Nine Entertainment Co. Holdings Limited (NEC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 24, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Michael Sneesby
executiveGood morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for our full year '22 results briefing. I'm Mike Sneesby, CEO of Nine Entertainment. And joining me is our Deputy CFO, Graeme Cassells. I'd like to start off by acknowledging the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We pay our respects to their elders, past, present and emerging, and extend that respect to all First Nations people today. For myself, I'm on the land of the Cammeraygal people of the Eora Nation. 2022 has been a record year for Nine. Record revenue, EBITDA, earnings per share and dividends. We are proud of what we have achieved across all of our businesses and not just the numbers reflected in this result. This year, we've also further enhanced our competitive position, reinforcing Nine as Australia's leading media business. I would like to thank and congratulate the team at Nine on this exceptional result. They're focused on the priorities that drive revenue and growth opportunities across the business while remaining disciplined in cost management. Our audience performance has been consistently strong. We've gained underlying share across all of our platforms by continuing to focus on our key audiences and delivering them the content they want as and when they want it. Our total television business leads in broadcast ratings as well as BVOD streaming for the calendar year-to-date. Importantly, we led the market for total TV revenue in both the June half with a pleasing 41.5% share and also for the full financial year, notwithstanding the impact of 2 Olympics and an Ashes series on another network. Our total television audience strategy focused on the key demographics that advertisers buy across all of our platforms, and that strategy is delivering. In free-to-air, Nine Network has drawn further ahead in the 2022 ratings year-to-date, once again dominating the key demographics. We are also seeing continued audience inflection across our key programming. So far this calendar year, we've seen clear year-on-year growth in total audiences for shows like the Australian Open, Married At First Sight, Travel Guides, The State of Origin and most recently, the launch of The Block. The 18th season of The Block launched a couple of weeks ago with season-to-date audience up almost 28% on a total television basis, including almost 60% growth in streaming on 9Now. Our free streaming business, 9Now, grew live streams by 50% across the year, and minutes streamed by 72%, as we continue to broaden its advertiser base beyond the traditional television advertisers into the digital video market. There have been wins across all of our radio markets in FY '22. Ben Fordham has recorded 2GB breakfast best-ever cumulative audience. Ray Hadley celebrated 20 years hosting mornings on 2GB while delivering his best-ever survey result. 3AW's Breakfast team, Ross and Russ, celebrated 17 consecutive surveys at #1. While Breakfast in Melbourne recorded 162 consecutive surveys at the top. And earlier this week, our new team for Breakfast in Brisbane, Laurel, Gary and Mark, posted a record cumulative audience for the 4BC breakfast slot in their very first survey with Nine. Nine's strategy of live and local, coupled with our cross-platform sales proposition is clearly paying off with EBITDA growth of more than 80% across the year. The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Australian Financial Review have all continued to add subscribers underpinning overall growth in subscription revenues. In addition, with the registered audience base now passing 1 million, we are able to collect behavioral data for more readers across Australia every day. This result also reflected our first year of revenues from digital platform deals, giving us increased confidence to continue our investments in the future of the business. Excluding the digital platforms, underlying EBITDA growth was around 23%, a direct reflection of our quality journalism, our audience engagement and our long-term investment decisions, the ones that we're continuing to make. Our subscription streaming business, Stan, is Australia's leading local streaming service. Through this period, Stan has continued to grow both sports and entertainment subscribers and has actively invested in sport, events and originals to build a stronger, more differentiated and valuable business for the future. Our strong balance sheet has enabled us to continue to assess and take investment opportunities where they make strategic sense and financial sense for Nine. In 2022, we invested in Stan, we actively supported Domain's investment in Realbase, and we've continued to enhance the 9Now product experience through significant technology upgrades, whilst maintaining our commitment to market-leading content across all platforms. Notwithstanding this investment, our balance sheet has continued to strengthen with leverage now less than 0.3x. Reflecting the strength of our operating performance and the recent trading in our shares, we have today announced an on-market buyback of up to 10% of our issued capital to be implemented over the next 12 months. This initiative leaves Nine with the capacity to maintain a dividend payout ratio of around 60% to 80% through the cycle as well as further investment in strategic growth opportunities, both organic and inorganic. Turning now to our results. Today, we have reported a 24% increase in EBITDA, including half 2 EBITDA growth of more than 40%. Both our Broadcast and Publishing businesses have announced record results, and we've exceeded key operational milestones at our growth business of Stan, 9Now and Domain. On Page 4, you'll see the performance of the various parts of our business and the obvious benefits of our portfolio of assets. There is a clear benefit to all of our businesses from being part of the Nine Group, both in terms of content and monetization. The benefit of this revenue diversity will enable us to continue to deliver strong results through the cycle. The chart on Page 5 highlights Nine's progress as our business further expands through digital distribution. Digital revenue increased by almost 30% to more than $1.1 billion while digital EBITDA grew by 43% and accounted for more than half of total group EBITDA. Nine is in a unique position in the Australian media industry. Our strategy is delivering increasingly diverse revenue streams from both consumer subscriptions and advertising with a growing digital component. At this point, I'd like to ask Graeme to talk through the group financials.
