Nickel Industries Limited (NIC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 31, 2024

Australian Securities Exchange AU Materials Metals and Mining shareholder_meeting 37 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Norman Seckold

executive
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, shareholders of Nickel Industries, welcome to this Annual General Meeting of Nickel Industries. My name is Norman Seckold, and I'll be chairing today's meeting. It's gone 11 a.m. And a quorum is present, so I declare the meeting open. Today's meeting has been convened in accordance with the Corporations Act. The notice of this meeting has been sent to shareholders and is taken as read. All resolutions today will be decided by way of a poll, including valid proxies submitted before the meeting. Computershare has been appointed as scrutineers for each poll. The blue voting cards will be collected and the poll will be conducted after the business of the meeting has been completed. The formal results of the poll will be notified to the ASX after the meeting and will be posted on the company's website. As Chairman of the meeting, and I've been appointed as proxy for shareholders entitled to vote, as stated in the Notice of Meeting, I will be voting all directed proxies in accordance with the directions provided by shareholders. And we're authorized, I will vote all undirected proxies in favor of each resolution before the meeting today. I'd like to introduce your Board of Directors who are with us in the meeting today. Joining us either in person or via Zoom or webcast are my fellow directors, Managing Director, Justin Werner; CFO, Chris Shepherd; James Crombie; Dasa Sutantio; Muliady Sutio; Haijun Wang; Binghe Xiang; and Yuanyuan Xu as well; As company secretary, Richard Edwards, on my left; and Investor Relations, where is Cameron?

Richard Edwards

executive
#2

He's on the Zoom.

Norman Seckold

executive
#3

He's on the Zoom. Sorry. Also with us from the company's auditor, KPMG, are Adam Twemlow and Jessie Rutherford. When you registered your attendance this morning, you would have been issued with an attendance card. People with a blue card are shareholders entitled to speak and vote at the meeting. Your blue card will serve as your voting form and will be collected at the end of the meeting. People with a yellow card are shareholders entitled to speak but not vote at the meeting. People with a white card are visitors. I now propose to deal with the formal business of the meeting. There will be a pause for members to ask questions about the business of the meeting and later about the company's activities. If we can now move to the slide summarizing the proxies received. The first item of business is set out on the Notice of Meeting is to receive and consider the annual report and statutory financial statements for the year ended 31 December 2023. Are there any questions in relation to the financial statements or the report? If there's no further discussion on this, we can record that the annual report and statutory accounts have been received and adopted. Resolution 1 is the -- as set out on the Notice of Meeting is to consider a nonbinding extraordinary resolution, the adoption of the remuneration report as set out in the company's annual report. Are there any questions or comments in relation to this resolution? The proxies -- the proxy votes received on this resolution are currently displayed on the screen, and I declare the poll open for resolution 1. Please record your vote by placing a mark in the for, against or abstain box for resolution 1 on the blue card provided. Okay. Resolution 2 as set out on the Notice of Meeting. It's an ordinary resolution to consider and if thought fit to reelect Dasa Sutantio as a Director. Dasa is required by the corporation's law and the company's constitution to retire and offer himself for reelection. Are there any questions or comments in relation to this resolution? The proxy votes received on this resolution are currently displayed on the screen. And I declare the poll open for resolution 2. Please record your vote by placing a mark in the for, against or abstain box for resolution 2 on the blue card provided. Resolution 3 as set out in the Notice of Meeting is an ordinary resolution to consider and, if thought fit, to reelect Muliady Sutio as a Director. Muliady is required by the corporation's law and the company's constitution to retire and offer himself for reelection. Are there any questions or comments in relation to this resolution? The proxy votes received on this resolution are currently displayed on the screen, and I declare the poll open for resolution 3. Please record your vote by placing a mark in the for, against or abstain box on resolution 3 on the blue card provided. Resolution 4 as set out in the Notice of Meeting, is an ordinary resolution to consider and, if thought fit, to reelect Haijun Wang as a director. Haijun is required by the corporation's law and the company's constitution to retire and offer himself for reelection. Are there any questions or comments in relation to this resolution? The proxy votes received on this resolution are currently displayed on the screen, and I declare the poll open for resolution 4. Please be good enough to record your vote and place your mark in the for, against or abstain box for resolution 4 on the blue card provided. Resolution 5 as set out in the Notice of Meeting, is an ordinary resolution to consider and, if thought fit, to reelect Binghe Xiang as a director. Binghe is required by the corporation's law and the company's constitution to retire and offer himself for reelection. Are there any questions or comments in relation to this resolution? The proxy votes received on this resolution are currently displayed on the screen, and I declare the poll open for resolution 5. Please record your vote by placing a mark in the for, against or abstain box for resolution 5 on the blue card. Resolution 6 as set out in the Notice of Meeting is an ordinary resolution to consider and, if thought fit, to reelect Yuanyuan Xu as a director. Yuanyuan is required by the corporation's law and the company's constitution to retire and offer herself for reelection. Are there any questions or comments in relation to this resolution? The proxy votes received on this resolution are currently displayed on the screen. And I declare the poll open for resolution 6. Please be good enough to record your votes now by placing a mark in the for, against or abstain box for resolution 6 on the blue card provided. In a couple of minutes, I'll close the polls. Please ensure that you've cast your vote on all resolutions issue and that you hand your blue voting card to the registry personnel now coming around to collect them. [Voting]

