Neurizon Therapeutics Limited (NUZ) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 8, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Unknown Attendee
attendeeWe are recording this important conversation today as Neurizon enters an important phase of its development. Enrollment platform trial. Top line results are expected in Q2 2027 and Dr. Chris Bremer has joined the company as Chief Executive Officer. Welcome, Chris.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveThank you.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeToday, we'll get to know Chris and discuss the broader Horizon story. We'll look at the science, the clinical program. We'll look at manufacturing and regulatory bounties global partnerships, leadership capability and strategic opportunities that have been built around NUZ-001.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo Chris, I might turn to you first. For people meeting you for the first time, what shaped your career in biotechnology, and what attracted you to Neurizon at this particular point in its development?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveI don't want to bore you with too much detail, but I think what a good summary of my career is it was always the part of translation of science to commercial. And a big part of that career was more on the commercial side, but they always wanted a leader who understands the science well. And then in the second part, they really positioned me in that gap of science and commercial where you need to get late-stage clinical trials right to translate it into the best value for patients and also for shareholders. And to be honest, many times, it's the same thing because we need to reach as many patients as possible and that then automatically translates to value. And to be honest, I've always very much enjoyed that part. I'm a physician, I like the science, but I like having an impact. And especially at Neurizon, you asked about my motivation. To be able to have a positive impact for these patients or people living with ALS is very rewarding. And even though there's still a few milestones ahead, I think that potential is a strong motivation for me.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSounds like the passion is there. I might turn to Serg. From a Board perspective Serg, what were you looking for in a new CEO?
Sergio Duchini
executive[indiscernible] Well, most mature boards have in place a succession plan. So we're always looking ahead strategically. That includes the role of the CEO. It includes the capability that exists on the Board and the capability of the team because in Life Sciences and Biotech, your skills that you need, the things that you focus on evolve. So the Board did have quite a robust succession plan in terms of what we think we need in the future. So when the former CEO resigned early in March of 2026, we executed that plan. And what we were looking for very much actually some -- I could summarize going back to what Chris discussed about his own experience, his passion, his focus. We're looking at a CEO that had a couple of really core attributes. Number one, they could connect and lead our team. It's an incredibly good team, very passionate, very tight net understands what needs to be done and has a history of really good execution. So we wanted a CEO who would come in and understand the value of that team and enhance it. Two, we are looking for an individual that had that was a clinician that would always help connect with the patient centricity of what we're trying to do with our therapeutic experience in generating value from a clinical asset, either in a number of transactional sense. So someone who has a track record of understanding the science, being able to translate the science into value through multiple ways, not being tied to a particular process. And the other was a person that had international experience. So our therapeutic is likely to be commercialized, it should be successful in the U.S. first, but it has a global marketplace. So someone who has worked in multiple markets who understands the nuance of various markets connected to capital markets, connected to partners, that's what we're looking for. And I have to say it was a really tough choice, Chris, although an easy one in the end, I should say. We did interview many. The process ended for about four months. And I know some were saying, why are you spending so much time, but we thought it was critical that we got it right, and we believe we have got it right.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeDan, as a key member of the team, what were you looking for in a leader?
Dan OConnell
executiveI might start actually by giving Serg a bit of a compliment and when he stepped into the he did a terrific job of establishing a great leadership team, empowering and giving clarity so we could focus on getting our jobs done and deliver. And I think over the period, it was leading us, we certainly delivered on a number of issues. So first of all, thank you to Serg and the acknowledgment of the great work he did. But as a starting point, I think the leadership team was looking for someone like Serg would empower -- would allow us to support and deliver and do our jobs would also be additive in their own right, fill some of the gaps that we had, particularly as we look forward beyond the HEALEY trial into the potential to commercialize that was a real gap for us. So look, I think we were looking for someone who would allow us to keep working the way we've been working, would be additive, but perhaps more importantly, could communicate well with the team, lead the team with some clear priorities, great judgment, good experience. And I think we kind of got everything that we were looking for in Chris added to which I think I personally was looking for someone I'd be happy to have a beer with and hang around with and have a bit of fun with. I think we've got that in Chris as well.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeExcellent. So we might take ...
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveCan I jump in there? Just because -- I'm not just saying it just to say, I really feel it. Asked me about why I joined the team, why I joined Neurizon, from the beginning, this struck me as something very special, the team. I mean they're all very accomplished individuals, specialists in their field, but it was really them interesting as a team. And actually, one of the first interactions was with Dan and Martin, how they give each of the credit, they listen to each other that was very special. And from the beginning, I had this feeling that I would connect well with this team. And actually, I'm very proud to be a future part of that team.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeExcellent.