Graeme Cassells
executiveThanks, Mike, and good morning, everyone. Nine reported group revenue of $2.7 billion, up 15% on the prior comparable period and group EBITDA of $701 million, which was up 24% on FY '21. This followed on from half 1 growth of 15% and was slightly ahead of the 22%-plus guidance we gave at our first half results in February. Group net profit after tax and minorities, and before specific items was $349 million, up 34%. We also reported a net specific item cost of $58 million, of which $23 million related to Domain. On a statutory basis, net profit for the year was $315 million. The Board has approved the payment of a fully franked final dividend of $0.07 with this result. On a full year basis, the dividend of $0.14 equates to 68% of debt profit after tax and before specific items. This is an increase of $0.035 per share on FY '21 and marks Nine's highest annual dividend payment in its history. Slide 8 details the composition of specific items, which together totaled a cost of around $77 million pretax, around 1/3 of which were covered by Domain in the result last week. Of the residual $54 million, $13 million related to the implementation of our finance modernization program and $35 million related to surplus leased property, specifically Media House in Melbourne, where the lease runs for a further 7 years. On Page 9, we look at operating cash flows, focusing on the wholly owned business so it ties into wholly owned net debt. For the year, operating cash flow was $570 million, excluding the Domain Group. Cash conversion was 99%. There was a modest working capital build of just $7 million. On Page 10, we have reconciled net debt of the wholly owned group from the starting position at 1 July of $171 million to the broadly unchanged $173 million we have reported for June 30. Beyond the operating cash flow movements from wholly owned businesses, Nine distributed dividends of $213 million to shareholders, capital expenditure was $48 million and tax was paid of $115 million. We also invested $131 million in Domain to support its acquisition of Realbase earlier this year. On a wholly owned basis, our leverage at the end of June was around 0.3x EBITDA. As Mike has mentioned, we've announced with this result the commencement of an on-market buyback of up to 10% of Nine's issued capital or up to 170 million shares. Nine intends to maintain its dividend payout ratio of around 60% to 80% through the cycle and retains the capacity to further invest in strategic growth opportunities. This announcement reflects Nine's strong balance sheet and confidence in our outlook. Whilst the macroeconomic outlook remains uncertain, we are particularly confident in our ability to grow revenue share and further strengthen our relative position through this period. I'll now hand back to Mike to add some further color on the divisional results.
Michael Sneesby
executiveThanks, Graeme. Starting with our Broadcast division, comprising our total Television business and 9Radio, which contributed around 54% of group revenue and 59% of EBITDA. Focusing first on total Television. Across the year, Nine recorded total TV revenue growth of 10% to $1.3 billion, of which 13% was digital revenue, up from 9% in FY '21. EBITDA growth of 19% was marginally below earlier guidance with the key difference being the more than $2 million total Television component of the $5 million group-wide recognition bonus paid late in the period. This record result reflected the strength of Nine's programming performance across the year as well as the clear benefit of our cross-platform sales proposition. In FY '22, Nine free-to-air EBITDA lifted 14% to $285 million, resulting in a full year margin of almost 26%, as we continue to lead the industry in key ratings and underlying revenue share. As mentioned at our interim results, in survey year 2021, Nine once again won the year in all key demographics on both the network and primary channel basis. That momentum has continued into calendar year 2022. The year started well with an amazing Australian Open as well supported by key strips like LEGO Masters and Married At First Sight, as well as Travel Guides and our core news and current affairs and sports content. The back half has also started strongly. As I mentioned earlier, with The Block launching with incredible numbers in a competitive slot. In a free-to-air market of $2.8 billion, Nine's revenues for the year were more than $1.1 billion, equating to growth of around 7% on the prior comparable period. Once again, we lead the market in metro revenue share across the year with a 40.6% share in the June half. Reported free-to-air costs were just under 5% higher than PCP, inclusive of an $8 million increase in broadcast license fees and a $10 million increase in tennis rights cost, coming back from post-COVID. The second half cost increase of just over 4%, being slightly below that recorded in half 1. Turning to Slide 16. 9Now continued to perform strongly and consistently across the year with revenue growth of 41% and EBITDA growth of 37% to $101 million. Whilst the BVOD market grew by 47% across the year, it remains a growing subset of the total digital video market of around $3.5 billion. 9Now strong growth in all key metrics, including daily active users, up 33% and 75% growth in live streams, shows meaningful progress as we focus on the opportunity of the broader digital video advertising market. Nine's premium content, coupled with the advantage of our first-party database of around 20 million signed-in users, and a monthly reach of almost 16 million across Nine's unrivaled network of media platforms, continues to give us the confidence in 9Now's future. We are quite literally growing and defining the market. 9Radio's ad revenues grew by 14%, ahead of the 10% growth in the market. Share growth was driven primarily by agency revenues with growth in Tier 1 agencies in all cap cities. We've invested through 2022 in the extension of our radio business to digital, with the introduction of Nine's single sign-on and the investment in the technology to enable targeted advertising, resulting in digital streaming revenues being included in this result for the first time. As I mentioned earlier, radio audiences grew by 10% across the year, importantly, including growth of 5% in the 25 to 54s, Nine's key agency demographic. We have lifted our revenue share to around 17%, and the cost base has been significantly restructured. So the business is primed for further growth ahead of the ad market movements and augmented by further digital penetration and monetization. Stan's revenue growth for the year of 22% was underpinned by growth in both entertainment and sports subscribers as well as 9% growth in ARPU. Excluding Stan Sport, Stan's costs were up by around 16%, reflecting the ramp-up of both