Norman Seckold

executive
#4

Ladies and gentlemen, voting is now closed. The results will be made available on the ASX later today. And I now declare the formal business of the meeting close, but your questions are very welcome. And Justin will also be giving a presentation as soon as we deal with any questions.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#5

I noticed that the last director had a lot of against her. I know she had a degree in fashion [indiscernible] on the Board -- Okay. I just noticed the last director had a lot of against her. And I just looked her up and I know she had a degree in fashion, which I love fashion because I'm a girl. But how is that related to mining? I noticed that she also does marketing, which is great and you need to market nickel. But I just noticed there was quite a few against her, and I just wanted to know, does she add a lot to the Board?

Norman Seckold

executive
#6

That's a good point. There's some history in this. And when -- pre-IPO of the company, her family made a substantial, I think, Justin remind me, USD 23 million investment in the company, and she was appointed to get some -- to broaden her experience. She's been a very valuable director. She's been a good contributor to our governance. The family still retains the holding. And that's the history. But she's a very good director.

Justin Werner

executive
#7

And if I could just add, and we probably need to update her resume. She is now working for one of the leading private equity groups in China. So she is now transitioning into the finance and commodity side of the business. So she's been given an opportunity. And as Norman pointed out, they were very early supportive investors. And so we welcome her role on the Board.

Richard Edwards

executive
#8

You'll see her expanded resume on the website with the annual report.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#9

I just think it's unfortunate that when you look at -- because I always like to see what the directors do. So it's always good if you see mining, engineer, geologist, et cetera, et cetera, the tick, tick, tick. And like I'm a girl, I love fashion. But I just thought it was sort of left to field, and then I noticed that there were quite a few people against her, which is very bad because I think you need more women on the Board. And I'm all pro women because I'm a woman...

Norman Seckold

executive
#10

Voting patterns are interesting things. These negative votes generally come from faceless institutions that you can't really trace back to who it is, what their motives are. They don't talk to us about it. They just lob them in. And you have this...

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#11

Fantastic. I'm happy. My question has been answered.

Norman Seckold

executive
#12

It's just one of the vagaries of public companies, particularly with large institutional shareholders. Yes.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#13

Yes. Definitely.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#14

The AGM -- can you hear me?