Sergio Duchini
executiveThanks, Chris.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeAnd we're looking forward to getting your insights as well. So we might start with you. The [indiscernible] HEALEY readout naturally attracts attention. When you look at Neurizon as a whole, what gives the company value beyond the proximity of that single milestone?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveThere are many elements we could talk about, and I want to talk later about all the elements which are in place, which are for me, impressive for a company of the size of Neurizon. But looking a little bit further into the future, you also have to see there are line extensions lining up. There are new indications on the horizon. So I don't see this purely as a one drug company. There is more potential mid- and longer term. And I come from precision medicine where you look for -- to understand the disease and then you can properly position the product in that space, and that's where I see a lot of potential here.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSerg, if I can turn to you, which achievements most clearly show that Neurizon has moved from development preparation into global clinical execution?
Sergio Duchini
executiveI think there were a number, but I'll highlight the trial on the HEALEY ALS platform, so Regimen I. Being able, firstly, to -- firstly, being selected for participation on the platform trial to be able to raise the necessary funds for us to participate fully in both active and the active treatment extension phase of the trial to be able to fully recruit 250 participants in the time frame that we did. I mean that's also a credit, obviously, to the HEALEY network. That's a pretty big achievement for, I think, a small Australian biotech. And in many ways, I feel that we really do punch above our weight. I don't want to be tried about that. I think that we have achieved and are achieving a lot with the capital that we've got in the country that were residing. So there's a lot in that and those who understand Australian biotech would appreciate those truths. The other is the relationship we have developed with Elanco and the importance of that relationship across three dimensions of our business really. The first one, obviously, is the access to the Global Licensing Agreement that we -- which gives us access to really important data, and we can talk about that later, but that was fundamental to us getting our initial IND approved by the FDA, that body of data that we could leverage efficiently. I think that was -- that's an important element. They are now, I think, our #3 or fourth shareholder. They're on our register. They're a large global company, market cap of around $12 billion on the -- in the U.S., so they have on our edge to say something. We've got a Board observer, Dr. Steve Nanchen, that says something as well sitting on our Board. But finally and critically, when you talk about maybe the next phase around of execution, is the work that was done by Dan and others working with Elanco to finalize the manufacturing and supply agreement. I think that agreement, which we can talk about later, is another enabling agreement, which will fast track our ability to execute, should we get the results we're seeking from the trial in terms of the ability to scale up access to the active pharmaceutical ingredient API and then to generate the tablets that we need. So yes, look, they, I think, are the main ones that I would draw to in terms to say, "Hey, look, we're no longer an interesting scientific experiment. We're now a clinical development company, and we're actually now moving towards clinical execution of that asset.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeChris, I might turn back to you again. ALS is one diagnosis. It can progress very differently from one person to another. What does heterogeneity mean in ALS? And why does it make drug development challenging?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveThat's a very good question. Heterogeneity means that although the symptoms we see the decline really in motor function in these people living with ALS as a symptom looks the same, the underlying mechanisms can be very different. And you see different sites of unset you see different speeds of progression. And to me, coming again from precision medicine, that means the underlying mechanisms are probably not all identical, meaning they're heterogeneous. And this is what we have to understand. And for instance, biomarkers are one tool to understand that better. When biomarkers align with clinical outcomes, they are a very, very powerful tool, for instance, in discussions with regulators, the FDA, but they also help you to plan future trials much better selecting patients based on some characteristics. So Overall, I would say the success probability increases the better you understand these heterogeneous diseases.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeStaying with you, Chris. NUZ-001 is designed to target impaired cellular [indiscernible] clearance pathways associated with neurodegenerative diseases. In plain language, what is the biological thesis? And how has that evidence base developed?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveOne central pathological mechanism in ALS is buildup of proteins, aggregates. They -- from clusters in the cell, think of it as a garbage accumulating. And with that, the cell becomes dysfunctional, needs more energy and ultimately die. And that's what we see. So this buildup of proteins as a central mechanism seems to be influenced by NUZ-001. We see that in preclinical experiments. We see indications of that also in the clinic, meaning that we prevent the buildup of these clusters, aggregates, the garbage in the cell. And with that, hope to also slow the disease.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeGreat. Serg, a positive clinical result creates lasting value if the company can move efficiently into the next stage. What has Neurizon already done on formulation, [indiscernible] and manufacturing readiness?
