplify just those SNPs for mother and separately for baby. And then we use informatics approach to basically build up billions of hypotheses of what the fetus should look like based on what we've seen on the other. Then we compare all these hypotheses to what we've actually seen on the child, because we've separated mom from baby. And inevitably, there's a match. And so this -- there is kind of 2-step process allows you to apply basic statistics, allows you to have a confidence statistic in your call, and it leads to a very accurate result, very sensitive result. So hopefully, just from that, you didn't have to understand every single thing I just said. I just -- at a high level, just understanding the differences between the two technologies cover certain performance advantages on the test. So when we launched the test in 2013, we were fourth to market. We're up against some very deep popular players. Natera's basically a startup. And yet by 2015, we're clearly the market leader. I think that was really on the strength of the technology itself. We've now paired that effectively over the last decade or so with a very effective commercial operation. So our CEO, Steve Chapman, was the first commercial employee that was ever hired here in 2010. So prior to Natera, Steve was a very successful sales rep in Genzyme Genetics, which was kind of the first molecular diagnostics company in the world. So he really grew up in the space. And since he's been here, he's built a commercial operation. So particularly within the women's health business, and it's also true for our new businesses, any person who's -- any sales rep who has any level of responsibility, who's been here a while, is probably hired by Steve seeing those efforts. We've kind of built up a team, a cadre of people who know how to execute on the commercial side. You don't have to take my word for that. You can just look at the historical volumes and look at the progress we've made. Quarter in, quarter out, we've been able to grow the volumes. So being able to combine this very flexible and sensitive technology for cell -- for detecting cell-free DNA in plasma with a very effective commercial operation has been the kind of core to our success. The strategy is really just to leverage that in the same exact chemistries, same commercial ethos and operations in the new businesses as well.
Kyle Mikson
analystOkay. And I appreciate the deep dive on the technology. That's helpful. I appreciate it. And then like moving to just the economics on that business. We've had pretty solid margins, ASPs of like $300, $400 and COGS per test. So they seem like the economics, the margins will improve over time. I guess what are you doing? What will happen? What drivers will cause that margin to kind of increase over time? Where you see margins kind of getting to, I guess, on the business?
Mike Brophy
executiveYes. I mean, there's no reason why this can't be a 70%-plus gross margin kind of business. I mean, maybe it's worth kind of just taking a tour through the unit economics in each of the businesses and in NIPT, in particular, within women's health, we still feel like long run average selling prices can be around $400. And I think the contracted rates today are in the $600 range. So that getting to $400 allows for significant kind of contracted price erosion, but it also allows for just the fact that we're going to be getting paid on a higher percentage of our test volumes now than what we were getting previously. So let's just say about $400 in ASP on the NIPT business. At the same time, the cost of goods sold have just continued to come down. Again, the COGS -- a few years ago, the COGS for NIPT were above $300, $350. They're now $160. So we've got clear line of sight based on projects that people are actively working on in our R&D operation to get the cost of goods sold down below $125. And there's other slightly longer run projects that would get you down considerably below $100. So if you think over like a 3- to 5-year time horizon, just NIPT is something like $375 to $425 on the average selling price per unit and the cost of goods sold is something like $100 per unit, where you're already kind of above that kind of 70% gross margin range. That's just the NIPT business. That completely ignores the opportunity that we have in microdeletions where, as I mentioned, it's a very high attachment rate to NIPT today. We get paid on that very rarely, even though the contractor rates are similar to NIPT as a stand-alone test. I mean just for microdeletions, the contractor rates are also within the $600 range. The ASPs are very low. We get paid a single-digit percentage of the time when we submitted the claims to that test. That's because we just don't have coverage policies in place. We don't have a guideline from ACOG and SMFM. So we've run a 5-year 