Unknown Executive

executive
#15

Please use the microphone so online can hear you as well.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#16

The AGM highlights wanting to broaden your customer base. Obviously, your -- who you're supplying to is a big customer. But is your direction or your focus is broad in the customer base or just maintaining the status quo, how much of a priority is you wanting to broaden the customer base?

Justin Werner

executive
#17

The transition into the HPAL investment is for a number of reasons. Firstly, we see superior margins from an HPAL business. We see a further diversification of the nickel products that we produce, and we think that gives us strength in the market where we see opportunities in certain segments of the nickel market where we can sell in to perhaps capture better margin opportunities. In the HPAL market, we have significantly lower carbon intensity. And also, we have a diversified customer base. We don't see Tsingshan being the sole off-taker of our nickel pig iron as a risk. But unfortunately, some of the ratings agencies do. Some of our investors perceive it to be a risk. And so the diversification into Class I and intermediates will allow us to diversify that customer base. And we're talking to the Tier 1 sort of global EV and OEM names as potential customers. And so look, I think that adds further validation to our project and also the dramatic changes that have been undertaken in Indonesia in terms of the nickel processing landscape that's been developed there. Okay. Well, if there's no further questions. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your attendance at the AGM today. Thanks and all. I have a short presentation, which I'll deliver. Full year 2023 highlights, record group EBITDA USD 403 million. Record nickel production, 131,126 tonnes. That was double our 2022 number and record mine production of 13.4 million wet metric tonnes and pleasingly, record mine EBITDA of USD 87.9 million, which I will touch on a little bit later on. We announced a final dividend of AUD 0.025 per share, which brought full year dividend to AUD 0.045 per share. And subsequent to the year-end, announced on-market share buyback of up to USD 100 million over the next 12 months. We maintained throughout the course of the year, a very strong balance sheet, and that was boosted by an AUD 943 million placement to United Tractors. They are a blue chip listed Indonesian conglomerate, ultimate beneficial owner is Jardine Matheson, the Fortune 500 global company, a history of being a long-term investment partner and a significant footprint across Asia. We also announced a USD 400 million facility with Bank Negara Indonesia, one of Indonesia's largest banks and the first time that an Indonesian bank has come in and finance an HPAL Project. Looking over the course of the year by quarter, you can see at the beginning of the March quarter, we produced 27,398 tonnes of nickel. And you can see the progressive ramp up over the course of the year moving to the December quarter, where you can see we produced 36,273 tonnes of nickel. So December quarter was really the only full quarter of 2023 that we were fully ramped up. If you look at the white and the green bubbles above those bar charts, if we just come back to March, you can see in March, the average LME nickel price for that period was 25,973 tonnes. And green bubble chart, our EBITDA from operations was USD 113.2 million. Moving over to December. The average LME price had declined 60% to $17,288 a tonne, whereas our EBITDA from operations actually rose by almost 30% to USD 135.4 million. So I think over the course of last year and more recently, I think we've demonstrated that throughout the cycle in all environments because we sit at the very bottom end of the cost curve and because of the diversified nature of the nickel products that we sell, that we can retain being a very profitable company and very strong margins. Just to set the backdrop of where we operate in Indonesia. Indonesia has grown from only a few years ago, producing 7% of the world's nickel to last year, producing 55% of the global nickel output. So we like to think of Indonesia as what Western Australia or the Pilbara is to iron ore or the Middle East is to oil and gas. There's really nowhere else in the world that is as well endowed with nickel resources as Indonesia. And that growth is set to continue with some estimates having Indonesia at 75% of global nickel output by the end of this decade. If you look at the names that have invested in country, you can see it's not just Chinese. It's a mixture of North American or European, and there's up to USD 50 billion of committed and actual investment all along the value chain, not just in nickel mining, but in refining, in batteries. You can see