Sergio Duchini
executiveOkay. Look, there was a lot I can talk about there. I might actually also renewing Dan in relation to this. But firstly, and we're fortunate that the work that we've done to date with Elanco and our tableting supplier, Catalent has resulted in the therapeutic dose that we're using in the trial of NUZ-001 being in a very small tablet, 10 milligrams, and the dosing is 10 milligrams per kilogram in the trial. So that -- the size of the tablet is already such that it is readily digestible by patients with ALS. In addition, you can crush the tablet and so the tablet is crushable and can be mixed with food or other liquids, which actually also aids ingestion by person with ALS. The active pharmaceutical ingredient, the API, that is developed manufactured for us by Elanco has now moved to two human grade GMP grade, and that was the work that was done a lot with Steve Nanchen and that you're acutely across as well, Dan. So -- and that can be done at scale. And whilst that process isn't fully completed in terms of some of the validation batches, it's very well advanced. So in terms of being able to manufacture the API and then the [indiscernible] at scale, having a partner like or a relationship with Elanco, I should say, I think, really does actually fast track the commercialization. But Dan, I don't know if you just want to add something to that relationship.
Dan OConnell
executiveLook, I think one of the reasons I've really enjoyed being at Neurizon is the fact that the Board and management have had this real strategic focus on what happens next, so you don't become the dog that catches the car and then kind of sit there and not know what to do with it, if you like. Yes. We've very much been thinking about how do we ready ourselves for a good top line readout. And then as a finance person, one of the things that I'd flag is that we've done it in an incredibly capital-efficient way, particularly through the support of the Elanco relationship. I mean if you look at the amount of work we would have had to do to generate the safety data that we're able to access through Elanco through our license agreement, which gives us an exclusive license to commercialize. But through that, we were able to use all their safety data, which cost tens of millions of dollars will cost us but basically nothing unless we're successful. Similarly with the supply agreement, their IP protected manufacturing process that can deliver high-quality ad volume active pharmaceutical ingredient monopental, not only that, but there are batches available ready for us to go, but we haven't had to bet the company on it. In the event they're not successful, they'll be absorbed back into the Elanco supply. So I think about the progress we've made and the readiness we've achieved through that relationship. And in fact, where we are for the amount of funding we've utilized. And I think you compare us to any other global in the same position than they would have spent, multiples of what we've spent.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo how should investors understand Horizon's regulatory position today? And what decisions would follow the top line readout, might throw to you again?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveYes. So we know the HEALEY platform trial is what we refer to as a Phase 2/3 potentially pivotal trial. And what that means is in the sequence, it's a Phase 2 trial, but it has all the characteristics of a Phase 3 trial. That means if it's positive, it can lead to a full regulatory approval in the U.S., and that's -- of course, the best case and best scenario. There are also other scenarios where that first approval is what they call an accelerated approval where the FDA expects to to still conduct a confirmatory trial afterwards. Plus there are then also other possibilities where you see signals in the trial or signals in subgroups which would allow you with additional trials, of course, achieve regulatory approval further down the road.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo I'll throw this question out to the table, Neurizon has built relationships across clinical research, government-funded access, manufacturing, scientific advice and the patient community. How does that network improve the company's ability to succeed?
Sergio Duchini
executiveI might kick it off. Well, the network that we have developed, the relationships which we've developed, which will explain in a minute. -- fundamental to our ability to commercialize and engage with at least our initial primary market in the U.S. So firstly, the relationship we have with Mass General Brigham Hospital, where the HEALEY ALS platform trial is run out of. It is their IND. They are running the trial, which is -- which I sort of like and we all like there's that degree of independence in terms of they're doing it. And to the protocol that's been approved by the FDA, they have an established network of that we're using 78 clinical sites in the U.S. to actually -- which actually enabled us to recruit very quickly. So that network of key opinion leaders, that network of neurologists, that network of specialists is fundamental to us being able to execute the actual trial. We've also got connections with patient groups and patient associations, they are also pivotal not only in spreading the awareness around the trial and the potential therapy but also in certain instances, they can actually help advocate for approval with the FDA. They have a strong voice. So that's -- there's some of the relationships, which I think are pivotal our ecosystem. Did you want to talk about the recent National Institute of Health approval for the extended access program? That's a...