20,000-patient prospective clinical trials to try and trying to address that, which is now -- the data has been presented and now it's submission for publication. So that's still kind of a call option, I think, but if you could get -- and I'm making these numbers up, but I mean like you can get another $100, $200 in ASP from the microdeletion test, now you're really talking. This is a business with ramping towards above 1 million tests a year at $500 to $600 ASP and $100 cost. So that becomes an amazing business. But even the base case, I think it is quite powerful. On the -- in the transplant business, maybe long-run ASPs, I mean, it's largely a Medicare reimbursed business. Medicare rate is 20, 21 per test in transplant. The COGS are quite manageable there, because we leverage the same workflows in chemistries as we've been optimizing for NIPT. So COGS are in the 300 range, 400 range right now. And there's room for those to go down as well. So obviously, that's a very high-margin product. I think ASPs in transplant are probably in the over time. They're probably in the 1,500 to 1,700 range just to be conservative about where pricing can go. Even at that rate, I mean, that's -- it's an incredibly high margin business. And then finally, oncology. The oncology, we have had so many reimbursement successes, which I'm happy to talk about it more detail. But just to quickly summarize, I mean I don't think it's unreasonable to think about Signatera ASPs 1,500 to 2,500. I know there's -- that's a big range, but I mean that's kind of a function of where we are in terms of commercialization. There a couple of blended cost of goods sold there. The repeat monitoring tests also leverage the same chemistries that have similar COGS profile as the transplant test and given upfront exome, which over time will cost you $700 kind of upfront, $600 upfront. So maybe blended cost of $400 to $500. You can kind of see where the margins here and each of the businesses are much, much higher above where we are currently. And that just differentiates where we are in growth phase.
Kyle Mikson
analystGot it. Okay. That was great. And let's move on to some of the other, I guess, businesses other than NIPT in a second, but I just want to stick on kind of expanding the market opportunity. And then recently, with the results last week kind of expanded the TAM a little bit, and you talked about like expansion there. So it does sound crazy though to kind of think about expanding the number of pregnancies that could have NIPT done, right? Because I guess the growth has been standing over the past few years. What are the factors that are really driving that going forward? Whether that's coverage or just awareness or accepting sort of the guidelines. And just given some of the recent progress in those areas over the years, what are the company's expectations in terms of how large accessible market you get to currently and is today and could get to over time?
Mike Brophy
executiveIs that specifically for NIPT, Kyle? Or do you want to talk about oncology there? I wasn't sure which...
Kyle Mikson
analystYes, NIPT, because there's a lot of kind of moving pieces there.
Mike Brophy
executiveYes. I mean I think like the way -- I think NIPT is kind of very simply on the way I described it on the top call. That's kind of -- that is depending on what the estimate you use. There's 4 million to 5 million eligible pregnancies out there, and there's only 1 million, 1.5 million NIPTs being run. So the predicate kind of devices here, the quad screen and some of the older noninvasive prenatal screening technologies got to very high percentage penetration. They got to like 80% plus penetration. And they weren't nearly as effective as a test as NIPTs are, just as a class. So I think there's no reason to think why you couldn't get NIPT penetration also to that kind of 80%, 90% kind of level, which would imply 3.5 million to 4 million NIPTs being run. Well, that's -- you're 3x-ing, 4x-ing the size of the market as it stands today, and we're the market leader. We have -- like we have a very clearly differentiated tests, as I described. We've got a very clearly differentiated data. I don't think anyone could disagree with that. So we're very well positioned to ride away, as this market expands just within the U.S. And then as we drive NIPT volume, as I mentioned, we also have been very effective and also being able to offer carrier screening testing and microdeletions testing. So that's kind of how I think the market is going to evolve there. So it's just -- there's going to be market penetration. There's always going to be competition. Company has probably been more rational in the last year than it had been 5 years ago, which I'm happy to get into the right. But we feel like we're in a fantastic position, and we don't mind continuing.