the NBCU output deal and Stan's original productions. Overall, Stan reported EBITDA of $29 million. With more than 2.5 million active subscribers and clearly positive cash flow and profitability, Stan has been focused on creating a differentiated and defensible market position. The launch of Stan Sport and Stan Event have outperformed our expectations and added significantly to the value and sustainability of Stan in the Australian market. This year, we have seen market sentiment towards global streaming businesses turning rapidly, with the spotlight now firmly on profitability. As a result, we are seeing more diversified strategies for global content distribution, a more rational direct-to-consumer streaming market and a greater volume of premium content available for licensing. This has placed Stan in very good stead. Already operating at scale with more than 3 years of profitability and a strong pipeline of original programming, Stan is well-placed to partner with international studios and content producers. Turning now to Page 19. For the year, our combined Publishing business derived more than 60% of its revenue from digital sources and around 37% from subscriptions and licensing, both key to the long-term future of the business. Digital subscription and licensing revenue grew by more than 66% to $171 million across the year, driven by growing digital subscriber numbers across each of The Herald, The Age and the Australian Financial Review, as well as revenues from Google and Facebook. Digital subscriptions are a key growth driver for the publishing business. Total active subscribers grew in the high single digits on a percentage basis across the 12 months to more than 450,000 as of June 30. Incremental registered users now exceed 1 million, just over 12 months since the launch of the registration wall for The Herald and The Age. Advertising revenue across both digital and print continued with positive momentum. Digital advertising revenues recorded growth of 10%, notwithstanding the end of the former Google sales agreement in February of 2021, while print ad revenues rebounded strongly with above market growth in all key categories. Overall, Publishing costs increased by $27 million or 7%. Around half of this related to increases in staff and production costs, the remainder reflecting Nine's ongoing investment in products and content as well as some post-COVID cost rebalances. In total, Publishing reported EBITDA of $180 million, growth of $62 million or 53% on the prior year. Excluding the net impact of the revenues from the digital platforms, Publishing EBITDA would have been up by around 23%. Outperformance over previous guidance was driven stronger -- driven by stronger subscription in advertising revenues. Domain reported last week, and Page 19 summarizes their results. Ongoing EBITDA growth of 38% reflected the success of Domain's marketplace strategy, together with the underlying strength in the property market. All key business units reported growth in revenues. The 24% growth in digital revenues was underpinned by residential with 9% growth in national listing volumes, coupled with a strong 14% increase in controllable yield. This result reflected the initial contributions from Domain's recent acquisitions of Realbase and IDS as the group continues to deliver on building out its marketplace strategy. What links all of these businesses together and underpins the growth and profitability of our digital revenue streams is our data. You've heard about our pool of more than 20 million registered users. And whilst that's a big number, it's not the only number that matters. The scale of our registered users gives us the first-party data relationship with our audience, which enables us to understand more about them. But what enables us to generate advertising revenue and increase yield is the volume of content our audiences consume and the frequency of which they engage across our network. More than 16 million people engage with our network every month across our mastheads and broader publishing platforms, streaming on 9Now or streaming on 9Radio, Nine's digital asset suite is unrivaled. I'll now turn to current trading. The new year started on a positive note in terms of audiences across all platforms. And while broader economic conditions have become more uncertain, the advertising market to date has remained resilient. Nine is confident that the diversification and balance of its earnings profile across growth, subscription and advertising-based businesses will ensure ongoing strong margin and profit performance, with almost half of Nine's revenues now coming from outside the traditional advertising cycle. Across all of our advertising-driven businesses, total Television, Publishing and Radio, we are confident that in FY '23, our advertising revenues will grow more strongly than the underlying markets in which they operate. For the September quarter, total Television revenues are expected to grow in the high single digits, driven by growth in both linear and streaming. For the first quarter of FY '23, Nine's metro free-to-air revenue is expected to be up in the low to mid-single digits on a percentage basis, which includes some significant share gain on the same period last year. 9Now continues its growth trajectory with more than 30% revenue growth expected in the September quarter over the prior comparable period. Nine expects this positive momentum to continue through the rest of 2023 as 9Now continues to build its presence in the broader digital video advertising market. Total Television costs are expected to show a similar percentage increase in FY '23 to that reported in FY '22, albeit, an increased weighting to half 1. This phasing is due primarily to the investments in the Cricket World Cup, the U.S. Open and the timing of Ninja Warrior. These investments are expected to further support the group's leading total Television revenue share and expanding share of the digital video advertising market. Radio's Q1 advertising revenues are expected to grow in the low double digits on a percentage basis, driven by improved market share as well as continuing growth in digital revenues. In Publishing, total advertising revenues are expected to grow in the mid- to high single digits in the first quarter of FY '23 with growth in key categories, especially travel. Nine's subscription businesses, Stan, Publishing and Domain continued to grow in relative importance to the group. Subscription revenues in the first quarter are expected to grow in the mid-single digits at the key mastheads and low double digits at Stan. In FY '23, Nine is expected to record growth in both revenue and EBITDA at Stan, with EBITDA expected to be more evenly phased across the halves than in FY '22. As Domain cited last week, trading for the first 6 weeks of FY '23 reflects ongoing growth in new listings, coupled with further expansion in depth penetration. FY '23 will also reflect a full period of the recent strategic acquisitions of Realbase and IDS. Through FY '23, Nine intends to continue to invest in the future of its business through targeted content investments across all key platforms as well as ongoing focus on digital technologies and the utilization of the group's extensive database. Underlying cost inflation will primarily relate to people with an expected base wage increase of around 3%. Across all of its businesses, Nine remains focused on tight cost management, balancing investment with returns and longer-term growth opportunities. In total, Nine is expecting half 1 FY '23 group EBITDA of $380 million to $400 million. It's been a big year for Nine. We've made marked progress against our previously stated targets of digital EBITDA and revenue from video on-demand and subscriptions as we broaden our business from reliance solely on traditional advertising. And whilst numerical progress was clearly made in FY '22, we have also had great success in expediting our digital strategy. Notwithstanding our traditional businesses have performed markedly better than we expected, we are well ahead of where we expected to be, and it's our execution that stands us apart. Execution on our content strategy and the focus on delivering growth in digital audiences, investment in our products, and the associated technology to ensure that we have a world-class consumer experience, and optimization of our advertising proposition through technology and data, all ensuring that we remain the leader in the Australian media market. We're excited about the future of Nine. We are delivering on growth opportunities across all of our businesses, and we will continue to support that growth through targeted investment. During 2022, we have also elevated the strategic focus of the whole of Nine, engaging with our Board in a more rigorous and strategic way, while creating a unified vision and purpose across the group. In a First for Nine, our staff were invited to join a conversation on Nine's purpose and values. This process has been inspiring for me to be involved in, witnessing the engagement and a clear passion for Nine demonstrated by our team members from all parts of our business and from right across the country. Having a clearly communicated and understood purpose and vision and considered values unites us and provides a framework for a high-performance culture at Nine, crucial to our long-term success. Nine is creating and executing the blueprint for the future of media in Australia, and we will remain at the forefront of that future. That now concludes the formal part of today's presentation. And Graeme and I will now join our Chief Revenue Officer, Michael Stephenson; and James Chessell, our Managing Director of Publishing, for the Q&A session.
Michael Sneesby
executiveWell, thanks for joining us, and we'll now take the first question from the operator.
Operator
operatorYour first question comes from Fraser Mcleish with MST Marquee.
Fraser Mcleish
analystYes, great. Obviously, great to see that strong growth at 9Now continuing. I was wondering if you could, Mike, maybe just go in a little bit more detail about some of the factors driving that growth? And maybe in particular, what happens in a tougher advertising market? Do you think BVOD can still deliver strong growth? And then my second one, maybe just on Stan Sport. You've been going for just over a year now. Maybe just what are the key learnings on that and what are the opportunities for further growth in Stan Sport?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes, okay. Look, I'd probably just reflect back on some of the commentary we made in the result presentation talking about the mix of revenues that we now see decoupled from the advertising cycle. And certainly, 9Now, our BVOD revenues, is one of those revenue streams. I might get Steve just to give a bit more color around the confidence we have behind that growth.
Michael Stephenson
executiveYes, sure. Thanks, Mike, and thanks, Fraser. Mike mentioned in his results presentation that we would see revenue growth of 30% in the quarter and of course, right through the half, which I think underpins and supports the confidence that we have in BVOD to continue to grow. I think there are a number of factors that are influencing that growth. The first, of course, is consumer behavior has fundamentally changed. So we're seeing increased audience, in particular, in the live stream and audience will equal revenue, of course, immediately and even more so over time. The second part is BVOD by nature, brings together the very best of television and the very best of digital. So the ability for us to deliver more targeted advertising within that platform, again, creates greater demand from advertisers. January of next year, we'll see the launch of VOZ and VOZ will allow advertisers to buy or maximize reach across both linear and BVOD in combination. And that, again, will be a huge driver of demand for BVOD, I think, right through the cycle. All of those things in combination allow us to enter into and accelerate the growth from the digital video market, which, of course, is important to us over time. And I think to your question, Fraser, allows us to go through the cycle irrespective of what's happening in traditional advertising markets.
Michael Sneesby
executiveThanks. And Fraser, I think the second part of the question on Stan Sport or Stan, related to what we've seen in Stan Sports this year, if I captured that correctly. And so look, I think the key thing for Stan Sport this year is we've seen certainly the way that we've modeled our view of sport. You'll recall, we've spoken previously around the way we think about investment in sport and the fact that we target the need for every sport that we bring on to the Stan Sport platform to be contribution-positive. So number one, we've really seen that play out. The team at Stan have done a great job of understanding the data and understanding the subscription propensity for each of the sports that they have acquired, and we've had great success in achieving those targets. The second aspect really has been the addition that Stan Sport has brought to the overall Stan proposition. We saw from an early stage with Stan that those subscribers who sign up to Stan Sport are a far stickier subscriber. They engage at a greater level with our entertainment content. So the way that Stan Sport and Stan Entertainment are working together to create a stronger, stickier subscriber base has been a great outcome for us this year.
Fraser Mcleish
analystGreat. And just opportunities for further growth in Stan Sport. I guess you got the Rugby World Cup you've just announced.