Dan OConnell
executiveReally importantly, not only are we in this imminent well-regarded trial through HEALEY, which gives us that engagement and awareness. But we've also just been approved or funded or a 200-patient expanded access protocol, which program, which allows us allows people suffering from ALS, who don't otherwise qualify for HEALEY to still have the benefit of this investigational therapy. So it will create great engagement with the ALS patient community and will also broaden the awareness of subscribers in the U.S. So these are all really important parts of us establishing ourselves again post readout.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeChris, did you have anything to add to that?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveI'm very much looking forward to engage with patient organizations. I think they are extremely important. I want to understand what people with living with ALS, what their perspective is, what's important for them. So we can consider their view, but there -- they can also help us influence decisions. So I think that piece is important. And the rest, I would just repeat, I think I'm amazed at the strong partnerships we have built, that is with the HEALEY Consortium Harvard associated group. They built this trial, and they've selected Neurizon and NUZ-001 to be part of their regimens. So that's a strong endorsement. We have Elanco as a very reliable partner, and it helps us in a capital efficient way to scale up to GMP standard material. We have the NIH support for the EIP. So these are all very strong elements, and I'm impressed how the management so far has built these strong relationships which help us to progress.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeDan, I have a finance question. How has Neurizon aligned its financial strategy with the clinical, regulatory and manufacturing work needed around the readout?
Dan OConnell
executiveOne of the great things about working in Neurizon is a very engaged and supportive Board who understand the challenges and opportunities and how to make sure we both position ourselves well for the readout, but maintain flexibility and watch the market and always have an eye to what's in the best interest of our shareholders. So Yes, simple terms, we're funded through to top line readout. So great support from our shareholders, great support from our convertible note financier. And also critically with the recipient of nondilutive funding through the Australian R&D tax incentive, a really important part of our funding and critical both our development and the development of biotech companies in Australia, I think it's terrific. And so yes, I would say we're fully funded. We are well positioned to get the readout and then look forward into what the options are thereafter. And as we flagged, got a lot of the commercialization work ready to go, which gives us a lot of optionality around where to. So for some biotechs, they get to a readout and they need to partner up to be able to progress because they don't have manufacturing sorted. They don't have distribution sorted, as an alternative as we discussed, we're well positioned with Elanco around. The manufacturing of our API and tableting and perhaps more importantly, as we discussed around the AIP and HEALEY, will be great understanding in the prescribing community of our of our drug and how it's performed in various trials. So I think we're uniquely well positioned to have a lot of options in front of us, whether to partner or not might be one of those.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo if NUZ-001 produces supportive clinical evidence what strategic parts could become available to Neurizon, might throw to you Chris for that one.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveOf course, there's the regulatory side, and I think we've touched on that before, for the U.S., but then we would also think obviously about other international geographies where we would obviously intend to register the product. But maybe I'll highlight the more commercial partnering sides. So of course, that is something we already looking at and would look at more closely to get a partner on board who has the same vision and can help us to run some of the future trials, which would be necessary in other geographies. And we would very obviously look also at opportunities to commercialize ourselves in some geographies, that's clearly an option. The U.S. is the obvious one. While I think it's clear that in some other geographies, Latin America, some smaller countries, we would very much look for a partner. And that's the work we need to be doing that. The second piece, I think, is then thinking about the signs, if results are positive, then we can think about additional indications. We mentioned [indiscernible], for instance, we can think about line extensions, combination products. So there are so many things in my mind that you can do. But obviously, that first critical milestone, yes, is the first critical element to advance all of these activities.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo Serg, what must Neurizon execute between now and top line results to be ready for several possible outcomes?
Sergio Duchini
executiveWell, the first step was obviously bringing Chris on board. We're all very excited about that. Clearly, we need to complete the clinical trial. So that path is underway, and that will play out. We'll get the data towards the end of Q2 2027, depending on what that data is, we have a number of strategic options. So the Board will be very much focused on understanding what the best strategic alternatives and options exist for our organization under various scenarios. -- that will be generated by working very closely with now an increasingly skilled management team. So I think the Board will be really focusing on strategic preparedness, and that is a very close relationship with the executive team. So I think we've got to get that right, understand what options we have. So as we know what we need to do when we start to get the data, and it starts to read out. Look, before then, there's a lot of work that continues. All the -- our partnering program continues. I mean, Dr. Martin Inglis not here today, he is an incredibly important part of our executive leadership team. He's been doing a lot of work together with Dan in the past and then in the future with yourself Chris, around engaging with our partners. There are many partners that are very interested in where we're at and what's to come. We need to continue those relationships. And in parallel, understand what it means for us to take this alone, should that be a strategic course that we decided to do. And the third and there's other alternatives clearly [indiscernible] plethora could be what would an M&A deal look like if that's possible as well. And being prepared for all those contingencies.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeChris, did you have anything to add to that?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveNot much to add. I'm thinking about the partner perspective, and they will look at the same elements. They want to see a company that's prepared, that has all the elements in place. We mentioned the GMP supply, all the scientific support, preclinical experience, IP. And I see a company which has all that now, and we need to strengthen that to the extent possible. If we do that, then there is no magic to it and just continuous execution, which the team has shown to do very well yes.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo to close off, I'll get a view from each one of you. Do you think is the single most important thing you want shareholders and the ALS community to understand about Neurizon today?
