Nolato AB (publ) (NOLAB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 6, 2025

Nasdaq Stockholm SE Industrials Industrial Conglomerates earnings 24 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Hello, and welcome to today's presentation with Nolato. With us presenting today, we have the CEO, Christer Wahlquist and CFO, Per-Ola Holmstrom. [Operator Instructions] And with that said, please go ahead with your presentation.

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#2

Thank you, and welcome to the presentation of Nolato's First Quarter 2025. This is Christer Wahlquist speaking. If we summarize the quarter, we had similar sales as comparison quarter, but with a very strong increase of our margins amounting to 11% as a total, creating an EBITA on SEK 271 million. We saw growth within the Medical, but slightly lower sales for Engineered Solutions due to the automotive sector. If we look on the margins, we strengthened the margins in both business areas, but particularly strong performance for Medical Solutions. Still, we have a very strong financial position with net financial liabilities in relation to adjusted operating profit of 0.5x. Moving to Page 3 in the presentation deck. Looking at the 2 parts of our business: Medical Solutions, now corresponding to 57% of our total sales and Engineered Solutions, 43% of the overall sales of the group. Jumping into Medical Solutions. Starting with that, sales amounted to just below SEK 1.4 billion in the quarter. And you can also see the continuous growth of the business area over the last 20 years on the graph. Moving to Page 5 in the presentation deck. Splitting up the medical sales in different focused product areas. During this quarter, we saw growth within the drug delivery part of the business and other than that, minor changes around the different parts of the business. On Page 6, we summarize the Medical's first quarter we saw adjusted sales increase if we adjust for currency of 2%. And we saw stable volumes across all the different market areas. But of course, some growth within the drug delivery. Surgical has been stabilizing. And within the IVD, we saw some lower volumes during the quarter, but it's more volatility quarter-to-quarter than anything else. A strong margin improvement, full 1.9 percentage points increase, amounting to 12.2% for the quarter. We saw that coming mostly from our U.S. operation with the cost adjustments and intensive the total supply chain in giving improvements both for the customer and ourselves. The expansion in Hungary linked to the big order that we announced a year ago, is going according to plan and is progressing in a planned way. We have, during the quarter, also acquired a property in Poland that will enable us continued expansion in Europe. This is approximately 8,000 square meters of property. So the quarter ended up just below SEK 1.4 billion and operating profit of SEK 171 million, creating the margin of 12.2 percentage points. Jumping into Engineered Solutions. And here, you see some volatility, but over the last years, we have stabilized and are now focusing on finding new business and continue the growth of the business area. If we split up the sales within Engineered Solutions, during this quarter, we saw a good growth with materials growing at 12% in the quarter. We saw slower sales within Automotive that was expected, but we've seen the volumes now on a lower level, and we expect that to continue on that level for the coming period of time. If we then look on Page 9 and summarize the business area, we saw adjusted currency sales decrease of 3%. And as expected, automotive industry declined and stable volumes across the other sectors, except within Materials that we saw sharply increased volumes and growth at a strong 12%. The margin within the business area increased to 10.1 percentage points. It was, of course, favorable product mix, but also cost adjustments that we have made in the business. So sales amounted to SEK 1.058 billion in the quarter, operating profit at SEK 107 million.

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#3

Good afternoon, I'm Per-Ola Holmstrom,commenting group financial highlights on Page 10. Net sales amounted to SEK 2.453 billion, similar as same period last year. Operating profit in EBITA increased 14% to SEK 271 million by margin improvement in both business areas, but mainly within Medical. And the EBITA margin for the group improved by 1.3 percentage units to 11.0%. The effective tax rate was 21%, and we expect between 21% and 22% for the full year. Cash flow from operating activities was similar to last year, boosted by improvements in profit, but somewhat higher working capital requirements, having a negative effect. Increased activity and sales at the end of the quarter compared with the end of 2024, resulted in higher trade receivables. Net investments, as expected, came in higher at SEK 271 million compared to SEK 230 million last year. Large effects of CapEx in Hungary for production of devices for treatment of overweight and diabetes. In addition, an operating property in Poland was acquired for SEK 69 million for future Medical expansion. We expect SEK 850 million for the full year. Earnings per share increased to SEK 0.74 and return on capital employed improved to 12.7%, mainly by the margin improvement. Net financial liabilities in relation to EBITDA at a low level, 0.5x, enabling expansion and acquisitions. Turning to Page 11, focusing on current situation per business area. Starting with the Medical Solutions business area. The growth strategy is maintained. We focus on margin, cost adjustment, pricing strategy and efficiency. We base this on innovation and sustainability. Within the business, we have a very broad customer base with long-standing close customer relationship. Within the Engineered Solutions, we have advanced our market position. We have established a position in new product areas. We have a success in new markets that is very positive for our materials part of the business. We will now open up for questions.