Kyle Mikson
analystAwesome. I'd love to stay on that topic. Let's just actually switch gears to oncology. It seems like every cancer diagnosis company today has some sort of MRD program or test right now, CRs obviously the low-hanging fruits. Signatera was launched a few years ago, 2017 for RUO and then 2019 for probably commercially speaking. It's performed nicely recently, as you were saying, the quality and the quantity of the published data has been pretty impressive. I guess like with that background, with that context, what is it that makes MRD such an attractive market, almost like a table stakes kind of area towards these diagnostics comes to that?
Mike Brophy
executiveWell, it's an enormous unmet need. I mean the -- it's -- I get a little bit of whiplash to hear you say -- hear you asked how is it such a table stakes opportunity for all diagnostic companies. I mean I remember coming to conferences like this only a few years ago, like 2017, 2018, and all the questions would be in NIPT, and I would like force a commercial on why MRD matters for 30 seconds, and the analysts will be annoyed and the investors wouldn't care. But I would like to try and make my pitch as to why no one else was even really pursuing MRD. So maybe it's worth understanding like why did we pursue MRD and recurrence monitoring. Well, we -- I'd say what we didn't do. We did not hire a consultant to kind of review the oncology landscape and identify and we identified that this is a big market, and then we've built something that work there. We looked at the -- we started with the patients and said, what are the unmet needs? Like what are the -- these are just not being well served by the current suite of diagnostics companies out there in oncology. And critically, which of those needs, does our existing technology that we've been honing for the last 10 years fit really well as a solution. And that's where MRD was a perfect fit. Huge unmet need, but critically, you need a very sensitive, very flexible technology that's reasonably cheap to run, that you can run on a repeat basis and detect minute quantities of cell-free DNA from the tumor circulating in the plasma. There's one fragmented -- one fragment of a mutation in a tube of blood you want to be able to catch that. That fits in perfectly with the chemistry that we've been building for the last 10 years, and we've been honing in the service of making a great noninvasive prenatal test. It's exactly what you need for this type of market. And so that's when we started generating data. And so now that we've shown that, one that the technology works; and two, the huge difference you can make for patients in that setting, which I'm happy to kind of give you a case study, if you like; and three, you can get reimbursed. Medicare understands that this is a prime unmet need, and they've been very aggressive in wanting to get -- reimburse the test in areas that make sense. So once you kind of prove those things, now it's kind of obvious to everyone, and now there will be competition, which is fantastic. The difference, though, for us is that, we've had a 10-year head start on the technology side, and we've had now a 3- or 4-year head start in terms of generating data. So we've done an enormous kind of first move advantage here.
Kyle Mikson
analystOkay. And I'm tempted to talk about tumor-informed tumor-agnostic, but let's just -- we have a few minutes left, so let's just like right. So reimbursement for cancer recently, you got the ADLT it's up from like 800 or so. So could you talk about how that new rate flows into the P&L? Just given that like negotiations with payers are still ongoing with private payers? And I guess just where do you think that volumes will flow to over time with outside the actual window for current funder and things like that?
Mike Brophy
executiveYes. So the ADLT was an enormous success for us. The centric enacted the ADLT legislation was designed to reward innovation. It's designed to reward the first movers in the space. And so when you want to apply for an ADLT designation, the front page of the application has kind of 2 check boxes like are you FDA-approved? Yes and no. And then if not, so for all LVPs -- essentially the only CMS reimbursed technology that addresses this indication, and that's going to be very broadly written. And because we were the first mover here, we're able to check the box on that second box on the application. And then we went through about a year long process to actually get the ADLT. And as a result of being the first mover, we were able to achieve premium pricing for the test. So the way that reimbursement used to work was for patients in an adjuvant treatment window. So 6 -- in the case of colorectal cancer, that's 6 months post surgery. You're in this kind of what we call the minimal residual disease space where we're trying to figure out what's your next steps in terms of your care. In an adjuvant window, Medicare will pay us basically a subscription of $6,000 per patient. But within that adjuvant window, the patients free to get one Signatera test or 10 Signatera tests if they want. Usually, we will get between 1 and 3. And we -- in return for that subscription, we get paid $6,000 per patient, okay? Beyond the adjuvant window, the previous reimbursement was $795 for every single repeat blood draw, okay? With the ADLT designation, each of those repeat blood test will now get reimbursed at $3,500 per blood draw, okay? So as the product matures, as we've been out there -- as we get out there for longer, a higher and higher proportion of our patients are going to be outside that first 6 months. There's going to be a long tail of people, who are just kind of getting the recurrence monitoring, and that's being accretive to the ASP through the overall business, let alone at Signatera. So I think that's a very important change in the business. And it's one of the benefits of being the first mover.