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. Look, we've had great growth this year, on top of the sport that we've already got on the platform. As you know, we've recently announced the World Cup. So of course, we'd expect incremental subscriber opportunity coming from that. And of course, as we develop Stan Sport and Stan brand across the sport that we have on platform, we also expect to see that subscriber engagement grow year-on-year. And we've spoken previously about the model that we have in place with Stan, the ability to share some of that content on the free-to-air network, build audiences, and then effectively grow our subscription base. And we'd expect that dynamic to continue to play out.
Operator
operatorNext question comes from Eric Choi with Barrenjoey.
Eric Choi
analystJust a few for me. Firstly, you guys don't normally give first half group guidance this early. So maybe can you just speak to what's giving you confidence in providing a rank so early? Secondly, you're guiding to a small-ish $15 million EBITDA decline in first half '23, and I'm just wondering if it's reasonable to expect a small decline in second half as well, just with the cost and Stan levers you have, even if we do get a tougher macro? And then the third question on TV cost guidance of 7%. Can you talk to what else is driving the increase besides sports? I think you've talked to local content in the past.
Michael Sneesby
executiveRight, there's a lot in that to try and unpack. So I'll do my best at running through it. And if I miss something, please pull me up on it. But firstly, in terms of the guidance that we've given, the reason for us giving guidance for half 1. Well, as I said before, we are seeing now more than ever before, a bigger proportion of our revenue and drivers of EBITDA coming from the components of our business or revenues in our business that are decoupled from the cycle. And of course, when we think about our EBITDA, certainly over the first half and for the year, in fact, it is the advertising cycle that is the -- probably the biggest variable in where we end up. So the decoupling of a large part of our revenue streams gives us greater confidence at this point in the cycle versus prior years. And of course, at this point in time, our ad systems are open, particularly in television, right through to the end of the year. So Steve has quite good visibility in terms of how the market is shaping up. I would say, however, if you look at any risk to the guidance we've given in that first half, it does remain primarily the ad cycle. But again, visibility in the market, confidence in what we're seeing in that sentiment gives us a great sense of where we think we're headed for the half and limits the risk to that. In terms of cost in, I might get Graeme to talk a little bit more to that. But we did guide to a cost increase that was similar this year in total television to what we saw last year. What I would say is that, that cost increase is expected to be more weighted to the front end. And within that cost increase, there are a range of things that we're doing that are investing in and growing the business, it's not a pure increase in cost. But maybe, Graeme, if you can provide a bit more color just what we're expecting to see in those cost increases.
Graeme Cassells
executiveYes. Sure, Mike. So as Mike said, we are very focused on -- we're very cost conscious and where we are putting costs and it's where we expect to see a return on that and revenue coming off the back of it. So specifically, in total TV, as we said, we're expecting the cost to go up, but it's around about sport, which is specifically Cricket World Cup, continuing to invest in tennis with U.S. Open, with the NRL coming -- increase in the second half and we've got Ashes, so that's a sport covered. We're going to continue to invest in 9Now through -- whether it's through increase in content, further technology improvements and marketing where we see a return. And there'll also be -- obviously, as that grows, there'll be cost of sales growth associated with that as well. And as Mike says, the phasing -- obviously, we're not giving full year guidance, but the phasing on the costs are more weighted in total TV to the first half than they were last year, primarily because of the Cricket World Cup and the U.S. Open and also in Ninja timing. In particular this year, some other local timing as well. But that's skewing the cost into the first half issue.
Michael Sneesby
executiveThanks, Graeme.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Kane Hannan with Goldman Sachs.
Kane Hannan
analystJust 3 for me as well. I might just start on the TV OpEx. I mean are you able to share, I suppose, what percentage growth in OpEx you're assuming in the first half in that guidance range? Secondly, Stan. You made some pretty positive comments in, Mike, around the environment. You're guiding to double-digit revenue growth for the year. Is it right to assume some sort of margin expansion coming through at Stan or are there lumpy costs I should be thinking about? And then lastly, I know the targets are set before your time, Mike. I suppose you're well on the way to that 60% digital EBITDA target by FY '24. Any sort of changes internally around your aspirations for that number? Just...
Michael Sneesby
executiveMaybe if I take the Stan side of things and the 60% first, I might get Graeme to sort of see if there's anything that he can provide an additional color around those costs. But yes, look, in relation to Stan, what we've said this year, of course, is we expect that the revenue and EBITDA will grow within that business. And of course, within that, we are expecting an increase in the cost base. Having said that, the cost increase that we're expecting to see in the Stan business this year over last year is a smaller cost increase than what we saw in '22 over '21. Hopefully, that gives you some color around that. And look, in terms of those targets, yes, look, certainly, we've made terrific progress towards those targets of digitizing our business. And I think important to note, and I think a reflection of the way the team has focused on our digital growth within the business. That's in an environment where our traditional revenues have actually delivered ahead of our long-term expectations. So we're still delivering on those growth expectations in digital against a bigger traditional business than what was in our original long-term forecast. So in the context of that, it's a fantastic achievement from the team. Look, I think we've outlined the strategy this year. We've engaged heavily with our Board around what that looks like. Internally, we are starting to set new targets, and we're certainly not putting any out there publicly today. But look, I think reflecting on a great set of progress in digital within the business. Do you want to...
Graeme Cassells
executiveOn the phase...
Michael Sneesby
executiveGive a little bit more information, right...