Sergio Duchini
executiveI think the company that we are today, we have transformed over the last 12 months. I think we've transformed in terms of our clinical preparedness, which is evidenced by HEALEY, but also transformed culturally. I think we've transformed from a management capability perspective. So I think there are -- I think we're very well placed, and we know what needs to be done between now and read-out and beyond. We have transformed significantly over the last 12 months. We are well placed to execute on what needs to be executed both in terms of talent, funding, awareness and capability. So I think we're well placed, very well placed.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeDan?
Dan OConnell
executiveWhen it comes to business, I think there's an element of just determination and resilience that is critical. You just got to be the person that's so determined and resilient that they keep getting up and driving on and I've very much seen that in the whole Neurizon team. And clearly, in an ex Olympic swimming Captain, you've got someone who's pretty determined. So yes, I reckoning determination are critical, and we've got plenty of that.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo we might give the final word to the new CEO then.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveYes. Well, it's funny because you asked about the one thing. I what I see is, if you look at the big picture, I see a late clinical stage company. I mean, we're way from 9 months away from a critical readout potentially 18 months away from an NDA submission in the U.S. and that doesn't correspond to the market perception of this company. That's what I see I'm amazed why nobody is seeing it, how the company has evolved over the past 12 months to, I mean, give a few examples, recruiting the HEALEY trial. And of course, it's not only the company, it's also HEALEY as a consortium. But to recruit a rare disease trial in 5 months is exceptional. And I try to search for other examples, they don't exist in rare diseases, it's very exceptional. And also to have a company in this stage to have GMP supply secured, that's a luxury. Where I come from, management spends a lot of time a lot of time, a lot of resource and a lot of money to get that in place. And I see it's all there. And maybe markets need to recognize what has been achieved over the past 9 to 12 months.
Sergio Duchini
executiveYes. Well said. I agree.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo quite a track record to follow.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveAbsolutely. The bar is very high.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeWell, thank you, Chris, Serg and Dan. Today's discussion shows that Horizon's program extends beyond the approaching clinical milestone that the company has completed the enrollment as we've talked about in a rigorous late-stage ALS program and help the scientific regulatory manufacturing financial and organizational foundations needed to interpret the results and determine the right path forward. So top line results remain to be seen and expected in late Q2 2027. And until then, the focus is disciplined execution and readiness for the opportunities that may follow.
Sergio Duchini
executiveAbsolutely. And the countdown is on. Absolutely, yes. Continued disciplined execution, absolutely.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThank you.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveThank you.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeHello. Good afternoon to everybody. We are now in the live part of this session. Thank you very much for joining, taking the time to join us today. I have with me today our Chairman, Sergio Duchini and our Chief Financial Officer, Dan O’Connell.
Sergio Duchini
executiveGood afternoon, everyone.
Dan OConnell
executiveGood day everyone.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveYes. Thanks again. We have some presubmitted questions and provided we have time, we can also answer live questions. And yes, maybe taking 30 more seconds to tell you again that I'm very excited to be here today. It's obviously my first week still, but it's super exciting. And with that, I would ask Dan to help us guide us through the first questions.
Dan OConnell
executiveYes. Thank you, Chris, and good day, everyone. Really pleased to be here and it's going to be straight back to you, Chris, with the first question, unsurprisingly, but off we go. Question is, what is the timing for a revised fast track submission to the FDA?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveSo the very simple answer is there is no definitive timing. We'll submit when we think the data is there and the chances of success are the highest. The time line will not impact, so we can do it now, we can do it in 3 months or we can do it in 9 months. And we'll make sure that the data package, which we submit with the fast track is as complete as possible and has the highest chances of success. That's the answer.
