Nava Limited (NAVA.BO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 7, 2025

BSE IN Industrials Industrial Conglomerates earnings 33 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Nava Limited Q2 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call hosted by ICICI Securities Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Mohit Kumar from ICICI Securities. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Mohit Kumar

analyst
#2

Thank you. Good evening. On behalf of ICICI Securities, I welcome you all to the Q2 FY '26 Earnings Call of Nava Limited. Today, we have with us from the management, Mr. Ashwin Devineni, Managing Director and CEO; Mr. GRK Prasad, Executive Director; Mr. Nikhil Devineni, Executive Director; Mr. K.V.S. Vithal, CFO; and Mr. VSN Raju, Company Secretary. We will begin with the opening remarks from the management, which will be followed by Q&A. Over to you, sir.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#3

Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I'm pleased to share that the second quarter has been another strong period for Nava, marked by consistent operational performance and strategic progress across our businesses. In line with our commitment to shareholder value, I'm also pleased to note that Nava has declared a 300% interim dividend, which marks the highest ever interim dividend in its history. And this further reinforces our strong balance sheet and consistent track record of rewarding shareholders. We also continued to deliver steady dividend distributions from both Maamba Energy and Nava Global, reflecting our healthy cash generation and disciplined capital management. This remains one of our key strengths and a clear demonstration of our focus on delivering sustained returns to our shareholders. Our revenues grew steadily, driven by robust performance in the Metals segment and sustained momentum in our Energy business. One of the key milestones this quarter was the successful transition of our Orissa captive power plant into an independent power plant, a move that strengthens our growth trajectory in the energy sector. Our new projects, including the 100-megawatt solar power project under construction and the 300-megawatt expansion at Maamba are advancing well, laying a strong foundation for the next phase of growth. Above all, our long-term fundamentals are robust. We will remain agile, prudent and committed to rewarding your trust as we advance our business aspirations. I now open this call for your questions. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of AM Lodha from Sanmati Consultants.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#5

Am I audible, sir?

Unknown Executive

executive
#6

Yes, you're audible. Please go ahead.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#7

Sir, I got two questions. One is energy sale relating to outside India and energy sales inside India, number one. Number two, regarding employee cost. There are two questions which I'm asking you first. Sir, total energy sale is down from INR 1,045 crores to INR 876 crores in quarter 2. This is partially on account of shutdown in Zambia as well as lower price realization in the domestic front. Please can you clarify this?

Unknown Executive

executive
#8

Yes. So the energy sale, the drop is on two counts. One is there is a planned shutdown, semiannual shutdown in our Maamba. That is one reason. It is a one-off, and it was planned. And the second one is on account of lower demand in India on account of the prolonged monsoon and weather conditions.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#9

Sir, can you quantify the Zambia loss of revenue in the shutdown -- in amount, money -- in terms of money?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#10

We'll get back to you, Mr. Lodha.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#11

Okay, sir. Now regarding same energy question -- next question is regarding to energy. This is continuing the first question. 60-megawatt Odisha power plant commenced this IPP from 1st November '25. How much sale we can -- company can achieve on the sale of energy, the 60-megawatt power plant? It is thermal power plant, I think.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#12

Correct. It's a thermal power plant IPP. I think in terms of sales, in fact, recently, we have secured a long-term PPA for a period of 5 years for the Orissa IPP. Basically, it's for the state of Tamil Nadu. And the PPA commences from Feb of 2026 and is on until 5 years thereafter.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#13

Okay. How much revenue this power plant can generate 60 megawatts in terms of PPA?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#14

See, this PPA is for 50 megawatts out of the 60 into two IPP in Odisha. And we expect the operation to cover at about 50-plus megawatts on an annualized basis.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#15

What is the rate...

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#16

The rate is...

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#17

What is the rate at which we are selling the power, IPP [indiscernible] the power to the government.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#18

No. As per the long-term PPA, which I had mentioned, the delivered rate is INR 5.95.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#19

Okay. Now second question is, sir, regarding employee cost. In this quarter, there is a sharp jump in employee cost in quarter 2, it is INR 111 crores -- INR 111.6 crores against INR 65.77 crores. Is there is one-off in this employee cost or company started recognizing the expenses of the employees in the Zambia MCL?

Unknown Executive

executive
#20

So it has two components. One is the salary increases and the revisions that have happened in second quarter that is effective 1st of April. That is one. And second is we also do the fair valuation of the RSUs, which is done every quarter. So these are significantly the two entities, two components of the salary cost.

Abhay Mal Lodha

analyst
#21

Sir, can we expect the similar expenses in the coming quarter?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#22

Mr. Lodha, I think you can come back in line. Let's see others answer.