Graeme Cassells
executiveLook, on the phasing, it's -- I think, as I said, it is more weighted last year. It's probably 2 to 3 percentage points in total.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from Lucy Huang with UBS.
Lucy Huang
analystMike, Graeme and team, I've got 3 questions as well. So maybe if I can first start off with also TV OpEx and also wage inflation comments you've made. Does this go through the year to pull out some incremental costs out across the rest of the business to counteract these pressures? And then secondly, in relation to the free-to-air ad market. Just wondering if you can give us a guide as to how July and August is trending for the free-to-air ad markets right now and what your expectation is coming into the first half? And then with Stan, just wondering if you can give us some color on subscriber momentum so far. And if you can give us some color as to where subscribers are flocking to? Are they signing up onto the platform for Stan Sports or primarily Stan Entertainment?
Michael Sneesby
executiveAll right. I'm almost certainly going to have to come back and get you repeat some of the ones at the end there, Lucy. But let me start with the cost component of things and what we're doing across the business. And reiterating what Graeme said, our focus in the business is on cost discipline and underlying costs within the business. And where we are increasing expenditure, it is in areas that are focused on growing the business. In the current environment, obviously, some uncertainty in that outlook. We continue to forecast strength in all of our businesses, both in terms of their profitability and margins. So in terms of where we might put in place expenditure that relates to growth, we aren't expecting to pull back on that. We believe that we're in a strong position to continue to make investments on the same basis as we would, with a clear visibility to growth right through this cycle. Having said that, we're keeping a very close eye on the cycle, and we do have levers within the business. And of course, again, cost discipline across all areas of our business. Longer term, as you see, Nine become an increasingly digital business, of course. You see efficiencies that inherently get built into that business. And over the long term, and we look at cost out programs that relate to gaining efficiency and costs right across the board. And we'd expect to continue to pursue those costs over the long term. In terms of wage inflation, you'll note in our commentary, we made a statement around expectation of a 3% increase, so thereabouts, in our base salaries. That is reflecting that the market today, of course, is pressured on inflation in the current year. But again, I think there's pressures and headwinds in the business that we have to manage in the coming years as well. So we've set that target, and we're obviously working closely with our team. You will notice, though, within our cost base, we're offsetting some of that wage pressure in the way that we work with and think about investing in our staff. We've done that certainly in terms of rewarding staff through the recognition bonus from this year's success in financial numbers. We're also increasing the way in which we spend money to invest in people, both in terms of training and education. And of course, a big piece of work the team has been focused on this year around [ bedding ] in our values and purpose as an organization. So there's a lot happening around our team outside of simply a discussion around wage increases and wage inflation. So hopefully, that captures that piece. I might get you then just to repeat the other questions after that.
Lucy Huang
analystSo my other question was around ad market in free-to-air. Just how are they trending currently in July and August? And I guess, what are you implying in that first half guidance for ad market growth?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. I'll ask Steve to give some comment there.
Michael Stephenson
executiveThe July and August linear ad market, obviously, heavily impacted by the, in fact, the Olympic Games are on that period in the PCP. So markets, obviously, we'll be back over those periods, however that's 2 months. Into September, October, November and December, what we're effectively seeing is the free-to-air market return back to its pre-COVID CAGR. So -- and within that, of course, Nine is growing its share fairly significantly. And so the first quarter of the fiscal, will be in and around a 40% share and growing our share through the second quarter.
Lucy Huang
analystWonderful. And sorry, just the last question around Stan. So where are subscribers flocking to when they sign on to the platform? Are they going to Stan Sports in the first instance or the entertainment product?
Michael Sneesby
executiveLook, it's hard to generalize. And of course, every subscriber does behave very differently. Suffice to say, we've had continued growth in both entertainment subscribers and sports subscribers and including those subscribers who are entertainment-only. So fair to say, we've had a consistent growth across both parts of the business, in terms of opportunity in the way that subscribers engage with our content.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Entcho Raykovski with Credit Suisse.
Entcho Raykovski
analystI've got a few questions, and I might ask them one by one. The first one is on Stan. I'm just interested in whether you're seeing any signs of consumer weakness over the last few months. I'll suspect that's the one business, which is, I mean, very much consumer-facing. So are you seeing sort of people churning off more quickly and then coming back perhaps and whether there are any other indicators that suggest that consumer is more cautious?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. Thanks for breaking the questions up, Entcho, it certainly makes it easier on our end. Look, what we've expected post-COVID and lockdowns to see a level of consolidation in the subscription streaming market and which is what we're seeing today. Of course, what you're referring to more is a question around is cost inflation on the consumer wallet having an impact. Look, I think it's hard to decouple the two. And I think actually, what we're seeing occur right now in the economy and for consumers and households is a reflection of somewhat related to the back end of COVID and things that happened during lockdown. So I think if you roll it all together, certainly, we are seeing what we expected to see, which is a level of flattening off. But I'd continue to reiterate that Stan has plenty of growth opportunity ahead of it. Whenever you invest in great content, you create something, which is differentiated and unique proposition, which is what Stan has done. You create that opportunity for growth. So over the long term, we continue to see great opportunity for Stan.