Dan OConnell
executiveThanks, Chris. The next question is really one around our funding position in a couple of parts. The first one is around the city and facility and the dilution pressure potentially puts order base questions around the runway and then what financing considerations or positions are in place for post readout. So I might break that up into -- I might take that question myself as a starting point. And you probably break it up into the two parts. So look, as most of our shareholders would be aware, we have a multiple funding strategy, including our existing cash balances, the nondilutive benefit of the R&D tax incentive for Australian and foreign spend. The ability, of course, to accelerate the collection of that through the strategic facility, we've executed with [indiscernible] and then also the Obsidian convertible note facility. Things I'll say about the funding now is a starting point, the Board and management are always very focused on making sure we're observing the market and making sure that our current funding strategy and funding position remains suitable and appropriate and robust. We're very active in that regard. And part of that is always looking to reduce costs, so we need less capital, but also looking at alternative forms of funding, in relation to the Obsidian facility, you can see action there in that regard in that we were able to manage our costs tightly, see some of the FX benefit available through locking in those rates and use that capacity within our funding structure to buy back -- really well was over 1/4 of the notes that Obsidian have held in more than half of what was left as part of that, that was stood out of the market for for 2 months. We've seen some great share price response and share price support coming off the back of that. And so we'll continue to monitor the best forms of funding for the business, but it's important we are fully funded. And as part of our funding strategy, we always make sure that we monitor and make sure we'll have a robust position coming into the top line readout because that's where you get that optionality. Looking forward into what happens next, obviously, too early to say much other than the company will be diligent, focused and really looking at shareholder value in all the decisions it made there as we have in entry into HEALEY, full funding of that and where we are today. So yes, in a nutshell, that's the funding position. Serg, this one is a question for you, showing that you can never really leave Neurizon once you've joined the executive team. So yes, looking for an exploration on how the NIH-funded expanded access program came together, including roles of HEALEY and Neurizon, how NUZ-001 was selected and what the NIH funding represents.
Sergio Duchini
executiveLook, thanks, Dan, and thanks for the question. It's a great question because the extended access program, which is awarded by the National Institute of Health NIH in the U.S. is something that we should be proud about. It's a great achievement. Firstly, the work that was done with HEALEY collaboratively, the key executives at [indiscernible], I want to call out John Clark, who's our Chief Operating Officer. He was -- he sort of led and coordinated our response work with Dr. Sabrina Pagani at HEALEY, ably supported by a number of our executives. I want to call that also Dr. Martin, who gave a lot of work did a lot of work, I should say, in terms of presenting our preclinical and early clinical data. But the process is one where it's a competitive process. It's a peer-reviewed process. The decision is ultimately made on the strength of our joint -- I'll say our application, which was -- it's under our IND. And the way it works at HEALEY then runs the process able to be supported by Neurizon in terms of making sure that we've got the right amount of drug available to support the -- the participants on the expanded X program. But simply put, it actually is a positive for the patient community. It opens up the availability of up to 200 other participants for whatever reason. -- were not selected could not participate in a double-blinded randomized placebo-controlled trial. So everybody will be on us NUZ-001, the 200 participants. And I think that's a real positive for the community. It does sort of broaden the treatment experience for -- I just need to wave my arms team. I'm in a room with -- you're going to have to see me slightly in the dark [indiscernible], I promise I'll get up and move around. I'm unfortunately the lights here on timer and I'm in a darkened area. But as I said, it does give us some real-world data some longer-term safety and real-world evidence. So it's -- I think it's a real positive. In addition, the funding that's been awarded by the NIH does fund all our direct costs associated with the expanded access program, which will commence first quarter 2027. And also, there is a contribution to our overheads, which will be important for us as well. So it's a very positive story for the community and also for Neurizon.
Dan OConnell
executiveYes, it's a great achievement and fiat answer. Chris, back to you. A weekend question is in your candid opinion. And being German is probably the only opinion you can give is a candid one. What are the areas of the business you think are being executed well. And what are the areas you think in most need of attention or improvement?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveYes. Thank you. Yes, I like the question because it's really the process I went through in the due diligence, my own diligence before joining Neurizon. And I have to say I was very, very impressed with the execution so far. And just to give examples, you look at the trial execution. Of course, that's together with our partner, HEALEY, but to recruit this trial in under 5 months, that's very impressive. The fact that we increased from 160 patients to potentially 240 and now in the end, 250, that's an achievement. It's not trivial. You have to organize drug supply. So very well executed. I would like to call out the supply agreement, again, not a trivial thing. Many companies in this stage would be envious to have drug supply, also commercial drug supply should this product be approved already organized. Yes. So in summary, very, very impressive and also in a very capital-efficient way. We're a very lean company, I would say, on the very, very lean side from what I've known as benchmarks. Yes, and that's my very honest opinion. Of course, there are things to do, but nothing we missed. This is exactly the phase where we need to think about commercial options, where we need to think about engaging clinicians, patient organizations, and that has happened already to a degree, but that's now the phase where you would intensify these activities. And that's exactly what I'm planning to do together with the team. And that's what I enjoy actually. So I'm looking forward to it.