Operator

operator
#4

[Operator Instructions] And first, we have Adrian Gilani from ABG.

Adrian Gilani Göransson

analyst
#5

A few questions from my end. Starting off in Medical, quite steep margin lift in Medical. I mean, was this to an extent, a quarter where things went your way? Or is this entire margin lift explained by structural price cost adjustments that would mean that this is the new base margin that you can increase from in coming quarters? Or is there a risk we might take a step down in coming quarters?

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#6

I don't see any specific things increasing the margin in this quarter. I think we can rely on the improvements we have made. We list some of those, and we have discussed them for some quarters now, and we are happy to see that these improvements are increasing the margins. So I don't see this quarter as a onetime effect. It should be doable going forward as well.

Adrian Gilani Göransson

analyst
#7

Okay. Sounds good. And also, I know you don't report this specifically, but can you talk a bit about how the margin is progressing in GW Plastics as well? Because you mentioned that surgery is sort of stabilizing from low levels. And does this mean you're finally starting to see meaningful progress in GW Plastics as well?

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#8

Yes. I can start with the margin improvement. And the situation in our U.S. operations has improved and the U.S. margin is not fully reaching the average for the business area, the 12.2%. It is less still, but improving. And then, of course, the rest is above that level, which it has been for some time. So that is pretty much the situation.

Adrian Gilani Göransson

analyst
#9

Okay. And yes, on the Materials business, it's grown fairly well for 2 quarters now. Can you talk a bit about the end markets and sort of if it's a rebound in the traditional telecom business that is driving that or if it's the new market areas where you're sort of increasing the Materials penetration?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#10

Yes. I would say it's a combination. We have seen some rebound of the telecom, of course, but we are growing in the new areas as well. So it's growth across all of the different segments.

Adrian Gilani Göransson

analyst
#11

Okay. Perfect. And a final one for me, the question we have to ask all of the companies. Can you just say a few words about your tariff exposure and to what extent do you expect to be able to sort of offset any direct cost increases from tariffs by increasing prices forward?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#12

Our expectation is that we can offset the tariffs and pass them across to the customers. I would say also that most of our production is located where we have our deliveries. So most of our sales is not affected by tariff directly. Then of course, it could be that the customer then sells these products in different tariffs area, which could affect the volumes, of course.

Adrian Gilani Göransson

analyst
#13

And the local aspect, does that also apply for the sourcing of materials as well?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#14

To the most extent, there are exceptions. So there are things that are sourced across different tariff areas, and that could be affected. But then, of course, we will pass that on to our customers.

Operator

operator
#15

Okay. We'll give the word to Carl Ragnerstam from Nordea. Please go ahead, you have the word.

Carl Ragnerstam

analyst
#16

It's Carl. Some questions from me as well here. In Engineered, I think it's, from my point of view, at least, quite impressive margin given the organic drop. You mentioned the cost out, you mentioned the positive mix. Just to clarify here, when you talk about positive mix, you're referring to EMC? Or is it something else we should acknowledge here regarding mix?

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#17

That is correct. We are referring to the growing part of materials or EMC, right.

Carl Ragnerstam

analyst
#18

Okay. That's very clear. And on the Automotive side, are you planning to reduce costs or transfer costs to other areas in order to sort of absorb the lower volumes? It seems that it might continue for a while. And secondly, on the Auto, obviously, some of your products might through one of your customers end up in the U.S. Have you seen a weakening Auto exposure during the latter part of the quarter? Or is it fairly same as you might expect for the coming 2 quarters here as you saw on average?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#19

We have seen stable volumes during the quarter. So it's not declining during the quarter, and we expect the volumes to stabilize on this little bit lower volumes for the coming quarters. On the cost side, we have foreseen this decrease in volumes and have taken measures already to reduce cost.