Operator

operator
#23

The next question is from the line of [ C.K. Bharathi ] as a shareholder.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#24

Am I audible?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#25

Yes.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#26

So just what Mr. AM Lodha was asking, I would like to get the clarification about how this increase in selling wages has happened from INR 65 crores to INR 111 crores.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#27

Sorry, your voice is not very clear. Could you repeat that?

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#28

Yes. Just what Mr. AM Lodha was asking, previous speaker, regarding employees benefit expenses, which has gone up from INR 65 crores to INR 111 crores. Please continue with your answers.

Unknown Executive

executive
#29

It was already explained in the previous...

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#30

No, no, it was not explained properly. It was not explained properly, I believe. You said there is two components. One is because of increment in the salary. Other is because of the revaluations or some fair value adjustment. Can you just quantify of -- both these? How much is towards increment and how much is towards fair -- reinstatement of fair valuations?

Unknown Executive

executive
#31

Yes, we will get back.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#32

So when I can expect the answer?

Unknown Executive

executive
#33

We will separately give it to you.

Unknown Executive

executive
#34

Maybe, Monday, we will -- yes.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#35

And another question is just I wanted to know your dividend policy of Nava Global. I understand from your presentation that you have received $72.8 million from Maamba towards dividend. And how much you have distributed from Nava Global to Nava India dividend so far out of the $72.8 million?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#36

So the dividend policy for Nava Global is adopted by the Board is 30% of PAT would be distributed as dividend. And as it stands right now, that's what we have followed. And therefore, Nava Global after receiving the dividend from MEL has declared $10 million to Nava.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#37

And can you just enlighten us what are the uses of cash with Nava Global, how we are going to deploy those?

Operator

operator
#38

Sorry to interrupt, [ C.K. Bharathi ]. Please rejoin the queue as -- to ensure that management -- yes, please. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Abhinav Nalawade from ICICI Securities.

Abhinav Nalawade

analyst
#39

I understand the MEL 2 plant is going as per the planned commissioning. I just wanted to know what is the CapEx that was done in Q2? And what is the CapEx that is pending for this plant?

Unknown Executive

executive
#40

Total outlay is $400 million for Phase 2. And out of that, currently $226 million has been spent.

Abhinav Nalawade

analyst
#41

Understood. My second question is on Avocado plantation. It is mentioned that the first fruit yield and income is projected in second half FY '26. What are the earnings that we can expect from this?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#42

Yes. So in terms of the Phase 2 coming on stream, it's going to be during the later part of next year.

Operator

operator
#43

The next question is from the line of [ Shikhar Tiwari, ] as an individual investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#44

Am I audible?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#45

Yes, you are audible.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#46

My question is regarding that the company is now having a significant amount of cash flow on its balance sheet. So going forward, what is the policy of this management to utilize the cash flow? Are we going to invest in more businesses in Zambia? Or are we going to look for opportunities throughout Africa or India and invest in those profitable opportunities? And the second question is if there is any policy regarding the dividend distribution from this cash flow going forward?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#47

Yes. So in terms of our growth plan, I don't think we are specific to any geography. As and where we see good opportunities, we evaluate the risk versus return, and if it makes sense for us, we will expand. Today, as it stands, if you look at our current projects that we have in the pipeline, we have a total equity commitment of approximately about $200 million, agri and in the energy sector. So -- but notwithstanding that, we have adopted a dividend policy at the Nava Global level that 30% of the PAT would be declared as dividend to its shareholders.

Operator

operator
#48

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ C.K. Bharathi ] as an individual shareholder.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#49

Yes, sir, the same question that what are the uses of Nava Global balance 70%, out of that 70%, 30% you are going to distribute as dividend. And what are the uses of that fund? You told that $200 million will be required for the expansion and balance what -- how they are going to use those funds?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#50

No, I've explained this before, sir. I've very clearly stated that as funds come into -- I'm talking about the Nava Global level, 30% of them will be declared as a dividend based on the dividend policy. And the remainder will be used for expansions and growth capital. And today, as we stand, we have approximately about $200 million of equity commitments. And apart from this, we're always looking at new opportunities too. So that's the utilization of the funds.

Operator

operator
#51

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ Prabhakar from RTP Securities. ]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#52

Sir, I have two questions. One is what is the status of the mining exploration? And second thing, last time you said that you have been appointed a consultant with regard to the Nacharam land, how it can be utilized? And what is the outcome of that report and what we are going to plan with that land? And another thing, is there any proposal of giving the bonus out of the existing reserves to the shareholders?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#53

Okay. I think -- sorry, in terms of your first question, with regards to exploration, which exploration are you talking about? There's lithium and there's also the manganese exploration in Ivory Coast?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#54

Yes. This government has been allotted the rest of land for us for the exploration of mining. This, I think, other than [ the Maamba, ] Zambia.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#55

I think in both geographies in Zambia as well as Cote d’Ivoire, the exploration works are underway -- are still underway. And I think once we have some concrete information out of that, we'll report it.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#56

It will take how much time can I expect, sir? How much time...