Dan OConnell
executiveThanks, Chris. That's great. Not getting away anytime soon. Yes, as Neurizon approach the HEALEY readout, how are management and perhaps more importantly, you, thinking about realistic commercial pathways for NUZ-001, independent development, partnering, licensing, broader strategic transaction? Do you have a preferred route? How does the capital requirements of each play into your thinking is the broader rush straight to the question?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveYes.Well, I would say the priority is to keep all the optionality because that will allow us to select the best options when we come to that decision. So honestly, we'll evaluate all options. We'll probably advance the necessary activities for all those options. And then in the interest of shareholders make the best decision when it comes up, right? And part of that is just good execution until then because that's what partners want to see. I've been on the other side. If you talk to strategic partners, they want to see that everything is in place, the elements we just mentioned, supply is there, and that's what we'll focus on. So that partners, when they look at us, when they look at a data room and a due diligence, they see all the elements that they would expect, and that's what's going to drive then the highest interest and the best commercial outcomes for Neurizon.
Dan OConnell
executiveThank you, Chris. Straight back to you as well. Beyond autophagy, Neurizon has reported activity across the [indiscernible] pathways. What is the current understanding of how NUZ-001 may be working and where it might sit within those pathways?
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveInteresting question, first week on the job. Look, I don't want to go into too much detail. I'm not sure it's interesting for everybody. I think our understanding is that our drug works on the [indiscernible]. So that means it's not a pure autophagy enhancer. It doesn't influence just one system. What we see is in the balance, in the system, in the cell, it prevents the aggregation of these toxic aggregates, and that seems to be a very central mechanism of the disease, which is also placed very early in the cascade. You can imagine these toxic aggregates accumulating, Think of it as garbage. So the more they accumulate, the less functional a cell can be. And all the other mechanisms might stabilize the situation for a short time, but they cannot really change the trajectory of the disease. And that's why we believe we have a mechanism which is very relevant in this disease. And look, I don't even think -- or every nuance of the mechanism is understood yet. That's part of the understanding of ALS, which is still in early phases, but we understand that we influence a very important pathway early in the cascade. I will leave you with that.
Dan OConnell
executiveThank you, Chris. That's excellent. Serg. We're going to flip that quickly. There's a question in here.
Sergio Duchini
executiveIf the lights don't go out.
Dan OConnell
executiveYes. We'll move -- keep your arms moving around to keep the lights on Yes. So there's a question here around the executive share award scheme really the question is around divesting hurdles and whether they're tied to outperformance and I would say, things like higher clinical readouts things linked to shareholder value. or rather than operational duties or routine compliance matters. It's broadly the question. So over to you.
Sergio Duchini
executiveThank you for that question. So Clearly, the design of any executive remuneration structure has to have at its core a number of fundamental objective. So in the design of our executive remuneration structure, you look at base remuneration, you look at short-term incentives and then you look at long-term incentives. Now the Board actually engaged an external remuneration specialist to assist us in our design of this program. And it's not a static program as well because it needs to move as the organization evolves. So I think the question here is probably addressing not the short-term incentives, which are focused on the achievement of not operational but of key strategic milestones of a short-term nature. But our longer-term incentive, which is broken, I think to performance rights and into options, they are designed very much so around our performance and to ensure that if they do vest, and when they do best, hopefully, they are completely aligned with shareholder value. I can also say that as part of the process, working with an external remuneration consultant benchmark up to 20 other companies in our sector, which were reasonable analogs of Neurizon. And we chose the pathway we sort of put us around the 75th percentile in terms of the structure of the remuneration. And so we're always very cognizant to make sure that there is strong alignment to ensure that any vesting of the long-term incentive in particular, is totally aligned with shareholder value. There's also a retention element as well in any design of any remuneration system, good systems offering incentive for our key executives to stay and for our key executives to perform. So I'm very happy with what it's been designed. And again, it's been benchmarked against at least 20 other biotechs of similar stature, similar market, market value, and we've even had some -- it's actually quite a broad spectrum just to see that we sort of fit. So look, I've got no problem with it. It actually applies to all our executives in Australia and in the U.S. So it's a very robust and well thought through the program.