Hyundai there, for example, they've broken ground on the first electric vehicle plant in Indonesia. You have European names like BASF, Eramet, you had Ford. There's a recent announcement from Stellantis of a possible HPAL venture into Indonesia. So those names, as I said, European, North American, Korean, Japanese, significant investment is now going in country into Indonesia. In terms of safety, our company-wide 12-month rolling lost time injury rate was 0.23, which is at the end of March 2024, which is 0.6 -- which is significantly lower than The World Steel Association average of 0.65. And our company-wide 12-month rolling total recordable injury rate was 1.14, again, significantly lower than The World Steel Association average of 3.66. We are recognized as a leader in sustainability in ESG in Indonesia, and I'll touch on that in the following slide. But this slide just shows the carbon intensity of an Indonesian HPAL and that particular HPAL is HNC, which you can see there in the green. We hold a 10% interest in that. The carbon intensity, and this is from a group called Skarn out of Europe. They're an independent group. These are all their own independent numbers. HNC came in last year at 6.97 tonnes of carbon per tonne of nickel, almost half of the Australian peer average, which was 11.07. So in fact, there was only one Australian nickel operation that was slightly lower than our interest in our Indonesian HPAL. For our new ENC HPAL, our target is to get right down to the very bottom, to the very left-hand side of that curve, and I'll talk about how we're going to achieve that in a moment. In terms of ESG, we have the highest MSCI ESG rating for any Indonesian-based metals and mining company. We're in the second top quartile, so 69% worldwide of ESG performance for the metals and mining industry group as rated by S&P. So MSCI, S&P, again, these are all independent groups that have done their own audits. These aren't our internal numbers. These are audits from recognized independent groups. The middle column there, the Green PROPER Rating. We're very proud of this. We're 1 of only 2 nickel mines in Indonesia that has a Green PROPER Rating. That is issued by the Indonesian Ministry of Environment and Forestry. The only other nickel mining operation that has a Green PROPER Rating is Vale, and they've been operating in Indonesia since the 70s. We achieved the highest score of all nickel mining companies, and we achieved the fourth highest score amongst all commodities and all mining companies across Indonesia, and we're striving to be the first company to achieve gold and there's a number of initiatives that we're undertaking to achieve that. In terms of our carbon reduction initiatives, we were the first mining company to successfully trial the use of electric vehicle haul trucks in Indonesia. We have a binding Operational Lease and Service Agreement to offtake power from Indonesia's largest solar project to date. Those numbers will actually probably increase to around 255 megawatts peak and about 80 megawatt hours of battery energy storage system. Off the back of our achievements and some of the work that we've done, we were invited to present at the COP28 Climate Summit in Dubai at the end of last year. Again, 1 of only 2 Indonesian mining companies that was invited to present. And it was there that we took the opportunity to announce our target of a 50% reduction in carbon intensity by 2035 and net zero by 2050. Just to briefly summarize our operations. We operate out of 2 industrial parks, IMIP, which is in the island of Sulawesi on the left there, and IWIP, which is on the island of Halmahera which you can see on the right there. Halmahera almost looks like a carbon copy, just smaller in size, but both of these islands extremely well endowed with nickel laterite resources. You can see Hengjaya Nickel, Ranger Nickel, Angel Nickel, Oracle Nickel. That was the basis of the growth of the company, and that was rotary kiln on electric furnaces producing nickel pig iron for the stainless steel market in China. And all of that NPI is offtake by Tsingshan, and they have a new remarkable undertaking to purchase all of it at the market price. Moving to the last 2 columns, you can see Huayue Nickel Cobalt and Excelsior Nickel Cobalt. This is now our transition into HPAL. Different processing technology. RKEF is pyrometallurgical, requires a lot of heat, which requires a lot of power. High pressure acid leach is a hydrometallurgical process, so it actually uses acid to dissolve nickel and cobalt and other elements into solution and it's recovered that way. What that will do is it will further diversify our product mix. So people give us the opportunity to produce MHP, sulphate and cathode. If you look at the second line from the bottom there, all of our operations