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#57

I can't put a number on it, but we expect to have some news by the end of next year.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#58

End of...

Unknown Executive

executive
#59

No. I think, sir, one thing we need to understand is exploration activities are -- they could take a small amount of time or a very long amount of time. Unfortunately, we can't put our finger and say there are minerals in a certain area and so on. So I don't think we can give you a time line in terms of when we can show you results because these are very large pieces of land that we are exploring. There's a very long drawn process. But as soon as we strike something positive that needs to be reported, we will definitely let the shareholders know in the first instance.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#60

Okay. What about this Nacharam out for you?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#61

Yes. So Nacharam, we're still exploring better -- good options. I mean as you probably know, the Hyderabad real estate values, especially in that region are climbing and they're increasing. So we do see some interest. And so we're basically still evaluating options. Nothing concrete...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#62

Is there any proposal of giving a bonus to the shareholders out of the existing reserves...

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#63

Sir, we just declared a dividend, our highest ever interim dividend. So I think we've been very, very generous in terms of declaring dividends and interim dividends on a yearly basis. Every time we receive funds from MEL through dividends, a portion of that is always distributed back here to the shareholders.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#64

There's no proposal of -- only by way of distribution or dividend only? Concern that there is no proposal to issue the bonus or shares et cetera?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#65

Currently, there's no proposal. Right now, we've just declared a dividend.

Operator

operator
#66

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ Shikhar Tiwari, ] as an individual investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#67

I just would like to understand how does the management see the company 5 years from now onwards? Will it be a diversified business, which will invest in profitable enterprises? Or do we see ourselves as an energy company or a mining company? What is the vision of the Board?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#68

So I think as a company, we have extremely strong roots in certain verticals, be in the energy sector, the metal sector, the mining sector and the agri sector, we definitely want to leverage on those expertise to expand the business. Today, already, we have a very good pipeline of future projects that are going to add to the revenues and bottom line in the next coming years. In addition to that, we are constantly exploring new opportunities in similar verticals, both as greenfield and M&A activity, so -- which will definitely add to the pipeline of projects that we want to undertake. One thing to note is given our assessment of projects that we get into, where we evaluate the risk versus reward, we're in a very good situation where we have very, very limited debt. So whenever a good opportunity arises, we can jump on that immediately.

Operator

operator
#69

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ Wanjin from Nava Limited. ]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#70

Yes. So I'm able to see that your EBITDA margin has been dropped from 48% to 34%. So I wanted to know like going forward, will we be able to recover the 48% margin or 34% will be the new normal? And moreover, that 100-megawatt solar project that we have signed, I wonder what is the rate at which we have signed and what is the revenue that we'll be getting 2 years down the line from that project?

Unknown Executive

executive
#71

On the EBITDA part, it is mainly due to -- one is the ForEx has been impacting us. You are referring to Y-o-Y Q2 of last year, 48% to 34%. So the ForEx has impacted adversely in this particular quarter, which definitely we feel it will reverse. And also the second is in terms of the demand condition here in this particular quarter has also impacted. So definitely, these one-offs are there in this quarter, and somehow we should be able to bounce back to a level which is much higher than the current quarter.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#72

And can you give the light on the 100-megawatt solar project?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#73

Yes. So the solar project, the tariff at the power purchase agreement that we've signed with the UPC is at $0.078 per kilowatt hour.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#74

And what is the revenue that we'll be looking 2 years down the line and margins, if you can give light on that as well?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#75

I mean I think in terms of revenue, we'll talk -- we don't want to start talking about margins and all on this call. So in terms of the revenue, we'll give you the information at a later period.

Operator

operator
#76

The next question is from the line of Radha from B&K Securities.

Radha Agarwalla

analyst
#77

Sir, what I wanted to understand is from next quarter, we'll start seeing the avocado revenue coming in. So with respect to that, you have four phases of plantation. So in the second half of FY '26, is it fair to assume that only Phase A, which is 1 lakh trees will contribute this year in terms of revenue? However, on the expense side, initially, the employee and other expenses might look higher?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#78

So in terms of the avocado, we did have a very small but initial first crop production this year itself. Next year -- end of next year will be slightly larger, which will slowly scale up. And I think we're looking at probably full production at FY '28. So it will slowly increase kind of in a phased manner like in all agriculture.

Radha Agarwalla

analyst
#79

So the 1 lakh trees of the crop yield will not be sold in second half. That is not the right assumption, but it would be lower since it's the initial phases currently?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#80

No, it will be done in phases. When you plant 100,000 trees, they don't all fruit at the same time. So -- this is agriculture, but -- so it will take a little while. But if you're looking at full production and in terms of full revenue, you're looking at '28 basically.