Entcho Raykovski
analystOkay. And when you were -- in your opening comments, you spoke about sort of the global environment in streaming. Are you seeing the cost of available content actually coming down? And are you baking that into your guidance and longer-term expectations?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. Look, it's -- the content market is, obviously, just that. It's a market, and it's driven by supply and demand. But at the same time, it's not a perfect market because, obviously, content comes through in, output deals that comes through in, single sales of programs and those sorts of things. So if the market was in a perfect state, you'd probably say I'd expect to see a little bit of downward pressure. It obviously depends on the deal that's available at the time, the value of that content and the strategic nature of that content. So I think I'll just reiterate what I said before, which is that we are expecting to see revenue and EBITDA growth in Stan this year, and we are going to see a cost increase, but it won't be at the same level we saw across the business in '22.
Entcho Raykovski
analystOkay. Got it. And then I've got a couple related to the buyback. Are you able to give us some color on what the incremental funding costs are that you incur to fund the buyback? So obviously, I mean, you might have to draw down some debt. So is that debt cost linked to movements in the reference rate?
Michael Sneesby
executiveI'll hand this one to Graeme, if he want to give a little bit of color. I don't think we're going go into -- I'm don't think we're going to get into the details of the funding cost...
Graeme Cassells
executiveI'm not going to go into -- it's -- I obviously -- it obviously depends on how quickly we do the buyback and what the share price and everything else is. I can't give any guidance at all on how much incremental interest is going to be, but it's certainly not something that I'm going to set into.
Entcho Raykovski
analystOkay. And maybe just a follow-up to that. Should we take the buyback announcement to mean that, I guess, right now, you're viewing that as the most accretive use of capital?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. I'd reiterate the statements we made in both the release and the outlook, and that is that we've announced today's buyback and also reiterated that, that buyback and our balance sheet capacity gives us the ability to continue to have capacity for further investments, either organically or inorganically in the business as well as to continue to pay dividends at that circa 60% to 80% range that we've guided to previously. So the buyback doesn't prevent us from making other investment options. Obviously, the announcement reflects the fact that with that balance sheet, we think it's the prudent use of capital, particularly with the share price and the valuation on our business undervalued as it is today.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Brian Han with Morningstar.
Brian Han
analystIn Publishing, and I'm just looking at your digital publishing revenue. How much bigger are the margins on subscription and licensing on the one hand and digital advertising on the other?
Michael Sneesby
executiveLook, I'd probably refer to James to give a bit of commentary around that. I think the specific margin question might be difficult for us to be -- to break it down.
Graeme Cassells
executiveNo, we can't decouple the margins on it, if I'm understanding the question correctly.
Michael Sneesby
executiveLet's just -- I mean, what you are saying is the difference in margin across subscription versus the advertising business, is that right?
Brian Han
analystYes.
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes, look, I mean, we don't forecast our business in that way. It's not sort of -- it's not a metric that we drive the business by. But I think suffice to say, we have said previously in our Publishing business that as our business becomes more digital, purely because of the efficiency in the way that we deliver content, whether through an advertising or subscription business, you create a more profitable business on a per unit basis, but we don't break that out on any level.
Brian Han
analystFair enough. On Stan, do you think having 9Now helps how you run or long-term plan for Stan? And do you ever see a scenario in Australia where SVOD and BVOD start converging with one another?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. You just broke up a little bit there, Brian. I think you said does having 9Now assist us with Stan. Was that the number -- the first part of the question?
Brian Han
analystYes, in terms of how you run or long-term plan for Stan.
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. So look, I think we've said this previously mostly in relation to the question mark about would we put advertising on Stan given that, that has been a direction that some of the international streaming platforms have taken. I think certainly, the reason for keeping Stan as a subscription business and 9Now quite independent over the years that Stan has been around and that 9Now has been around is to clearly differentiate the proposition for the consumer market. Establish Stan as a brand in subscription streaming, and establishing 9Now as a brand that is an extension of Nine, but also a platform for ad-funded streaming. I think you do get cannibalization and risk of consumer confusion and effectively a risk of diluting value, if you bring those things together as you're trying to establish brands. Having said that, I wouldn't rule out the 2 businesses doing more together over the long term in terms of the ability to share and distribute our audience. Stan is now clearly established as Australia's leading local streaming service with the highest brand recognition in the marketplace in that category. And 9Now also has developed itself to being a key part of our broadcast audience. So now that the consumer understands those propositions, the ability for us to do more together without diluting value becomes a reality. So I certainly wouldn't rule out doing more in relation to data and sharing of our audiences to maximize value for Nine. I do think that is unique proposition. I don't see a world necessarily where you would merge those 2 things into one. There are a lot of other things we can do in the technology space that allows us to create value, without having to make it a singular business.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Roger Samuel with Jefferies.
Roger Samuel
analystGood result. I've got 3 questions as well, I'll ask them one by one. First one, just on the -- just a quick one on the phasing of cost in total television, more towards the first half. Is it kind of one-off in FY '23 or is it going to continue in FY '24 onwards?
Michael Sneesby
executiveI'll give that one to Graeme. I think he did touch on a couple of what a few of those costs were and they're sort of self-explanatory as to whether they would return. But do you want to just maybe touch on a few of those again? We're unpacking a lot, I think, in that first question so might have been missed.
Graeme Cassells
executiveYes. Well, if I'm being honest, I'm not sure that I've looked that far ahead to look at the costs into the future and the phasing of it in the future years. If that's -- if I'm getting the question right.