Kyle Mikson
analystGot it. We're kind of just nearing the end here. Maybe just quickly, want to just talk about some of the -- kind of expanding the patient population for Signatera, got data coming out? Do you expand the potential market to -- I think it was like 13 million testers now.
Mike Brophy
executiveYes. I mean there's 2 markets the way that we think about it, and we probably don't have time to do justice here, but I'd encourage people if they're interested, just go over the website and take a look at the earnings call deck. It's on our IR page on our website. And one of the last slides in the deck is just a waterfall chart of different indications, quantified by the estimated number of Signatera tests per year that we feel could be generated in each indication kind of like as a TAM for each of these different indications with oncology. There's a set of indications, which we think of as an immediate-term indications or kind of low-hanging through indications, as you mentioned. And these are ones where a couple of things are true. There's -- the use case in the clinical utility is self-evident based on the current standard of care. Signatera makes an enormous difference right away. Two, it fits in beautifully with kind of the current kind of treatment modalities for the patient, oftentimes, that, for example, the physician is already accustomed to doing blood draws to try and catch recurrences or just using some ancient protein biomarker or something that was work that well. And then three, we've generated interesting data and we've had conversations with Medicare, and we feel like we can get reimbursed in this indication. So all those things have to be true in order to kind of land on the left-hand side of that chart. You sum up the number of tests per year that are available to us there. It's 3 million to 4 million tests per year. That's an enormous market opportunity at the kind of pricing that I just described previously. That's just the immediate term. That's just -- we're going to be running hard on those, getting reimbursed on those, launching in those indications that is commercially here over the next couple of years. What I often get from investors is, well, okay, yes, you'll be able to penetrate that market, but then inevitably, your growth will slow. And by the middle of the decade, you ought to be -- you're going to have a kind of a lower multiple that you have now. And maybe that's true, but I just want people to understand that we could really just be hitting our stride in cancer in the middle of this decade. And that's because there are some much, much larger indications that would be good candidates for Signatera, we think. But in order to unlock those indications, both the reimbursement and the adoption, we need to generate kind of multiyear prospective interventional data that shows that, hey, prospectively in a big trial, when we intervene on the basis of Signatera in some way, that actually improve outcomes for patients perspective, okay? So examples of those are like breast cancer, lung cancer is another one. Colorectal cancer in Japan is another example of a very large market opportunity that we won't really be able to access until '23, '24, '25, but we're already running the clinical trials necessary to unlock those markets. So that's -- those trials take years to win and then they take more years to actually read out. And so we started this process in 2017, 2018 and what we're looking forward to unlocking those in the middle of the decade. So it's a very interesting time for Natera, and I feel like we will have significant growth opportunities well into the decade here.
Kyle Mikson
analystYes. There's a lot to look forward to. There's a lot that we didn't cover today. I would definitely recommend investors going to the past earnings calls through the website to look further...
Mike Brophy
executiveOr call me. Give me a call. I'm happy to chat.
Kyle Mikson
analystThanks, Mike, for calling out. I hope to see you next year. Enjoy the rest of the conference.
Mike Brophy
executiveThanks, Kyle. I appreciate it. Awesome. Take care.
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