Radha Agarwalla

analyst
#81

Okay, sir. And sir, is this going to be B2B sales? Have you identified those customers already? And what kind of margin potential that this business has? Is it fair to assume that this business can do 60% plus EBITDA margins at optimal utilization?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#82

No. See, I'm not going to talk about margins and so on, on this call. But in terms of the sale, we currently are evaluating -- we have distributors that essentially take your entire crop and then they deal with the marketing and the sales. So that's one option we're looking at. But we're also open to kind of looking at the combination where we do have some direct sales and we have distributors. But that's something we will -- we are currently evaluating, and we will decide before the end of next year when we have a larger production.

Radha Agarwalla

analyst
#83

Will the employee and other expenses go up in next quarter as well?

Unknown Executive

executive
#84

So there were some one-offs, as I mentioned, in terms of valuation and all that. We don't expect the employee cost to go up beyond this level.

Operator

operator
#85

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [indiscernible] Consultants.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#86

So I was dropped and -- actually, I was on the line, but Iine was -- now reconnected now. Sir, just I wanted to know this USD 55 million payment from the ZESCO is still outstanding. When do you expect to get this due, sir?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#87

We should expect -- I mean hopefully, I'm not going to commit on anything, but we hope to receive it before the end of this financial year.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#88

Before the end of this financial year, I mean, by March '26.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#89

Yes.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#90

Another -- second question, sir, this bank borrowing has gone up from INR 823 crores to INR 1,559 crores in the consolidated balance sheet. And whereas we have got cash and cash equivalent at bank to INR 1,800 crores. So this INR 1,800 crores -- still we have borrowed the money, could we utilize this INR 1,800 crores in the project sir?

Unknown Executive

executive
#91

Yes. So the borrowings are mainly towards the Maamba Phase 2. So we are borrowing in a phased manner in line with the development of the project. A big part of that is still in our cash and cash balance, which will be used subsequently to fund that project. That is one reason. The other is, as we mentioned, we are realizing the arrears from ZESCO, which is also contributing to the increase in cash balance quarter-on-quarter.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#92

Another question, sir, second, the investment have gone up from INR 597 crores to INR 726 crores in the quarter in the sense of -- this investment is related to mutual funds, bonds or it is intercompany investment?

Unknown Executive

executive
#93

No, it is investment in current investments, which is effectively bonds and other investments, which are -- maturity of more than 1 year, which are classified as investments. These are not investments in any other company.

Operator

operator
#94

The next question is from the line of Shree Gopal Kankani from SG Kankani & Associates.

Shree Gopal Kankani

analyst
#95

I just wanted to know the status of implementation of 300-megawatt power expansion in Zambia. It is as per schedule?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#96

Yes, it is. The progress is going well. We expect to have it -- have both the units commissioned by the later part of next year.

Shree Gopal Kankani

analyst
#97

Later part. I think earlier it was planned in August '26.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#98

Yes, that is -- that's as per the schedule. So I mean, I don't want to commit on an exact date or a month right now because we -- this is a very, very aggressive time schedule that we've agreed. Generally, these plants take about 3 to 4 years to build. We are trying to do it in 2 years. So we are doing our best. Things are going fine, and we're still looking at the later part of next year.

Shree Gopal Kankani

analyst
#99

Okay, sir. Second thing, in the last con call, you had said that there is a planned maintenance shutdown of Zambia plant for 2 months, whether that shutdown has been taken place in this quarter or it is going to come in next quarter?

Unknown Executive

executive
#100

It has already happened in this particular quarter.

Shree Gopal Kankani

analyst
#101

In this quarter. So from October onwards, there is no such maintenance shutdown in Zambia plant.

Unknown Executive

executive
#102

No, not for this year.

Operator

operator
#103

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Bhagwandas Gandhi from CMS.

Bhagwandas Gandhi

analyst
#104

Just I want to know that anything project you are taking land, acquiring land from government in Andhra Pradesh for any project?

Unknown Executive

executive
#105

No, we currently have no plans.

Operator

operator
#106

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [indiscernible] Consultant.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#107

Sir, last question. Any plan for monetization of this Hyderabad land, sir?

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#108

No, we just explained it, Mr. Lodha. We -- basically, we are looking at opportunities. The price is going up in that region, and we are considering various opportunities. But when there's anything material, we'll let the wider group know.

Operator

operator
#109

[Operator Instructions].

Unknown Executive

executive
#110

Last two questions, please.

Operator

operator
#111

As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to management for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Ashwin Devineni

executive
#112

Thank you. I trust we've answered all your queries. If there are any further queries, please feel free to reach out to our investor team. I know there have been one or two questions that we need to respond, which we will do on Monday. And we'd like to thank our shareholders and partners for their continued confidence as we stay focused on building a stronger, sustainable Nava. Thank you, everyone.

Operator

operator
#113

On behalf of ICICI Securities Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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