have significant tax holidays, which have been granted ranging in duration from 7 years up to 15 years and all of them with an additional 2 years at 11%. So it's a very attractive fiscal regime, which has allowed a very quick payback on the investments that we've made to date. The ENC project, this is really the next phase of our growth. We've executed an agreement for a -- it's a third-generation Indonesian HPAL. It will have a capacity of 72,000 tonnes. It will be the first HPAL globally to produce 3 of the key Class 1 nickel products. So that's MHP, nickel sulphate and nickel cathode. We are fully funded for our 55% interest. Shanghai Decent, which is Tsingshan, holds the remaining 45%. We have just commenced a process with one of the Tier 1 investment banks where we've reached out looking for equity and offtake partners in ENC, which would potentially see Shanghai Decent sell down from 45% to around 20%. That process has had a very good response so far. We've had a response from about 16 of the leading EV and battery makers and trading houses. And that's all ex China. So this is North American, European, Korean and Japanese companies. As with every project that we have done historically, with Tsingshan, it comes with a construction guarantee, and I can't overstate the importance and the value of that construction guarantee. The CapEx is USD 2.3 billion on a 100% basis. So with the CapEx guarantee, our 55% interest at USD 1.265 billion is fixed. We don't pay any more. Tsingshan takes the risk on any CapEx increases. It also extends past more than just a CapEx guarantee. It's a nameplate guarantee, and a time frame guarantee of no more than 2 years to construct. And construction started in October of last year. Again, we also benefit from a 15-year tax holiday. How is that being funded? I mentioned the $943 million placement that was done at $1.10 to United Tractors last year. That was -- at the time was at a 28% premium to the share price and then also the loan facilities from B&I and which has been successfully syndicated out to a number of Asian and international banks and as well as the strong cash flow from our existing operations. Just to further highlight the value of a CapEx guarantee. You can see on the left there, ENC and the capital intensity sitting around $30,000 per tonne of nickel produced. You can see all of the projects on the right-hand side there. That capital intensity is significantly higher in cases in excess coming over to the far right there of over $100,000 per tonne of nickel in capacity. The shaded red bar is the announced CapEx increases. A good sort of more recent example is probably the Odysseus mine, which was acquired by IGO for AUD 1.1 billion. That came with a CapEx bill of AUD 300 million to develop within 6 months of acquisition that had blown out to AUD 800 million. You have mines like Horizonte in Brazil. Again, got halfway through the build and announced that they run out of money and they were going to need almost another $1 billion to continue and went into receivership. So we're already at the lowest capital intensity, but we have that CapEx guarantee. Our operations are also underpinned by a world-class ore body, which is the Hengjaya Mine. So you can see where we sit. This is global nickel resources. So we're a top 10 known global nickel resources. So we currently have 3.7 million tonnes of contained nickel metal within the Hengjaya Mine. There is still significant further exploration upside, and we believe that, that number probably will be somewhere close to 5 million tonnes of contained nickel metal. To put that into some perspective, we produced 131,000 tonnes of nickel. We have 3.7 million tonnes of nickel in the ground, only a short distance from our operations. And in fact, our mine is the closest large tonnage, high-grade mine. So there's significant mine supply over many, many years that is available from our Hengjaya Mine, which we own an 80% interest in. And we are now starting to see through the ramp-up of the mine. It is delivering significant EBITDA to the business. I mentioned last year, it delivered $87.9 million of EBITDA, USD 42 million of that came in the fourth quarter of last year. And that is a result of we've now built a haul road, about 15 kilometers in length, which links our mine with the industrial park. And so that has allowed us to take our ore sales from around 3.5 million tonnes to -- we're targeting 10 million tonnes this year. We are also making applications, and we've submitted a revised feasibility and environmental study to increase that again to 22 million tonnes for 2025 with the aim of hitting that rate by the end of 2025. So again, you can see at a $42 million quarterly run rate at 10 million tonnes per annum. The plan is to more than double that by the end of 2025. So