Dan OConnell
executiveNo, no. Thank you, Serg. That's great. I'm glad the light is still on. It's sort of a positive outcome as well.
Sergio Duchini
executiveI was pretty happy about that.
Dan OConnell
executiveNo. So thank you to everyone that presubmitted their questions. We're now going to transition into the online questions. And Chris, I'm going to -- May had a rest with Serg answering your question there. Yes, just -- the question here is broadly in relation to the FDA Type C meeting announcement that we put out this week. It indicated that the HEALEY trial may serve as a single registrational study for the NDA, if results are sufficiently strong and accompanied by adequate supporting evidence. It's your view of what would be a sufficiently strong ALS FRS improvement.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveYes, look, my answer to that one would be the regulators will always look for a statistically significant and clinically relevant benefit for patients and clinically relevant benefit. You asking clinicians there might be slightly different answers, but between 20%, 25%, 30% improvement over placebo is usually considered clinically relevant and that would -- that is what regulators would look for. Of course, also consistency ideally across different outcome parameters, the primary endpoint always being the most important ones. But of course, consistency across the secondary endpoints is also desirable.
Dan OConnell
executiveThank you, Chris. That's excellent. There's another ALS FRS question here. It is really going back in time back to the original men's study and -- there's a question in it about, I guess, your views on -- there was a -- the initial cohort, it was a dose escalation trial, so the initial cohort was on a lower dose. The subsequent cohort was on on a higher escalating dose, second cohort on the higher dose saw a bigger improvement in ALS FRS. So it was basically 6 and 6. The question is, in your opinion, I suppose, does a dose-dependent change with the probability of that NUZ-001 was responsible for the change versus brand business of the small sample size. If want to answer it ...
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveThis is -- but Okay. The correct answer is this is a lot of speculation in a trial, a small trial with 12 patients, you cannot talk about a definitive conclusion and the smaller the groups get even less. So we made a judgment from the trial, but also preclinical experiments that the dose we selected that's 10 milligrams per kg is the correct dose. But beyond that, and that was based on the totality of the data available, not only the clinical part. But Beyond that, I wouldn't read anything into even smaller subgroups of the Phase Ib trial.
Dan OConnell
executiveExcellent. Thank you, Chris. We've got a couple of questions on updates now. there's a question around preclinical test results and when we might get further updates on our progress on preclinical. Yes, maybe I'll I'm happy to grab that you'll have to contribute, if you wish. Look, what I'll say is we are ending work on our mechanism of action, as we've discussed, and we will share that with our shareholder base when we ready to do so at this stage, nothing's been received, but it is an important focus area of ours. Welcome to add anything. Otherwise, I can move to the next. And the next one really focused on, I guess, looking forward, as a lot of us will know, we're moving -- we started this trial with first patient first visit in February, which means this month, we'll have our first patient finish on the randomized clinical trial and move into the trial extension. So I think there's a question around whether we'll get updates on how many patients elect to continue treatment in transitioning in -- from the RCT into the ATE.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveDo we have visibility on that? That's the question. We don't. So clearly, as you mentioned, the first patients are coming towards the end of the 9-month double-blind phase and when they roll off, then we will not necessarily know, but HEALEY will now, who elects to continue but maybe that's a good time to highlight that because I sometimes get the question, what's the risk for time lines expanding again, which is coming in the industry. That's basically excluded because all the patients are already recruited. It's very predictable when the first patients will go off the double-blind phase when the last patients will go off and when the top line will come in and we've communicated that will be towards the end of the second quarter of next year.
Dan OConnell
executiveThank you, Chris. We're absolutely -- we're now out of questions to the best of my knowledge. I can't see any further questions sitting within the live questions. So I think that probably means it's trying to call it to an end. And if there's anything you want to share with our shareholders who have joined us today, please feel free to do so.
Chris-Carol Bremer
executiveThank you, Dan, and thanks to everybody for participating today. I hope we have many more of these opportunities to share data and news with you, but also answer the questions. So thank you very much for taking the time. Thank you very much for your support. It is important, and it's not only important for us, but very importantly for patients. So I still believe we can make a great impact here for patients. And you are part of that, everybody is making a contribution. Thank you very much for that and looking forward to more discussions and interactions. Thanks.
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