Michael Sneesby
executiveI think it's more about -- in some of those costs, obviously, we talked about there being some sports broadcast. Some of those rights are one-off case.
Graeme Cassells
executiveSorry, I misunderstand. Yes, some of them are one-off, but there will be other one-offs that -- or they're not one-off, but there will be others that will come back as well. But as I've said, we will continually look at the content for total TV to see how it's best -- the money is best spent.
Michael Sneesby
executiveAnd I think just to add to that point. When you break down what is in that expenditure, a big proportion of it outside of some of those sports costs, some of which may be one-off and some of them, which may reoccur under ongoing deals like our new NRL deal, the proportion of costs,, which are outside those sports rights are in things that are clear investments in growth, mostly related to 9Now. There are investments which we are making on a proactive basis, not making because there is cost inflation in those businesses. So they are very clear decisions to make investments in either technology, content or in marketing, where we have a clear line of sight to growth opportunities. So we feel very comfortable, as I said before, about investing through this cycle as we see the ad markets roll through '23.
Roger Samuel
analystOkay. And my second question is on Stan. You don't give a specific number for the subscribers. So it's more than 2.5 million in this results, and it's around 2.5 million in February as well. What's your strategy from this? Are you trying to grow your subscriber numbers? Or is it more about increasing the add-ons like Stan Sports?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. Certainly, we -- as I'll restate what I said before, which is we continue to see the long-term growth opportunity in Stan's entertainment base. And the numbers that we've seen flowing through this year or into the start of this financial year are a direct reflection of what we provided as outlook previously. We did expect to see a level of flattening off in consolidation, of course. In some numbers we've seen in the market. We're seeing some of those services go backwards rather than flattening off this year. The number between February and where we are today is a small increase, albeit we're giving the same sort of indication when we say it's about 2.5 million. So we've had a solid stability in the base in entertainment, at a time that's been expected to consolidate. We've had great growth in the sport product and the launch of sport at a very opportune time to continue to underwrite the stickiness of our subscribers right across the platform. But over the long term, we see continued growth opportunity in both entertainment and sport.
Roger Samuel
analystOkay. And the last question is on Publishing. Obviously, a very strong result even ex the digital platform. Just wondering if you have put through any price increases for your subscription or are you planning to?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. I'll give this one to James, in terms of the questions about price increases. Of course, if there's forward price increases that are built into our model, we're not going to be making announcements around that today, but maybe if you could just give a bit of a sense about how you think about pricing, James.
James Chessell
executiveSure. Just in general terms, we have passed on price increases in the print side of publishing on a historical basis. And in fact, we announced a couple of increases in recent weeks for some of our print products. We've tended to be pretty conservative when it comes to our digital bundles and we'll continue to be so. But if and when we invest in potentially new content and new product, I think there's opportunities there to look at differentiated pricing.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Darren Leung with Macquarie.
Darren Leung
analystCongrats on a good result. I just have 2 quick ones, please. The first one, just on the digital platform payments. There's a bit of media commentary around whether they'll continue into other periods. Can you give any comments here? And also just qualitatively, have they grown into FY '23? I know previously, we sort of talked about whether the linked activity or sort of fixed base payments. That's the first question. And then the second one is just on the buyback. Obviously, you're very confident on the outlook. But on our numbers, it sort of takes your net debt to EBITDA on a wholly owned basis of about 1x. Given all the sort of commentary around a softer ad market next year, I'm keen to understand if you think this is the sort of us [ pose ] appropriate balance sheet measures that we should be looking at?
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. Okay. Look, I'll ask James to give some comments around the platform arrangements with Google and Facebook. So I think the 2 parts of the question was just around some of the commentary in the media as well as what we expect to see year-on-year in terms of revenue from those deals. But as a starter to that, I would say the relationships that we have with Facebook and Google have been very positive, and we continue to work with them very closely. But James, if you can just sort of give a bit of a sense on how you see that rolling through there.
James Chessell
executiveYes. We're fairly early on to multiyear deals, both for Google and Facebook, and we announced the duration of those deals last year when the overall platforms deals for Nine was disclosed to the market. I'd echo what Mike said. We're working really constructively and proactively with both platforms. And I think it's pretty clear there's a fair value exchange for all parties concerned. So if you take that into account and then also the political underpinnings, which is, I think, overall, it has helped the media ecosystem in Australia, not just for Nine, but for other parties. We'd be confident that these platforms can continue -- these platform deals can continue into the future. In terms of revenue, I think you'll see a fairly consistent revenue impact across Publishing in the outer years.
Michael Sneesby
executiveYes. In fact, we've said before that we do expect that there isn't a variable component in those deals. So we expect them to be flat through the contract duration. The second part of that question in relation to our leverage and what we think is appropriate. Look, I'm happy, Graeme, if you want to make some additional comments around that. But clearly, we've announced that buyback taking into account all aspects or uses of capital that sit ahead of us and including our view of the market at a various ranges of performance over the period. And the Board has announced that buyback, taking those considerations into account. So we feel comfortable with where we'll be in terms of our leverage as we head through '23.
Operator
operatorThere are no further questions at this time.
Michael Sneesby
executiveWell, thank you. That wraps up the results briefing. Thank you for your attendance, and we'll see you again at our half year results in February.
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