the mine is a significant contributor to the business. And it provides a number of other benefits, particularly for any investment partners that provides traceability, which is a key for many investors is what is the source of the ore? How is it being mined? Is it being mined sustainably and responsibly? And you can see from the awards and the ratings that we have that were recognized ESG leader in Indonesia in terms of mining. I'd just like to touch on the HPAL space in Indonesia currently. I think there's been a lot of reports of significant HPAL capacity coming online, and that has put a bit of an overhang on the market. The actual reality of what is occurring in country is very different, and I'll just touch on that here. So in terms of operating plants, we have Huayue Nickel Cobalt at the top there already in operation, and that's the project that we are a 10% shareholder in. If I just skip to other operating HPALs, there's Halmahera Persada Lygend, QMB and PT Huafei there all in operation. If you look at actual HPALs that are funded and under construction, there's only a handful of those. You have ENC, which is obviously our project, fully funded under construction. You have Obi Nickel, which is an expansion of the Halmahera Persada Lygend project, and then you have Blue Sparking Energy, which is another project in IWIP. And then you have -- there is one other project on there, much smaller one, 30,000 tonnes, which is an expansion of the QMB project. If you take those 3 projects and they all average around sort of 65,000 tonnes each, you're looking at about, call it, 200,000 tonnes of new nickel capacity coming online in Indonesia from HPALs that are under construction and that are fully funded. If you put this against the backdrop of what's happening globally, this is the list of announced shuts or projects and mines that are in care and maintenance globally. And you can see in the blue there, that number totals up to 450,000 tonnes. So there's significant supply coming out globally that's not yet being replaced by new capacity coming online in Indonesia. And certainly, we're seeing from a lot of the analysts revision in terms of what their forecast surpluses are. And in fact, some are certainly forecasting that will be in a deficit much sooner than was predicted previously. When you look at these other projects globally, some of them, their OpEx costs are around $24,000 a tonne. Even at today's nickel price of $20,000 a tonne, it still has a long way to go before I think these projects ever come back online if they ever do and become viable. So where do we sit currently in terms of our nickel production. We're at 118,000 tonnes, moving to 157,000 tonnes annually, and this is our attributable nickel production. That makes us the largest listed pure diversified nickel producer globally. We've only been a public company a little over 5 years. In that period of time, you can see we've surpassed the likes of BHP on 56,000, they've been mining in Kambalda since 1967. That rapid growth has been achieved off the back of really those CapEx guarantees that I touched on earlier. In the period of 5 years, we've raised over USD 2 billion in equity, USD 1 billion in debt. And we actually are now Australia's largest foreign investment into Indonesia. So we've surpassed ANZ Bank. But again, it has been off the back of CapEx guarantees, project execution and delivery. If you look further left on that chart, I actually think we'll surpass Vale, but they're not a pure nickel producer. They're obviously diversified. And then you start to get into Norilsk Russian sanctioned uninvestable. Jinchuan Chinese, Delong Chinese and Tsingshan, our largest partner, but also Chinese. So if you're looking for a nickel investment of size and scale that is now diversifying into the Class 1 nickel space for the EV battery market. There's really only one name of any size and scale, and we occupy the bottom end of the cost curve. This is just really a summary of the 2023 highlights. Again, it was a busy year, a number of acquisitions, a number of fundings, a number of ESG awards, and we look forward to continuing that output throughout the course of this year. So finally, again, Nickel Industries is the largest listed pure diversified nickel producer. We have a very diversified asset base. We're now transitioning the business into HPAL and the reason that we're doing that is because of the superior margins that we believe can be captured there to significantly lower carbon intensity and obviously, diversified our customer base, and we are the recognized ESG leader in Indonesia. And so thank you with that, happy to hand over to any questions. Thank you, everyone, for your attendance.

Unknown Executive

executive
#18

Thank you.

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