Carl Ragnerstam

analyst
#20

Perfect. And they are fully materialized in Q1 then? Or is it something else to come in Q2? -- cost savings, sorry.

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#21

No, it's materialized in the first quarter.

Carl Ragnerstam

analyst
#22

Very clear. And on your Polish expansion here, I think you took SEK 70 million in CapEx for it. I mean it's not massive. But historically, you've done these investments, right, because you have pretty good visibility in incoming volumes. Is it in this case that you're transferring some lower margin products? Or is it purely new capacity that you need for future growth? And also because last time you did the big expansion, it was post-2020. Of course, it was a pandemic, but then you sort of ended up with quite a big underutilization of some production, of course, unique circumstance, but how do you see it here?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#23

This expansion, it's not for transferring existing volumes. It's related to our European footprint, and we've seen that we -- in going forward, we see we need more capacity. And then we found this excellent facility that we could acquire. It's very close to an existing plant, and we see that as a future expansion area.

Carl Ragnerstam

analyst
#24

Okay. That is very clear. And the final one, if I may. You said IVD has been coming back quite nicely over the past few quarters here. Now you said it was a bit muted. You said mostly, I think, due to quarterly volatility. The word mostly, what else is it apart from quarterly volatility?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#25

You can take the word mostly out of my previous comment.

Carl Ragnerstam

analyst
#26

Okay. So it's quarterly volatility.

Operator

operator
#27

And I'll give the word to Karl Norén from SEB. We cannot hear you. In the meantime, we'll give the word to Mikael Laséen from Carnegie.

Mikael Laséen

analyst
#28

I want to go back to the margin improvement, really impressive. Can you say something about the margin improvement or if you had the margin improvement also in the European business for the Medical segment, first of all?

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#29

It is mainly relating to the U.S. operations and nothing significant to mention within the European sites.

Mikael Laséen

analyst
#30

Okay. Got it. And the European side continues on a relatively high stable level, I guess?

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#31

Yes. It's not decreasing -- no major improvement either.

Mikael Laséen

analyst
#32

Okay. And when it comes to this improvement that you saw now in Q1, was this in line with your internal expectations that you saw this?

Per-Ola Holmström

executive
#33

It's always hard to say when different things would appear in the P&L and especially with some of the things going on where we work together closely with our customers and when that is supposed to hit our P&L because that is -- yes, it's also something that has to be approved by the customers and agreed. So I think you could say that it came with a quite substantial effect in this quarter, but the long-term effects we have planned for and been working with for a long time. And hence, maybe not surprise, but still a large effect in this quarter.

Mikael Laséen

analyst
#34

Okay. And you have talked about these initiatives that you have implemented price changes and cost adjustments and improving the contract or cost-out initiatives. Where do you expect more potential from these different initiatives? And what line of sight do you have and visibility do you have for the coming quarters when it comes to these initiatives and margin improvement possibilities towards your new targets?

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#35

Yes. We are, I would say, on the timely adjusted plan that we lost some time early on during COVID in this improvement journey. And I think we have -- now we're making good progress in this, and we expect that we will continue to improve our U.S. margin gradually over the next coming quarters and maybe 1.5 years or something like that.

Mikael Laséen

analyst
#36

And the final one, can you sort of talk a bit more in general terms about the Medical operations in the U.S., how your different facilities are operating and the market situation for your different end-customers there or -- yes, and the markets in general? So we get a feel for how that part is developing.

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#37

Yes. I would say we have our different facilities spread around in different places in the U.S. And I would say they are in similar shape and the similar types of production, maybe some difference in the Wisconsin one that we have owned a longer time, where we have sort of done all these things already. So there are some changes in that. Other than that, I would say the market is, generally speaking, it's a positive market in U.S. as a total, and we see initiatives from customers on things and a good response from the market.

Operator

operator
#38

And that's a wrap here of the Q&A. We got a question here from -- another one from Mikael. Is that correct? Do you have another question or no?

Mikael Laséen

analyst
#39

No, I'm good.

Operator

operator
#40

Okay. Thank you. So that's a wrap of the Q&A session here. Thank you very much, Christer and Per-Ola for presenting today and everyone for tuning into this Nolato Q1 presentation. Thank you very much.

Christer Wahlquist

executive
#41

Thank you very much, and have a great afternoon. Bye.

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